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apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jul 17, 2014 - 01:29pm PT
"Some of them seem to keep track of my every word."


Give me a second...I'm gonna go get your list of all the comments that made you cry, Sketchster. (Right after I wash my leg off from your humping.)
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 17, 2014 - 01:53pm PT
Apogee wrote: John, you gotta remind me of the cornucopia of Republican ideas & options that they brought to the table. The ones that polled strongly, especially.

Well the ACA is one... before Obama was for it. You just have to laugh at them. They bring nothing to the table but hate and fear.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Jul 17, 2014 - 03:24pm PT
It's funny how that changed as soon as the Democrats lost their majority in the House, and their allegedly filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.

 not impressive and certainly not convincing me of anything... Old story....

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/no-democrat-controlled-congress-has-balanced-federal-budget-40-years-no-republican

Seems both side do not have a save the country button like you think....

 I'm not supposed to bring up that last pathetic choice for president that was in office.... but you keep bringing up that the world's problems were not resolved while democrats had all the "power".....

The fact is, if the dems had all power, and actually did something/anything the way you suggest it could have been done by the dems
, then it would have meant the end of government as we know it.... The opening salvo in the end of America. There are too many douchebag republitards who'd sh#t themselves to stop it from happening.... Hell, I would even vote against it!!! So, you are sad.... Don't cry.

That's just a pathetic f*#kin' argument..... It's sounds to me that you really do expect someone from either party to solve all your problems that you think are all of America's problems by way of association.

Just like all those pathetic takers those other republitards were talking about during the last presidential campaigns...

old plan worked fine..

 Unfortunately for this poster, one of his type has recently posted something about there being 45 million uninsured... who.. in your world.... was working just fine!!!???

You suck it
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jul 17, 2014 - 05:12pm PT
Sketch posted
Funny how so many of my questions get folks all riled up.

Yes. You're a truly brilliant troll. We're all very impressed.



North Carolina Republicans seek tax penalty on parents whose college kids register to vote somewhere else to protect said voters from being "manipulated."

"We are simply equalizing the playing field for all voters in our state," the statement said.

Jay DeLancy of the NC Voter Integrity Project also voiced support for the student voting restrictions, citing a case in which college students in Buncombe County changed the outcome of a race for a county commission seat in 2012.

"That race showed how easily college students can be manipulated like pawns," DeLancy said in a press release. "These bills will protect students from such abuse."


Read more at http://www.wral.com/senate-bill-seeks-to-curb-college-vote/12298695/#EXihefzw4R7FS1e3.99[/quote]

Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Jul 17, 2014 - 06:06pm PT
Yes. You're a truly brilliant troll. We're all very impressed.

I ask questions that might challenge the echo chamber mentality.

Questions like:

How many were previously uninsured?

That really set some folks off.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jul 17, 2014 - 07:58pm PT
Gee Sketch...And who gives a f*#k...?
Binks

climber
Uranus
Jul 17, 2014 - 08:01pm PT
Palin & Cheney 2016 for Iraq War Part 3, "Let's SPEND 5 TRILLION" This time redux...
Binks

climber
Uranus
Jul 17, 2014 - 08:04pm PT
Sketch wrote: You guys remind me of this.

Republicans are people who, if you were drowning 50 feet from shore, would throw you a 25-foot rope and tell you to swim the other 25 feet because it would be good for your character. Democrats would throw you a hundred-foot rope and then walk away looking for other good deeds to do.


Actually, Republicans would take all the money you invested in a 50 ft rope, and use it to bail out billionaires and pay for a useless war.

Then they'd just let you drown and accuse you of not preparing for your own safety.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jul 17, 2014 - 08:08pm PT
Sketch sense of self importance. Is amazing.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Jul 17, 2014 - 08:22pm PT
How many were previously uninsured?

 49.9 million -- (CNN) -- The U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act on Thursday. The landmark 5-4 decision will dictate the way health care is administered to millions of Americans.
Here's a look at health care in the United States by the numbers, including the populations that could be most affected by the decision on what has come to be known as "Obamacare."
Obama: Health care ruling a victory for all Americans
49.9 million -- The number of uninsured Americans in 2010. That's 16.3% of the total population.
18.4% -- Percentage of uninsured Americans younger than 65 in 2010.
Short-term loss for conservatives? Obama: It's a victory for the people Romney: I'll do what justices didn't Ruling on individual mandate explained
28.4% -- The percentage of Americans 25 to 34 without insurance.
7.3 million -- The number of children in the United States without health insurance, 9.8% of all children in the country.
15.4% - The percentage of children living in poverty who are also uninsured.
Ruling plays into campaign narrative for both sides
26.9% -- Percentage of people earning less than $25,000 a year who are also uninsured.
256.2 million -- The number of Americans who were insured in 2010.
195.9 million -- The number of Americans with private health insurance in 2010, 64% of the total population.
What the health care ruling means to you
169.3 million -- The number of Americans who get their insurance through the workplace.
95 million -- Number of people in the United States covered by government health insurance, 31% of the population.
44.3 million -- Number of Americans receiving Medicare coverage in 2010.
48.6 million -- The number of Americans covered by Medicaid in 2010.
$940 billion -- The amount of money the Congressional Budget Office estimates it will cost to provide the expanded insurance coverage over 10 years.
$143 billion -- The amount by which the plan could reduce the deficit over the first 10 years. And over the following decade, the CBO projected, health reform could reduce the deficit by more than $1 trillion, although the agency stressed such long-term projections are highly uncertain.
Timeline of the health care law
2.35% -- The tax rate high-income individuals would pay into Medicare, up from 1.45%. High-income is defined as individuals making more than $200,000 ($250,000 for couples filing jointly).
2014 -- The year that people who don't buy insurance will be penalized $95 or up to 1% in income.
19.1% - Percentage of people living in the South who are uninsured, the highest percentage of any region.
24.6% - The percentage of uninsured people in Texas, the highest of any state.
5.6% - The percentage of uninsured people in Massachusetts, the lowest of any state.


Ok, here's more than enough information for you to make some kind of point about this single question you ask....make your point now that someone has done your homework for you?
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Jul 18, 2014 - 04:41am PT



Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there

Jul 17, 2014 - 08:22pm PT
How many were previously uninsured?

49.9 million -- (CNN) -- The U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act on Thursday. The landmark 5-4 decision will dictate the way health care is administered to millions of Americans.
Here's a look at health care in the United States by the numbers, including the populations that could be most affected by the decision on what has come to be known as "Obamacare."
Obama: Health care ruling a victory for all Americans
49.9 million -- The number of uninsured Americans in 2010. That's 16.3% of the total population.
18.4% -- Percentage of uninsured Americans younger than 65 in 2010.
Short-term loss for conservatives? Obama: It's a victory for the people Romney: I'll do what justices didn't Ruling on individual mandate explained
28.4% -- The percentage of Americans 25 to 34 without insurance.
7.3 million -- The number of children in the United States without health insurance, 9.8% of all children in the country.
15.4% - The percentage of children living in poverty who are also uninsured.
Ruling plays into campaign narrative for both sides
26.9% -- Percentage of people earning less than $25,000 a year who are also uninsured.
256.2 million -- The number of Americans who were insured in 2010.
195.9 million -- The number of Americans with private health insurance in 2010, 64% of the total population.
What the health care ruling means to you
169.3 million -- The number of Americans who get their insurance through the workplace.
95 million -- Number of people in the United States covered by government health insurance, 31% of the population.
44.3 million -- Number of Americans receiving Medicare coverage in 2010.
48.6 million -- The number of Americans covered by Medicaid in 2010.
$940 billion -- The amount of money the Congressional Budget Office estimates it will cost to provide the expanded insurance coverage over 10 years.
$143 billion -- The amount by which the plan could reduce the deficit over the first 10 years. And over the following decade, the CBO projected, health reform could reduce the deficit by more than $1 trillion, although the agency stressed such long-term projections are highly uncertain.
Timeline of the health care law
2.35% -- The tax rate high-income individuals would pay into Medicare, up from 1.45%. High-income is defined as individuals making more than $200,000 ($250,000 for couples filing jointly).
2014 -- The year that people who don't buy insurance will be penalized $95 or up to 1% in income.
19.1% - Percentage of people living in the South who are uninsured, the highest percentage of any region.
24.6% - The percentage of uninsured people in Texas, the highest of any state.
5.6% - The percentage of uninsured people in Massachusetts, the lowest of any state.


Ok, here's more than enough information for you to make some kind of point about this single question you ask....make your point now that someone has done your homework for you?

None of that answers my question, which was about the 24-29 million Americans who now have healthcare through the ACA.

How many of those people were previously uninsured?

or, as I asked another time

How many Americans who were uninsured a year ago, now have insurance?

I hope you don't infer (again) that I'm saying the whole ACA program is a failure and berate me (again) for holding a view far different from your flawed interpretations.
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Jul 18, 2014 - 07:25am PT
Using numbers from a recently posted Gallup poll, approximately 32 million Americans adults are uninsured. No doubt, many Americans now have insurance, thanks to the ACA. But what about those who are still uninsured? Why are so many still uninsured? What is being done provide coverage to them?

From what I've read, many are too poor to afford insurance (even with subsidies), and not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid. They are the people most in need of universal healthcare.

Why is no one discussing this?

My guess is the Dems don't want to discuss it because it would tarnish the positive results we're seeing. And the GOP is waiting to the opportune time to bash the Dems for not addressing it.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Jul 18, 2014 - 07:44am PT
sketch dont forget the borders are secure!!

yet 2 coastgurds died in january on santa cruz islands from to mexicans in a ponga!
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Jul 18, 2014 - 08:22am PT
Using numbers from a recently posted Gallup poll, approximately 32 million Americans adults are uninsured. No doubt, many Americans now have insurance, thanks to the ACA. But what about those who are still uninsured? Why are so many still uninsured? What is being done provide coverage to them?

Well according to the GOP controlled House... let them eat cake!

Using your own GOP obstructionism as an indicator of the failure of the executive is a complete non-starter.

Repeal the GOP!

DMT
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jul 18, 2014 - 08:35am PT
Sketch posted
I ask questions that might challenge the echo chamber mentality.


You ask questions that can be easily answered by reading straight news reports or googling for maybe 30 seconds. The reaction came from the assumption that you're looking for ways to pick apart the success of the ACA and was defensive and bit over the top. However, your comments/questions rarely "challenge the echo chamber" because they are superficial and you respond to those that take the time to reply to you with shallow, deflective comments like "way to move the goalposts."

It is unclear how many fewer people are uninsured now than before. The initial independent polling indicated that there were significantly fewer however since who is uninsured at any given moment is not static and not easily tracked, you can't clearly say. There are also lots of people who could easily sign up for insurance but don't because they have been convinced that it is bad or who don't see the benefit of it and see the tax penalty as cheaper.

"How many" is also only part of the issue. Millions of Americans who were already insured have markedly expanded coverage and/or reduced costs because of the ACA. The act has also changed the conversation inside of the healthcare industry towards providing value for patients and bending the cost curves down. In fact, part of the "problem" of our GDP growth is that healthcare spending has dropped which, since economists don't know how to subtract, is considered "bad."

So, support the economy and rack up some needless healthcare debt.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Jul 18, 2014 - 08:45am PT
Measuring how many have insurance policies is only one metric of the impact of the ACA.

One of the huge changes under ACA is that everyone who has an individual policy cannot be dropped if they develop a costly medical condition.

In other words, they are actually getting the insurance they are paying for. Before ACA, many people were paying premiums to insurance companies but were not really receiving the protection from financial ruin that the insurance was supposedly providing. The insurance company would just drop them as soon as they got sick.

It's nice to see that Sketch is concerned about the uninsured.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Jul 18, 2014 - 08:48am PT
Right now, hospitals continue to reduce their facility's- all over the increasingly heavy burden of medicaid patients which are the largest percentage of newly insured. Doctors closing their doors and joining large corporate hospitals as well. In my area, Carson Tahoe is right now closing 3 out patient physical therapy offices that all were making a profit, due to the upcoming surge of low paying medicaid contracts. Meanwhile employers are shifting full time positions to part time positions to AVOID the cost of govt approved (ACA guidelines) coverage. 8 of 10 jobs on average are now part time positions, thus increasing the need for subsidies for the low income folks. More working poor, more subsidies, and less medical staff and offices IS the result around here.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Jul 18, 2014 - 09:05am PT
Ron, have you EVER been factually correct on anything?

Take this nugget of horseshit you spewed:

Meanwhile employers are shifting full time positions to part time positions to AVOID the cost of govt approved (ACA guidelines) coverage. 8 of 10 jobs on average are now part time positions

While that may be true in your deranged, fantasy life as depicted on Teabaggers Gone Wild Vol 8, it has zero relation to reality.

FACT: Since 2010, full time jobs are up 7.6 million, while part-time jobs have declined by over 900,000.

Ok, so that's aggregate numbers. What about as a percentage of the labor force? BIG decline in part time as a % since 2010.



8 out of 10!!! Try about 1 in 20 (that's a percentage of part time on the left scale there derpboy).

In conclusion, you are completely and totally FULL OF SH#T. That you make these claims, when 10 seconds of internet searching could easily reveal they are factually incorrect, seems par for the course for the teabilly moron set....of which you are a poster child. Good day.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 18, 2014 - 09:09am PT
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Jul 18, 2014 - 09:11am PT
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber

Jul 18, 2014 - 08:35am PT

You ask questions that can be easily answered by reading straight news reports or googling for maybe 30 seconds. The reaction came from the assumption that you're looking for ways to pick apart the success of the ACA and was defensive and bit over the top. However, your comments/questions rarely "challenge the echo chamber" because they are superficial and you respond to those that take the time to reply to you with shallow, deflective comments like "way to move the goalposts."

It is unclear how many fewer people are uninsured now than before. The initial independent polling indicated that there were significantly fewer however since who is uninsured at any given moment is not static and not easily tracked, you can't clearly say. There are also lots of people who could easily sign up for insurance but don't because they have been convinced that it is bad or who don't see the benefit of it and see the tax penalty as cheaper.

"How many" is also only part of the issue. Millions of Americans who were already insured have markedly expanded coverage and/or reduced costs because of the ACA. The act has also changed the conversation inside of the healthcare industry towards providing value for patients and bending the cost curves down. In fact, part of the "problem" of our GDP growth is that healthcare spending has dropped which, since economists don't know how to subtract, is considered "bad."

So, support the economy and rack up some needless healthcare debt.

You start off with:

You ask questions that can be easily answered by reading straight news reports or googling for maybe 30 seconds.

Later, you state:

It is unclear how many fewer people are uninsured now than before.

Nice double talk.

I previously gave you flack for moving the goalposts because that's exactly what you did, along with muddying the waters. What was that nonsense about the poll results not being about opinions? All in all, you seemed intent on disqualifying my post with a bunch of distractions. You accuse me (above) of using the tactics you demonstrate.

So, what about those still uninsured? Does the ACA have a way to bring them on board? What's being done about them?
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