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socialclimber

Trad climber
CA
Apr 2, 2014 - 11:43am PT
Jail the LGBT community that doesn't convert:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/03/31/jail-people-conversion-therapy/

Scroll to the bottom of the linked page to read the article about the woman who believes gay marriage causes tornadoes... spoiler alert: Republican...

Let me say this though, I don't think Republicans are all wrong, just most of their leaders and the pundits they listen to...

Charles
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2014 - 11:53am PT
Norton's red herrings cracked me up. Trying to blame the 2008 crash on the Republicans? That's just sad. You're lie of "15 million Americans lost their jobs" was a nice touch.
Sketch

I guess he is alot more ignorant than we gave him credit for (which was none), now he's moving backwards into rewriting history.

Obama wasn't President until Jan 21, 2009!!
Republicans were in Charge.
How could it be anyone other than BUSH and the Republicans?

All Sketch does is claim we are wrong when he is the one 100% wrong about every issue he points out. Another casualty of the Right Wing Media misinformation campaign.
Typical Republican, wrong about everything.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Apr 2, 2014 - 11:55am PT
Faux Noise does to history what Intelligent Design/Creationism does to Science.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 2, 2014 - 12:02pm PT
while you may disagree with me

I am never wrong about the facts

Sketch is just another in a long line of Repub base voters who doesn't bother with the facts

a half second google search would have told him I was absolutely correct, but no......
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Apr 2, 2014 - 12:04pm PT
JohnE...why do you vote republican??

I can give you at least 20 reasons why I vote democrat.


Tvash

climber
Seattle
Apr 2, 2014 - 12:07pm PT
Oh, to be never wrong about facts...

 sigh -
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Apr 2, 2014 - 12:15pm PT
BTW, NOVA aired and excellent documentary on the PA trial that kilt the Intelligent Design Movement. Watch Christians get their asses completely handed to them in court by ACLU attorneys:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/evolution/intelligent-design-trial.html

All the popular Christian junk science arguments - the evolution of the eyeball (a fave on ST), the flagellum, and more - nuked from space then used as a latrine by real live evolutionary biologists - not the match-book-cover kind.

It's not often you get to see ignorance so skillfully and politely shat upon by the scientific community. I swear I saw the ghostly visage of Bill Nye laughing maniacally in the background at several key junctures. You almost feel sorry for the losing side.

Almost.

And the best part? The judge was a Reagan appointee - GOP all the way.
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2014 - 12:25pm PT
It's easy to be correct about the facts
Just don't say anything you don't know the facts about
The facts can be found at the source of the information, Not the Fox spin, that's were facts go to die.

There are plenty of subjects that I know very little about, so I don't tell people that I know more that about these subjects than they do.


Why do people have the facts wrong?
Because Big Money special Interest Groups change the Facts (or information) into their misinformation sound bites to support their special interest.

That's what the Church has been doing for 2000 years now!
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 2, 2014 - 12:32pm PT
Oh, to be never wrong about facts...

yes, it is wonderful

and so very very easy to do.....
johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Apr 2, 2014 - 12:55pm PT
What is the proper term for a flock of trolls? Anyone?

It's the same thing as a flock of crows.
John M

climber
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:06pm PT
Ken M,

My thought process was to try and understand what it would take for the republican membership to understand what their party stands for and what would happen if they followed through with everything they want to do. I don't believe that it would be as bad as what you suggest, but I do believe that things would get worse before enough of them started to wake up.

Their current budget calls for even lower support for schools and a bigger military while cutting taxes. Here we go again. Didn't we just try that? So my thought was, what would it take for them to finally understand what that would create? I think Liberals would just have to fully cede control, and even then the republicans would still likely find something else to blame.
moosedrool

climber
lost, far away from Poland
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:06pm PT
Why is it called "intelligent design"?

Even I could design it better. And I am no god.

;)

Moose
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:13pm PT
"Didn't we just try that? "

Writing off that kind of perseveration as simple stoooopidity is a fool's errand...the Repub leadership is quite calculated in their strategy to repeatedly push agendas that have consistently failed (i.e. ACA repeal). At the very least, they instill a negative connotation in public opinion around the issue, which provides an opportunity to appear as though they actually have something to offer (no matter how empty that platform might be).
HermitMaster

Social climber
my abode
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:13pm PT
whitmen are monkeys
whitmen are monkeys
Credit: HermitMaster
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:15pm PT
Their current budget calls for even lower support for schools and a bigger military while cutting taxes. Here we go again. Didn't we just try that?

yes we did!

and it resulted in such a loss of revenue from the tax cuts and Iraq spending that trillions of dollars were added to the national debt

it resulted in a long term, structural annual deficit that continues to this day

but so what, as Dick Cheney said "Deficits don't matter, Reagan proved that"

the republican base voter absolutely owns the deficit and national debt and the collapse of the economy and recession of 2008, they own it by voting republican

don't ever, ever, permit them to make any comment about fiscal health, they failed, period
Sanskara

climber
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:17pm PT
John M

If that day ever comes I'm gonna go take up residence in a snow cave in patagonia.

F*#k if my aging mother and two dogs don't wanna come they can fend for them self.

The republican parties plan may be much the same as my new nasty ass f*#k head neighbor.

I think he figured out that two out of three of three neighbors that share property line with him can't stand him. So he is playing to our weakness by doing exactly those things that bother us the most to the umpteenth degree in hopes of driving us out.

Little does he know suffering is my thing and I don't quit. Now if the states ever go to the republicans for the likes of 20 years I am getting the f*#k outa Dodge..
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:18pm PT
got that, John E? Money=speech.

so both the poor and the rich are now allowed to contribute more than $74,500.

All men were created equal.

I don't think that's what the opinion said, because it did not strike down contribution limits to individual candidates. If money = speech, then those limits would have been stricken as well.

And Bob, I could give you at least 20 reasons to vote Republican and not to vote Democratic, but I can neither read the most recent SCOTUS opinion nor give you my reasons for and against the actions of the major political parties until at least after the weekend, because our older daughter is getting married Saturday, and She Who Must Be Obeyed would like to treat my escapes to work or the internet the same way a citizen of the Roman Empire would treat a runaway slave -- with crucifixion.

See -- or more accurately read -- you all next week.

John
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 2, 2014 - 01:30pm PT
don't ever, ever, permit them to make any comment about fiscal health, they failed, period
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Apr 2, 2014 - 02:05pm PT
Deficit spending just to improve "quality of life" is not sustainable. Deficit spending that is an investment in future productivity is worthwhile and sustainable.

It's not obvious how to differentiate though:
 How do we measure whether something is net productive as an investment? For example, should we pay to go to war over oil or other natural resources? Cheaper gasoline or computer parts and cheaper everything because of the related lower costs of transportation and equipment, vs. the cost of human deaths, fear of retribution from the world, ongoing need for vigilant military, and the "ghost tax" of government/corporate corruption that siphons off money to increase the wealth of the wealthiest people?
 Medical research is an investment for improving the lives of future generations... but is medical treatment an investment? If they are smart, young and working, yes... If they are old, uneducated, or unemployed, then its not a good economic return. And so we must decide how much are we willing to pay for our moral compunction to help others even if there is no economic benefit to doing so? This seems to be where we always get hung up. Some people care about others, some people don't.
 Education should be a "no-brainer" as an investment if the objective is to increase the assets of our country and improve the quality of our civilization. But, what about those who depend on widespread ignorance and willingness to die in wars? It seems they have more say than the average person in political decisions. And maybe our country actually has more net assets if we maintain a war-mongering philosophy and can exploit the wealth of those we threaten or tempt. But, what should matter more is our *median* assets, which I suspect benefit much less from wars than say our average assets (which are concentrated in wealthy hands).


OK, my work here is done. Slap me down if I post anything else on this thread in the next month!
moosedrool

climber
lost, far away from Poland
Apr 2, 2014 - 02:25pm PT
Medical research is an investment for improving the lives of future generations... but is medical treatment an investment? Where to draw the line for using government coffers to provide ever more expensive treatment options to individuals? The dreaded "death panel"....

Nut, I am struggling with this dilemma as well. I wouldn't like my family to spend their savings on my life support to extend my existence for one more week, for example. The hospitals routinely charge their dying patients (if they are insured, us) for treatments that prolong their lives for a few days. These patients are often so drugged they don't know what's going on. To be clear, I am not talking about the efforts to save somebody's life.

Andrzej
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