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Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 8, 2012 - 03:01pm PT
Not my wife, but you get the idea. Would love to see the woman climb!

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Tahoe climber

climber
Davis these days
Jan 8, 2012 - 03:09pm PT
strong flexible women bump

it just feels on topic

tc
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Jan 8, 2012 - 03:13pm PT
I betcha Tami can do that in a snow suit!
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 8, 2012 - 03:19pm PT
Tami... I will have my wife translate and post later today.
go-B

climber
Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
Jan 8, 2012 - 03:22pm PT
5.15d
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jan 8, 2012 - 04:36pm PT
Incredible skills.
Double D

climber
Jan 8, 2012 - 06:46pm PT
Wow!
Mtnmun

Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
Jan 8, 2012 - 07:35pm PT
Holy balancing act!
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Jan 8, 2012 - 08:07pm PT
Wow!!

...a little bit of research and that's [edit] a 3rd generation circus performer. Some of the other videos show her first performance at 2 1/2 years old. She's no closer to an average Russian than Bachar is to an average American :-)
[snip]
dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Jan 10, 2012 - 08:18pm PT
....and she has 6 kids.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jan 10, 2012 - 08:32pm PT
yeschaw raz, bozhe moi! Ona ochen krasivaya e talented!

All I caught was malodyetz, which is, I thought, a compliment you would say to a man.


no cyrillic on this computer.... at least where I can find it, yet

(Alexey, this unit runs OSX10.7.2 is it (cyrillic) in here?)
tatasmovik

climber
Feb 12, 2012 - 01:00pm PT
Hi guys. Accidentally stumbled upon this thread and seeing some of the comments, as well as the title of this page, I'd like to clear a few things you guys kind of made up.

-She's not a Russian, she's an Armenian from Russia.
-The person filming is her mother, who spoke to her in both Armenian and Russian.
-She doesn't have six kids. The kid running around is her baby sister.


P.S.
Please keep your sick fantasies ("Fewer clothes would be nice") to yoursf.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Feb 12, 2012 - 01:04pm PT
Hi, welcome to Supertopo.

Thick skin and a sense of humor help.

HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Feb 12, 2012 - 01:11pm PT
Brandon +2

Jaybro
no cyrillic on this computer.... at least where I can find it, yet
I wouldn't know Cryllic if it bit me in the face.
But I think it's at the bottom of the default list: System Preferences -> Language and Text -> Language.
Easy enough to put it at the top of your list and find out.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 12, 2012 - 01:22pm PT
Check it; tatasmovik found this after a month.

Kind of doubt he is a climber.
But the info is interesting.
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Feb 12, 2012 - 01:36pm PT
A while back my wife came across a postcard from a relative that had been sent from a camp in Siberia in the 40's. The postcard was written in German but there was a cyrillic label. We figured it was the name of the camp, and as this information had been lost to the family history, we were excited to find out the name of the camp. I found a site that gave the phonetic pronunciation of each letter, then I found a site that you could type in the phonetic name of each letter and it would translate into English.

Going back and forth I painstakingly entered each letter and then we held our breath as I hit return to find out the name of the camp. The answer to what the translation of the cyrillic label was..........POSTCARD.

I'm still laughing........
bmacd

Mountain climber
100% Canadian
Feb 12, 2012 - 01:36pm PT
modern nutrition and hard work at it's finest, but too much clothing for sure !
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Feb 12, 2012 - 02:45pm PT
Tatasmovik

Armenians are known for their strong will, so I should resist, but anyway: I think the fewer-clothes-comment was meant as a compliment and not necessarily a sick one. ;o)
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Feb 12, 2012 - 03:17pm PT
That's one of the most impressive feats of core strength I've seen in, maybe ever.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 12, 2012 - 03:51pm PT
The tatasmovik avatar was obviously chosen by somebody not familiar with
english slang, especially if they're gonna complain about purportedly prurient posts.
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Feb 13, 2012 - 11:31am PT
there can always be further challenges:

GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Feb 13, 2012 - 11:52am PT
.... because they are inexpensive?
jfailing

Trad climber
Lone Pine
Feb 13, 2012 - 11:53am PT
I bet she could mantel really well.
tatasmovik

climber
Feb 13, 2012 - 02:28pm PT
Like I said, I accidentally stumbled upon this thread. I'm not really a climber (unless you count climbing cylinders :P), I'm her sister.

I do have a sense of humor, guys. It's just that my culture and discipline kind of make it feel disrespectful when such comments are made towards my sister. She doesn't need fewer clothes to practice and definitely doesn't need such comments in her address, either. I personally find that dishonorable, ok?



ec

climber
ca
Feb 13, 2012 - 02:36pm PT
With all due respect, to avoid undesired comments, don't post anything on the Web. Otherwise, expect it.
 ec
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Feb 13, 2012 - 02:43pm PT
I'm sorry for posting her name! Didn't think about this showing up high in searches as a result.... but "power of the Taco".

I tried to edit the post just now, but cannot. I'm able to edit more recent posts, but not old ones. This was not the case in the past.

Am emailing the admin to delete my post if they can.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 13, 2012 - 02:44pm PT
I guess we better not tell her what tatas are,....
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Feb 13, 2012 - 03:08pm PT
Tatasmovik- Every person on this site looking at that video is appreciating a beautiful performer with astounding skills. I'm totally blown away. Hopefully her name will be deleted from the post now that a request has been sent. EC is correct. It is probably best not to post anything on the internet in the future if your family is sensitive about privacy.

PS: Just ignore the Canadian. Everyone else does.
nature

climber
Aridzona for now Denver.... here I come...
Feb 13, 2012 - 03:10pm PT
first it's the italians telling us what to do and now it's the Russians.

when Somalians start directing us I'm moving to India.
jfailing

Trad climber
Lone Pine
Feb 13, 2012 - 03:12pm PT
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 13, 2012 - 03:23pm PT
Jim, I'm sure you can't imagine the hearbreak of only getting a silver.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Feb 13, 2012 - 03:33pm PT
Tatasmovik

Be proud about your sister. She's the best. Her skills are far beyond anything I thought possible. Armenians rule!

... and Italians. LOL... And Nature: don't forget the Russian climbers and the Ukranian boxers.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 13, 2012 - 04:07pm PT
Doug,
the Italians didn't exactly tell us what to do, but rather what not to undo.


And she is Armenian.
tatasmovik

climber
Feb 13, 2012 - 04:18pm PT
Thank you guys, I am proud of my sister, but in no way am I here to dispute or tell anyone what to do. All I ask is to be respectful, because my sister deserves respect. Of course you guys are all free to think or say what you want, but I too am free to say what I think of some of the comments in reference to my sister and ask to be a bit more respectful.

Again, thank you guys. I really appreciate all the decent comments and the creator of this tread. By the way, don't worry about it. You don't have to delete this thread, it's not a problem at all.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Feb 13, 2012 - 06:48pm PT
Oy... Would it be just TOO much to be polite and say something like "We understand your concern for your sister; thank you for posting" and leave it at that? Why does anyone have to snip at the woman? Would WE want to see a bunch of strangers(some stranger than others) posting "less clothes" about our OWN sisters?
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Feb 13, 2012 - 06:57pm PT
Hey tatasmovik, RJ, the site admin, edited out your sister's name and the links. This thread will be quickly fading from searches with your sister's name.

She, and the rest of your family, have amazing talents!
jstan

climber
Feb 13, 2012 - 07:09pm PT
Some cultures still do what we used to do in the US. Perform some editing so that what we say does not simply mirror what we are thinking. IMO this practice is much to be admired.

In the video I noted that no room was cleared around the hand stands so as to permit an unobstructed fall. And the lady's focus was so complete the distractions did not interfere.

Further, I would have thought a nearly five minute hand stand would be difficult just due to blood pooling in the brain.

An incredible performer on many levels.

To see more of this kind of class, Netflix has a film on arm wrestling with the Russian champion Alexey Voevoda and John Breznk of the US.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Feb 13, 2012 - 07:44pm PT
Did we ever find out why you married a Russian Woman?
BooYah

Social climber
Ely, Nv
Feb 13, 2012 - 08:11pm PT
My sister looks better in fewer clothings, too. She agrees.
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2012 - 08:26pm PT
BooYah... I agree and I have not even met your sister!
go-B

climber
Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
Feb 13, 2012 - 08:27pm PT
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2012 - 12:35am PT
Whoops Go-b... She is from Ukraine.

More Russian female athletes...

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 14, 2012 - 12:38am PT
The goalie gets to use his hands, right?
tatasmovik

climber
Feb 14, 2012 - 01:28am PT
Thanks again, guys.

Rokjox, I speak four languages --Russian, Armenian, Bulgarian, and English, but can only write in three out of the four. Unless one counts how I seldom read and write in Armenian, because I was only born there while my parents were on tour performing in Yerevan... That was kind of lucky, because I'm the only kid in the family who's born in our native country.
Dos XX

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Feb 14, 2012 - 01:29am PT
I just saw this for the first time. Holy sh*t! Da! Da!
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Feb 14, 2012 - 08:39am PT
Would WE want to see a bunch of strangers(some stranger than others) posting "less clothes" about our OWN sisters?

This sick bunch would probably post it about their own sisters.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Feb 14, 2012 - 10:25am PT
Did we ever find out why you married a Russian Woman?

Because the other kind don't come from mail-order catalogs?
pyrosis

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Feb 14, 2012 - 10:51am PT
Tatasmovik - Your sister's skills are beyond amazing. I am still trying to learn a simple press to handstand so I know quite well, even this simple skill is extremely difficult to the untrained. What your sister does is so far beyond that it is incomprehensible.

V15 hand balancing FTW!!
tatasmovik

climber
Feb 14, 2012 - 11:21am PT
Thanks, pyrosis! I too used to practice handstands when I was a kid, but I was never good at it. I could never do what she does.

Rokjox, we live in Florida now, so we rarely head west. The last time we performed in California was 8 years ago... We actually do a whole show. Here's a short clip of it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsAJEvzVSjw (by the way, you can see the rest of our acts if you go to the uploader's channel).

We are at home for now, but I will definitely let you know where and when our next gig is going to be.
scuffy b

climber
heading slowly NNW
Feb 14, 2012 - 12:17pm PT
Rokjox, why is your English so much better in this thread than in others?
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Feb 14, 2012 - 12:22pm PT
Tatasmovik

Extraordinary skills.

You haven't asked for advice so I shouldn't give them. But here they come, from an ignorant, but an observer non the less: The wrapping of the show is cheap and not anywhere near the incredible level of the skills. You should change the show by moving in the direction of art or simplicity. Though it depends on which audience you have the goal of reaching. If your primary audience is children the show may be good as it is.

The original training video left me with my jaw dropped. This video left me with the thought: Why on earth wrap the show this way?
dougs510

Social climber
down south
Feb 14, 2012 - 12:24pm PT
I love this forum..... I have to admit, that since the old days, things have gotten more "Civilized". BITD, this would surely have broken into a mighty fire storm (e.g. TW#T, Pappy, Dirt, Dr. Kodos....) Yikes, the memories give me the willies!

BTW, I can hardly watch that girl do that handstand stuff.... my poor old body would surely break into... I stopped half way through it, cringing. Seriously.
tatasmovik

climber
Feb 14, 2012 - 12:28pm PT
Marlow, thank you for your input. I know our show is like a picture without a frame, but we are working on it.

The video was actually taken at a local building that we rented here. Everything you see on there is our own setup and arrangement. That venue only provided chairs... It was no good. After that, we did a show at a theater in Chicago, but I only have a few acts uploaded from there... Here's one of the contortion act my sister and I do:

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Feb 14, 2012 - 12:56pm PT
You're fantastic.

I hope that some day in the future you will be able to step into a taxi and when the driver asks: "Where should I take you?", you will with humility and precision be able to answer : "Take us anywhere, everybody want to meet us". You're that good.

Take care of your health.
tatasmovik

climber
Feb 14, 2012 - 12:59pm PT
Thank you so much!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 14, 2012 - 01:32pm PT
What part of Florida?
(Is it that carnie town?)

As a sailor/ SCUBA diver/ swamper I really like Florida for about 8-9 months a year.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 14, 2012 - 01:47pm PT
ЗАМЕЧАТЕЛЬНО!!!!!!!! Когда наносите визит братях в Глендале? :-)

Is training kitties that much harder than herding them?
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Feb 14, 2012 - 01:53pm PT
Listen to Tami's quibble Tatasmovik. As I said I'm an ignorant observer in this case and Tami knows what she's talking about. Though I'm still of the same opinion. I see a diamond dressed as granite.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Feb 14, 2012 - 02:54pm PT
For those of you who might really want to marry a Russian woman :-)

http://www.rosebrides.com


Russian woman are beautiful, very well educated, usually can also speak and write English, they are multi-lingual, have a World view, and have very strong values concerning marriage and family, and usually don't have an issue with a younger bride marrying an older husband. That seems to be a good way to go. Many countries outside the US that is very much the norm. The woman gets a more mature and established husband usually, and the man gets a youthful, beautiful wife that wants to have a family.

Could be very good. ;-))
pyrosis

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Feb 14, 2012 - 07:08pm PT
The manna to handstand in the first vid.... Mind blowing!
eagle

Trad climber
new paltz, ny
Feb 14, 2012 - 07:22pm PT
is she single?
tatasmovik

climber
Feb 14, 2012 - 11:08pm PT
Thank you, Tami. I agree with both you and Marlow. Our show does need some arrangement, but not necessarly like that of Cirque du Soleil. It's just that we've always been more on the traditional side of circus. We've mainly been centering on the skills part. But in the circus it has to be everything --choreography, music, arrangement, etc.

I didn't know Gregory Popovich has his own book. I haven't seen him since 2005... He does a really nice job with the pets.

Rokjox -That's pretty impressive. Lighting really does play a big role in the show and makes the whole thing look totally different when all is set right. When we work in theaters, I always have trouble having the lights set right for my rola bola act. I'm either always blinded by the front lights, or can't see anything from the darkness in front of me...

What part of Florida?
(Is it that carnie town?)

As a sailor/ SCUBA diver/ swamper I really like Florida for about 8-9 months a year.
We live in Winter Haven (where they built the new Legoland). It's between Orlando and Tampa.

I think what you do really cool. I love being on a ship/boat, but I'm just usually there to fish.

ЗАМЕЧАТЕЛЬНО!!!!!!!! Когда наносите визит братях в Глендале? :-)

Is training kitties that much harder than herding them?
Спасибо!! Пока что не знаю. Последний раз мы там выступали в конце 2003-го (под Новый Год), в Civic Auditorium...
It is harder to train cats, because they are kind of stubborn and not in the mood at times, but my mom gets them to perform for food.

is she single?
Haha, no. She's been married for about a year now.

The manna to handstand in the first vid.... Mind blowing!
Yeah, my dad used to be a gymnast and a coach; he taught her well. He's actually the one who invented this trick, where she does the manna with her shoulders twisting all the way around. They used to do an acrobatic duo with my dad and at first she was doing that trick on his hands.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Feb 14, 2012 - 11:11pm PT
What are the hand pad swivels made from?

It looks almost like a standard 4" electrical junction box.
tatasmovik

climber
Feb 14, 2012 - 11:14pm PT
The base is made of stainless steel. The blocks are made of wood and have free-spinning swivels built into them.

It's not made out of any particular equipment. It was all custom made.
Kurt Ettinger

Trad climber
Martinez, CA
Feb 15, 2012 - 12:32am PT
Fantastic!
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Feb 15, 2012 - 02:18am PT
I'm not sure what Simon intended but this has turned out to be a rather cool and interesting thread. I wish I had more to contribute than that.
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2012 - 02:45am PT
Not really acrobatics but plenty of showmanship here. I had never heard of this guy before tonight.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Tahoe climber

climber
Davis these days
Feb 15, 2012 - 11:21am PT
Wow cool thread!
Lots of the "love of climbing" is actually a love of experimenting with how far and beautiful you can make the human body be and go - definitely a legit connection with gymnastics and circus style performances
Inspiring

thanks
tc
tatasmovik

climber
Feb 15, 2012 - 11:27am PT
At training tonight I explained the manna-to-handstand to some of the kids and then spotted one of the more flexible ones ( not strong enough to hold manna ) to do manna and then got hold of her little feet and asked her NOT to move her arms and moved her to handstand. Hahahah!!! Of course she wasn't able to do the dislocate.

I do know one woman who can - Anna Ward is her name - she's been with Cirque Eloize's performance of Rain. She has that kind of shoulder flexibility but probably doesn't have the strength to do the move. :-)None of the kids I teach do !!! It is supremely difficult. Wow !!!!!

Not sure when Popovich's book came out but it's VERY good, easy & quick to read and he sure loves his cats. Yey for families and pets.

Tatasmovik, you live in a very special family. I mean, we all do...for sure....but generational circus families are not common at all here in North America. My background is in gymnastics & climbing. I am not a circus performer but someone who teaches the skills & I learned choreography as an adult. My kids are not pursuing circus as anything but fun.......certainly not as a vocation.

Cheers to you!!!!!
Haha, that's awesome!
I actually remember the shoulder dislocation being just a stretching exercise in gymnastics, just like the splits only it's the shoulders. Even I used to do it. I'd grab my two fingers and twist my shoulders back and forth. But I stopped doing that for some reason (I just didn't need it anymore) and it's just like the splits --if you stop doing it, you loose the flexibility.

Thanks! Cheers to you too and good luck with the kids!
tatasmovik

climber
Feb 15, 2012 - 11:33am PT
Ihateplastic, thanks for posting that video. This is awesome! Probably the best eccentric trampoline act I remember seeing.

Here's another old act worthy of attention --my grandpa and his brother:

[Click to View YouTube Video]
WBraun

climber
Feb 15, 2012 - 12:18pm PT
tatasmovik

You and your whole family is "Bad to the Bone"

Awesome .....
MH2

climber
Feb 15, 2012 - 12:18pm PT

A few reasons I like this thread:

Initial incredible video of masterful hand balancing set in unusual location

Sister of the performer entering the discussion

Tami adding her know-how and attitude

Griswold video


and a small coincidental connection, one of the few remaining books on my Mom's bookshelf, which I only learned of last week:








It is wonderful to find interesting and entertaining stuff you weren't looking for.

http://www.circopedia.org/index.php/Vladimir_Durov

I also looked by act under Hand Balancers and found a woman who would balance on one finger. This was oddly titled as an "Equilibristic Act", but maybe that comes from the same place as calling the Griswold act "eccentric."
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Feb 15, 2012 - 12:51pm PT
Somebody needs to buy Tatasmovik a harness and introduce her to the amazing movements that climbing involves.

Let's go climbing, I bet you and your family would love it.

Great video too, it must be super proud to be a member of your family.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Feb 15, 2012 - 02:28pm PT
This has turned into a great thread! Thank you tatasmovik for being part of this.

I hope its okay with you for posting this video which shows you and your sister at an early age. Let me know if its not. Very cute, and also amazing how much strength, balance and flexibility you both have. (From Norwegian tv - wow!)

I also saw a clip of your grandfather performing at 65 yo, doing some very high balancing. I'm sure your family has some fascinating stories, with the generations involved and all the places you've travelled and performed.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Feb 15, 2012 - 02:48pm PT
About the video kunlun_shan posted:
Stunning. And promising acting too. :o) I'm glad your health is good.
Hilt

Social climber
Utah
Feb 15, 2012 - 02:52pm PT
Holly shiest that was incredible!
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 15, 2012 - 03:18pm PT
Could you imagine those kids doing the Narrows? What, 7-10 seconds and it would be all over!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 15, 2012 - 03:30pm PT
^^^ ...and how grumpy would you be having to listen to them giggling the whole way?
tatasmovik

climber
Feb 15, 2012 - 06:26pm PT
Thank you, guys.

MH2 -How ironic! "Durov's Corner". They still continue working with their elephants. Speaking of elephants, here's a really nice act
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This is from the Moscow Festival my sister went to last October (they both took gold)...
Oh and Tami is right. Where I come from, "equilibrium" ("ekvilibr" in Russian) is how we actually call the hand balancing act in the circus.

Rokjox, I completely agree with you about the lights. Cirque du Soleil's gear is incredible. Thier circus here in Orlando, alone, has the floors going up and down, buildings "growing" out of the stage; not to mention their lights. They have a professional for every aspect of ther show --lights, music composition, choreography, technicians, etc. It's what makes their shows amazing in my view and even more in that sense rather than act-wise (I'm a bit hard to impress in that area).
We've performed at a lot of teathers and usually the lights there are pretty good at those venues. They do program them, but the technician is still there to press the "On" button, haha, and of course make sure that all goes right.

Brandon, I'd love to try. I'm not a guy, though, haha! But honestly, I'm not nearly as strong as my sister. My hands are only good for a little bit of juggling.

kunlun_shan, no problem at all! On this video we're actually in Cremona, Italy. It was a talent competition called "Bravo Bravissimo". They hosted it in several countries, including Bulgaria, Spain, Portugal, Denmark, Sweden, Norway (where the video was taken from), and of course Italy. I had just turned 8 back then and my sister was 10 years old. It was a lot of fun there! But just like most competitions, it wasn't fair. They didn't even give the grand, cash prize to anyone... There were so many talented kids who didn't even get in the final. But we were the only circus act there, so I guess they let us through for the sake of diversity.
And yes sir, we've got a few stories to tell in our occupation. I, alone, have been performing for over 20 years now.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 15, 2012 - 06:40pm PT
We gotta bring tatas out to the next Colorado SushiFest.
tatasmovik

climber
Feb 15, 2012 - 06:46pm PT
I love sushi :D
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Feb 15, 2012 - 07:34pm PT
And now for the cruel side of the circus...
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Feb 16, 2012 - 07:19pm PT
very artistic!beautiful.
tatasmovik

climber
Feb 16, 2012 - 09:44pm PT
I don't understand the difference between training a house pet versus a wild animal which has been raised by humans since it was a baby. What most "activists" don't understand is that the ways of disciplining an animal is just as diverse as the ways parents discipline their children. I don't deny that animals have been punished for not doing their job right, some trainers find it as the only way to teach them something, some are plain cruel, but that's not always the case. I know many wild-animal trainers who train their animals with love and food treats (like my mom does). Another thing I'd like to point out is that most wild animals actually live longer in the circus, because they are taken care of. In the wild they have to hunt, sometimes become pray; in the circus, they are washed, brushed, sheltered, vaccinated, and well fed.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Jan 28, 2014 - 04:07pm PT
How's Tatasmovik doing?
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Feb 18, 2014 - 03:23pm PT
... mhh?? ...
Magic Ed

Trad climber
Nuevo Leon, Mexico
Feb 18, 2014 - 03:54pm PT
Very impressive but has nothing to do with being Russian. I've seen tiny Chinese girls doing those stunts.
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Feb 19, 2014 - 07:16pm PT
My arm hurts watching that
Blakey

Trad climber
Sierra Vista
Sep 18, 2014 - 05:16am PT
I missed this when it first came up - very, very cool topic with great inputs.

Steve
jstan

climber
Sep 18, 2014 - 11:16am PT
When removed a substantial distance from a performance like this, what we perceive is even more two dimensional than as we see it on a computer screen. The brain reconstructs. A performance in full 3D at small distance has to allow a fuller comprehension of what has been achieved.This is the kind of privilege that used to be enjoyed by the likes of Louis XVI. And here it is on ST.

Braunini

Big Wall climber
cupertino
Sep 18, 2014 - 11:36am PT
Nice incoherent moral outrage double post to a 2 year old thread tioga

ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Dec 21, 2015 - 10:14pm PT
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 21, 2015 - 10:59pm PT
I missed this thread the first time around. A pity, as I actually saw a man perform such a routine as an exhibition, and I found it breath-taking.

While I think the original comment on the issue was not meant respectfully, I also agree that it would be far better with less clothing......however, I mean that in the way that most of the muscle definition and flex is lost in the practice clothing.

I also mean it in the way that the original Olympics were performed nude. Not for prurient interest, but for worship of the perfection of the human body in action.

This type of performance is the result of many years of daily effort, and I'm in awe.
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Jan 19, 2017 - 12:39am PT
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Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Jan 19, 2017 - 07:33am PT
These folks are mind-bending. I wonder if they end up doing damage to joints long term? I have a friend who was very into yoga and crazy flexible--too flexible--and ended up with some pretty serious back issues. Amazing stuff.

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ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Feb 26, 2017 - 07:53pm PT
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/53fba166e4b097b8f588faad/t/540cea0ce4b0c6cf505008ed/1410039288557/?format=1500w
Thread kind of racist/ sexist, but pretty tame by supertopo standards.
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Feb 26, 2017 - 08:19pm PT
I can't wait for the Donald to tell us his story about marrying a Russian bride . . . c'mon big guy post up!
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Feb 26, 2017 - 08:48pm PT
I rode the subway up to the Bronx this winter. Suddenly a black guy jumps up and starts yelling something about the hood. Someone cranked up a boombox and the next thing I see is this guy dancing on his hands in a moving subway. Then he did three flips in the aisle without touching the floor with his hands. It was amazing.
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Oct 12, 2017 - 10:39pm PT
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Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Oct 12, 2017 - 11:14pm PT
^^^^^ training for some sick off-width in the Gobi Desert?
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