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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 8, 2011 - 07:33pm PT
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A total eclipse of the Moon will be visible in the early morning skies of western Northern America. The action begins around 4:45 am Pacific Standard Time when the red shadow of Earth first falls across the lunar disk.
By 6:05 am Pacific Time, the Moon will be fully engulfed in red light. This event—the last total lunar eclipse until 2014—is visible from the Pacific side of North America, across the entire Pacific Ocean to Asia and Eastern Europe.
Not only will the Moon be beautifully red, it will also be inflated by the Moon illusion. For reasons not fully understood by astronomers or psychologists, low-hanging Moons look unnaturally large when they beam through trees, buildings and other foreground objects.
In fact, a low Moon is no wider than any other Moon (cameras prove it) but the human brain insists otherwise. To observers in the western USA, therefore, the eclipse will appear super-sized. Why the red color? Earth’s stratosphere is the key: “During a lunar eclipse, most of the light illuminating the moon passes through the stratosphere where it is reddened by scattering,” he explains. “If the stratosphere is loaded with dust from volcanic eruptions, the eclipse will be dark; a clear stratosphere, on the other hand, produces a brighter eclipse. At the moment, the stratosphere is mostly clear with little input from recent volcanoes.” -NASA
http://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/when-is-the-next-total-lunar-eclipse-for-north-america
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2011 - 07:53pm PT
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MH. As your official Non-canine Idaho news source: I can confidently predict the full eclipse for this Sat. morning 12/10.
Unfourtunately, as always, clouds will likely block the coastal BC view.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there, fritz, me too-- what day? can it be seen way off in michigan? i will check the link, too, :)
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fsck
climber
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Saturday morning, Dec. 10..
Partial eclipse begins: 12:46 Universal Time
Total eclipse begins: 14:06 UT
Greatest eclipse: 14:32 UT
Total eclipse ends: 14:57 UT
Partial eclipse ends: 16:18 UT
(from the earthsky.org site)
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2011 - 08:20pm PT
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Ok. Here is the official translation of Eclipse times into Mountain time zone:
Mountain Standard Time:
Partial eclipse begins: 5:46 a.m.
Total eclipse begins: 7:06 a.m.
Greatest eclipse: 7:32 a.m.
Total eclipse ends: 7:57 a.m.
Partial eclipse ends: 9:18 a.m.
Oh, and for those of you in "more civilized" parts of western North America.
Pacific Standard Time:
Partial eclipse begins: 4:46 a.m.
Total eclipse begins: 6:06 a.m.
Greatest eclipse: 6:32 a.m.
Total eclipse ends: 6:57 a.m.
Partial eclipse ends: 8:18 a.m.
Here's a link with specific time information and more trivia.
http://earthsky.org/tonight/lunar-eclipse-for-north-america-before-sunrise-december-10
Neebee: It is not going to be a "great eclipse" in Michigan. Here is information for Central Time zone.
Central Standard Time:
Partial eclipse begins: 6:46 a.m.
Total eclipse begins: 8:06 a.m.
Greatest eclipse: 8:32 a.m.
Total eclipse ends: 8:57 a.m.
Partial eclipse ends: 10:18 a.m.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Where are you bound?
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Just head for a high spot. That's my plan. I'm a morning guy, anyway.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, fritz... thanks for the info, none the less...
:)
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Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
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Nice effort to share this important information!
TFPU!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Remember, DO NOT look directly at the eclipse. You'll ruin your eyes.
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briham89
Trad climber
los gatos. ca
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Sweet, I'll be in Yosemite. It's gunna be cold!
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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I'll be in Josh with The Bird.....classic!
Peace
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2011 - 10:46pm PT
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del cross: Thank you for your question.
In San Francisco the moon sets at 7:19am. How low in the sky is it going to be be at 6:06am? Civil twilight is at 6:46am.
I've seen the moon red before. Is there any chance it will be some other color?
I would love to help you out on the correct time to watch the lunar-eclipse in the Bay area, as well as its exact color tone. I do realize that San Francisco is the center of the universe, and the only place anyone should care about.
However I am only an Idaho-based Posteur.
I do believe wolves will be lively & hungry just after the eclipse. We should be quite careful as to where we gather to watch this event in: Idaho, Montana, & Wyoming.
Best Wishes!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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at "totality" the moon will be at altitude of 7º above the horizon at Livermore, CA (37.65283 N, 121.77625 W)
that is about a half an hour before it sets...
to judge the height, that would be roughly the angle that the width of three of my fingers held at arms length above the horizon..
if you are planning on viewing it, make sure you have a clear view of the horizon
here is a chart for Livermore, CA of the Moon's altitude as a function of local time, note that the Moon sets at 7:15am locally
if you want one for your viewing area, just post your town and I'll make one for you (it isn't going to change much around the Bay Area...)
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briham89
Trad climber
los gatos. ca
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hey ed, do you think it will be high enough in the sky to see it in the valley? or am I going to have to take a cold morning hike up el cap?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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you'll be able to see parts of it from the Valley floor, but better would be to drive up 41 to the parking area beyond the Wawona tunnel above the Rostrum or hike out (carefully!) to the top of Elephant Rock...
the moon will be at a bearing of from 274º to 298º throughout that time, not a great bearing to shoot from the Valley floor, best would be on top of Half Dome or Glacier Point, but it's hard getting in that position this time of year....
also, take something that has a telephoto or a zoom... and shoot a lot in manual mode (if you can) playing with the aperture setting the exposure time to around 1/200 s a tripod or some steady support for your camera would be best... adjust the aperture to give you a sharp well illuminated image. For composition, get a view that includes the tree line, or some geographic feature (Devil's Dance Floor) at that bearing will make it more interesting...
good luck... I won't be in the Valley on Saturday so you all get the good shots and post up here!
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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For Bay area Eclipsophants, the forecast is for clear skies.
So about 4:00 AM tomorrow, find one of the many high points overlooking the Pacific.
Skyline Blvd just South of 92, Skyline just south of 84, Skyline just south of 9.
Marin headlands will probably be crowded. Ft Funston ditto. There's a great viewpoint at the top of the hill on Hwy 1 North of Muir Beach.
Skyline Drive in the Berkeley hills.
Plenty of good sites in Midpeninsula Regional Open Space along Skyline but the trails are closed at night.
There are a couple of good views on Alpine Rd about 2 miles West of Skyline.
Great high points all along Hwy 1 from Pacifica to Big Sur.
I'll bet it will be spectacular from the beaches as the moon comes out of the eclipse and then sets!!!
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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For The Valley, what about hiking up the EL Cap trail that leaves 120 just N of the Foresta road? It's all burned off so there won't be any trees in the way. It might have a better view to the West because the intervening ridges are lower and more distant.
Tioga Rd is open!
Top of Cathedral Pk? THAT would be a picture. Conness/Dana?
Even Mt Hoffman, an easy walk from the car.
Olmstead Pt doesn't "look" in the right direction.
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scuffy b
climber
dissected alluvial deposits, late Pleistocene
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You may think this is absurd, but I'm having problems with the geometry.
I've seen lunar eclipses before, but always involving a setting sun and
rising moon.
I know that I only need a view to the West, easy enough to come by, but I
keep thinking how hard it will be for me to get a good view of the sunrise.
And I really am good at spatial relations, I swear!!
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Sagebrusher
Sport climber
Iowa
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A full moon is always opposite the sun. It can happen anytime of the day. I, too, have never seen a lunar eclipse in the morning.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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A lunar eclipse happens when the Earth's shadow falls on the Moon so the Moon, Earth and Sun are all in line, that means that the Moon and the Sun are about 180º apart when viewed from the Earth.
A lunar eclipse only happens during a "full Moon"
A solar eclipse only happens during a "no Moon" when the Moon's shadow falls on the Earth.
An eclipse can happen any time of the day, with the visibility obviously limited to where you are on the Earth's surface when it happens.
Tomorrow morning, the Moon sets at 7:15am in the Bay Area at an azimuth of roughly 300º, or WNW. The total eclipse will happen when the Moon is at an altitude of 7º
To find how high in the sky that is, make a fist, extend your arm, put the bottom of your fist at the horizon (level) and count up three knuckles...
If you can see that from your perspective viewing position towards WNW you'll see the moon...
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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scuffy, did you forget the one during Hale Bop?
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ladyscarlett
Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
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why wouldn't they open Mt Diablo for this?
I hear other parks do it on a fairly consistent basis.
Its damn cold for a sick girl, but might be able to view it from my backyard...
Cheers!
LS
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Where are you bound?
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Open, closed....Details.
Go up to a high place & behold the Wonder. It's good stuff, that Wonder.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2011 - 08:20am PT
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I got up with "the working class."
Currently the moon is about 1/3 eclipsed and here in the Rockies-----it is colder than a ice-climbers toes.
Getting some photos and will take more.
Good luck to all you early risers!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Dec 10, 2011 - 08:29am PT
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Great view right out the window over the puter.
About half way there now and about 10 deg above the horizon so we'll get to see totality from here.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 10, 2011 - 08:49am PT
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Getting some shots it's like twenty in Moab....
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Dec 10, 2011 - 08:53am PT
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Looking cool as I wait for the coffee, a slight bit of haze is making it , well, hazy.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2011 - 08:54am PT
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Here's a couple. Damn! It's cold out there.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2011 - 09:18am PT
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Getting light out now.
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reddirt
climber
PNW
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Dec 10, 2011 - 09:24am PT
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keep 'em coming Fritz...
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The Alpine
Big Wall climber
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Dec 10, 2011 - 09:28am PT
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Awesome Fritz.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Dec 10, 2011 - 09:37am PT
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Nice shots Fritz! We have a bit of clouds coming in here so after a few teases, it a bust.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Dec 10, 2011 - 09:41am PT
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and cathenge too!!!!
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reddirt
climber
PNW
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Dec 10, 2011 - 09:46am PT
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wouldn't it be great if there was a gathering/sushifest for the next one, esp for those of us in the PNW who live below the clouds?.. perhaps a gathering in the SW or CA... or perhaps Rainier/Muir though the logistics would be a pain...
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2011 - 09:48am PT
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OK. It's down. It was getting so light out, that the moon all but vanished before it set.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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Dec 10, 2011 - 09:58am PT
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Rise up this morning,
Smile with the
Eclipsing Moon.
I woke up with my daddy,
and we watched the Moon Eclipse.
And then I tried on my Holiday dress
that I bought for Sophia's
birthday party December 10, 2011.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Dec 10, 2011 - 10:28am PT
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Good shot during totality, Fritz!
I was up at the crack of 06:15, and only 10-15% of the Moon was in shadow. As I brewed my coffee, I watched through my West atrium door; as totality occurred, it was only "one finger" above the crest of hills to my West, and it was below horizon before it began to emerge again. Very cool! Most of the recent eclipses have been obscured by clouds.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Dec 10, 2011 - 11:03am PT
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It clouded in overnight here, so no eclipse - although a ghost of a moon was visible through the clouds.
I saw Hale-Bopp and the lunar eclipse then - April 1997 - in Joshua Tree. Totally cosmic!
(Lunar eclipses on the west coast seem to be either in the evening or the morning, but not at midnight. Ed H has no doubt explained.)
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Dec 10, 2011 - 11:22am PT
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I saw Hale-Bopp and the lunar eclipse then - 1997 - in Joshua Tree. Totally cosmic!
Yeah that was quite a night. I was bivied halfway up the North East Rige of Lone Pine Peak with Larry Cote wathcing the comet which was spectacular. We were dissapointed as the moon rose which lit up the sky taking away the comet. Then the eclipse happenned which totally blew our minds. We were not aware it was on the schedule.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Dec 10, 2011 - 11:34am PT
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Fritz those shots are wonderful! TFPU.
Ksolem how cool was that for you guys.
An unexpected treat.
Serendipity.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Dec 10, 2011 - 11:48am PT
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Well, the lunar eclipse happened in western Canada also, and so team MH thought to take a hike late yesterday, and see what might be seen. There's probably at best a 10% chance of clear weather on a winter full moon night at Squamish, but it was worth a try.
(I forgot a tripod attachment, so my point and shoot wasn't really ideal.)
The pink fingers of sunset caress the sky.
The star of the show finally makes an appearance - he'd been eclipsed until then. A little south (right) of where expected, and a touch later.
MH2 will hopefully follow with better photos. He was idly threatening to photoshop the moon so that it was above Garibaldi, but perhaps not. We weren't able to stay until the morning's eclipse.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 10, 2011 - 11:54am PT
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I got up, grudgingly. It looked pretty cool but for LA's bad air and some
low thin clouds. It did glow reddish but my shots suck. Shoulda gone to the high desert.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2011 - 12:09pm PT
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DMT's story about being at the top of Washington Column for an eclipse & comet reminded me about the Eclipse fiasco a friend & I had after topping out on Leaning Tower in May 1975.
On the second day we ran out of water about 2 or 3 PM. I remember being very hot & thirsty for a long, long time. Gary finished the last lead in the dark and dozed on the summit, while I cleaned. I beat on the last pin, which seemed to be wedged at the tip for about 5 minutes, before figuring out by touch, that it was a bolt and hanger.
We needed water badly, and a full moon was just rising to give us light off the back-side. Of course we had not brought a flashlight on the climb, so we needed that full moon for a safe descent.
As we started down-climbing toward Bridal Veil Creek, the moon seemed to start dimming, then rapidly passed into shadow.
It was a full-eclipse of the moon! It was getting darker, not lighter.
We did down-climbing by Braille; pushed by our desperate thirst. As the backside of Leaning Tower steepened near its base: we tied both ropes together and used them as a hand-line to descend steeper slabs.
The ropes ended in the dark, touching the tops of some bushes. Gary then down-climbed free-solo, slipped off with a little yelp, and found terra-firma was only a three-foot drop away.
The muddy run-off waters of Bridal Veil Creek were extremely delicious.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Dec 10, 2011 - 12:21pm PT
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nice Fritz... hopefully others will report in too..
Livermore had high cloud cover and marine layer so the Moon disappeared for the purpose of photography sometime around 6:30am PST.
Here is the progress from 5:18 to 6:12 in 2 minute steps...
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2011 - 12:29pm PT
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Ed: I love that eclipse sequence photo. I was hoping you would chime in with some awesome photos.
Too bad that clouds spoiled the event for so many of the tribe.
Here's the last photo I took before the moon slipped away into daylight.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Dec 10, 2011 - 01:11pm PT
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Watched it this morning on my way to work. I feel like I have been living in a cave as I had not heard about the event so it was a complete surprise to me, I think that made it all the more special.
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F10
Trad climber
Bishop
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Dec 10, 2011 - 01:22pm PT
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It was a clear cold morning in Bishop
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2011 - 01:47pm PT
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Thanks for posting your luna shots!
F10! I love those eclipsed moon and mountain shots.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Dec 10, 2011 - 05:20pm PT
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A few more pre-eclipse photos:
Some friends parasailed from just below the first summit - here they're setting up.
In the air.
Evening lights of Squamish.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2011 - 07:41pm PT
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Thanks again to all those that "posted up" photos, stories, poems, & comments.
I took a bunch of photos last year of the Winter Solstice Full Lunar Eclipse, and got only a few decent ones. This year I reviewed camera settings and did a little better.
All done on a "fairly cheap" Canon A series camera, and a tripod-----gotta have a tripod for the time exposures.
Last year on the Winter Solstice, a local pack of coyotes added to the occasion with a great howling, yipping, and trilling chorus.
No background music this year. The wolves probably ate the coyotes.
Here's a couple earlier this morning photos I took through a plum tree, off our back porch. The moon looks like a strange lantern in the branches.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 10, 2011 - 08:08pm PT
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While I got skunked photo-wise it is good some of you didn't.
Neither did these guys:
Good Eclipse Pics
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Dec 10, 2011 - 09:35pm PT
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I stood in a parking lot this morning with ten other fx techs and watched the eclipse. It was a nice start to a long day.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Dec 10, 2011 - 09:45pm PT
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F10
whoa there!. Those are spectacular pics.
Had a 10 year old friend over last night. He went to bed at 9 and we got him up about 5:30. Made cups of hot chocolate and my wife, dog Oliver and young friend sat on a big boulder in the field to watch. Between us we saw 3 meteors besides the spectacular eclipse. We stayed out until the moon sank behind the nearby ridge about 6:45. I think that boy will remember it for a while. When I took him home, one of his sisters expressed regret she hadn't joined us. Next chance: 2014.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Dec 10, 2011 - 09:55pm PT
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hey there all, say.... wow, wonderful shots!!! ....
thanks for sharing...
say, fritz, i get a lot of those 'branches' type shots, too...
they work best for me, due to my camera... does not do good for moon shots, otherwise... i need something up close to get it all to show up....
also:
neat outdoors stuff, too, mightyhiker, of a great morning time fun-time among friends...
thanks you all...
:)
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Sagebrusher
Sport climber
Iowa
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Dec 10, 2011 - 11:40pm PT
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Pretty cool... several good falling stars as well which I found surprising for the city.
Probably part of the Geminid meteor shower, which are actually better than the more well-known Perseids.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geminids
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Dec 10, 2011 - 11:44pm PT
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What a grand and glorious universe we live in. Waking up each day is a treat. The night skies are the pumpkin pie with whipped cream. :D
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 10, 2011 - 11:56pm PT
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Dec 11, 2011 - 10:05am PT
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It rained in Japan so no visible eclipse although some people saw it further north in the mainland.
Great account of descending Washington's Column, Dingus. I did the standard route as my first long Valley climb with Chuck Ostin leading. We actually stumbled around at the top of the death slabs before finding the trail and I got so dehydrated, I was on the verge of hallucinating by the time we got down. I drank a gallon of water and several beers and didn't pee until the next day. Your account brought back lots of details I had forgotten and made them vivid again. Thanks!
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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UPDATE: The second of NASA’s two Gravity Recovery And Interior Laboratory (GRAIL) spacecraft has successfully completed its planned main engine burn and is now in lunar orbit.
Working together, GRAIL-A and GRAIL-B will study the moon as never before.
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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we need klimmer's input here. What's going on on the back side? That's what I want to know. :)
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