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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jul 23, 2012 - 11:44pm PT
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Well how about a horse? Can I bring my horse?
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Jul 24, 2012 - 12:10am PT
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A horse is just a BIG dog....except he won't get the farging ball!
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jul 24, 2012 - 06:55am PT
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Most dog people are slaves.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Jul 24, 2012 - 09:27am PT
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Troll! Anyone else notice no follow up posts from the OP?
That said, just leave your dogs at home; I do...
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jul 24, 2012 - 09:59am PT
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RODGER, OF COURSE IT IS A TROLL!! But this one is still of interest to many.
Someone should post up Dylan's "If Dog's Run Free".
Sorry some of you have had bad experiences or experienced bad dogs at the crags. I chalk that up to Owner Error. CragDogs have been a part of my climbing experience for over 40 years. It is sad, now that I am making my 13th major comeback, that some of you would choose to not climb with me because my dog travels with me. Too bad really because if you met her you would change or at least modify your stance. You have to know your dog and when & where it is appropriate.
How many affidavits from prominent American climbers would it take to convince you -"NO DOGS at the CRAG"- folks of Goldie's bone-ifieds? Would an even dozen do or should I break out the long form? Not all dogs are bad at the crags. And not all humans are good there either. Like I said before it depends on the dog the crag and the situation. SOMETIMES IT IS A PERFECT MATCH.
I love cragdogs.
^^^ Honestly, look at Goldie's face and tell me if that isn't an expression of contentment. ^^^
And you want me to have her stay at home and wait for a leashed walk around the block later?
Is it OK for me to take my dog to work with me?
She has since she was a puppy.
I say that if you really want to feel happy, safe and secure at the crags then leave your gun at home and take your dog. I know I'd feel safer if you did.
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Hard Rock
Trad climber
Montana
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Jul 24, 2012 - 10:17am PT
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I've said it before.
Robbin's First Ascent Principle: I get to decide. You do any of my routes you have to have a dog along.
My dogs carry the ropes, gear, water, bolts.
They help wear in the approach trail - in fact they keep me on it early on.
They find the people who follow the trail, get lost and call for help (but I get the cookies they send as a reward).
They let me know when a Griz are walking across my timber plots.
Why would I leave them at home?
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Jul 24, 2012 - 10:29am PT
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oh, stop it.
i want to know who miho wang is. she looks for all the world like the maitre d' at the golden dragon off columbus avenue.
is her dog for real? the dog is as cute as she is. two months ago she did her first 5.10. it was reachy. is she short?
anderson is always looking for a love interest. i recommend asians over bohemians. a friend of mine, a refugee from montana, on the rebound from a chinese, married a korean. "asian women age well," he observed. he's a wise fellow who actually gets paid to write things.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jul 24, 2012 - 10:55am PT
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The distractive attractive hot chicks love the Goldie.
Guess I'll never get to climb with the Locker,
I am Hurt Locker.
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Kenygl
Trad climber
Salt Lake City
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Jul 24, 2012 - 11:06am PT
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We have local laws that don't allow dogs(watershed)in the two major canyons but do allow them in other areas. The assumption is that people will not sh!t or piss in the woods, on the trail, at the crag. Dead wrong. It's multiply use folks. Which means you are welcome, your horse is welcome, your dog is welcome, your sniveling child is welcome(or at least tolerated) your whining girl friend is well annoying and pisses to close to the trail, your gym Ethics(?) are welcome, and this land was made for you and me, break into song. Thank you woody.
Train your dog, train your child, train yourself to live in a social environment. Be tolerant, be kind, be open minded. You'll feel better if you do that and hey you might end up liking dogs and possibly kids and annoying chicks. Or you won't, I don't lose sleep over it. If I want to take my dog, I will, if he acts up I'll kick his ass, can't do that with your kid or girl friend. We live in an unbalanced world.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Jul 24, 2012 - 11:55am PT
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Kenneygl..... +1
Philo.... I have changed my opinion of you. No matter what politics one supports, if you love dogs, you love all people.
And LOCKER im disapointed in your opinion, dont you crap all over the place? and smell crotches too?
This guy was my climbing partner for 14 years, he was good on snow, rock and marsh. He would stay with packs and keep varmits away. He would come on over to see what your eating and look for a good scarf... like most climbers I know.
But I do see 85% of dog owners as boneheads.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jul 24, 2012 - 11:55am PT
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WOOF!
Handsome dog Guyman.
If, as some have surmised, a dog's personality and behavior is a reflection of their owner and how they were raised then meeting Goldie would have you believe that I am a real sweet and sensitive person.
Now rub my belly :-)
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jul 24, 2012 - 11:59am PT
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"Troll! Anyone else notice no follow up posts from the OP?"
Since when has that ever stopped a thread from exploding?
Leave your dog at home. Thank you.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Jul 24, 2012 - 03:37pm PT
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Do dog owners worry about their dogs at crags? Are there locations you wouldn't take them due to snakes, rock fall, other hazards, etc? We've heard of dogs being crushed to death by falling objects (most recently a climber in the RRG, no?). Do they distract you? Personally, I'd worry constantly about my dog (but I am also a professional worrier).
Genuinely curious.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Jul 24, 2012 - 03:47pm PT
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so this transexual troll thread was donini's st b-day present?
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Jul 24, 2012 - 04:01pm PT
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i was referring to the middle-aged-white-guy-pretending-to-be-an-asian-woman in the op.
nttawwt.
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jahil
Social climber
London, Paris, WV & CA
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Jul 24, 2012 - 04:09pm PT
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Crimpie
Our dog Killah (see below) no longer goes on climbing trips as he is getting a bit long in the tooth. People who think dog owners are delusional are quite correct, most climbing locations are hazardous to the health of your dog. I constantly worry that his pads may be drying out, that he is not eating properly, or getting enough to eat, that he will get eaten by coyotes or bears.
All he wants to do is sleep on the crash pads, which seems to annoy every one else in Bishop. Best leave him home to sleep on my bed.
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Jul 24, 2012 - 04:09pm PT
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Hehe... a middleaged white guy it was....
Not:
"Miho can be written using different kanji characters and can mean:
美穂, "beauty, ear of grain"
美保, "beauty, care"
未歩, "future (part of the word 未来), step"
美帆, "beauty, sail"
The name can also be written in hiragana or katakana."
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Jul 24, 2012 - 05:52pm PT
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I love these threads.
Slack is a crag dog. Has been his whole life.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jul 24, 2012 - 06:07pm PT
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Seems like for every dog that is a good climbing dog that there are a bunch that bark at everyone who goes by and get in dogfights with every dog that goes by. Also seems like everyone thinks their dog is perfect. I am totally fine with well mannered dogs that are nice but I do not like it when your dog gets in my face and yells at me for no reason other than I am walking on a trail. I do not yell at you or your dog and do not expect you guys to yell at me. Seems fair.
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maldaly
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Jul 24, 2012 - 06:14pm PT
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I'm afraid I'm with Brokedownclimber here. I got my dog, Zacho, at a crag. She was a stray that a friend found in the wood outside of Driggs. We fell in love. I took Zacho to the crags for a while and she mostly seemed to enjoy it. After a while I realized that I was making the assumption that everyone at the crag liked dogs as much as I did and that I was imposing my will on them.
What right did I have to do that?
None.
From then on Zacho stayed home.
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