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Dr. F.

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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2014 - 10:50am PT
Republicans were wrong about ObamaCare, like always.

ObamaCare will help us win back the House, keep the Senate, and Win the President in 2016
Millions have HealthCare Insurance for their First time in their Lives!

No one cares that the web site wasn't up to 100% the first day, that's just another attack by the right wingers on straw men, a distraction, a smear campaign used to create more fear and anger,
It worked on the right wingers that are on the wrong side of everything, a hopeless group that will never vote for their better good,
they are a lost cause.

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Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Apr 13, 2014 - 10:53am PT
But, but, but...
B E N G H A Z I !

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Dr. F.

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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2014 - 11:17am PT
Credit: Dr. F.

Credit: Dr. F.

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Apr 13, 2014 - 04:07pm PT

Volkswagen’s New 300 MPG Car Is Not Allowed In America Because It’s Too Efficient

http://themindunleashed.org/2014/04/volkswagens-new-300-mpg-car-allowed-america-efficient.htmlBold Text**

You won’t find the 300 MPG Volkswagen XL1 in an American showroom, in fact it has even been denied a tour of America because it is too efficient for the American public to be made widely aware of, and oil profits are too high in America with the status quo in place.

No tour has been allowed for this car because the myth that 50 mpg is virtually impossible to obtain from even a stripped down econobox is too profitable to let go of, and when it comes to corporate oil profits, ignorance is bliss.

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Why can't you Regressives and Obstructionists see the bigger picture or think outside the box, or in this case barrel.

Same mindset resists Green Renewable and Sustainable energy.

Somewhere out there
Apr 13, 2014 - 05:23pm PT
I can't match the depths of the attacks on the right the main players make here, like Bob, Norton, kman, Jingy, Ken, and yourself, among many others

 What? How am I on this distinguished list? Have I attacked someone? Or do I merely I shed light on a particular type of party line-idiot republitard from time to time?

They deserve much more than I provide.

Trad climber
Apr 13, 2014 - 07:03pm PT
philo posted
One excuse is that “they don’t meet American crash test standards”, but the real truth is that the Fed simply refused to ever crash test them because of what they are, in Europe even the XL1 is considered to be a very safe car in crashes, and the Jetta station wagon is obviously even safer and you CAN buy the non TDI versions of the exact same car in America. The only thing different is the engine, WHAT GIVES?

So this is all part of Obama's secret plan to keep us addicted to oil?


They are making 250 copies of this $120,000 - $150,000 car. It has been test driven in America by journalists. VW is only distributing them in Europe which is a decision they made, not one imposed on them by oil corrupted government officials. Put down the conspiracy crack pipe. Not everything printed on a website is the truth.
Bruce Kay

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Apr 13, 2014 - 07:10pm PT
You guys can't get a TDI ? Dime a dozen up here. 50 km per litre.

Trad climber
Apr 13, 2014 - 07:14pm PT
Get out of here with your caribou math.
Doug from Hobart

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Apr 13, 2014 - 09:34pm PT
Get out of here with your caribou math.

I know. Round numbers are too simple for you lot south of the border. One thing you couldn't let go of despite the Boston Tea Party, and all that independence stuff ever since.
Dr. F.

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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2014 - 11:50pm PT
Credit: Dr. F.

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Apr 14, 2014 - 01:06am PT

More people losing their jobs and access to healthcare thanks to Obamacare.


A medical clinic in Mena, Ark. announced that it would be closing, citing a large drop in need for the clinic as people have signed up for health insurance under Obamacare.

"Because people are qualifying for insurance coverage through the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, our free medical clinic will not be needed anymore," Stacey Bowser, the director of the 9th Street Ministries Clinic, told the Mena Star.

"We’ve gone from seeing around 300 people a month on a regular basis, but as people were enrolling in Obamacare, the numbers we were seeing have dropped. We were down to 80 people that came through the medical clinic in February, all the way down to three people at the medical clinic in March. Our services won’t be needed anymore, and this will conclude our mission," she continued.


Trad climber
Apr 14, 2014 - 01:16am PT

I called and after a half hour of holding and 45 minutes of a little old lady on the phone typing then saying "oh dear" I have health insurance!
I'm 33 years old and have never had health insurance due to my hemophilia and today, for less than 200 dollars, I have medical and dental.

From another forum I frequent.

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Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Apr 14, 2014 - 03:34am PT
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NO difference between the parties? Yeah right. Now tell me about the Easter bunny.

Trad climber
Apr 14, 2014 - 05:38am PT
But will Hairy be there to lead the waaaaay??


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"Sh#t shack across from the city dump"
Apr 14, 2014 - 10:45am PT

"Why can't you Regressives and Obstructionists see the bigger picture or think outside the box, or in this case barrel.

Same mindset resists Green Renewable and Sustainable energy."




Gym climber
Apr 15, 2014 - 01:53am PT
Wow. JohnE really did try to defend that one, didn't he?

Here's a choice few words from his diatribe:

I find it particularly ironic that so many who rail against "corporate greed" (an interesting concept coming from those who remind us that those metaphysical entities aren't "people") simultaneously allege that those same "greedy" businesses unfairly discriminate in payment for the same job. If they were to do so, they would be overpaying someone, and greed abhors overpayment of others.

Here, John asserts that it would not be a "greedy" corporation's interest to pay two people different salaries for the same job. Which is a great argument, if you buy into the falsehood that corporations don't pay different salaries for the same work. But, as has been proven, corporations do pay different salaries for the same work.

So John's rambling point here, in actuality, points out the fact that John has no point. Other than to say that perhaps corporations aren't greedy?

Alrighty now... Next!!

..ramble.ramble.. rant ..ramble.ramble.. .. They almost never base compensation on productivity, competence, or any other proxy for true merit, because that depends on subjective measures.

[Earth to JohnE .... Earth to JohnE ....]

No thank you. I'd much rather work for an organization where my compensation depends on pleasing my boss....

And back on Earth, John, bosses are pleased how?? Holy cow, they're pleased by f'ing OBJECTIVE MEASURES. Such as, "Did you get that report out on time?", or "Are sales up?"

John, you sound good, the way you put your words together. But the ideas that your words represent. Well, they need a little help. For example, it'd be great if you started with things that are based in reality, then work up from there. Try it out, you'll see your rhetoric improve by leaps.
Dr. F.

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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 15, 2014 - 11:38am PT
Santa Claus Faces the Democratic Firing Squad?

By Thom Hartmann and Sam Sacks,
Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:13


The On the day after the election, Rush Limbaugh blamed Santa Claus for Mitt Romney's defeat.

"Conservativism did not lose last night," Limbaugh said. "It's just very difficult to beat Santa Claus. It is practically impossible to beat Santa Claus. People are not going to vote against Santa Claus," Limbaugh concluded.

The night before, on Election Night, as the tide was turning against Romney, fellow Republican kingpin Bill O'Reilly said, "50% of the voting public wants stuff. They want things. Who is going to give them things? President Obama. He knows it and he ran on it." In other words, President Obama won by playing Santa Claus.

Even Mitt Romney himself blamed "Santa Claus" Obama. After his loss, Romney told donors, "The Obama campaign was following the old playbook of giving a lot of stuff to groups that they hoped they could get to vote for them and be motivated to go out to the polls, specifically the African American community, the Hispanic community and young people." Referring to President Obama's reforms that allowed young people to stay on their parents' health insurance plans, Romney called it a "big gift to young people."

These men, especially Rush Limbaugh, perfectly summed up the message the Republican establishment took from their election defeat, which is, "It is practically impossible to beat Santa Claus."

But this is something Republicans have known for quite a long time.

They first learned this lesson in the 1930's and 40's after the New Deal, when Democratic President Franklin Roosevelt played the role of Santa Claus and gave the American people Social Security and unemployment insurance. At the time, Republicans played Scrooge arguing that we couldn't afford it. They played the role of Scrooge in the 1960's, too, as Democratic President Lyndon Johnson played Santa Claus as well, and gave the American people Medicare and other Great Society programs to cut poverty.

And what did Republicans get for playing Scrooge? Electoral defeat after electoral defeat. Starting with FDR's big win in 1936, with the lone exception of the 2-year "Do-Nothing Congress" elected in 1946, Republicans never held a majority in the House of Representatives until 1995. And the way they were able to finally come out of this political slump was by listening to a Republican strategist/faux economist named Jude Wanniski who wrote a transformative article for the National Observer in 1976 that laid out the new Republican path to power.

Titled "Taxes and a Two-Santa Theory," Wanniski warned that Republicans, "embrace the role of Scrooge, playing into the hands of the Democrats, who know the first rule of successful politics is Never Shoot Santa Claus." He said, "As long as Republicans have insisted on balanced budgets, their influence as a party has shriveled."

And since, as Limbaugh lamented, you can't beat Santa Claus, then Wanniski said Republicans need to play Santa Claus themselves - the Santa Claus of tax cuts! Wanniski wrote, "The only thing wrong ... is the failure of the Republican Party to play Santa Claus... The Two Santa Claus Theory holds that Republicans should concentrate on tax reduction."

In other words, Democrats can give "gifts" like Social Security and Medicare and Republicans can counter with gifts like massive tax cuts, which is exactly what they did when Ronald Reagan was elected in 1980 and picked Wanniski as an adviser.

But there was another dimension to Wanniski's strategy that he doesn't explicitly lay out in his article. And that's this: If Republicans, by playing Santa Claus on their own, successfully pass their tax cuts (as Reagan and Bush 2 did) without cutting spending, then the government will be starved of revenue until eventually it can't afford the Democratic Party's social services like Social Security, unemployment insurance and Medicare; all things that Republicans have labeled as "gifts." And if Republicans scream and yell enough about the deficit they've created with their tax cuts, then maybe – just maybe – it will force the Democrats to reverse roles, play Scrooge, and eventually shoot Santa Claus.

It was a brilliant political strategy that for more than 30 years has worked flawlessly.

Thanks to their tax cuts, Republican Presidents have added nearly $10 trillion in debt to the nation's balance books since Reagan, which is far more than Democratic Presidents. And yet, it's the Republican Party that pretends to be the most concerned about the national debt, devoting every breath to nightmare scenarios of what might happen if we don't bring our annual deficits under control by cutting social spending.

And, unable to see through this blatant hypocrisy and recognize that Republicans deficit-hawks are just playing politics, Democratic Presidents have fallen right into Wanniski's trap – they're shooting Santa Claus.

Clinton pulled the trigger in 1996 when he blasted a hole in LBJ's Great Society legislation and ended welfare as we know it. And earlier this year, President Obama did it when he signed on to legislation that cut emergency unemployment benefits down from 99 weeks to 74 weeks (depending on the state).

And today, with the so-called "fiscal cliff" looming, Republicans want Barack Obama and Democrats to fire the bloodiest shots of all against Santa Claus. They want Democrats to riddle Social Security and Medicare with bullets.

With the help of the corporate media, Republicans have managed to create this false equivalency that says if taxes go up on the wealthiest 2% of Americans, then the rest of the nation has to suffer from deep budget cuts to social welfare programs, the unemployed need to get by with fewer benefits, and senior citizens have to work longer before they can qualify for Medicare. To them, this is what a "balanced approach" looks like.

Despite claims from the White House that Social Security is off the negotiating table, both President Obama and Vice President Biden have thrown support behind a sort of "grand bargain" like Simpson-Bowles that will leave the Republican Santa Claus that delivered low tax rates nicked by paper-cuts, but leave the Democratic Santa Claus a shot-up bloodied mess.

Recognizing what might be on the horizon, Progressive Senator Bernie Sanders said after the election, "We're going to send a loud message to the leadership in the House, in the Senate and President Obama. Do not cut Social Security, do not cut Medicare, do not cut Medicaid. Deficit reduction is a serious issue but it must be done in a way that is fair. We must not balance the budget on the backs of the elderly, the sick, the children or the poor." In other words, don't shoot the Democrat's Santa Claus to reduce the deficit.

What Bernie Sanders and other Progressives understand is Democrats haven't been playing Santa Claus for the last 80 years just to win elections. They've been playing Santa Claus to save the nation and our economic system as we know it. Faced with a Great Depression and Communist revolutions around the world, Roosevelt had to enact the New Deal just to save capitalism itself in America. Faced with the crisis of poverty in the 1960's and the hardships senior citizens were facing upon retirement, LBJ enacted the Great Society and Medicare – not because the people wanted "gifts" from Santa Claus, but because people needed help - and providing for the "general welfare" is, according to our Constitution, one of the main purposes for which our government itself was created.

And, despite what Limbaugh, O'Reilly, and other Cons say, providing student loan relief isn't a "gift," it's a necessity now that outstanding student loan debt has topped $1 trillion. Ensuring women have access to contraceptives isn't a "gift," it's a right. Proving undocumented workers with a pathway to citizenship isn't a "gift," it's the humane thing to do. And making sure impoverished children have healthcare isn't a "gift," it's the moral thing to do.

Americans have handed Democrats electoral victories through the decades because they want the sort of America that the Democratic Santa Claus offers, which is a "we" society that allows for a strong middle class and basic protections from old age, sickness, and unemployment. In other words, "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness."

Let's hope Democrats understand this fast, and don't fall for the Republican gimmick started by Jude Wanniski more than thirty years ago. Because right now, Santa Claus stands blindfolded before a firing squad and it's the Democrats, led by President Obama, who have been maneuvered by Republicans into a position to pull the trigger.

And if they do, then not only does the Democratic Santa Claus die. So too, does the Democratic Party itself, and alongside it, the American middle class.

Dr. F.

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 15, 2014 - 12:07pm PT
U.S. right wing extremists more deadly than jihadists

By Peter Bergen and David Sterman
7:43 PM EDT, Mon April 14, 2014

(CNN) -- On Sunday, a man shot and killed a 14-year-old boy and his grandfather at the Jewish Community Center of Greater Kansas City and then drove to a nearby Jewish retirement community where he shot and killed a third person. Police arrested a suspect, Frazier Glenn Cross, who shouted "Heil Hitler" after he was taken into custody.

Cross, who also goes by Frazier Glenn Miller, is a well-known right wing Christian extremist who founded the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and the White Patriot Party, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Now let's do the thought experiment in which instead of shouting "Heil Hitler" after he was arrested, the suspect had shouted "Allahu Akbar." Only two days before the first anniversary of the Boston Marathon bombings, this simple switch of words would surely have greatly increased the extent and type of coverage the incident received.

Peter BergenYet the death toll in the shootings in Kansas is similar to that of last year's Boston Marathon bombings, where three people were killed and the suspects later killed a police officer as they tried to evade capture. (Many more, of course, were also wounded in the Boston attacks; 16 men, women and children lost limbs.)

In fact, since 9/11 extremists affiliated with a variety of far-right wing ideologies, including white supremacists, anti-abortion extremists and anti-government militants, have killed more people in the United States than have extremists motivated by al Qaeda's ideology. According to a count by the New America Foundation, right wing extremists have killed 34 people in the United States for political reasons since 9/11. (The total includes the latest shootings in Kansas, which are being classified as a hate crime).

By contrast, terrorists motivated by al Qaeda's ideology have killed 23 people in the United States since 9/11.


Apr 15, 2014 - 12:11pm PT
So the latest cbo report on the ACA says it will cost the government less, cover more people, and reduce premiums compared to previous estimates.
Dr. F.

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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 15, 2014 - 12:14pm PT
You can only trust the CBO report if it gives cover to Republican Policies.
If not, then you know they are cooking the books to make Obama look good.
Never Trust the Gov.
Joe Republican
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