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Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Apr 11, 2014 - 05:45pm PT
JE - your comparable worth, comparatively speaking, depending on who is speaking reminds me of todays ruling here (BC) with the legal Eagles pro members board saying that a local Christian University can indeed go ahead and stamp and certify lawyers despite the fact the school demands that the students must submit to church doctrine contrary to civil law

Thou shalt not partake in pre marital sex period, and then if married thou shalt be women and man only

If caught you get the boot presumably. Interestingly the damn commie civil liberties association (an intervenor or something) agreed, idea being that no one is coerced, and more important once a lawyer there is adequate enforcement that the lawyer - regardless of personal bias - will not discriminate in carrying out their duty by force of professional conduct ethics. Religious freedom preserved and all that.

I also agree, as much just to be reasonable and i think the end result is as they say - largely no net discrimination is likely.

Except: It is tacit approval / acceptance of institutional imposed discrimination, required by religious dogma, in a very significant public realm (justice) that is entirely secular. It is a risk of cultural subversion, a branding exercise that elevates this particular christianity and it unique morality over all others as well as non religious secularism. The residual persistent bigotry remains, sort of like "don't ask don't tell".

Of course we also gave the damn Quebecois their own unique " more equal" status, as a suckhole to keep them from splitting off (tons of money too) so nothing new but at some point you'd think this "special status" stuff has got to end.

The way I look at it is all this religious stuff should stay in the church as far as proselytizing goes. Preach to the converted. We know where to find you if we want to convert and your rule book can stay there thanks. Go ahead and start a university too but if you're going to open the door like you like to pretend, then open it to the whole country. You either welcome us as the whole inclusive civil society, or don't at all.

And if you don't that says a lot for your ability to take risks to be inclusive, rather than isolationist to stay separate.

But I think thats not reality. Its best at this point to throw the churchies a bone, then us heathens take the risks, invade the university all stealth like and subvert from within. You know, recruit rather than convert. Start in science and work towards law. They can keep their political science department.

What do you think?
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 11, 2014 - 08:17pm PT
I guess this isn't surprising decor for propaganda minister Carney's kitchen.



Original source, this gushing puff piece.

http://www.washingtonian.com/mom/features/balancing-act/
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 11, 2014 - 08:23pm PT
While I have no doubt that relative salaries get discussed among co-workers, I never did so, and never thought it was a good idea to do so.

irrelevant to the legislation

you are not a women, get it yet?

you are not as likely to be paid the same as a male for the same work, get it yet?

your personal experience does not matter, you are not a women, get it yet?

hint;; it's not about you, it's not about you

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 11, 2014 - 08:27pm PT
I guess prince Barry doesn't get it either.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/09/white-house-pay-gap-twice-as-large-as-pay-gap-in-district-of-columbia/
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Apr 11, 2014 - 08:31pm PT
bookworm posted
i'll make my point clear: libs claim voter id laws are racist; clinton supports the idea but libs say nothing

Bookworm you don't have a clue what liberals say because you only read right wing propaganda site that TELL you what they want you to think liberals say. Your party has also painted anyone who doesn't score 100% on the Conservometer as a "liberal." Actual liberals openly scorn Hillary for her southern strategy campaign in 2008. Bill is still patching things up after his comments during that election. But really....






...who can stay mad a Slick Willie?


TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 11, 2014 - 08:32pm PT
The women he raped?
dirtbag

climber
Apr 11, 2014 - 08:43pm PT
Liar.^^^^^
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Apr 11, 2014 - 08:57pm PT
The women he raped?


No no you mean the families of all the people he murdered.
jammer

climber
Apr 12, 2014 - 02:50am PT
JELezarian, I don't in any way agree that requiring employers to not punish employees for discussing their salaries and requiring them to be transparent in how they dole out money in any way would strictly result in a bunch of whiny employees suing everyone for unfair compensation.

If it did, wouldn't that just be the market exacting it's large penalty on those who don't play by the rules? Wouldn't it open up markets for more competitive businesses that did a better job of making both their customers as well as their employees happy? Is it really the end of the world if a couple, or a bunch, of shitty employers get sued into non-existence?

Personally, I think such a thing would help markets run more smoothly. It would incentivize management to make decisions based on a mutually agreed upon (between them and their employees) criteria, so both employees and employers could operate with less day to day stress. I also bet people would be happier with the decisions that were made under those circumstances. I can't think of why this would be bad, except for the employers who happen to screw their employees...
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Apr 12, 2014 - 09:38am PT
even sadder than the incompetence of the administration is the complete lack of respect they have for those who support them...they think you're all a bunch of idiots...of course, you continue to support them despite repeated demonstrations of their monumental incompetence so...


jay carney wants you to think he's smart, but, apparently, he only owns five books, but, clearly he knows you're too stupid to notice multiple copies of the same five books filling his book shelf...in fact, his confidence in your fawning is so complete, he's sure you won't even notice that his kid's finger also appears on more than one shelf:


http://twitchy.com/2014/04/11/freaky-photoshop-disaster-jay-carney-puff-piece-goes-hilariously-wrong-pics/


i guess you should be flattered by the effort
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2014 - 10:12am PT
clearly he knows you're too stupid to notice multiple copies of the same five books filling his book shelf

Good point Booky
Sorry but I have to say it:
What a f-ing Moron

I have 5 of the same books on my bookshelf, the books I wrote,
does that make me stupid too?
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2014 - 10:14am PT
The Republicans are not creating a Free Market, they are maintaining a rigged Market
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Apr 12, 2014 - 10:16am PT
photo not found
Missing photo ID#310594
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2014 - 11:08am PT
Charles Krauthammer, Chief Paid Republican propagandist

The Washington Post columnist engages in pure dishonesty to hide from his readers what he does not want them to see

Glenn Greenwald
Who would pay someone to lie for them? <br/>
I guess his image says it all...
Who would pay someone to lie for them?
I guess his image says it all, Count Chocula, he works for the dark side.
Credit: Dr. F.

It’s anything but news that Charles Kruathammer is a rank propagandist, but his column today is particularly egregious, though quite illustrative of how these issues are discussed. He lambastes the Obama administration for what he calls its “absurd and embarrassing refusal . . . to acknowledge who out there is trying to kill Americans and why.” Krauthammer — needless to say and for reasons too obvious to require explanation — wants to claim that the True Cause of Terrorism is “radical Islam” by itself, and thus accuses the administration of dishonesty because it “has banned from its official vocabulary the terms jihadist, Islamist and Islamic terrorism.” His primary evidence is this recent statement of Faisal Shazhad, when he pleaded guilty to attempting the Times Square bombing: ”I consider myself a mujahid, a Muslim soldier.” See, Krauthammer argues, even Shazhad admits it was Islam that caused his Terrorism, so why can’t Obama admit it, too?

Except to make this accusation against Obama and Islam, Krauthammer hides from his readers what Shazhad actually said, because it completely negates his claim. When pleading guilty, Shazhad explained that his attempted bombing was in response to the violence and wars which the U.S. is perpetrating in the Muslim world, telling the court that violence aimed at Americans will continue unless and until the U.S. stops waging wars and spawning violence in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and other Muslim countries:

Well, the drone hits in Afghanistan and Iraq, they don’t see children, they don’t see anybody. They kill women, children, they kill everybody. It’s a war, and in war, they kill people. They’re killing all Muslims. . . .

I am part of the answer to the U.S. terrorizing the Muslim nations and the Muslim people. And, on behalf of that, I’m avenging the attack. Living in the United States, Americans only care about their own people, but they don’t care about the people elsewhere in the world when they die.

Shadzad was a Muslim the entire time when he was building a law-abiding, peaceful, middle-class American life over the last decade, but emails obtained by The New York Times reveal that he became increasingly angry and radicalized as a result of U.S. actions in the Muslim world: the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, drone attacks, Israeli violence against Palestinians and Muslims generally, Guantanamo and torture were among the policies against which he railed. In one email, Shazhad asked: “Can you tell me a way to save the oppressed? And a way to fight back when rockets are fired at us and Muslim blood flows?”

Krauthammer conceals all of that from his readers because that’s what dishonest propagandists do: he wants to incite Americans to hate Islam and blame it for Terrorism, and any evidence suggesting a causal relationship between U.S. policy and the anti-American sentiment that fuels it — including (though not only) U.S. support for Israeli violence — must be suppressed and ignored. Extremist versions of Islam certainly play a role in inducing some people to take up arms, but a desire for retribution against U.S. violence in that part of the world is unquestionably the perceived proximate cause for many, as Shazhad himself explained (and as accused Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hasan also made clear). Whatever else is true, if Krauthammer is going to cite Shazhad’s comments as evidence of the real cause of Terrorism, it’s inexcusable for him to deceive his readers about what Shazhad actually said.

Why is it so important to correct Krauthammer’s deceit and illuminate the acutal causes of Terrorism? Ironically, Krauthammer himself explained exactly why:


Why is this important? Because the first rule of war is to know your enemy. If you don’t, you wander into intellectual cul-de-sacs and ignore the real causes that might allow you to prevent recurrences.

Indeed. Aside from the truth issue, the Obama administration, purely as a strategic matter, is doing the right thing by avoiding casting the conflict in terms of Islam. Nothing bolsters the strength and recruitment efforts of violent, extremist groups than allowing them to depict the U.S. and Islam as enemies. But the truth issue is paramount: our refusal to recognize the causal relationship between our own actions and the Terrorism with which our political class is ostensibly obsessed ensures that it not only continues indefinitely but worsens as a direct result of what we do. As I wrote when discussing Shazhad’s court statements: “It’s really quite simple: if we continue to bring violence to that part of the world, then that part of the world — and those who sympathize with it — will continue to want to bring violence to the U.S.” This is the central fact that rarely rears its head in establishment discussions of Terrorism, and the principal reason for this self-defeating behavior is because of deceivers like Krauthammer, whose agenda is served by fabricating false causes while concealing the real ones.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Apr 12, 2014 - 02:48pm PT
Those pictures are from a magazine called Washingtonian Mom.

And they are clearly meant to be a serious portrayal of the family.

At least to idiots who don't get irony.

Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 12, 2014 - 02:59pm PT
TGT, Bookworm...I have no idea what you're talking about, but then, neither do you.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Apr 12, 2014 - 03:42pm PT
No you see they have soviet propaganda posters in their kitchen which shows that they are secret Communists planning to quietly overthrow America from within which is why they proudly display Communist propaganda in their kitchen as any good secret operative would.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 12, 2014 - 04:20pm PT
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 12, 2014 - 04:30pm PT
not enough times, TeaGeeTea!

he should crank it up more!

you and booky are pansies....Harry Reid has got you all Butt Hurt eh?

photo not found
Missing photo ID#353793
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 12, 2014 - 04:35pm PT
Yor propaganda minister's bookshelf is as blank as his intellect so they Photo Shopped it full.

LOL



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