What's up with all the Werner Braun bashing?

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rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 24, 2012 - 07:50am PT
Have any of these people actually met him before?

My guess is no.

I was introduced to him seven or eight years ago by Grant. He took me on a tour of the SAR cache, showed me his office and chatted me up. He had plenty of better things to do but still took the time.

Stand up guy.
Norwegian

Trad climber
Placerville, California
Apr 24, 2012 - 08:02am PT
werner is a beacon
ships lost and ships merry are drawn toward him.

ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Apr 24, 2012 - 08:18am PT
Same experience Fonda. Spent about an hour with us and Merry even offered her Martin guitar as I was hangin' out in their office. Next mornin saw me at the cafeteria early in the morning and offered to buy breakfast. Has always taken the time to make me feel like he wanted me there.
Peace
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 24, 2012 - 08:21am PT
Yup, that's the guy!!!!

By the way, good for you Ron. I know what your up to these days and it's way beyond noble.

My hats off to you!!!
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Apr 24, 2012 - 08:24am PT
SUPER bummed to miss the show, but got a good gig going right now and the people I'm working with.....well they HAVE paid the ultimate price and have to keep dealing with the life they've been dealt. Thanks for the good words Robert.
Peace
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Apr 24, 2012 - 08:27am PT
A good ole parking lot beat down under the GTO..
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 24, 2012 - 08:51am PT
Actually Walleye, that's the Joshua Tree version of Auto Shop...
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Apr 24, 2012 - 09:55am PT
I think that ugly car was a Lemond...Lemans Le....something. Not a GTO. Probably worth a fortune today if he had it and it was running. Werner's a good dude. When he says stuff like "American's are so stupid", you just need to skim it (ie, pass over it) like Neebees intos "Say hey "
elcap-pics

Big Wall climber
Crestline CA
Apr 24, 2012 - 11:58am PT
Slow winter brings out the lunies. Werner is A-OK in my book.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
merced, california
Apr 24, 2012 - 12:33pm PT
If only Robbins had stayed on in the Valley like Werner...
But his ailments, you know, it makes you sad.
Let's be glad we still have old Wheezer around to poke.
Let's be Merry, who is glad, so glad, so glad, so glad.
To poke or not to poke is not a question, but a decision.
I just thought it might be fun to take a stab at analyzing this roast.
And don't tell me to "Analyze this" because in the final analysis, Werner has the most points. He's the Abdul Jabber of my generation.
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Trad climber
San Francisco, Ca
Apr 24, 2012 - 12:40pm PT
Probably because some people don't get the continuous comments about everyone being "pussies" or "stupid Americans." I'm ambivalent about it all--sometimes it's funny sometimes not--but can see how it rubs some the wrong way.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Apr 24, 2012 - 01:01pm PT
This thread is just mental speculation by a bunch of stupid American pussies.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Apr 24, 2012 - 01:13pm PT
you a US citizen now?

No. I thought about trying to become one, but I knew they'd find out I wasn't stupid enough and refuse my application.

Edit: Damn. I'm sorry. What I should have said was something along the lines of "Citizenship is just mental speculation. No one really lives in this world or its stupid countries."
jahil

Social climber
London, Paris, WV & CA
Apr 24, 2012 - 01:27pm PT
People hating on Werner ? Must be all the bolt chopping gym climbers.

:)

I've never met Werner, but I've seen him from afar in the Yosar office after his lovely wife rescued my sorry ass.

It seems some people who post here have not developed a sense of humor. Peace to you all - when you have developed said sense of humor and hell has frozen over you will be worthy to talk to him.

Okay lets get back to the bolt wars - because you know how important that is.

steve
jahil

Social climber
London, Paris, WV & CA
Apr 24, 2012 - 01:34pm PT
`If you had to be rescued, you are not worthy to talk DOWN to me ;-) '

Actually. I'm not worthy to talk down to anyone as I have learnt to my cost - my wife is 5 feet high and I am 6 feet.

Must get back to the gym to pull on some plastic and cut some bolts.

steve

Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 24, 2012 - 01:36pm PT
Could have something to do with his online "fisherman" persona perhaps?
nature

climber
CO
Apr 24, 2012 - 01:43pm PT
werner is awesome and was a great help to me getting some sushi supplies back in '08.

but he comes off in a generally not so positive way on the taco.

I'm not surprised some have a problem with it.

but it's one thing when he trolls and calls us all stupid humans. it's another when he twists logic in his own special way (to the point logic is gone).

and nobody is or should be imune to criticism.

though I'd never ever call him a turd - i save that for blueboi and a few others.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Apr 24, 2012 - 03:11pm PT
This thread is just mental speculation by a bunch of stupid American pussies.


Exactly what I was thinking.....
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 24, 2012 - 03:18pm PT
Awesome. Because three threads wanking about Werner just weren't sufficient, we needed yet another. Stupid azz mental speculators.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Apr 24, 2012 - 03:23pm PT
But it is true...
That Werner does think we are all Stupid, right?

If all I saw was what we posted here, I'd probably think the same!

John
nature

climber
CO
Apr 24, 2012 - 03:29pm PT
locker for the put back! +1
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 24, 2012 - 04:57pm PT
Werner is the bomb, being called stupid by him is at least affirmation that you exist.
Port

Trad climber
San Diego
Apr 24, 2012 - 04:58pm PT
Very FEW people actually have a problem with WBraun. There really isn't that much bashing if you actually read the god damn threads. From all accounts, Braun is really nice when you meet him in person and a total prick online. Sound familiar? That MO fits 90% of Supertopians.
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Apr 24, 2012 - 05:40pm PT
being called stupid by him is at least affirmation that you exist.

I see it as an a$$hole calling a penis a prick.

Even if I'm the prick, I still know where the sh#t comes from.

[edit]

Funny that penis and prick didn't get mangled.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Apr 24, 2012 - 05:47pm PT
SuperTopo enables Werner to converse more readily with old and new friends, maybe sh#t talk a bit, and occasionally add his stories and pearls of wisdom to the mix. Most of us have better hearing, and more options for communicating.
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Apr 24, 2012 - 06:36pm PT
This could be called stupid. The note with it said the rescuee was drunk.

There's a part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yodT5YE1cec

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Apr 24, 2012 - 11:31pm PT
…and what if the senior lion growls a mite ?

Who is more indulgent than the father of the pride?

wannabeen

climber
Apr 25, 2012 - 01:20am PT
Dear all you sensitive types... get over it. Go have a latte and a good cry. Werner has won.
KabalaArch

Trad climber
Starlite, California
Apr 25, 2012 - 01:30am PT
Anyone here ski "Werner's" at Mammoth?

It took me a few years to develop the skillset, since I didn't know how to ski when I moved up here and started with Chair 11. Plus, all of the Top (the section between the top gondola station and Huevos) had been closed for 10 years.

When Patrol finally opened it, I was ready. It was about 3 o'clock on one of those sultry midwinter afternoons that produces turquoise skies over Mono Lake.

Since I'd always regarded Werner's, Junior's, Cerbes, Balls to the Wall as the 5.12 of skiing, I was understandably apprehensive. But, no worries, they're only 5.9+, like everything else.

Instead of dropping directly into the 70+ degree chute's fall line right off the bat, do some short radius check wedlins on the arete to the skiers left, until a ledge called "Waddy's Chasim (which offers a traverse escape into adjacent Junior's) appears. Windshield Wiper down the sidewall of the arete into the chute's throat. Since the throat is only about 130 cm wide, you'll want to keep the mandatory schuss in it to less than 70 feet vertical. Because, at the base of the chute is a dogleg left. Blow it, and you're looking at about 50 feet of sky.

Several dozen turns brings you to the top of Climax, which looks like Broadway from the top of Werners'.

I didn't know that Werner worked ski patrol at The Mountain until recently. Go figure. I learned to ski this stuff by skiing Phillipe's every time I was on the Mtn, which is to say, every day. When Werner's was my powder day warm up run, I was finished, and I no longer ski, even after many backcountry years on similar terrain.
nopantsben

climber
Apr 25, 2012 - 04:04am PT
Werner is the bomb, being called stupid by him is at least affirmation that you exist.

hahahahhaha +1
Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Apr 25, 2012 - 05:35am PT
SuperTopo enables Werner to converse more readily with old and new friends, maybe sh#t talk a bit, and occasionally add his stories and pearls of wisdom to the mix. Most of us have better hearing, and more options for communicating.


Mighty Hiker continues his lifework of discernment with the above post. (Canadian horse sense )

…being a Yosemite outsider and junior to the Stonemaster era, probably not my place to comment on difficulties Werner may have had to overcome.

I’ve had a speech impediment…like the singer Carly Simon, I don’t stutter when I sing …but otherwise, God have mercy ! That detriment gave impetus to over- participation on various internet forums offering communication on more correspondent terms.

Whatever brings Werner to love the forum medium…I’m persuaded by those who say Werner’s jeering at friends and yapping at newbies and infidels, here, is done in jest…being insightful and having a sense of humor he might expect people apprehend the levity in semi-caustic counseling.

Some don’t.

O.K. his quip about Pocatello women’s beehive hair was gross, mean and unholy…completely without humor. But usually he’s just pretending mean.
:-)
dirtbag

climber
Apr 25, 2012 - 09:29am PT
For Werner!

Greg Epperson

climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 25, 2012 - 10:00am PT
Werner and The Red Zinger, circa 1986

Rigid stem Friends - check
FROG harness - check
Wilderness Experience "Kauk" pants - check
Boreal Fires (with socks) - check
Exactly 6 pieces of gear (yikes) - check
Chalk bag on a shoulder sling - check


http://www.rock-climbingphotos.com/details.php?gid=89&pid=1082
fsck

climber
Apr 25, 2012 - 11:58am PT
i like it best when wbraun uses the word "dumbass".

not sure why, just makes me smile.

i can see it now: lashed high up on the Captain in a terrible storm, squealing like a baby for a rescue. here comes werner to save the day. freesolo short-ropes me to the summit, calls me a dumbass, lights a cig and starts down the falls trail. how awesome would that be?
the kid

Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
Apr 25, 2012 - 12:39pm PT
mouse from merced

Trad climber
merced, california
Apr 25, 2012 - 12:48pm PT
jahil:

A man with no sense of humor is truly stupid.
But ignorance is not necessarily stupidity.

One way to get to sound wise is to use words which make one sound wise like "truly."

The "point" of this thread, it appears, is to enjoy the humor.

Werner, enjoy the roast. And you know you could put your eye out doing that?
dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Apr 25, 2012 - 07:28pm PT
Locker, screw this talking about Werner. I just want to hear about your new avitar. Picture taken on last saturday (4/21/12) night correct?

If so,.....I understand.
zBrown

Ice climber
Chula Vista, CA
Apr 25, 2012 - 07:40pm PT
In 2010 this living legend said:

There are people out there 40 years my junior who can't do what I do, even to this day.

Was it William Clinton? Werner Braun? Rheinhold Messner? Willie Mays?



mouse from merced

Trad climber
merced, california
Apr 25, 2012 - 07:41pm PT
Locker,thanks for the yucks.

It looks as if Werner enjoys gettin' bashed just as much as you.

We all appreciate humor. My appreciator's "draggin' on the ground."

"I'm so excited, I just can't stand it."

There is nothin' like disco to get a party revved up.
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 25, 2012 - 10:23pm PT
Eppie nailed it.
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