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The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 2, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
You two clowns HEGEHOG AND CRAIGFRY/DRF are so wound up in your political lib ideology bullshet that neither can see you been "lit up" for what you truly stand for & who you really are.






And now ?

Now? Maybe 10% of what I was in them days. Trust me.

The U.S. Tax Payers/Gov't/DOD got their moneys worth outta me for them 24.6 years.
dirtbag

climber
Sep 2, 2013 - 09:23pm PT
You can tell when the local dwarf tossing matches are finished for the night because Chief starts posting again.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 2, 2013 - 09:25pm PT
Hey there's the other loser......... SLINKYTITTYBAG.
jghedge

climber
Sep 2, 2013 - 09:26pm PT

Hahahahaha, give it up, little fool.


2 out of every 5 people in CA are illegals. You post something like that, and you wonder why people think you're on drugs?


Look, son - even the right-wingers who have their facts reasonably together get put down hard on this thread.

Some blithering wingnut like you, who stumbles in here trying to claim that 2 out of 5 people in CA are illegal? OF COURSE you're going to get laughed into the dirt. OF COURSE your pathetic little foray into Wingnut Fantasy World is going to earn you the scorn and ridicule even your fellow wingnuts agree you deserve, for posting something so idiotic.

And OF COURSE you're too ashamed to cite your source - because it's some embarrassing whack-job wingnut conspiracy site that's even more ludicrous than the claim that you're failing to back up in the first place.

Lesson for the day: CHECK YOUR FACTS - DON'T BEG US TO CHECK THEM FOR YOU WHEN YOU MAKE A COMPLETE IDIOT OF YOURSELF.
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Sep 2, 2013 - 09:27pm PT
. $52,000,000,000 The cost of educating the children of illegals. This is by far the single largest cost to the American taxpayer.

52 billion to educate Jose ?

You sure about that ?


It looks like the entire federal education budget is only 56 billion .
"For 2006, the ED discretionary budget was $56 billion and the mandatory budget contained $23.4 billion. As of 2011, the discretionary budget is $69.9 billion.[18]" ( wiki, 2013)

Is this the same site your getting your climate change science rom chief ?

Cheif you know what the greatest sin is to God?
Pride and arrogance ..
It turns your head into a rock ..
Nothing can get in ...







The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 2, 2013 - 09:29pm PT
HEGHOG
Lesson for the day: CHECK YOUR FACTS -

Keep posting HEGHOG. Nothing cited to prove me wrong.

Just your insistent personal attacking NEO MARXIST bullshet.

dirtbag

climber
Sep 2, 2013 - 09:31pm PT
Maybe you should wear a helmet when you hit those pins?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 2, 2013 - 09:35pm PT
Education for the children of illegal aliens constitutes the single largest cost to taxpayers, at an annual price tag of nearly $52 billion. Nearly all of those costs are absorbed by state and local governments.
http://www.fairus.org/issues/publications/state-cost-studies
http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-u-s-taxpayers

The newspaper reported that demographers with the state Department of Finance earlier this year projected that the Hispanic and non-Hispanic white populations will even out by mid-2013.

“Early in 2014, the Hispanic population will become the plurality in California for the first time since California became a state,” the demographers wrote.

The report attributes the growth to immigration and high birth rates in the Hispanic community.
http://www.ppic.org/main/publication_show.asp?i=818

With that said, the The 14th Amendment to the Constitution stipulates that those children born here of undocumented parents automatically become U.S. citizens.

Technically, they are still here ILLEGALLY. Add em up HEGHOG. Add em up.
jghedge

climber
Sep 2, 2013 - 09:44pm PT


2 out of every 5 people in CA are illegals. 16 million.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


And the blithering idiot thinks this needs to be disproved!!!

What kind of pathetic, drug-addled lunatic would keep insisting on this?


I mean, what is it with this desperate need wingnuts have to publicly humiliate themselves?



The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Sep 2, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
Maybe he's including extraterrestrials in that figure
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Sep 2, 2013 - 10:00pm PT
Hedge put down the bong and step away. Ur obliviously paranoid
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 2, 2013 - 10:02pm PT
A true blind eye or is it just plain ignorance of the law by you LIBS and reality of how those out there use it to their advantage.

All them newborns of the Undocumented are bought and paid for by the Citizens and tax payers of CA and the United States.

That played a major role in the deficit you all are paying for here in CA.
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-children-of-illegal-aliens-anchor-babies-have-bankrupted-the-state-of-california

The BIG PICTURE. Gotta look at the BIG PICTURE.


NOT what you think that picture might be.


YES, 38%. That number is probably on the low side "IF" an accurate count could ever be made that includes ALL the "ANCHOR BABY's".
dirtbag

climber
Sep 2, 2013 - 10:04pm PT
It's fun watching Chief make a complete ass of himself.

Please continue Chief.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 2, 2013 - 10:10pm PT
^^^^^^^^^BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... The Taco Midge.... BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ^^^^^^^

Here's another staggering statistic regarding the ILLEGALS in CA:

You pay nearly $1B a year to house illegal immigrant prisoners
http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/investigations/122630554.html



YUP.... 38%.

Illegal, but Not Undocumented
Identity Theft, Document Fraud, and Illegal Employment




This Backgrounder examines illegal immigration-related document fraud and identity theft that is committed primarily for the purpose of employment. It debunks three common misconceptions: illegal aliens are “undocumented;” the transgressions committed by illegal aliens to obtain jobs are minor; and illegal-alien document fraud and identity theft are victimless crimes. It discusses how some community leaders rationalize these crimes, contributing to a deterioration of the respect for laws in our nation, and presents a variety of remedies, including more widespread electronic verification of work status (E-Verify and the Social Security Number Verification Service) and immigrant outreach programs to explain the ramifications and risks of document fraud and identity theft.

The findings include:

Illegal immigrants are not “undocumented.” They have fraudulent documents such as counterfeit Social Security cards, forged drivers licenses, fake “green cards,” and phony birth certificates. Experts suggest that approximately 75 percent of working-age illegal aliens use fraudulent Social Security cards to obtain employment.

Most (98 percent) Social Security number (SSN) thieves use their own names with stolen numbers. The federal E-Verify program, now mandated in only 14 states, can detect this fraud. Universal, mandatory use of E-Verify would curb this and stop virtually 100 percent of child identity theft.

Illegal immigration and high levels of identity theft go hand-in-hand. States with the most illegal immigration also have high levels of job-related identity theft. In Arizona, 33 percent or all identity theft is job-related (as opposed to identity theft motivated simply by profit). In Texas it is 27 percent; in New Mexico, 23 percent; in Colorado, 22 percent; California, 20 percent; and in Nevada, 16 percent. Eight of the 10 states with the highest percentage of illegal aliens in their total population are among the top 10 states in identity theft (Arizona, California, Florida, Texas, Nevada, New York, Georgia, and Colorado).

Children are prime targets. In Arizona, it is estimated that over one million children are victims of identity theft. In Utah, 1,626 companies were found to be paying wages to the SSNs of children on public assistance under the age of 13. These individuals suffer very real and very serious consequences in their lives.

Illegal aliens commit felonies in order to get jobs. Illegal aliens who use fraudulent documents, perjure themselves on I-9 forms, and commit identity theft in order to get jobs are committing serious offenses and are not “law abiding.”

Illegally employed aliens send billions of dollars annually to their home countries, rather than spending it in the United States and helping stimulate the American economy. In October 2008 alone, $2.4 billion was transferred to Mexico.

Tolerance of corruption erodes the rule of law. Corruption is a serious problem in most illegal aliens’ home countries. Allowing it to flourish here paves the way for additional criminal activity and increased corruption throughout society.

Leaders support perpetrators and ignore victims. Political, civic, religious, business, education, and media leaders blame Americans for “forcing” illegal aliens to commit document fraud and identity theft. No similar concern is expressed for the American men, women, and children whose lives are destroyed in the process.

The Social Security Administration and Internal Revenue Service facilitate illegal immigrant-driven identity theft. Both turn a blind eye to massive SSN fraud and take no action to stop it. The Social Security Administration assigns SSNs to new-born infants that are being used illegally. The IRS demands that victims pay taxes on wages earned by illegal aliens using their stolen SSNs, while taking no action to stop the identity theft.

State and local governments need to adopt tougher laws to supplement federal efforts. The Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is targeting large document fraud rings and the most egregious employers, but their resources are limited and stretched across multiple priorities. In 2007, identity theft cases represented only 7 percent of the total ICE case load.

Employers must do their part. They can ensure that they have a legal workforce by using a combination of the federal government’s E-Verify and Social Security Number Verification Service systems and by signing up for the federal government’s IMAGE program or privately conducted audits.
jghedge

climber
Sep 2, 2013 - 10:15pm PT
"Technically, they are still here ILLEGALLY. Add em up HEGHOG. Add em up."


That's it? Really? 38% of CA's population is here illegally because...they're Hispanic?

Hahahahahaha - no wonder your idiotic ideology has no place in CA, no place in politics...and certainly no place in the thinking of an adult, little child.


Like I said - you got a lotta growing up to do there, son. Must be weird, being a 7 year-old in a man's body.

And an appallingly stupid 7 year-old at that.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Sep 2, 2013 - 10:27pm PT
That's it? Really? 38% of CA's population is here illegally because...they're Hispanic?

READ HEGHOG, READ:

Newborns of Illegal Hispanic Parents and ID falsified SSN's etc that distort the real stats between "Documented and Undocumented".

Add those two up and the reality of the true Illegal Undocumented population sky rockets.

Hell, any well tenured ICE LEO/OFFICIAL can tell you that is fact. Ask one next time you see em.

If you dare to seek the truth that is.



BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Sep 2, 2013 - 10:27pm PT
^^^^ So True!
I'd even point a finger toward them in the whole bursting of the bubble in the home building industry. Sure it was the big wig bankers pushing the contractors to hire the cheap work for cash entrepreneurs. ( with most of that monies leaving the states). And in that decade or two of the most money ever to change hands the world has ever seen. Meanwhile tax paying citizens had to scramble and lower their prices right into poverty. And the karma for this big lie Ushered us right into Recession. BAM! that's reality. And we think we're better than china with slave labor? Give me a break
jghedge

climber
Sep 2, 2013 - 10:34pm PT


"Newborns of Illegal Hispanic Parents and ID falsified SSN's etc that distort the real stats between "Documented and Undocumented"."


Hahahaha, the only distortion here is your concept of reality.

You think 38% of CA is here illegally because you believe the 14th amendment is wrong.

Don't most children grow out of this sort of thing around 5th grade?


Does plugging your fingers in your ears and shouting work well enough to keep out the rest of the adult world too?
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Sep 2, 2013 - 10:40pm PT
^^^^^ Exhale
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Sep 2, 2013 - 10:40pm PT
Education for the children of illegal aliens constitutes the single largest cost to taxpayers, at an annual price tag of nearly $52 billion. Nearly all of those costs are absorbed by state and local governments.

You realize this is total horseshit right??

That this is , once again , the cost of the entire budget
Lol

Your jacked up web page is full of sh#t

That's what high school , university and graduate school teaches you Chief.
How to discern information - you are missing this ...
Sources are the most important thing you learn.
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