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Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Feb 16, 2012 - 03:30am PT
Dan's advice would be mine.

I guess I'm the third doc to post who had lasik, and I've been very happy.
The only issue for me is that my eyes dry easily in wind or dry environments, and simple eyedrops take care of it.

I wear reading glasses, but that was coming. I opted not to go for a one eye correction, that would likely have eliminated the glasses, as I thought that stereotopic vision would be better on the heights.
jclimb1

Trad climber
Moab, UT
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2012 - 01:11pm PT
Thanks for the input, everyone. I postponed the surgery. Gonna give it some more thought.
John Mac

Trad climber
Littleton, CO
Feb 17, 2012 - 01:50pm PT
Has anyone looked into this as an alternative for those of us who are are blind as a bat!

http://www.visianinfo.com/html/icl-eye-surgery.html

Basically it's a lens implant.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Feb 17, 2012 - 02:16pm PT
John Mac,

Cataract surgery is also a lens implant. The ophthalmologist removes the natural lens and replaces it with a synthetic one. I had catarct surgeries on both eyes twelve years ago, and was amazed at the change. The surgeries were quick and painless, and the results were immediately apparent. I had both surgeries early in the morning, stopped by my office to make sure everything was OK, then went home and watched March Madness without glasses, with a clarity I hadn't had in years.

John
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Feb 17, 2012 - 02:33pm PT
Like a miracle


Enjoy
roadman

climber
Feb 17, 2012 - 03:22pm PT
Had PRK from Dr. Levinson in denver and it went great. (2009) I had a slowish recovery, but nothing that bad really. I have 20/15, 20/10 vision now. I have dry eyes now and didn't before. It's more of an issue b/c I live in a high dry environment. I don't notice it near the ocean. Definitely be careful the days and weeks after keeping things clean and following your drop schedule. You will be losing your bowmens layer so that means you must wear sunglasses and or a hat for the rest of your life. Those UV's (that cause catoracts) will reek havac on you're "new" eyes. Not that big a deal as sun on the eyes is bad no matter what! One more little tid bit. Steriod drops cause cateracts! After your 500th drop that is! The amount of detail you can go to with all this informaion is just that information! Knowledge comes from those who do it and do it well. If you trust your Doc. it's a no brainer. If you don't, find one you do. Best of luck.
Banquo

climber
Amerricka
Feb 17, 2012 - 07:28pm PT
I had lasik done in 2005. I was very near sighted wearing -6.25 diopter correction. I was happy with contacts but started getting infections - probably due to my bad contact lens cleanliness habits when in the boonies. Sometimes it just isn't possible to wash your hands, etc.

Anyway, I had both eyes fixed. Since I am of reading glasses age, the doc asked if I wanted to do the close eye, far eye thing but I told him I didn't mind reading glasses and wanted the best distance vision I could get. I stressed that clear distance vision was what was important to me.

In the process they mash the front of your eye flat and carefully slice off the front to form a flap. They peel back the flap and fire a pattern of laser dots to reshape it. Then they squeegee the flap back in place and send you home.

I was unhappy with the result, not only was I wearing reading glasses as expected but I had to get a pair of driving glasses so I could read the signs as far off as I was used to. I was carrying two pairs of glasses around. After a couple checkups the doc agreed to touch up the eye that ended up the most near sighted. The unsettling thing was that after six months, he didn't have to re-cut the flap. He just peeled it open again. Tells me they don't really know if it ever heals! I have visions of Curly or Moe poking me in the eye and peeling the flap off. Perhaps I should wear goggles.

The result is one eye that is sort of ok, the retouched eye won't focus closer than about 6 feet and I am too creeped out to have it done again, not ever.

The correction isn't as precise as a pair of glasses or contacts so former contact wearers might be disappointed with the precision of the result. I think this is especially true if the correction is large as in my case. I have heard that 1/4 diopter error from target correction is about the best you can hope for.

I can find my way around the house without glasses which is nice and I don't have to deal with contacts which wasn't that big of a deal anyway.
crusher

climber
Santa Monica, CA
Feb 18, 2012 - 01:23pm PT
Hey JClimb, you're right I was forgetting that the PRK wasn't a flap. I think the whole knife slices to the eye aspect of PRK has always had me freaked out and anyway apparently with my eye problems the Lasik Wavefront would be most effective. I don't have astigmatisms but am soooo nearsighted - get this - one eye is -6.75 the other is -7.50. And now I'm starting to need reading glasses.

Dr. wants to give me "mono vision" - one eye slightly under corrected so I won't need the reading glasses as badly for a bit longer. I tried this out with my contacts and it drove me insane. Although I work on the computer most of the day, seeing slightly blurry in one eye at the mid and far distance was more than I could take. I just noticed it too much.

I, like you, have thick corneas and seem to be a good candidate for the surgery physically, but for some reason am still anxious about it. To get rid of the contact lens hassles would be nice. So maybe this year will be it for me.

It does sound like you've done your homework. Can you talk to some other patients your Dr. has treated with the same procedure - to see how they're doing and if they had any complications?

Good luck and keep us posted please!

Edit - John Mac, a friend of mine had the lens implant surgery for vision correction and it was a major disaster. I'm not sure this procedure is up to speed yet - maybe it was just her but she is now really badly off and can't have Lasik and is basically stuck with damaged eyes.

Re. cataracts/cataract surgery - my Dr. assured me that should I need cataract surgery in the future after Lasik, no problem. Maybe this is dependent on an individual's cornea thickness. Who knows? My Mom just had her cataracts removed from both eyes - she was a bit near sighted before, says now her clarity of vision is astounding and she seems to not need her distance glasses anymore. Interesting. She's 75 by the way.
Edwardmw

climber
Feb 18, 2012 - 01:47pm PT
I had Lasik surgery on both eyes about 10 years ago. Everything went smooth. I had better than 20/20 in both eyes immediately. It is a gift to be able to see perfectly. I would say go forward with the procedure.
MikeCoza

Social climber
Manila, Philippines
Apr 5, 2012 - 01:55am PT
Laser Eye Surgery is the best option for eye enhancing but it is very expensive & not every can afford it. And some says that there are risks in this surgery. That's why I also cancelled my lasik surgery operation, for now I am using the natural vision correction through doing eye exercises like call the ball, follow your thumb, palming, bead & string, look away. And remember that healthy diet is very important too, to sustain the nutrients/vitamins needed by the eyes.

bit.ly/HowGetRidOfYourGlasses
crusher

climber
Santa Monica, CA
Apr 5, 2012 - 05:29pm PT
Good luck with that one MikeCoza. That would never work for me or I imagine, most of us here. Sounds like exercises to strenghten a lazy eye, or may to re-focus at distance when you've been reading.

If it worked then so many people wouldn't be having Lasik.

Dorje

Trad climber
Valley of Smoke
Aug 27, 2013 - 02:01pm PT
I am strongly considering surgery. Any recommendations for a good Dr in LA?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 27, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
You can't do much better than the Jules Stein Eye Institute at UCLA unless
you are in the OC in which case the Gavin Herbert Eye Institute at UC Irvine
would be an equally good choice. You should know that not everyone is a
candidate for lasik (just so you don't get your hopes up unrealistically).
Dorje

Trad climber
Valley of Smoke
Aug 27, 2013 - 02:21pm PT
Thanks for the lead.

I was a good candidate when I looked into it 5 years ago.
Stevee B

Trad climber
Oakland, CA
Aug 27, 2013 - 02:56pm PT
Dr. Salz in Beverly Hills. Research him, unparalleled.
Had it done 12 years ago, not a single complaint.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 27, 2013 - 03:28pm PT
I asked about eye surgery incessantly until my optometrist, a low vision specialist at the forefront of most innovations in treating low visions, finally said that the surgery techniques and tools were finally a decent option for me. I was so incredibly near sighted that they promised me I would continue to need glasses after the surgery. I signed up anyway since my very poor vision made me a great candidate to die in a fire, not be able to find anything quickly in an emergency, dead in the water if a contact came out skiing or climbing. I was hoping to just be able to see the alarm clock from bed or find my way out of a hotel in an emergency. I had -19.25 in one eye and -18.50 in the other eye.

My optometrist personally vetted the surgeon who did the procedure. He actually went down to the surgery with me. OK, I was one of his first patients and had been his patient for 30 years, subject of several studies on the very first gas permeable lenses and assorted other advances in contact lenses. He arrested the rapid deterioration of my vision which threatened to blind me completely in my early teens. Based on my optometrist's recommendation and research, I had full confidence that this surgeon was qualified.

The only good news about my eyes was that the corneas were abnormally thick. Even though they promised about 15 diopters of correction, the surgeon thought there might be room to go for a little more. I told him in no uncertain terms to go for it.

For the first time in my life I can function wihtout any vision correction. I needed one contact to help me read, and I needed nothing else for 13 years. Previously I was uncorrectable to 20/20. After surgery, I was slightly farsighted. It was a whole new game. I was deliriously happy that I did this. Yes, threading a needle was not as easy as it used to be, but I could read street signs and recognize faces from across the room. Life is good.

14 years later, I use a mild correction to see well driving at night. I also use reading glasses. I am no longer afraid that if I lose a lense skiing, swimming, or climbing that I will become incapacitated. At 56 years old, the old lense doesn't adjust as well between near and far, day and night. But that is entirely normal. At least I can still see the alarm clock from my bed, climb without any vision correction, etc. I have been to Denali, and I have take up scuba. It all works.

Talk to your optometrist. Trust who that person trusts.
crusher

climber
Santa Monica, CA
Aug 27, 2013 - 04:17pm PT
Seamstress, Holy Canoli!

I thought I was bad and I'm -6.50 and -7.50.

SteveeB - my Dr. is also Dr. James Salz! Funny coincidence. He is excellent and very well versed in Lasik. He is also an avid skier so he understands about outdoor pursuits.

Dorje - check him out. His office is on Wilshire Blvd. in WLA near Federal. I've also heard Dr. Maloney in Westwood is great but I haven't had a consult with him.

Please keep us posted if you have the surgery. Like some here I am still in contemplation mode but am getting closer to doing it. Life is too short and there are things I want to do that are hindered by my reliance on contacts/glasses.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jul 27, 2015 - 02:23pm PT
Bump
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jul 27, 2015 - 02:25pm PT
Thinking about getting the eyes cut, after so many years. There's some good beta here in this thread, but I'm open to more if it's out there...

In particular, recommendations on resources near Palm Springs, Inland Empire, or even in the LA area (including or in addition to those mentioned at UCLA, Irvine & BH). Or places NOT to go...all beta is appreciated!
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Jul 27, 2015 - 08:41pm PT
hey there say, seamstress... wow, as to this, your share:

I asked about eye surgery incessantly until my optometrist, a low vision specialist at the forefront of most innovations in treating low visions, finally said that the surgery techniques and tools were finally a decent option for me. I was so incredibly near sighted that they promised me I would continue to need glasses after the surgery. I signed up anyway since my very poor vision made me a great candidate to die in a fire, not be able to find anything quickly in an emergency, dead in the water if a contact came out skiing or climbing. I was hoping to just be able to see the alarm clock from bed or find my way out of a hotel in an emergency. I had -19.25 in one eye and -18.50 in the other eye.

My optometrist personally vetted the surgeon who did the procedure. He actually went down to the surgery with me. OK, I was one of his first patients and had been his patient for 30 years, subject of several studies on the very first gas permeable lenses and assorted other advances in contact lenses. He arrested the rapid deterioration of my vision which threatened to blind me completely in my early teens. Based on my optometrist's recommendation and research, I had full confidence that this surgeon was qualified.

The only good news about my eyes was that the corneas were abnormally thick. Even though they promised about 15 diopters of correction, the surgeon thought there might be room to go for a little more. I told him in no uncertain terms to go for it.

For the first time in my life I can function wihtout any vision correction. I needed one contact to help me read, and I needed nothing else for 13 years. Previously I was uncorrectable to 20/20. After surgery, I was slightly farsighted. It was a whole new game. I was deliriously happy that I did this. Yes, threading a needle was not as easy as it used to be, but I could read street signs and recognize faces from across the room. Life is good.

14 years later, I use a mild correction to see well driving at night. I also use reading glasses. I am no longer afraid that if I lose a lense skiing, swimming, or climbing that I will become incapacitated. At 56 years old, the old lense doesn't adjust as well between near and far, day and night. But that is entirely normal. At least I can still see the alarm clock from my bed, climb without any vision correction, etc. I have been to Denali, and I have take up scuba. It all works.

Talk to your optometrist. Trust who that person trusts.


wow!!! i am so very very happy for your freedom to see now, to do 'the greatoutdoors' with more ability!!

my eyes are not as bad as yours, but i sure know what you meant about:
losing a contact, and thus not being able to fully function, :O


wow... so glad... happy greatoutdoors to you, continually now, and thanks for sharing, what just might be a 'new way of life for someone' ...

yet, yes, i do agree, as well, with those that have to say:

CAUTION... such a very hard study, really is needed, to decide all this, as if it is for you, or not...
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