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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 1, 2011 - 03:11pm PT
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Read the following comment on SF Gate site:
There is so much death in Yosemite and the majority of it comes from sheer stupidity. The SAR team jokingly refers to some of the rescues they do as "I.N.S." missions- Interfering with Natural Selection
From:
Body found beneath Yosemite's Vernal Fall
What's the deal?
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MTucker
Ice climber
Arizona
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Totally true. If you look through the stories (printed or oral) there are plenty of YOSAR stunts. A few kept photos of dead bodies in a scrap book.
Wonder what Fish has to say on the subject?
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TFPU
Sport climber
Idaho
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I agree what's the deal? Who cares if they say that.
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CAMNOTCLIMB
Trad climber
novato ca
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Knott,
Mother Nature is harsh. Play by the rules and you may win.....or knott
Brian
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Menlo Park
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you're a real professional fattrad
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Maybe he was just ribbing them.
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Daphne
Trad climber
Mill Valley, CA
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it's called gallows humor and is a coping strategy for people who deal with death/crisis regularly.
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A5scott
Trad climber
Chicago
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i've read about the YOSAR climbers keeping bones from recoveries in their tents... not sure if it was true or tall tale, but i could believe it
scott
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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One time doing a recovery at Malibu Creek St. Park, I yelled at a BBQ'ng family if they wanted some ribs as I toted a young woman away. I have no doubt that retrieving dead bodies earns the right to vent what would otherwise be ghastly or ghoulish.
When you say "family" I infer with children.
That's way over the top, definitely an R rated comment.
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Prod
Trad climber
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One time doing a recovery at Malibu Creek St. Park, I yelled at a BBQ'ng family if they wanted some ribs as I toted a young woman away.
Haha, that reminds me of when I used to be a river guide in the Grand Canyon. In the morning when we'd be bring the sh#t can back to the boat none of the passengers would talk, they'd just watch to see where it was going. I'd always yell out "Who didn't chew their corn last night"
Prod.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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OK ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ that's funny!
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ELM !
climber
Near Boston
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Ditto...gallows humor. I've been a nurse for pushing 20 years. Some of the stuff I said back in the ER (and heard) has it's place keeping you sane. It's never mean or really directed at an individual but at a situation or too familiar occurance. For instance...I have cared for maybe 10-15 people who in attempting suicide by rifle have relented only to shoot themselves in the shoulder. You can see how the inability to aim jokes flow(and many others)...but they do because of the despiration of the situation. When you are close to these situations you have to vent, if you don't it'll eat you alive.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Social climber
Retired to Appalachia
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I yelled at a BBQ'ng family if they wanted some ribs as I toted a young woman away.
The evil one
Damn! You are evil!
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!
I have a nurse friend who used to work in emerge.
She had a little acronym that she would occasionally print in the bottom of the form she passed on to the doctor:
"TSTL" [Too Stupid To Live]
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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I yelled at a BBQ'ng family if they wanted some ribs as I toted a young woman away.
no yosar member has surpassed your level of assholiness..
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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NFR.....not fit for reproduction.
Peace
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Degaine
climber
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Daphne wrote:
it's called gallows humor and is a coping strategy for people who deal with death/crisis regularly.
Do you know of a good coping strategy for having to read fattrad’s asinine posts regularly?
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WBraun
climber
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If recovery people can't handle the stuff they are going to encounter in the field they should not be on that mission.
Stay home ....
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luggi
Trad climber
from the backseat of Jake& Elwood Blues car
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Knott..I have a bitch with title of your post. You make it sound like it was taken directly from a Yosar rescuer thus, misleading people into thinking it might be true. It might be dialog between rescue worker...yes it happens and if it was it should have stayed there. After a few bodies you use "black humor" to cope. The situations you deal with on a regular basis is difficult, dealing with family members, and so on. Not to mention your own mortality. There are times I felt I could not get my hands clean enough from the "stuff" they were in. Sometimes the smell death stays with you for so long you think it is you. So improper humor dehumanizes the situation somewhat and keeps things at arms length.. and to remind yourself....it is just a job.
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YoungGun
climber
North
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@froodish: AWESOME, thanks!! I'm definitely going to use that. Although, I have to say... I'm no republican, but fatty is hardly the worst offender on here in terms of rude/insane/OT posts.
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P.Rob
Social climber
Pacomia, Ca - Y Que?
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“I yelled at a family at a BBQ’ing family…” mmmh this smells of bovine excrement to me.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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bovine excrement didn't you mean porcine?
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Doesn't really matter what someone in Yosar says or comments, its what they do that is important.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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I heard one of them YOSAR guys kept a human eye and 3 fingernails in YooHoo sippy box under his bed for a decade and then sold it on Ebay for 6K. Weird set of guys.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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wow
I don't think anyone's demeaning YOSAR or any of it's past/present/future members.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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and Russ makes a fool out of me!
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P.Rob
Social climber
Pacomia, Ca - Y Que?
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"Doesn't really matter what someone in Yosar says or comments, its what they do that is important. Thank goodness for them and their efforts. Maybe we should try to keep the demaning(sic) posts related to Yosar to a minimum"
No Sir- If we are tasked in dealing with end of life situations - in the field or in an Acute Care setting - what we do and how we carry it out always requires professionalism and the two should not be separated. Mr. Braun has it exactly right
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Thus why SAR has radio protocols, and either has personnel designated to liaise with family members and press or defers those duries to law-enforcement. The sh#t that happens or is said in the field isn't for public consumption.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Tami
It's a bit early to be swigging from that whiskey bottle. Even for a Canadian winter Friday.
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Cragman- we don't think you are nuts, not for that anyway.
Time heals all wounds, in this case, some friends and I had a good sick laugh about something similar recently. Every situation is unique.
The trick is to keep the nasty humor in house and never yell something truly tasteless at a family having a BBQ. You never know when the victim's family is around, and in this day and age of instant internet publication, you don't know where your words will end up.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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I.N.S. Mission. Damn that is funny.
Whew Cragman that is an appetite buster.
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
In the mountains... somewhere...
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Not PC at all....
Mmmmmmm, Japcycles!
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BooDawg
Social climber
Butterfly Town
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XLNT examples, Cragman, of psychological coping mechanisms. Got any more good ones?
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Hilt
Social climber
Utah
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What people say working in the operation room, ER, or during a rescue should not be repeated.
In fact I really deeply don't want to know what comments were said about me when I was prepped for surgery. Damn, it's hard watching things go south, getting old...
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
bouldering
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Weekend at Bernie's ... dumb comedy about two slackers parading a dead body around while they live it up in the Hamptons
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