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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 6, 2012 - 08:39pm PT
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need some suggestions from you all
YOSAR?
Yosemite Climbing?
Nov 16, 2011 - 09:57am PT
Norton,
I would feel very badly taking your money, so I must decline your offer. Tell you what, if Obama wins, I will donate $5k to the climbing non-profit of your choice.
Fattrad
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jenny Crag?
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Roughster
Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
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CRAGS! We have successfully opened Auburn and have ongoing continuing costs. In addition, we are a truly local to Sac/Bay climbers group that will make a difference right here where you climb!
http://norcalcrags.org/
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Would have to be something that smacks of Marxism, how about putting it into The Pit :)
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Josh Higgins
Trad climber
San Diego
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Allied Climbers of San Diego! The AF has told us we're one of the more effective local non-profits in the country. www.alliedclimbers.org
Josh
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Josh Higgins
Trad climber
San Diego
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I just saw that last post. He got banned? Right when he was finally going to do some good? DOH!
Josh
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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isn't fatty only a 16-percenter? who would be taking money from whom?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2012 - 09:21pm PT
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um,
Fatty got himself banned, TWICE by Chris Mac
his getting himself banned should NOT get him out of his pledge to donate $5000
he said it's my choice which non profit gets his money
I am leaning to YOSAR, that ok with you guys?
edit: Locker, relax, the fat lady hasn't sung yet
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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YOSAR. Those guys are dope. They can use some more beer.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Norton, whom do you give the $5000 to if Romney wins? Does Fattrad get to choose that?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2012 - 09:37pm PT
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Locker, Obama will comfortably kick Mitten's ass with over 300 Electoral votes
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ncrockclimber
climber
The Desert Oven
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Ron, that is BS.
Fatty acted like a huge dick! He knew where Cmac drew the line and stepped over it. He even got a second chance and pulled the same BS. The fact that he got the boot for acting like a dick has nothing to do with him paying off on a bet that he made.
If he welches on the bet it will say a lot about his lack of character. I for one fully expect him to welch, but will be happy to be proved wrong.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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let $5,000 by the readmission fee to the Taco. to the climbing non-profit of Norton's choice, in Fatty's own words.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Ron, Jeff is a friend of mine. I don't think he feels a victim of the behind the scenes shenanigans you suggest. (You can ask him on fb, he's in the house there right now. Im sure) He was banned for what he said in front of us all. He's dogmatic about what he believes and willing to get shut down for it. I don't agree with any of it,but gotta hand it to him for his tenacity.
But back to the point. I think Yosar is a good place to put his money, and I'm sure he agrees. But let's keep the suggestions coming in. Not like he's likely to burp up a check tomorrow,or anything. We have time to pick the right one.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2012 - 10:44pm PT
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let $5,000 by the readmission fee to the Taco. to the climbing non-profit of Norton's choice, in Fatty's own words.
the votes are in!
Fatty will donate $5000 to THIS non profit climbing effort:
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adatesman
climber
philadelphia, pa
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Not that I get a vote, but $5k of Fatty's money to a worthwhile cause to let him back in is ok by me. Provided he's on a short leash.... The endless politard threads and pics of his jacket were tiresome. Aside from that, as a mostly lurker didn't mind him one bit. That said, did he have non-politard posts? :-/
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Maybe it could go to the weed fund for dope SAR folks in Colorado and Washington, now that's kosher in those places.
Whataya say Jeff? surley you're reading this.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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50% YOSAR, 50% YCA. If paid, he gets a conditional readmittance to the SuperTopo nuthouse as a "reward".
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MisterE
Social climber
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he is a good guy though
In person,
not on-line.
Big difference.
Bring him back to Facelift,
but not to Supertopo.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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yes - bring fatty back!!
i will donate 100 bucks to the ASCA if ya bring our friend fatty back
give it to the ASCA - it is the most important of all
That's the spirit!
We should take advantage of this situation to do a non-partisan act of good, that we can all feel good about.
Perhaps we could set a goal of MATCHING Fat's "contribution", in solidarity.
I will also match 100 bucks.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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A pledge is a pledge.
you don't make the rules rong.
YOSAR
Edit: fatty is a good guy at heart. He will live up to the pledge.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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I think if he's banned that all bets should be off.
Otherwise I'd say give it to Kenny Yeager.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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A promise is a promise. I don't recall he had attached any strings such as "I call it off if I'm banned again"
C'mon Jeff, if you're reading this.
This time make a donation to something that will actually benefit the 99% of climbers who are living on a worker's wage....or less...as well as the other 1%; instead of to the political party that got hosed in spite of over $1Billion spent.
[url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/campaign-finance/"]http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/campaign-finance[/url]
And this doesn't count the unknown $$ spent by hidden (Citizens United) big spenders.
(said with the greatest respect for the support you've already given the climbing community)
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Let's leave readmission out of this and stay on topic, he dug his own grave.
50/50
Yosar/YCA sounds good
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ncrockclimber
climber
The Desert Oven
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Any word? Is he welching of paying?
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Give it to me! Need money for climbing- guys from "CASTING! ROCK CLIMBERS WANTED" thread didn't call me for some reason!!...I will make a great TR and hold a "Republicans" banner on a Sierra/Cordillera Blanca peak of his choice :)
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
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lol, Silver gets points, but is their a non-profit status in that? Both seem pretty expensive, unless we're talking 7-11 in JT. lol
ASCA is always a favorite of mine.
Access Fund works for all climber's benefit.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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We should spend it on hookers and blow for next years facelift
LOL 5000$ for how many people?!?! They won't even get a hand job from a Polk street transvestite for that much!
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briham89
Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
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^lol
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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We're short about $200-$300 covering the cost of retaining wall materials for the Suicide stairs and there's the static line and snatch block that someone stole overnight.
Just the snatch block is about $250 from McMaster.
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the kid
Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
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Send it to the access fund.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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norton, he has already donated it but i doubt you would approve.....
it went to
Ryans quest for all the 14er's in Colorado.....
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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I'm reluctant to spend Jeff's money for him, or make your choice for you, Norton, but I'd vote for either ASCA or Access Fund, because they benefit almost all of us, and have no other source of funds except the climbing community.
John
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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El PhatTrad's post to nature's FaceBook note: "It was close, just as I thought, not surprised. The 5k is ready, as soon as Norton contacts me with his name and addy, so I can give him credit with the charity."
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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since you all had him banned ...
File this under unclear on the concept.
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John M
climber
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People really believe that he will pay? Count me skeptical.
He has said more then once that what happens on the internet isn't real. He also says he enjoys making and watching people squirm.
I have no respect for the dude.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2012 - 08:09pm PT
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Tell you what, if Obama wins, I will donate $5k to the climbing non-profit of your choice.
Fattrad
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Pennsylenvy
Gym climber
A dingy corner in your refrigerator
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Sorry bluering.....
" bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Nov 6, 2012 - 11:36pm PT
I think if he's banned that all bets should be off.
Otherwise I'd say give it to Kenny Yeager. "
You sound like a back peddling typical money mongering right winger. Anything that will keep $$$ in your pocket.......
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zeta
Trad climber
Portland, OR
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Good suggestions so far, but what about a smaller search & rescue groups (than YOSAR) or a non-profit that helps low income/students climbers (like this Urban Peaks)
http://urbanpeaks.org/news
I don't know anything about this particular non profit but it seems like a smaller less known non-profit is the one that could actually benefit the most....
and look at all this!
http://www.climbing.com/?archive=organization-links
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Hey Norton,
Contact Fatty and get him your address. He's ready to pay up immediately.
I'm not surprised. A deal is a deal and unlike some of these other fools he wouldn't change the rules based on some unrelated events.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 7, 2012 - 09:33pm PT
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Fatty knows how to log here in a minute by creating a new avatar
He knows how to PM me
He will never honor his pledge, he will never, ever pay the $5000
He had no intention of doing so when he said that he would.
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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I'd like to see the money dispersed a little wider than just YNP.
My vote is for Access Fund.
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Gary
Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
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SEKI SAR recovered a friend of mine. Could they get a bit?
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Hey Norton.... please contact him before you say such things. I've communicated with him personally.
if he doesn't then certainly let us all know. And if he does do the same.
give him a chance, right?
Jeff Elfont wrote:
The 5k is ready, as soon as Norton contacts me with his name and addy, so I can give him credit with the charity.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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I thought that WAS his picture on his avatar!
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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ok never mind....
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Roger Brown
climber
Oceano, California
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The ASCA. They work everywhere. Everyone wins.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Why not help out with an AAC grant?
Make someone's dream come true.
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Prod
Trad climber
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Why did Fatty get banned?
Prod.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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I think it is unreasonable to state that Fats will not pay, and there is no reason to insult him.
Winners of things should be gracious.
Really, no one else is willing to partially match?
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10b4me
Boulder climber
member since 2002
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Is YOSAR part of the NPS? can you donate to YOSAR?
it would be cool if you could, but without knowing the answer,
I vote for donating to ASCA, and the YCA.
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ncrockclimber
climber
The Desert Oven
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Fatty, of his own accord, stated that he would give $5K to the charity of Norton's choice if Obama won. No conditions were put on this by Fatty or Norton. To me, it is very simple. Norton needs to say, on this thread, what charity he chooses. Fatty needs to post up and show that he has donated the money. If he doesn't, he is both a welch and a liar. He does not need Norton's personal information. He just needs to STFU and pay his debt. End of story.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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How about 1/3@ Yosar, YCA, ASCA?
Hey who planted that newish ASCA bolt on Elvis Hammer? I was glad to see it!
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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he's not back. that's not fatty.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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It's either Lober or Acer....
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Don't be phooled by phake phatties!
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dirtbag
climber
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The fatter the trad, the leaner the wiener.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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how about you sell your articles for the CC times for charity...oh...right...
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