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Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 4, 2013 - 10:57pm PT
Credit: Dr. F.

What do they think of us Liberals?

I say that they are "Just Feudal and Marxist "progressives" that belie...
I say that they are "Just Feudal and Marxist "progressives" that believe in the collective the subordination of the individual and the expansion of the power of the state without limit."

Credit: Dr. F.
Yep, that's what we believe, how did you ever figure it out,
You don't even know what a Marxist is. I can tell you one thing, None of us are Marxists.
Moron
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Apr 4, 2013 - 11:04pm PT
Would any republitard in congress ever consider doing this?

http://www.politicususa.com/game-on-republicans-follow-president-obamas-lead-repaying-5-pay.html


Republicans Go Silent After President Obama Gives Back 5% of His Salary

By: Sarah JonesApr. 3rd, 2013more from Sarah Jones
Thursday, April 04, 2013



Oh, dear. President Obama is going to be writing the government a check every month for 5% of his salary as a show of unity with federal workers impacted by the Republican sequester. That’s $20,000 a year. If Republicans are so concerned about the deficit that they were willing to allow the sequester to kick in, surely they will step up to follow the President’s fiscal example.

CNN reported today:

Obama, whose $400,000 annual salary is set in law and can’t officially be changed, will write a check made out to the U.S. treasury every month beginning in April. Since the mandatory across-the-board spending cuts went into effect March 1, his payment for last month will be paid retroactively.


“The president has decided that to share in the sacrifice being made by public servants across the federal government that are affected by the sequester, he will contribute a portion of his salary back to the Treasury,” the official said.


According to the Constitution, the President’s salary can’t be changed during his/her term: “The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.”

But just in case anyone was wondering (like a few of the super outraged conservative sites), the Budget Control Act of 2011 contained an exemption that elected members of Congress (and the President, but that’s sort of redundant given the Constitution) won’t have their salary or pension reduced.

A check of John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan, and Rand Paul’s websites reveals not a single statement or mention of the president’s decision to return 5% of his pay. Apparently, these Republicans believe that their talk of budgetary belt tightening applies to you, not them.

In February of this year, Republicans happily proposed reducing the federal workforce through attrition to avoid sequestration this year. They didn’t ask for cuts to federal contractors. They asked for cuts to employees who have already sacrificed $103 billion in the name of deficit reduction since 2011, according to Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA). They left for break after approving reduced funding for their committees, but not for themselves.

While Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) made pretty PR by authoring an amendment for a fund to which Congress could choose to donate 20% of their pay , USA Today points out that it was part of a non-binding vote to the budget resolution, and thus does not have the force of law.

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Deputy Defense Secretary Ashton Carter already volunteered their salaries before the President did. So far, two Democratic Senators have also risen to the challenge: Sen. Mark Begich (D-AK) stepped up to the plate and will be returning a portion of his salary, ”We need to be making responsible cuts wherever we can and there is no reason that members of Congress shouldn’t feel the pinch like everyone else.” And Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-O) has also pledged to return a portion of her salary. Not a peep from a Republican yet.

Meanwhile, as the President shows solidarity with American workers, in the House, Eric Cantor (R-VA) is pushing a bill to gut rules governing overtime pay for the American workers.

It’s ironic that the people claiming to be so concerned about the deficit and so eager to cut pay for some people are unwilling thus far to step up to the plate and cut their own pay even by 1%. Tick tock Republicans. Put your money where your mouth is.


Would any republtard ever even condor this action?

My opinion?

Not no your life. What… Take a pay cut because the rest of the federal government is having to? You can forget that.

They are not American enough, not patriotic enough and don't care enough about anyone but themselves to do such a thing.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 4, 2013 - 11:10pm PT
They are not American enough, not patriotic enough and don't care enough about anyone but themselves to do such a thing.


fuk em
Ricky

climber
Sometimes LA
Apr 5, 2013 - 12:24am PT

I's funny when TGT tries to fake having an education.
VDH columns don't coun't. For anything.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Apr 5, 2013 - 12:30am PT
Some four days and 120 posts ago i threw out an April Fools bone to the creator of this thread, our very own good Dr. F. Predictably, he eagerly mouthed that bone thrashing it back and forth in a fit of partisan rage.He and his like minded minions have continued their hideous discourse unabated since then. I suppose it is an education in the origin and evolution of mass hysteria as their talking points, rebuttals, and personal attacks mirror exactly the national progressive liberal movement we are enduring at this point in our history. They are short sighted though ,in believing they are riding the crest of an unbreakable wave, just like the holier than thou republican majority before them who thought they could force feed religion, disastrous and illegal foreign wars,and simultaneously loot the treasury forever more.In this country of boom and bust the pendulum swings from one extreme to the other, rational equilibrium a rarity.I guess this thread has a high degree of entertainment value or it wouldn't have more posts than any other here.

Anyway Hedge, i still have a little faith that you can be reeducated to resemble a reasonably convincing facsimile of an independent thinker. A few more points about Polar Bears and Climate Change (the buzzwords were switched to Climate Change from Global Warming when no appreciable warming was measured): In january a Federal Court threw out a U.S. government proposal to designate 187,000 sq. miles of northern Alaska coast as critical habitat for supposedly endangered Polar Bears. Shortly after this an international conference voted down an attempt by a U.S. delegation, headed by the deputy secretary of the interior,to recognize the Polar Bear internationally as endangered. Read some of the papers and opinions by Martin Hoerling of NOAA and professor Richard Lindzen who both have different opinions on the causes and effects of global climate change. Also go to wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/30global-warminganthropogenic-or-html for a good counter point read.
jghedge

climber
Apr 5, 2013 - 12:33am PT
"Anyway Hedge, i still have a little faith that you can be reeducated to resemble a reasonably convincing facsimile of an independent thinker. A few more points about Polar Bears and Climate Change..."


A topic I've never posted to, never even clicked on, and have no opinion on

Apparently that's some pretty good faith you're smoking there


Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 5, 2013 - 10:29am PT
Hedge
Your our last hope!!
rick has given up on me, since I don't believe right wing propaganda,
since it has been proven to be Wrong about Everything.

Please post something to rick that gives him hope in OUR KIND

message to rick
post your Climate Change opinions in the Climate Change thread, since I haven't read up on the newest BS you are trying to pedal. I'm sure Dr. Ed will have a debate on the subject, and prove it real, or wrong.
I predict he will prove you Wrong. Just like the rest of the Right Wing propaganda you guys latch on to.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Apr 5, 2013 - 11:21am PT
Now Dr. F if i didn't have your sweet, old, cantankerous rhetoric to listen to i wouldn't have sensible right wing thoughts to latch onto to prevent drowning in a sea of discontent.Thankyou for the life preserver and all your efforts to stir up excitement, how ever wrong it may be.You're a master of internet blather.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 5, 2013 - 11:27am PT
I really doubt that I am any where near the top of internet blather
But thanks for the props bro.

rick, it's all in fun, I have no ill wll or anger for you or anyone, just the Republican leaders and their policies/obstructionism.

Why do we do this? Because it's educational, how will anyone learn about what's going on if we don't discuss it, and expose the lies-on both sides of the aisle.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 5, 2013 - 11:35am PT
Rick,, i check in on this thread to see what the equal and opposite of West boro types are up to..Lets me know where the middle is. Seems the extremes always go for the insult tactics..They have little else.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Apr 5, 2013 - 11:41am PT
Well Ron, you know as well as i that these left wingers would no more willingly migrate to middle ground than the republican majority before them.It's a pity that the extremes of either side are the tails that wag the dog, but at least it is fun arguing with idiots.Hehehe
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 5, 2013 - 11:45am PT
Yah, I hate those extremists too.
I'm glad to be right smack dab in the Center, where logic, rationality and reality based ideologies Rule!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 5, 2013 - 11:50am PT
I suppose that is truth Rick. I remember times in my life where i was unwilling to bend. The the eyes opened, and the party lines faded.. You can only take so much double talk from either party before the light dawns. Every President since FDR has engaged in power trips like the NDAA2013 laws.
The overstepping of states by the Feds is at an all time high. And the attack on the constitution has never been greater. In the name of "safety" we have given up ALL our privacies. We have phone taps, cell phone locators, about thrity different "cyber sections" in the NDAA 2013 bill, and ohw yeah,, the lovely freindly DRONES now. None of which seem to make me feel safer.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Apr 5, 2013 - 11:50am PT
Oh come on Dr. We all know there's not a sensible bone in your internet body.We should go climbing together some time. My capabilities are quite low but i like to keep the humor high. What's your location and area of preference?
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Apr 5, 2013 - 11:51am PT
"we have to pass the bill to find out what's in the bill"

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obamacare-to-pay-navigators-20-to-48-an-hour-provide-free-translators/article/2526167
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 5, 2013 - 11:57am PT
Your batting 1000 when it comes to being WRONG
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 5, 2013 - 11:57am PT
Bookworm,, that is akin to Hillarys now infamous quote,,"what difference does it make how they died now!".....
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 5, 2013 - 12:01pm PT
I climb Josh, doing mostly 13bs these dayz

hey bro, you missed my message about how I lived on the North Shore in the early 80s, climbed with Stewy Johnson and Eric Pearlman, and lived in the same house with Hedge for a season.

I'm trying to razzle Stewy, so if you see some of my posts on the Eagle Ridge thread, just know that I am having some fun.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 5, 2013 - 12:16pm PT
Heres a great help from the current admin:



Government grant to study DUCK PENISES



There's a creepy dark side to this cute little duck! (iStock photo)

Sequestration is serious business. Jobs are on the line. Day care for poor kids is under the ax.

Yet even in this budget climate, your federal government still has the money to pay for -- please disregard our blushing -- a study examining duck penises.

You read that right: duck penises.

This waterfowl kerfuffle erupted earlier this week, when the conservative website CNSNews.com published a story pulling back the curtain on a $384,949 grant from the National Science Foundation for a Yale University study looking at ducks’ sexual behavior and anatomy and the evolutionary consequences.

"Many duck penises are corkscrew-shaped and some scientists believe this is because of a form of evolution known as ‘sexual conflict,’" the story said.





Now,, of course,, duck penises ARENT studied ALIVE. those poor ducks will be killed just for their PENISES.. Kinda makes hunters look GREAT.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 5, 2013 - 12:22pm PT
We told the Republicans to Not allow the sequester to go through, because the cuts will Do nothing Except Harm working people and other good things.
They wouldn't listen, and said any cuts are better than no cuts.

So we get the Sequester cuts, Not cuts in spending that will help.
Can you Understand how It works now rong, since I explained it for you.

The Republicans F-ed us again, Not Obama, not the Dems, it was the Republicans......

So the solution is, Vote them out, right?


Obama offered other spending cuts that added to more than a trillion dollars, but the Republicans rejected that, and instead just f-ed us all.
They are not going to do anything that will help pay down their debt, or help normal people, that is a fact.
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