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Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jun 8, 2014 - 12:06am PT
Former USFS Law Enforcement Officer Admits to Conspiracy to Illegally Export Handgun.

Posted: Fri 10:57 AM, Jun 06, 2014
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Former Law Enforcement Officer Ron Anderson has been identified as an unindicted co-conspirator in a situation where he allegedly facilitated the purchase and illegal export of a handgun by a foreign co-worker. Apparently, Mr. Anderson had confessed to such action on an internet discussion forum seen by ATF agents.......

Wow. It's in writing, so it must be true........
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 8, 2014 - 08:19am PT
Credit: Dr. F.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jun 8, 2014 - 12:33pm PT
Ok, so it is as official as it can be at this point: Hillary is running.

I say that because there are a series of steps that must be taken to run. One of them is to write and publish a book. If you look back at all the contenders in the last race, they all had their books.

By the way, that is also how you can tell who will be running on the Repub side. If you've never run before, and you've previously published, then that is checked off the list.

So for example, Chris Christie has not published one. Jeb Bush's is on immigration.

As we move into the election season for President (and we are already there),
you can see some of the signs.....candidates going into Iowa and NH, and swing states, and showing up on programs, setting up fundraising committees....

But the next step beyond that is "the book", so keep your eyes open.

So who is going to run on the Repug side????
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 8, 2014 - 12:44pm PT
So who is going to run on the Repug side????

I really like Ted Cruz
jammer

climber
Jun 8, 2014 - 12:48pm PT
All I can say is I hope we Americans get a choice besides Hillary. Billery is what gives the GOP nearly ALL their ammo regarding the "both parties are the same B.S." mantra, and pretty much all this ammo is legitimate, thoughtful, well pointed criticism (except the whole Lewinski shenanigans).

After Billery sold the U.S. abroad, it didn't matter to America that the GOP were a bunch of war-mongers. Between that choice and getting more sold to the rest of the world, we voted GOP as it was perceived as the lesser evil. Now look where we are. A Clinton would have us in pretty much the same place, just instead of being economically strung out on the military we would be economically strung out giving free sh#t to China and the rest of the world. I'll pass on that personally, especially since this won't be talked about in Clintons campaign. Instead we will be led to believe we are voting for an ideal, the ideal of the perfect equality between men and women. Given that Clinton will just f*#k over America as Billery did, we will then be left with back to back failed democratic administrations, and vote GOP again either in 2020 or 2024. That means we don't get out of this mess. Seriously, I REALLY hope we get a good option for president in the next election...


NO TO HILLARY CLINTON






Edited to add: Am I the only one disturbed by the Hillary rhetoric which suggests we put a politician in office who has "the political wherewithal to get things done"? Do we really want ANY president who facilitates the GOP to achieve ANY of their broader goals (that being returning humanity to the time of the middle ages. I'm not kidding. This is the time in history the GOP hold as sacred in their political philosophy, seriously. That and America right before WWI and WWII. If they could make any of those epochs resurface, they would be THRILLED.)? Do the GOP do ANYTHING to compromise with their true opposite philosophy, that being Obama? Would you compromise with someone who says they are going to hurt you in the same way no matter how you react? Or would you just give your best shot at overcoming this person, and hopefully show them a thing or two about the world. Seriously. Think about this stuff.

fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Jun 8, 2014 - 12:57pm PT
"Billery" makes you sound so intelligent

actually i quit reading after you said that so there might be some gems in your post

but probably its just crap
jammer

climber
Jun 8, 2014 - 01:00pm PT
^^^You might tune back in. Lol. "Billery" since we would be getting pretty much the same administrations. Notice how "Billery" put Bill in Hillary on an equal footing, but perhaps you would prefer "Hilliam" for this round...
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 8, 2014 - 01:03pm PT
we will then be left with back to back failed democratic administrations

jammer, I can tell you have done a lot research on politics and so know of this stuff

so for a novice like me, please elaborate on all the "failures" of the Obama Administration

starting with: withdrawing the combat troops from Iraq

then passing Lilly Fair Pay Act

then tell us about the complete "failure" of taking over with the economy already in the worst recession since the Great Depression and the stock market at 8000

do tell us rookie political hacks all about these many failures please?

oh, and it would be helpful if you would say what you personally would have done differently, being so kind as to state your own political resume and how you handled all those DOD, CIA, Foreign Policy, and Economic daily briefing with your busy schedule

then, STFU, because you don't know your azz from second base
jammer

climber
Jun 8, 2014 - 01:07pm PT
Norton, I don't think Obama's administration is a failure on it's own merits. Obama is a class act and a brilliant politician. I hugely admire his political skill. I know he cant get anything done since the GOP just block the crap out of him, and this is the only reason. They do this because he actually wants change, unlike Hillary.

I want to vote another Obama administration in, and also vote in other politicians that will work with an Obama type administration. Voting in an administration the the GOP will work with is the last thing we want to do. That is what we would get with Hillary IMO.





Edited to add: Sketch, take note how I don't get butt-hurt (feign butt-hurt?) when I am misunderstood. I just explain myself more clearly. You should try this :).

Also, Norton, Obama's administration would pretty much definitely be regarded as a COMPLETE failure after we elected Hillary and got more sold to the rest of the world. After that four to eight year period, all the subtlety that is so important to catch the actual nuance of what is going on with Obama, to figure out where he really stands politically, will be forgotten. All people will remember is an administration which got nothing done, and thus "failed" them. This will STRONGLY reinforce the total B.S. notion that "both parties are the same".

NO TO HILLARY CLINTON!
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Jun 8, 2014 - 02:40pm PT
I'm not a big fan of Hillary Clinton but when you use that derogatory term 'Billary' it just makes you sound like a hack.

Anyway who ya got? Jeb? Christie? Palin? Cruz? Lmao

Give us an option that's actually an option for once
jammer

climber
Jun 8, 2014 - 03:14pm PT
Lol fluffy. Billery is a technical term meant to point out that we would be getting the same administration we got in 1992. The result of this was to truly disenfranchise working class Americans by sending their jobs overseas. THIS IS THE ONLY FARKING REASON THE DEMOCRATS DON'T TROUNCE THE SH#T OUT OF THE GOP AT EVERY FARKING ELECTION IN EVERY DISTRICT IN AMERICA. THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT "ELECTED" GWB jr.

Why would the GOP/Elite not replay that card, or at least try to? Keep in mind the Elite are huiman beings with all the subsequent limitations put on human beings, so they can't just take any random slop and throw them in office and get the result they want. They are LIMITED in their options...

Seriously, I would take any random fairly unknown democratic candidate, or any "RINO". NOT HILLARY CLINTON THOUGH! Also, DEFINITELY NOT any of the candidates you mentioned. All those people are WAY more batshit crazy than Hillary, so if it's Hillary or them, of course I will vote Hillary, but damn do I want a REAL option.
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Jun 8, 2014 - 05:16pm PT
Norton, I don't think Obama's administration is a failure on it's own merits. Obama is a class act and a brilliant politician. I hugely admire his political skill.

I'm a supporter of Obama but I'd say that his worst failing is lack of political skill. We wanted a Washington outsider, we got an outsider, and he's not able to get enough done - because he's an outsider.

TE
jammer

climber
Jun 8, 2014 - 05:23pm PT
Eddie, I agree, except about political skill. He got there as an outsider. That speaks for itself.

I want another outsider in office, and a bunch more in The House and Senate. There are PLENTY of qualified underfunded politicians who actually give a sh#t. The field is thick. ANY one of them will do, preferably a nice mix of moderate representatives of various philosophies.

The only reason we would want an insider is if the system wasn't corrupt. Clearly, however, it is...

Yes it is ironic that there are people in this country dumb enough to call Obama a communist while at the same time advocating for electing a bunch of dis-reputable politically inexperience heavily funded hacks.
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Jun 8, 2014 - 05:31pm PT
Seems to me if Hillary is such a train wreck, the repugnican'ts should be doing everything in their power to ensure she sweeps the primaries...
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 8, 2014 - 05:56pm PT
any child can use vague words like "failure" and packaged talking point language

the same child can pound the table and demand what "they" want to "see"

meaningless rhetoric

get specific, jammer

I asked you this above:

oh, and it would be helpful if you would say what you personally would have done differently, being so kind as to state your own political resume and how you handled all those DOD, CIA, Foreign Policy, and Economic daily briefing with your busy schedule

show you are not an empty bloviating windbag, let's hear specifics of how you would have passed legislation without control of the House and with every single Republican member of the US Senate being such pricks that they could not even bring themselves
to vote for a Democratic bill that would have mandated equal pay for equal work

state exactly how you, jammer, with your deep political reality and powerful intellect would have insured against all the "failures" of the Obama Administration
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Jun 8, 2014 - 06:28pm PT
If Hillary wins, the GOP can look straight in the mirror and blame themselves for adopting a strategy (to the exclusion of all others) of lying to the American people, obstructing all legislation along party lines, trying to shut the government down when they didn't get their way and capitulating to the fringe lunatics among them: the Tea Party.

Really think America is ready for another republican administration? Maybe in another 10 years lol
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jun 8, 2014 - 07:25pm PT
I think when you blame Hillary for the foreign policy of the US while she was Sec of State, you fail to understand that the Sec of State does NOT create that foreign policy....the President does. The Sec is only responsible for carrying it out.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jun 8, 2014 - 07:40pm PT
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Jun 8, 2014 - 07:48pm PT
Love that pic

TFPU

what a fcukin badass
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jun 8, 2014 - 08:12pm PT
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