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Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 22, 2006 - 12:39am PT
"My friend say, he can't shout, don't hear you."
Melissa

Gym climber
berkeley, ca
May 22, 2006 - 12:41am PT
What does that mean anyway?
Ouch!

climber
May 22, 2006 - 12:42am PT
TR will delete this thread when she wakes up.
Loom

climber
167 stinking feet above sea level : (
May 22, 2006 - 12:51am PT
what happened to #3: sumthin like...just cuz u know everything doesnt mean u know something...



(edit) Oh, I get it, you're mad because no one listened to you here
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
May 22, 2006 - 01:53am PT
"he can't shout, don't hear you" oddly when I Google it, I come up with a Firesign Theatre hit... only... Jaybro? the lyric?
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 22, 2006 - 02:23am PT
Ed, you of all people, I thought would have recognized that one.
It's from the 'all hail (Groucho) Marx & (John) Lennon', Album (How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all-oops), flip side of Nick Danger. (Isn't it?)

I’ve always taken it as an, about, quadruple entendre, about miscommunication similar to, the sort to which (I thought) TR refered.

Like speaking too loud to a blind person, or someone speaking another language, in hopes that increased volume will somehow help them understand what you mean.


The lesson I've taken from it is a, show don't explain, kind of deal.
lightweight_yank

Trad climber
Sparx
May 22, 2006 - 02:56am PT
"Don't feed the trolls." - Chris MacNamara

TR - I know this is a dead issue, but can't you learn to spell your name? Jeez, it's like the Disney version or something, did you misspell it just to copyright it? Are you hooked on phonics or something?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
May 22, 2006 - 03:39am PT
Jay,
a quick listen to the first side of THE FIRESIGN THEATRE PRESENTS HOW CAN YOU BE IN TWO PLACES AT ONCE WHEN YOU'RE NOT ANYWHERE AT ALL ? and I didn't come up with the phrase... but I'll try to find it.

sure it not on the second side?
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 22, 2006 - 03:51am PT
Ed, actually I've just been looking, now I'm not sure where it's from. I don't haqve the tapes or the song book up here at my fortress of solitude/aka the armbar ranch.

Now I think It's from the one that starts with the Turkish lesson (Don't Crush that Dwarf hand me the pliers (?)) I think it's from the part about being incarcerated in a foreign land; " I started out writing in my own blood but, as this would not make an acceptable carbon, I aguired an electric typewriter."

Hopefully I'll uncover a clip.

IF only Clean Dan was here to help us. -we'd be asleep by now!
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 22, 2006 - 04:37am PT
no luck here, either. time to rest my own small brain, but here's a classic lullaby of sorts

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~thinker/sounds/hesnofun.aiff
pud

climber
Sportbikeville
May 22, 2006 - 01:05pm PT
you either get it or you don't.

"In the fight between you and the world, back the world."
--Frank Zappa
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
May 22, 2006 - 01:12pm PT
LOL, among men, a cute young girl can get away with murder, but an old guy can't get away with shyte, unless he is very good or very lucky.

Has it ever been any different?
scuffy b

climber
Chalet Neva-Care
May 22, 2006 - 01:13pm PT
I'm pretty sure it's not on the Marx/Lennon record.
I only know it from the climb name, over by Little Wing.
I assumed the climbers came up with it on their own.
Will be pleased to be proved wrong.
We can't talk here.
Professor Fate

Big Wall climber
Vulgaria
May 22, 2006 - 01:50pm PT
2. stop saying things. just walk the talk and shut up.


Isn't there some type of irony in actually posting that? Personally, I like talking AND walking. Often simulatneously. I often enjoy spray and spew, both giving and taking. Is that so wrong?
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
May 22, 2006 - 01:51pm PT
Mick, me man't malk mere.
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 22, 2006 - 03:32pm PT
Scuff/Gary- "You're right, we can't talk here."

Still looking./
Robb

Social climber
Flathead Valley, Montana
May 22, 2006 - 03:38pm PT
Try "Everything You Know Is Wrong"
I believe that might be the one.

SEEK-OUT, SPEAK-OUT!
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 22, 2006 - 03:40pm PT

From
http://www.firezine.net/faq/index2.html
see the last one
"2.7) Common FT Phrases

Here's a few common ones. See also the Lexicon!

Ah, Canadian!
And there's hamburger all over the highway in Mystic, Connecticut.
Back to the Shadows, Again!
Bear Whiz Beer: It's in the water! That's why it's yellow!
"But... this is a bag of SH#T!"/ "But it's really GREAT sh#t,
Mrs. Presky!"
Dear Friends!
Dr. Memory!
Decision-Making Factor, Absent from Brain!
Eat flaming death, fascist media pigs !
Everything you know is wrong!
Forward into the Past!
Happy Motoring on the Freeway, which is already in Progress!
Hey! Corn! Now we can make whiskey/tortillas!
He says he can shout; don't hear you!"


and much more

still unclear of the original disk and no sound clip, yet.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
May 23, 2006 - 12:51am PT
Jaybro, you can't knock success, but you still put me through too many changes...

Waiting for the Electrician or Someone Like Him

"Going up!"

-russian question-

"Oh excuse me but my friend would like to know how much you enjoy our city so far"

"Actually I haven't been here too long."

-translated to french-

-russian response-

"Oh, uh, he want to know, yes or no?"

"Well tell him yes, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL CITY"

-russian-

"He says 'He can shout; don't hear you!'
Have you seen the palace?"

"Not yet, but I certainly intend..."

"Oh you must! You must! It wont be here much longer, you know they are cleaning it."

-russian question-

"Are you alone?"

"Yes"

"No, we are here with you"

"Oh, I see what you mean, ah, no"

"Yes, how many are we?"

"Here? ehh, three"

"You don't want to count the elevator boy?"

"Yeah"

"Three or four?"

"Ffffour"

"But of course there is your family"

"But, but there not traveling with me"

"Where?"

"Where I'm going"

"But you're here! Ahhh, how many?"

"Four, with, with the elevator boy"

"Ahhh, he is in your family"

"No, here"

"And here we are..."

and the clip
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 23, 2006 - 01:19am PT
You're the damn man, Ed! I was completly off base on the context.

When I go to restauraunts with either, or both of my brothers' family and the Host asks "how many?"

We ALWAYS get an 'elevator boy' joke in there.

The russian is just what is translated, btw. I would guess the french is dead on, as well.




Please, excuse the drift, T*R.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
May 23, 2006 - 01:28am PT
you got the Turkish lesson right.. it is the begining of the side... I was impatient last night and didn't listen to it through...

They are so good.... actually still current and apropos criticism. I guess we never really learn.
yo

climber
I'm so over it
May 23, 2006 - 01:33am PT
What are you two talking about???!!!


I got it all wrong.
I wound up believing in words the way a scientist
Believes in carbon, after death.
--Larry Levis
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 23, 2006 - 01:34am PT
So much of their stuff is so far ahead of the curve, even when it sounds, ostensibly, nostalgic.

"Double click on memory, doctor." from what? 1975?

I really thought "Boom dot Bust," right before the silicon crash was prophetic to the point of presceince (sp?).
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
May 23, 2006 - 01:36am PT
what thread drift,
no matter where you go, there we are...
WBraun

climber
May 23, 2006 - 01:41am PT
Are we really?
The user formerly known as stzzo

Trad climber
SF bay area
May 23, 2006 - 01:43am PT
TR, you must be disenchanted...

But perhaps also wisened. My experience has been that most people don't hear "talk." Especially when it challenges their belief system and they're not ready to hear it. And people certainly don't listen if you don't also walk the talk...
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 23, 2006 - 01:43am PT
"but who am us, anyway?" Roy?

Yo, and/or anyone else patient enough to read this without fore-knowledge -a link, to scratch the surface on this weird sh#t.
http://www.firesigntheatre.com//

Again it would be, SO, cool to have clean Dan here, as part of this
ramble. -he was on top of this idiom.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
May 23, 2006 - 01:52am PT
but who am us jay?
for the most part, the folks with brown paper bags over our heads, who see the inside of the bag.


sometimes we get funny too...
other times we are funny.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
May 23, 2006 - 01:57am PT
yo

we are talking about The Firesign Theatre, something out of our youth which has survived to this very day in an intact form...
...they have been nattering on and on since the mid 70's, now going on 30 years.

The line in question above happens to have been appropriated as a name for a climb:

He Can't Shout, Don't Hear You 5.7 Little Wing Area FA 1974 Bob Ashworth Jeff Stubbs

They are a subversive element, clowns whose comedic style sometimes masks the cutting criticism of our society.

While many references may be dated, they are dead on...
...the noise you hear at the begining of this clip is a "rotary phone" being dialed... and then you get the punch line...

Get them and listen... perhaps the "radio show" idiom is too slow for you i/o saturated youngin's, I think it would be worth a listen.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
May 23, 2006 - 01:59am PT
hey jay, that link took me to a web host domain thingy wacker...
i got a clean dan ramble on my voice mail in box still.
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 23, 2006 - 02:02am PT
(this was to tar two posts up, I'm a slow typer/thinker)
Sounds like another 'cave,' analogy rumbling.

Grant us the power to enjoy part of the time we are funny
and live through the time we are not funny
and let others enjoy the time we are funny but don't know it
and give us the sense
to knott have to know which is which.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
May 23, 2006 - 02:09am PT
alright, i was driftin' into the cave analogy:
Trite?
You betcha.

so there's this cave i'm in.
then there's this fire behind me.
never mind turnin' to look into the fire.
i can't tell the shadows from the walls.
so i'm tryin' super hard just to see if there's a wall behind the shadows.

meanwhile, if i'm lucky, ed will tune in fireside theater for some good, wholesome distraction.
(louder please ed)
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 23, 2006 - 02:17am PT
Fixed above

http://www.firesigntheatre.com/

was gonna add another link but Ed beat me to it.

SBC/Plumas/Dsl is slow tonight
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 23, 2006 - 02:20am PT
should we look 'for' a specific thing beyond the shadows, or is that preconcieved expectations/hiesenberg -oid.

Where is Werner when you need him?
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
May 23, 2006 - 02:24am PT
he can't hear us right now.
too much bable.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
May 23, 2006 - 02:26am PT
or playdough?
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 23, 2006 - 02:29am PT
"This is it, this the trip, this is the part I really like," (also) Jim Morrison.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
May 23, 2006 - 02:30am PT
oh, look "for".
jeepers, i thought we were encouraged to stop looking at what the traces of illumination were casting on the walls and turn around to behold the source.

my gist was, and here i am tryin' to peel a shadow off the wall, all desperate and scientific and whatnot, to get behind that.

oh- some rolling stone ditty kieth richard's sings,
something like:

-just sittin' here in the rain with my babee, tryin to put this jigsaw puzzle together...
(that works for me)
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
May 23, 2006 - 02:32am PT
Well, the clock says it's time to close now
I guess I'd better go now
I'd really like to stay here all night
The cars crawl past all stuffed with eyes
Street lights share their hollow glow
Your brain seems bruised with numb surprise
Still one place to go
Still one place to go

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
May 23, 2006 - 02:35am PT

Me, I'm just waiting so patiently
With my woman on the floor
We're just trying to do this jig-saw puzzle
Before it rains anymore
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
May 23, 2006 - 02:35am PT
'nighty nite all!
-thanks ed, now i don't have miles to go before i sleep.
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 23, 2006 - 02:40am PT
maybe a snack in the soul kitchen first?
scuffy b

climber
Chalet Neva-Care
May 23, 2006 - 10:29am PT
Jaybro, remember that "the family that's glued together
is never rude together"
Ever eat at Thai Food Mary's?
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
May 23, 2006 - 10:36am PT
wait, i think i gotta few good miles left in me.
with a little help from my friends.
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 23, 2006 - 10:44am PT
with the toilet raised bait fish?
scuffy b

climber
Chalet Neva-Care
May 23, 2006 - 10:49am PT
Don't eat with your hands...use your entrenching tool!!
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
May 23, 2006 - 11:08am PT
Isn't that bridge done yet?
scuffy b

climber
Chalet Neva-Care
May 24, 2006 - 07:29pm PT
No! And it won't be...ugh...until free hands on both sides
of the big water can push the same button at the same time!!
(I may have screwed that one up, obviously)
But here are some good names, courtesy of the Big Neck Network:
Dink Shrinkwrap
Rink Shrimpclaw
Pinky Mineshaft
Mickey Pineshift
What a crew!!
dirtineye

Trad climber
the south
May 24, 2006 - 08:12pm PT
HAHAHA Fudd's first law:

What goes in, must come out.
mark miller

Social climber
Reno
May 24, 2006 - 09:36pm PT
"woke up this morning and I got myself a beer, The futures uncertain and......"Jim had a way with words.
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