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Guck

Trad climber
Santa Barbara, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 28, 2011 - 05:01pm PT
Years ago, I experienced one of the most terrifying alpine moments; using the outhouse next to the hut on Abbot Pass. At that time, it was made of a few planks hanging over a 1000' headwall. The whole thing was anchored by rusty cables, and any desire to relieve yourself was quickly killed by the frigid wind and the terror of squatting over the hole in the floor. Unfortunately, we did not have any camera to document the saga. Is there anyone out there with a picture of the old outhouse at the pass?

PS Apparently, some climbers occasionally managed to complete their task and the mess below prompted the Canadians to install a chemical toilet at the same spot.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Oct 28, 2011 - 05:06pm PT
The famed "Tumbling Turds Couloir"
Timmc

climber
BC
Oct 28, 2011 - 05:14pm PT
Amazing place and very cool hut.
I think it is the second highest hut in Canada after the Neil Colgan hut near Mt
Fay.

Yes, they fixed the crapper.

Tami has the classic Alpine Club poster of the rats changing the honey bucket up there.
Credit: Timmc
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Oct 28, 2011 - 05:30pm PT
Better still for Albertans was that the potty sat on the Great Divide and you pooed into BC...............
:-)


My cartoons on the door are indeed about changing the honey buckets. :-D
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Oct 28, 2011 - 06:39pm PT
Are huts worth it?

Could the Sierra do with more huts?

Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Oct 28, 2011 - 08:00pm PT
I do have fond memories of the Abbot Pass hut from about 1975. Apparently I purged my mind of any memory of the Outhouse. I'll have to look in the "wayback slides" for a photo.

Wasn't the outhouse at the Cooper Hut on Mt. Fay another: "plummeting poop outhouse?"
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 28, 2011 - 09:11pm PT
It is allegedly the North American outhouse with the most scenic view. Whether that gets you going, or stopped, may be another matter.

ps Abbott or Abbot?
apogee

climber
Oct 28, 2011 - 09:46pm PT
"Are huts worth it?

Could the Sierra do with more huts?"

Great question...worthy of it's own thread. Why don't you start one?
Guck

Trad climber
Santa Barbara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2011 - 09:57pm PT
Timmc; The picture is a great shot of the hut, but has the modern outhouse, not the terrorizing contraption that was there. The weather on the picture is a true rendition of reality. We climbed Mt. Lefroy (1973?) and were in the clouds most of the time, with a severe snow storm on the way to the hut (from Lake Louise). Great memories!! Thanks for the photo.
Timmc

climber
BC
Oct 29, 2011 - 12:32am PT
You're right Guck, that photo was taken 2 years ago.

I realize that's not what you were requesting but figured it could still add the thread. Would love to see a photo of the 'continental divide outhouse'.
Guck

Trad climber
Santa Barbara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2011 - 12:31pm PT
Fritz, you are my last hope. However, I would understand if you refused to revive some difficult moments that have safely faded in your memory.
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Oct 29, 2011 - 01:10pm PT
Someone has posted photos in the past, I just don't remember who. If we keep this up front a little longer, maybe they will see this thread and repost. They were great shots.

They were posted on some thread about great places to take a dump, or something like that.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 29, 2011 - 01:17pm PT
I remember the Forester Hut's "facilities" up on the Mt. Robson ridge, in 1984 or so, two 4'x8' pieces of plywood, one placed vertically for modesty, the other horizontal, with a large hole cut out in the middle... rising from underneath and breaking the plane of the horizontal board was an icy cone of "mixed-waste," a conglomeration of human excrement, toilet tissue and urine... with a wonderful view.

Somehow I did not take a picture of the scene...

Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Oct 29, 2011 - 01:52pm PT
Guck: I looked, but only have these 2 photos of the hut on an August day in the mid-70's.

We climbed the "Tourist Route" on Mt. Victoria the next morning.

It was "very interesting" in those conditions.
Credit: Fritz
Credit: Fritz
AP

Trad climber
Calgary
Oct 29, 2011 - 02:37pm PT
The Graham Cooper hut at the top of the 3 3/12 couloir in the Valley of the Ten Peaks was another good one. A small metal box at the top of a cliff. We moseyed up the coulour at 2:00 Am, climbed a little rock wall, then did a mantle to arrive at the back end of the hut. The outhouse was at the end of a skinny ledge and you would look through the hole right down at Moraine Lake. The hut was named for a climber killed during the construction. It was decommisioned after the Neil Colgan hut was erected.
Guck

Trad climber
Santa Barbara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2011 - 09:02pm PT
Fritz, thanks for the great pictures. The hut was such a refuge when we got there! One of us had fallen in a crevasse on the way up from Lake Louise, and we were all exhausted. The weather was horrible, and we were young so we charged up Lefroy the next morning.
Ed, if you took a picture down the hole, you would see nothing but air! That is why I am certain the ones who used the facility have vivid recollections of it 35 years later. It was like if you stepped on a portaledge made of three old planks and two rusty wires half way up the Nose.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Oct 30, 2011 - 12:46am PT
Guck.

Sorry about not remembering the "shitter."



We were looking for an alternative to climbing in the Bugaboos. They were covered in an inches-deep layer of ice from a freezing-rain event.




We figured the snow climbs on high mtns. in the Rockies would be "sloggable."

The "Tourist Route"

on Victoria --------damn near killed me!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 30, 2011 - 01:03am PT
here's the Robson's Ralph Forster Hut

Lawrence and Mike having an after dinner conversation
Guck

Trad climber
Santa Barbara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2011 - 01:04am PT
Fritz; The contraption was behind (Victoria side) and slightly above the hut, a few feet from where the new facility is (see Timmc's picture above). It was hanging over the BC side of the pass. It was essentially a box with a door and a hole in the middle of the floor. Unforgettable! Unfortunately, it is right behind the hut in your pictures. What a wonderful place.
Ferretlegger

Trad climber
san Jose, CA
Oct 30, 2011 - 09:37am PT
Ha! I remember that crapper (and hut) well! Old Guck and I, along with two girlfriends, had a near-death epic on the approach to the hut. I nearly died of hypothermia (literally), after we were caught in a storm on the way up the Plain of 6 Glaciers in cotton T shirts. Somehow we made it to the hut, and after eating and drinking tea for 12 hours, we did the West Face of LeFroy in the same blizzard, and then had to downclimb the route because we couldn't find the descent.

That crapper was epic- you really needed a belay. It was impossible to be constipated- the view out the hole was very conducive to getting your business done, and the snowy blasts on your ass only added to the urgency.

Fine memories, Phil!!!

Michael
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