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Tready

Trad climber
Quito
Jul 10, 2013 - 10:41pm PT
Ron,

http://m.aljazeera.com/story/2013710113522489801

"Exclusive: US bankrolled anti-Morsi Activists"

So does that make Obama worse or better? I'm confused, and I'm looking for a simple, non-nuanced explanation to a complicated issue.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
I means that rong is an idiot
and that it's complicated
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jul 10, 2013 - 10:45pm PT
Thomas Jefferson had literally no clue about economics and nearly ran his plantation into the ground. Without slaves he would have been completely destitute and as it was he borrowed giant piles of money to keep Monticello afloat. He also borrowed money for the Louisiana Purchase. A brilliant man on many counts, an idealist a visionary but clueless about finance. He also envisioned a future of gentleman farmers, tending flocks of sheep and quoting works of great literature to each other as they enjoyed the peaceful distance from the rest of the settled world. That's not quite what the US grew into, is it.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 10, 2013 - 10:49pm PT
Tready that "article" is a bit of a laugh. But honestly obama DID put in the regime that was just removed.. He DID support the muslim brotherhood there just like he is in Syria- and they are taliban and other radical islamic groups.. F-A-K-T...

WOuld it make it sound better that he NOW backs the side he was against a year ago?


Obama is a feKking IDIOT!
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2013 - 10:52pm PT
But honestly obama DID put in the regime that was just removed.. He DID support the muslim brotherhood there just like he is in Syria

No link??
so you just heard it somewhere, and have the gall to call Obama an idiot!
you are an embarrassment to idiots rong
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2013 - 10:54pm PT
You Might Be A Fascist If…

Author: Stephen D. Foster Jr.

How to spot a fascist
Are you a fascist? Many people are fascists and they don’t even realize it. And sometimes, they know it all too well, but hide and deny it. Most of the time though, it’s obvious who the fascists are. For instance, you might be a fascist if…

1. You are obsessed with national power and pride and believe your country doesn’t have to follow the rules and shouldn’t ever apologize for doing things that are wrong. You think your nation can do whatever it wants.

2. You believe in the rule of the few, election rigging, political decisions being made by a select group of officials behind closed doors, embrace the informal and unregulated exercise of political power, arbitrary deprivation of civil liberties, and little tolerance for meaningful opposition.

3. You believe in survival of the fittest, an every man for himself mentality that causes you to believe that poor people and sick people are weak and must be punished. You think rich people are strong because they are wealthy and that they should rule us. You also believe your race is superior to all others.

4. You use the media as a political propaganda machine to target a specific audience and to push your agenda on others. You make sure the media demonizes your opponents and takes your side on nearly every issue. You use your propaganda machine to play on the fears of others.

5. You are obsessed with security, and war. You feed this obsession by spending trillions of dollars building up a large military force and are willing to sacrifice domestic programs your people count on to keep your military huge. You start unnecessary and costly wars and you are paranoid of other nations.

6. You are driven to indoctrinate others into your way of thinking. So much so, that you try to re-write history, change the way school children are taught and you brainwash the ignorant. You use your propaganda machine as a tool to achieve this.

7. You fear and demonize intelligent people who have a higher education because they are the ones who can thwart your effort to brainwash people. You then attempt to prevent others from achieving a higher education because you want the people as ignorant as possible so you can convince them that your way is the right way.

8. You have a deep hatred and fear of communists and you instill your followers with hatred and fear of others by accusing your political opponents of being communists. This gives you an easy scapegoat to blame when things go wrong. Any person or policy you don’t like is branded as communism.

9. You disrespect women and think their place is in the home. You believe women are weak and cannot do things that men do. You believe that sexual harassment or assault is no big deal and that the only thing women are good for is cooking meals and having babies.

10. You strongly align yourself with corporations and you support corporate money and influence in government. You despise government regulations that keep corporations honest because you believe everything should be controlled by the free market and that corporations should be allowed to do whatever they please.

11. You are obsessed with Christianity. You seek to declare a Christian State and to impose religious laws on all the people across the country and the world. You believe other religions are inferior and that those who practice them should either be converted or destroyed.

12. You believe your race is superior and seek to disenfranchise or humiliate other races. You believe in legalized discrimination and fantasize about a return to times when the races were separate or when those of color were enslaved. You use code words in an attempt to hide your racism and you make laws that weaken the influence of those of color. Immigration and voting laws in particular.

13. You absolutely despise unions. To you and those like you, labor unions represent the empowerment of workers. Since you believe corporations can do whatever they want, you see organized labor as a threat because they fight for higher wages, health care, safety regulations, less hours, vacations, sick days, and holidays off. This obviously threatens the amount of money corporations can give to you and your cause so you brand unions as proponents of socialism and make laws that severely weaken them so that corporations can have a cheap, mindless labor force.

14. You are obsessed with crime and a major supporter of punishing those who commit crimes. So much so, that you don’t care about the concept of ‘innocent until proven guilty.’ You are proud of executing people and aren’t bothered if an innocent person is killed. You seek to make harsher laws, especially laws that target specific groups of people such as immigrants, women, and people of color. You also oppose Miranda rights and using humane interrogation tactics and you seek to undermine the independent judiciary.

15. You believe every election should go your way and to reach that goal, you push voting laws that disenfranchise those who traditionally vote for opponents such as people of color, the elderly, college students, and the poor. You even stoop to fixing elections in some cases and complain when your opponents challenge the vote counts.

16. You believe in rewarding your friends with positions when you gain power and you reward those who support you with government contracts and money, especially corporations. You also do your best to aid your supporters in any way you can, such as repealing undesirable pieces of legislation and regulations. You often have something to gain financially from this.

17. You create scapegoats to blame when problems arise. Whether it’s communists, liberals, minorities, homosexuals, the poor, or non-Christians, one thing is for certain. You and your propaganda tool will blame each and every one of those groups for bad things that happen even if you were the cause of the problems in the first place.

18. You take advantage of a national disaster such as an economic collapse or an attack to demonize your opponents and push your agenda. You use these events to strike fear into the population in an attempt to scare people into voting for you and your cause. It’s all about fear and scare tactics.

Sounds just like the Tea Party led Republican Party, doesn’t it?


Read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/05/07/you-might-be-a-fascist-if/#ixzz2YhYaY6Zb
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 10, 2013 - 10:56pm PT
you need a "link " for news that has been discussed for months? You need a "link" to "prove" what EVERY other person knows except YOU doc?


Good lord,, im sure at this point if obama pizzes in yur mouff, you going to say it was "tea". What a party bafoon U R..
Tready

Trad climber
Quito
Jul 10, 2013 - 11:15pm PT
Ron,

Why is it a laugh? Poorly written, factually incorrect, what? And yes, I am asking you what you think about Obama continuing support for a democratically elected Egyptian government (that you seem to despise) but then allegedly supporting its dismantling.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 10, 2013 - 11:45pm PT
Well it doesnt say squat about OBAMA supporting anyone.. But there ARE to truths in that article,, the LAST two sentences.


Now again,,


Jul 10, 2013 - 07:49pm PT
Tready that "article" is a bit of a laugh. But honestly obama DID put in the regime that was just removed.. He DID support the muslim brotherhood there just like he is in Syria- and they are taliban and other radical islamic groups.. F-A-K-T...

WOuld it make it sound better that he NOW backs the side he was against a year ago?


Obama is a feKking IDIOT!


ask yourself HOW MANY MILLIONS of US dollars were given to the new regime only to see it ousted a year later? And now "WE" are going to support the OTHER SIDE too? MAKE SENSE of that i dare you.
Tready

Trad climber
Quito
Jul 11, 2013 - 12:26am PT
My point was that you're painting a complicated issue in simple black/white terms just because you want Obama to look bad. What, the US was supposed to say "Hey, congrats on getting rid of your dictator (he uhh...might have been a friend of ours, but whatever - not important now - yay democracy!), but umm...you had the nerve to elect a Muslim leader, so we're completely done with you. All that aid you've been getting for the last couple decades because you're a pretty important country in a region that hates us (which is weird)? Cut off now!" Surely that would not have created any problems.

You're right, in that article doesn't say Obama himself gave a check to Morsi opponents. And thats totally fine, but If you blamed Obama for any of that IRS BS simply because he's the president, then you're being hypocritical now. Your head isn't going to explode because you *might* agree with something Obama (or his government) did. Just like I don't *have* to agree with everything his government does simply because I support Obama.

You also didn't explain why that article was "a bit of a laugh."
jghedge

climber
Jul 11, 2013 - 12:28am PT


"ask yourself HOW MANY MILLIONS of US dollars were given to the new regime only to see it ousted a year later?"


Hahaha, Rong's found a new delusion to replace Benghazi with. The worse the previous delusion fails, the more emotionally invested he is in the next one...where will it all end
rSin

Trad climber
calif
Jul 11, 2013 - 02:09am PT
christ these tea party idiots!

had one recently quote hamilton to me AS IF hes was an advocate of state rights and limited government...

"hamilton?!?!?!?! they guy who was first to push for the fed to establish a national bank as an imperitive which a tortured reading into the constitution authorized if you squinted hard enough???"


jeeeezus


dirtbag

climber
Jul 11, 2013 - 09:16am PT

you need a "link " for news that has been discussed for months? You need a "link" to "prove" what EVERY other person knows except YOU doc?

Sorry, but over and over, facts you have put out there for discussion have been proven to be flat out wrong.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 11, 2013 - 11:36am PT
Sorry rong, but I don't follow the BS news

So no link that Obama has ties to the Muslim brotherhood...
you heard it from some birther that said it because we all know Obama is Kenyon born Muslim, right?

The only common knowledge in this issue is that You are an idiot rong, Obama has never supported the Muslim Brotherhood, nor did he back Morsi in the elections. Those are the facts, not your BS.

Rong, do you know the definition of an idiot; it's someone that keeps saying the same damn wrong things after he has been proven to be wrong!

I know it's tough to believe the truth when you are an idiot, but at least look for a link when asked, so you can prove yourself wrong rather than have to go this embarrassing mocking that must ensue at your expense.

Dr. F.

Boulder climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 11, 2013 - 10:58pm PT
Rand Paul's Confederacy Scandal Is Not an Anomaly -- Libertarianism Is a 'Philosophy' That Papers Over Deep Racism in America

AlterNet / By Thom Hartmann
July 11, 2013 |
http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/libertarianism-covers-racism?paging=off

Libertarianism truly is the velvet glove of a nice-sounding “freedom” policy that covers the iron fist of five hundred years of genocide and apartheid in America.

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul the guy who questioned the wisdom of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 when he first ran for office, finds himself at the center of yet another race related controversy this week.

On Tuesday, the Washington Free Beacon published an article titled “Rebel Yell” detailing the previous career of Paul’s right-hand man co-author Jack Hunter.

While working as a radio host in South Carolina, Hunter appeared in public wearing a Confederate flag mask, openly called for secession, and even defended the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. He called himself “The Southern Avenger” and was a chairman of the Charleston wing of the League of the South, a group, which, according to its own website, “advocates the secession and subsequent independence of the Southern States from this forced union, and the formation of a Southern republic.”

Rand Paul is now trying to disassociate himself from Hunter, but that will be a difficult task. The “Southern Avenger” isn’t just some random Senate staffer: he’s a close associate of Paul and helped him write his first book back in 2010.

It now looks like Senator Paul is continuing in a great family tradition. Even though he denies responsibility, his father Ron published a series of racist newsletters during a1996 Congressional campaign.

However, we shouldn’t really be that surprised by either of the Pauls’ connection to far-right racism. That’s because they’re libertarians and libertarianism is the velvet glove over the iron fist of racism.

Here’s how it works: when you have an entrenched racial and economic class that has ruled a continent for five centuries, they have well-established levers and levels of power and wealth. They will, generation after generation, do whatever is necessary to hang on to that wealth and power.

History shows, including the history of Reconstruction and the history of integration in the 1950s and 1960, that the only thing strong enough to challenge the political and economic power of a multi-century hereditary ruling class is the power of government.

It was government that made Alabama Governor George Wallace and Georgia Governor Lester Maddox integrate their states. And it was government that both passed and made the South finally accept the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments.

This is what George Wallace had to say about integration during his inaugural address in 1963: "In the name of the greatest people that have ever trod this earth, I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever."

But Wallace lost that fight because the power of government, when appropriately used, is greater than the power of wealth, class, or race.

It took government to break the stranglehold of white rule in the 1870s and 1880, but even that white power structure reasserted itself and fought to reclaim its power, leading to the Plessy v. Ferguson case in 1896 and a half century of segregation which kept in place the political and economic privileges of white people.

So now comes a political philosophy - libertarianism - that says everything is fine, everything is equal, and government should get the hell out of the way.

They say this when the average wealth of a white family when the median net worth of a white family is $110,729 and that of a black family is $4,955.

They say this when in the entire history of the U.S. Senate there have only been three African-Americans elected to that body.

They say this when just twenty minutes after the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act of 1965, the most populous state of the Old Confederacy, Texas, put into place discriminatory voter suppression laws and began gerrymandering.

So, in effect, when conservatives and libertarians say government should get out of the way, what they are really saying is “let’s lock into place white political power, white wealth, and white privilege.

Of course, not all libertarians think of themselves as racist, and most probably don’t see how their “get rid of government” policies prop up institutional bigotry, but the reality is that when you blast government as the root of all evil and neuter its power, you end weakening the one thing that can keep the ruling elite in check.

And when you do that, the rich and powerful race hangs onto its wealth and power and the poorer minorities lose even more of what little they have.

In the end, it doesn’t really matter whether Rand Paul agrees with Jack Hunter that the Confederacy was a good idea.

Because by going on and on about state’s rights and freedom from government tyranny, Senator Paul and his friends on the Libertarian right make sure that the values of Old Dixie – an entrenched racial elite and racial inequality – continue in America.

Libertarianism truly is the velvet glove of a nice-sounding “freedom” policy that covers the iron fist of five hundred years of genocide and apartheid in America.
rSin

Trad climber
calif
Jul 12, 2013 - 12:51am PT
you can talk them to death but racism dont mean sh#t to them because they got nothing against black people or indians

they just have good reason to despise people who wont get a job and support themselves like anybody can that merely takes a shower puts on clean cloths and walks out the door looking for one...

they dont recognize they priveleges they get in life and thus they dont understand the price others have to pay moving around

the doors that are shut where they dont even see doors


accepted infrastructures which impeads and denys a sizable percentage of the public without any of its systemic operators actually having a bad personal feeling about those its shaking down
rSin

Trad climber
calif
Jul 13, 2013 - 07:04am PT
j d turks secret abortion clinic!

look for the sign next the smoldering remains of rowe v wade


http://archive.kpfk.org/mp3/kpfk_130712_143005feldo.MP3
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jul 13, 2013 - 10:32am PT
More evidence of the obvious: Palin is scammin'...not runnin'.

http://www.alaskapublic.org/2013/07/10/palin-talks-senate-run-but-state-gop-hears-radio-silence/


JOE MILLER SUPPORTER: Ladies and gentlemen, Gov. Sarah Palin! *applause*
PALIN: Don’t you just feel so wonderful — let me just ask you first, Alaskans, don’t you just love your freedom?

October 28, 2010. That was the last time former Gov. Sarah Palin really inserted herself into Alaska politics. It was at a rally in Anchorage, and she was endorsing Republican candidate Joe Miller in the Senate race.

Now, fast forward three years.

HANNITY: Well there’s been talk you might run for senator in Alaska. Have you considered that at all?
PALIN: I’ve considered it because people have requested me considering it.

Palin made those comments on Tuesday during a radio show with her Fox News colleague, Sean Hannity. They come after months of speculation over whether she would be open to the possibility of running, and after a national Tea Party group launched a “Draft Sarah” effort. Republicans see Mark Begich in a vulnerable spot as a Democrat in a red state, and Palin’s fans believe she’s a strong contender because of her star power and ability to raise money.

But even though her statement is generating a lot of national buzz, party leadership in Alaska hasn’t heard a peep from her. Republican Party Chair Peter Goldberg says that there’s been no communication between him and Palin. Ever.

“I would think she would want to at least speak briefly to the new head of the Alaska Republican Party. But no, never met the lady. Never spoken to her. I have seen her once.”

That was at the state convention five years ago, and his table was about 30 feet from the podium where she was speaking.

“That’s the closest I’ve come to Sarah Palin.”

I hope she takes another "I'm not looking for publicity vacation" in a giant bus with her signature and the Constitution on the side.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-may-31-2011/indecision-2012---driving-miss-crazy
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 13, 2013 - 11:36am PT
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/07/12/2295691/texas-senate-tampon-gun/
You’re Allowed To Carry A Gun Into The Texas Senate Gallery, But Not A Tampon

By Tara Culp-Ressler on Jul 12, 2013 at 4:08 pm

An example of an item that's not permitted in the Texas Gallery. (Credit: Shutterstock)
On Friday afternoon, the Texas Senate will vote on a package of abortion restrictions that Republican lawmakers have been attempting to push through a special session. After State Sen. Wendy Davis (D-TX) successfully blocked a vote on the legislation last month with a 13-hour filibuster that was aided by disruptions from hundreds of protesters in the gallery, Senate Republicans aren’t taking any chances this time.
According to Jessica Luther, a freelance writer and pro-choice activist who has been coordinating much of the push-back to the proposed abortion restrictions over the past few weeks, Senate officials are confiscating any objects they believe may cause a similar disruption in the gallery during Friday’s vote. Protesters aren’t allowed to carry water bottles or even feminine hygiene products, just in case they might throw them at lawmakers:

Even though the Texas legislature may not be comfortable with feminine hygiene products, it’s a bit more relaxed when it comes to firearms. Individuals with concealed carry licenses are permitted to bring their guns into the Senate gallery. In fact, a Texas Republican recently insinuated he might do just that during the current special session.
In a recent interview with the National Review Online, state Rep. Jonathan Strickland (R) expressed concern over becoming the target of violence as thousands of angry pro-choice activists rally at the capitol. When asked whether those concerns would inspire him to carry a hidden gun this session, he said he couldn’t legally answer that question. But he did add, “I very, very often do concealed-carry, I can say that.”
Since activists aren’t allowed to carry tampons or pads on their person, they have asked supporters to send feminine products to the capitol building so they can stock the bathrooms for the women who may need them.





**Stupid Pansy Teabaglicans, afraid of a tampon.
Don't those fat old pasty white guys know that Tampons and Maxi pads make great emergency first aid bandaging for bullet wounds? Do Texas women need to get a "concealed Carry" permit for in-situ protection?**
rSin

Trad climber
calif
Jul 13, 2013 - 02:36pm PT
From Guantanamo Bay to California's Pelican Bay, thousands of prisoners are on hunger strike, protesting intolerable living conditions, solitary confinement, and indefinite detention. As an architect and leader of Architects / Designers / Planners for Social Responsibility (ADPSR), it certainly got my attention when these prisoners said, in effect, that they'd rather die than go on living in these buildings.

Frankly, there are some buildings that never should have been built – buildings that constitute human rights violations by their very existence. The prisons at Guantanamo Bay are clear examples. From their inception, it should have been clear to everyone involved in the design and construction that the prisons were intended for activities that would violate prisoners' rights – why else would they be located in a remote area with water-only access, no local building industry, and excessively high construction costs if not for the legal fiction that Guantanamo is a constitution-free zone? It wasn't to take advantage of the tropical climate: the designs used were repeats of federal facilities from Indiana. The CIA's "black site" would be on the same list – that is, if anyone was allowed to know where all these "interrogation centers" are, what they all look like, or who designed them all.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/07/13-4
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