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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 19, 2012 - 08:23pm PT
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My wife brought it home the other day. Not bad. It would be nice to see them make it. All in all the content is good, and the pictures are good. It holds some promise from the tired and horribly worn out Rock & Ice and Climbing magazines.
They appear to be selling a minor amount of ad space, but we will see how it goes.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jun 19, 2012 - 08:29pm PT
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What Universe?
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Grippa
Trad climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Jun 19, 2012 - 08:31pm PT
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what's california?
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Jun 19, 2012 - 08:34pm PT
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The Earth is flat
California is Earth
Californians are flat.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 19, 2012 - 08:34pm PT
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What's California? A big place that's gonna crack off from an earthquake and sink into the ocean.
Until then, it's got some decent climbing.
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briham89
Big Wall climber
los gatos. ca
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Jun 19, 2012 - 08:41pm PT
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I saw the first edition and it was very cool. I agree that it was a breath of fresh air from the standard mag. It was cool how even some of the advertisers got into the Cali theme. I'm looking forward to the next one and hope it hangs around for awhile.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Jun 19, 2012 - 09:01pm PT
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Jealousy and hate of California and Californians will get you nowhere.
C'mon just because we live in "The Land of Milk and Honey" on this side of the Atlantic, (and not taking anything away from the Holy Land), doesn't mean you have to be haters.
The only state within all 50 states to have the greatest diversity in geomorphic provinces, and outlandish superlatives galore. You know, tallest Mtn. in the lower 48, lowest elevation in the Western Hemisphere, biggest trees in the world, tallest trees in the world, oldest trees in the world, and list goes on and on ...
Where else can you surf, BC ski, climb, SCUBA dive, fly a paraglider etc. all in one day?
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Jun 19, 2012 - 09:30pm PT
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Sure, I seen the thing. But I thought it was actually a 'Zine ... more commonly known as Supertypo.
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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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Jun 19, 2012 - 09:37pm PT
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Diggin it!
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Salamanizer
Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
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Jun 19, 2012 - 09:47pm PT
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Yeah, I tried to sign up for a subscription to support their cause but never received any word back so I gave up.
Haven't seen the mag yet. Where would one get a copy if they so chose???
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 19, 2012 - 10:06pm PT
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Not sure. Mine came from Nomad Ventures.
Starting a magazine is a big undertaking. Not too mention the fact that this mag is pretty narrow in scope, for now.
It's easy to put out a couple of these, but to carry it on long term is a whole other story.
I wish them the best.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 19, 2012 - 10:11pm PT
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"If it is not as good as penthouse, I am not interested."
A refreshing and reasonable sentiment.
On the other hand I would be very concerned if you were running loose with your kickstand in your hand just because you got the latest edition of a climbing magazine...
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Jun 19, 2012 - 10:32pm PT
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Seen some old California climbers.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jun 19, 2012 - 10:49pm PT
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Do they still climb in Caforniya?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jun 20, 2012 - 12:37am PT
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california is a myth
any stories you've heard of climbing in california are the delusional rants of mentally unstable confabulators, I can tell you from bitter experience that there is nothing but choss piles
best not to waste your time going to California, voyage elsewhere for real climbing
ignore the fictional stories, they are all lies and the photos are "shopped" composites from other, much better places...
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Tfish
Trad climber
La Crescenta, CA
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Jun 20, 2012 - 12:42am PT
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California is the greatest country in the world.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jun 20, 2012 - 01:03am PT
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Everyone knows the real climbing Mecca is Arkansas.
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Sebastopol
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Jun 20, 2012 - 01:09am PT
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Deano did a terrific job with #1 and is on track for future issues. Yes, I might be a bit biased. ;-) Get your subscription. The $15./yr price barely covers shipping.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Jun 20, 2012 - 02:01am PT
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It's 395mb - better have a fast internet connection....
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jun 20, 2012 - 02:43am PT
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Lycra must be on the verge of a comeback...
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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Jun 20, 2012 - 09:55am PT
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The magazine seems like a good idea; I certainly endorse one thing about it at present--the editor.
I love California like Donini loves Colorado, q.e.d. Keep your copy under the bed, Big Jim?
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all in jim
climber
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Jun 20, 2012 - 10:30am PT
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California Climber has the highest quality printing and paper of any of the climbing magazines and it's free! It's pretty cool to pick it up, recognize the quality and then realize "Wow, this is free?"
Fingers crossed for a long run for this one.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Jun 20, 2012 - 10:44am PT
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There's a copy in my garage right now. Nice pics, looks good.
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Killer K
Boulder climber
Sacramento, CA
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Jun 20, 2012 - 12:43pm PT
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Big props for Deano! Keep it up! See ya'll in columbia the most badass non-granite bouldering north of bishop. Send the $15 bucks in for support! Local buisness for the blue collar man is unheard of these days!
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 20, 2012 - 03:18pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^^^
Dragon lady.... (Great movie)
I'll be sending my $15 of support.
I'd love to see this one take off!
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Jun 25, 2012 - 10:15am PT
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bump for california climber, which i picked up free yesterday at A16--last copy in the store!
the magazine is based in sonora, a nice, strategic location in the middle of the state. i was happy to see a feature on chipmunk flat, where i camped once and wondered about the climbing.
it'd be nice to get the principals to do a little posting on this thread--talk about goals, suggestions, and what inspired them to get into this. a magazine is a tricky career path, but if it finds a sweet spot it can be wonderful.
hey, names make news. good luck to:
dean fleming, publisher & editor in chief
alton richardson, art director
nicholas miley, departments editor
jerry dodrill and jim thornburg, senior contributing photographers
fitz cahall and james lucas, senior contributing editors
and first edition contributors: jim thornburg, jerry dodrill, anthony lapomardo, bill serniuk, nicholas miley, john vallejo, james lucas and fitz cahall.
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Jun 25, 2012 - 10:20am PT
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My question (as a Californian) is: when did we start calling California "Cali?" Can't abide.
But...I'm looking forward to my first issue of California Climber! Looks promising!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 25, 2012 - 10:21am PT
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What is the point of reading a magazine when there is no naked girls in it?
What is the point of reading a magazine with naked girls in it?
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sethsquatch76
Trad climber
Joshua tree ca
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Jun 25, 2012 - 10:30am PT
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These guys have done a great Job with this magazine!!!!
Not to mention the business concept behind this project....... Not sure if it sustainable, but I damn well hope so! I believe this is a first for the climbing world.......
Cliffhanger Guides in in full support. I am currently in contact with Dean about purchasing ad space........ Get ready to see some ads that R&I or Climbing would never print..........
Seth Zaharias
www.cliffhangerguides.com
P.S. Love the old school Blitzo shot!
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martygarrison
Trad climber
Washington DC
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Jun 25, 2012 - 12:58pm PT
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Didn't know anything about it. Took a look at the link and low and behold I have a mention in the thing.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Jun 25, 2012 - 01:59pm PT
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I call "tilt" on that first photo. Look at the angle of the dangle of his gear. Juss' sayin'...
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Jun 25, 2012 - 02:21pm PT
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Impressive layout. It's strange to think of a Cali-centric climbing rag, but I like it anyway.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Jun 25, 2012 - 03:48pm PT
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Mooser said:
My question (as a Californian) is: when did we start calling California "Cali?" Can't abide.
I think that cropped up in the late 80s Gangsta Rap scene.
Like N.W.A. (Niggaz Wit Attitudes ... Easy E, "Straight Outta Compton" and so forth). Or maymbe Tone Loc ("Funky Cold Medina").
 Brandon: California centric? To me that defines California. I.e. West Coast trendsetting and etc.
... a bit of narcissism, an ounce of inventiveness, a splash of the unique, a gallon of go for it.
All the best to CALIFORNIA CLIMBER
And thanks for making the download possible: definitely a good move to get this thing rolling (market seeding).
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Jun 26, 2012 - 08:36am PT
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Thanks, Tarbuster. That could explain why I haven't fully embraced the moniker--much as I'm all about Gangsta Rap.
On the question of a "CA-centric" mag...I understand that there are some who feel that CA is the epicenter of climbing (and others who aren't too stoked about that perspective), but at the same time, I'd imagine that most CA climbers (like myself) would think it pretty cool to stumble across a mag called "Colorado Climber," or "Georgia Climber," or the like.
I'm definitely subscribin'!
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Jun 26, 2012 - 09:30am PT
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Roger dodger, and copy that mooser, per the state specific.
My next vote would be for a "Montana Climber" ... 'xcept it would be called "Montucky Climber", and you could read it but 'den dey have to kill you.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Jun 26, 2012 - 09:53am PT
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just to set you fellers straight on a few things--
california is the center of the climbing universe. i could prove it by dropping names here that would go off like nukes, but you should know this. a big reason for it is the misery of southern california. because we're miserable, we climb harder. what else is there to do, really?
san franciscans hate to hear "frisco". my theory is it derives from the days of the barbary coast when pockets were picked a lot.
san bernardinoans hate to hear "san berdoo" on los angeles traffic reports. it's the only attention they ever get from l.a. and it comes pretty close to "bird doo". i've developed my own nicknames, like san boodleloney and san gorgosaurus.
if you lived through the vietnam era, "cali" picked up a bad ring from lieutenant scapegoat. the other nickname for california is simply "cal", which is a contraction of "casual", which californians like to think they are because it takes their minds off miserable. berkeley is "cal"--pretty casual university, no? i'll bet no one in berkeley would ever admit they are miserable.
i hate to drift this thread too far, so let's get back to the subject at hand. i've worked on and written for half a dozen magazines, and i think this one has some potential--"the right place at the right time". i'd like to invite all of its staff down to southern california to suffer a little more. the picture on the back cover seems a step in the right direction:
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Jun 26, 2012 - 10:12am PT
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Alright... I was all skeptical *(eye-roll)* at first. A whole mag just about California? Was this just going to be another homage to beer and graffiti at Stoney Point or weekly pictures stolen from the El Cap report?... Well ... now that I actually perused the online copy.. they are winning me over.
It' looks great!
Route Data base from Noob.com:
California... the only state with #'s in the 5-digits... more than double the next most prolific state of Colorado.. I guess that can keep them busy with articles for a few years.
Alabama (840)
Alaska (949)
Arizona (3475)
Arkansas (1390)
California (14374)
Colorado (5836)
Connecticut (507)
Delaware (71)
Florida (17)
Georgia (784)
Hawaii (96)
Idaho (1853)
Illinois (889)
Indiana (54)
Iowa (238)
Kansas (10)
Kentucky (1344)
Louisiana (15)
Maine (457)
Maryland (839)
Massachusetts (666)
Michigan (146)
Minnesota (956)
Mississippi (48)
Missouri (624)
Montana (1349)
Nebraska (8)
Nevada (2198)
New Hampshire (1375)
New Jersey (290)
New Mexico (747)
New York (1566)
North Carolina (2091)
North Dakota (13)
Ohio (479)
Oklahoma (947)
Oregon (1479)
Pennsylvania (2313)
Puerto Rico (319)
Rhode Island (87)
South Carolina (97)
South Dakota (516)
Tennessee (1606)
Texas (2109)
Utah (4906)
Vermont (245)
Virginia (986)
Washington (1765)
Washington D.C. (2)
West Virginia (1952)
Wisconsin (625)
Wyoming (1642)
PS: Yup... "Cali" is lame. Only haters in flat states use that term.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Jun 26, 2012 - 10:44am PT
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Tony Bird:
I am an expatriate Californian, though having lived in Colorado for 23 years, it will always be so.
San Bernardino Freeway affectionately known as: The Sanbo Freeway, or just The Sanbo.
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Charlie B
Social climber
Santa Rosa, Ca
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Jun 27, 2012 - 04:17pm PT
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Great looking mag! Dean and the gang did a lot of work and it paid off for sure. Psyched to see the local places get some publicity and get everyone psyched! Keep 'em coming!
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Jun 29, 2012 - 08:39am PT
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Very nice, came out very good. I am even in one of the photos so it makes it even better.
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splitclimber
climber
Sonoma County
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Jun 29, 2012 - 01:50pm PT
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YEAH. Sic mag.
Nice pics of you Charlie on those beautiful coast boulders.
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altieboo
Boulder climber
Das Blase
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Hey SuperTaco!
I just came across this thread and on behalf of the CC Mag staff, I would like to thank you all for the AWESOME words, wishes and encouragement.
I personally am WAY psyched on how this first issue turned out. The paper quality is amazing and the writing is great. I had a blast designing the first issue and attempting to create a brand and look.
We are planning on releasing issue #2 in the early fall and are already working on it. It will have a similar feel and look to issue #1 but I will be attempting to push the design a bit more.
I wanted the first issue to look clean and sleek but not too conservatively designed. I didnt want to break out the first issue and have people be too overwhelmed. We struck a good balance with the first issue and will continue to build and grow. At the moment, while we are small (VERY SMALL), independently published and distributed, our design will always be in a constant state of change. Certain things will remain similar but be prepared for a different tune every issue.
We all like repeating the classic routes over and over, but a newly cleaned line is always going to be awesome. So diversity in creativity is our goal.
Also, one more thing. While this mag is California centric, I do currently live in Colorado (Deano lives in Sonora). Sooo, i wouldnt be lying if I told you that we hadnt talked about Colorado Climber. We just need some time.....
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brawa
climber
SAN
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Just got the 2nd (fall) issue in the mail yesterday and started perusing. So far same quality as the first, which is A++. Great pictures, great stories, like the Nettle interview. Thanks!
Love seeing some stuff that's familiar and a lot more that's a short newly-inspired roadtrip away.
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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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good to see Jerry's photos in print. Paper and photo quality is high. It would be great to see this mag take off. I guess I want to just remind you guys to learn from those who lost in the game of zine. Diversify without bleeding out. Western Climbing will give you a greater audience, more advertiser appeal and more opportunity to road trip yourselves for the mag. Pay more attention to editorship of the written word. Assume that your audience is educated and do not limit your target demographic unnecessarily. Keep the photo quality high. Don't be creating a publicity rag to showcase yourselves. I know this is cheeky to just give you all this unasked for advice, but so many have failed at this difficult task out of editorial egocentricity. Congrats and Good LUCK it's a nice first issue! (I tried to subscribe too, a while back, but couldn't do it)
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Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
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California Climber = oxymoron.
pud - "The Song Remains the Same" was our Valley soundtrack . . . lots of connections.
Robert Plant is such a girlie man!
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Salamanizer
Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
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The new magazine is awesome. New routes, new crags, tons of inspiring photos to get you up off your ass and out climbing at a new crag near you.
This mag has the beginnings of what a climbing publication should be. Inspiration.... Not a lame magazine chock full of who's who, what's the latest garb endless articles about someone on some route 99.9% of climbers could never climb even on their best day.
Awesome job guys. Love it!!
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Yes I have seen it and it's very good, very well presented. Best part is it may help keep some climbers out of Colorado.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 6, 2012 - 08:06am PT
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Thanks for the hard work and excellent results. I'm looking forward to the next edition.
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Sebastopol
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Deano is amazing, and Alton, great job on the classy design!
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Technogeekery
Trad climber
Sydney, Australia
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^^ that is a 360Mb file for anyone tempted to click on it...
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caughtinside
Social climber
Davis, CA
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I just got the new issue and it is awesome! Great photos of great areas, not just the usual telling pros how great they are.
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lars johansen
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Good start. There was life at Salt Point in the 70's. Hard to believe.
lars
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Roughster
Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
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Sep 10, 2012 - 11:53am PT
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Hopefully they will post an online link for this issue as well as I didn't remember to subscribe in time to get this edition. I want to read Jerry's slander of Table Rock personally before I get my panties in a bunch. :P
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altieboo
Boulder climber
Das Blase
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Sep 10, 2012 - 03:39pm PT
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@Roughster - We should have a downloadable .PDF up on our site this week. Also it is probably not to late to subscribe and get a copy of this issue. Just do it NOW!
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Roughster
Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
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Sep 10, 2012 - 03:54pm PT
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Just subscribed. Looking forward to reading it!
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splitclimber
climber
Sonoma County
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Sep 11, 2012 - 02:19pm PT
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nutin' but love for both sides of the highway in the article. great pic of a gal on Aloha Patrol. you'll be stoked Rough. can't wait for Thornburg's guidebook too.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Sep 16, 2012 - 04:09pm PT
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Minimize "gym" coverage. Its like covering masturbation in a porno mag...
At least you didn't write Minimize "gym" coverage. Its like covering a porno mag in masturbation ...
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Sep 17, 2012 - 12:23pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^^ See, tis is what happens when people make a post and others respond to it and then the original post is pulled.
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altieboo
Sport climber
Das Blase
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Oct 23, 2012 - 11:10am PT
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Issue 3 is ALMOST in the works..... STAY TUNED!!!!
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Apr 29, 2016 - 07:03pm PT
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Well the content sux [ ;-) ] but the price is right
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Apr 29, 2016 - 07:13pm PT
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thebravecowboy, I'm sure you've critiqued a lot of publications so I'm sure I'll be embarrassed when I ask you for your credentials. jess sayin'.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Apr 29, 2016 - 07:39pm PT
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Anybody seen the new climbing mag California Climber?
I assume it's the print version of this website.
Curt
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Apr 29, 2016 - 08:03pm PT
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didn't read a word but found the photos totally lacking ;-)
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