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k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Mar 14, 2013 - 06:19pm PT
I was watching C-SPAN late last night, Bernie Sanders was on, talking about budgets. All the GOP could offer was cuts, major cuts. Bernie got the mike and listed four things that got us into our current situation:

 Two wars put on the credit card ($1T +)
 Deregulation of Wall Street (which lead to the crisis, another $1T +)
 Medicare part D
 [shikes, I now forget the 4th]

Closing up, he noted that BoA opened over 200 accounts in the Cayman Islands and had some insane amount of tax-free money stashed there 9in the Billion$). Oh yeah, corporate greed, to the n-th. CEO pay vs. the average worker.

I'm soooo sick of the GOP "protect the rich" bullcrap.
jghedge

climber
Mar 14, 2013 - 07:06pm PT
"[shikes, I now forget the 4th]"


Bush tax cuts
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 14, 2013 - 07:27pm PT
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 14, 2013 - 09:31pm PT
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Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 14, 2013 - 10:37pm PT
We progressives need to be careful, running around spiking the ball.

At CPAC, I heard a description that they are convinced that they are just one good candidate away from resurgence.

They are right.

they hold the power in the House. They have a stranglehold on the Senate. They hold most Governorships. They hold many state legislatures, schoolboards, and other local positions.

They must not be counted out. What they need, is to be rooted out.

For that to happen, dems need to perform. Clearly, openly, publicly. And we need to talk about it.

The silent majority, that wins elections, the independents, and the non-ideological Repubs and Dems......they hate the circuses of talking heads....the Olbermans, Rachaels....the Rushes, the Glenns.

They pine for respectful reporting of good information, good news.
jghedge

climber
Mar 14, 2013 - 11:42pm PT
"The silent majority, that wins elections, the independents, and the non-ideological Repubs and Dems......they hate the circuses of talking heads....the Olbermans, Rachaels....the Rushes, the Glenns."

Sorry but Rachel Maddow doesn't deserve to be classed with Beck and Limbaugh, not even close, she hammered Obama literally more than anyone on drone strikes, hardly the action of a staunch partisan like Limbaugh...she's the closest thing we have to ER Murrow, and I've never heard anyone, even on the right, call her out on journalistic integrity

Probably the most startling demographic statistic from the 2012 election was that around 80% of Asian-Americans voted democrat. Not even I was aware of the degree of hard-core racial alienation caused by repubs that would engender numbers like that - this from a minority that doesn't suffer anywhere near the level of hatred and vilification blacks and hispanics are subject to from the right.

Turning that around would involve a lot more than just "one good candidate", I would think
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Mar 15, 2013 - 07:03am PT
ho-hum:

http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/207084/bidens-office-forces-reporter-to-delete-photos-apologizes/


lock reporter in closet: check

dismiss reporters from "question and answer" session with governors: check

give interviews to people magazine and "the pimp with a limp" but deny interviews with major news agencies: check

refuse FOIA requests: check

attack/threaten any news agency that criticizes policies: check

continue to designate yourself the "most transparent administration evah" and win adulation from media: check



winston smith is dead
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Mar 15, 2013 - 09:35am PT
why do libs hate immigrants so much?

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-mckibben-immigration-environment-20130314,0,7147668,print.story


to summarize: we can fix global warming by promoting illegal immigration, which will reduce the number of immigrant children


why do libs hate babies so much, especially immigrant babies?


winston smith is dead
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Mar 15, 2013 - 09:41am PT
idiotic "foreign policy" : check

unprecedented waste of taxpayers' money : check

hundreds of thousands of dead people : check

Lies and hypocrisy at every turn : check

Not a glimmer of remorse : check

Republicon wet dream : check


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/14/iraq-war-cost-more-than-2-trillion_n_2875493.html
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Mar 15, 2013 - 10:30am PT
why do libs hate doctors so much?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323628804578346614033833092.html?mod=rss_opinion_main


oh, wait, i know this one...because doctors are greedy (charging all that money just to heal people) and privileged (accepting medical degrees and licenses just because they're rich and white and republican) and uncaring (making sick people pay for services that only doctors--elitists!!!--can provide) and liars (since we all know the government can provide those same services cheaper, safer, and more efficiently) and haters (since any criticism of obama is racist)
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 15, 2013 - 10:54am PT
bookworm,

Did you know that in the UK, a straw man argument is called an "Aunt Sally" ?



philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 15, 2013 - 11:11am PT
Bookworm's posts are an Aunt Sally mixed with Maggie's Drawers.

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WBraun

climber
Mar 15, 2013 - 01:33pm PT
Yer all wrong!!!! We now live in THE fascist world


1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 15, 2013 - 02:58pm PT
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/03/15/koch-brothers-richer-by-9-billion-each-in-2012-obama-officially-worst-socialist-commie-nazi-ever/

Koch Brothers Richer By $9 Billion Each In 2012 – Obama Officially Worst Socialist Commie Nazi Ever

2013/03/15
By John Viall
The latest listing of the Forbes 400 should be out soon; and now we know why Charles and David Koch, and their lesser known brother Bill, have been so deeply concerned about the direction our country is heading. No wonder they donate tens of millions of dollars to all kinds of right-wing political causes. You can’t trick the Koch brothers. They know President Obama is a commie! That’s why the stock market is plunging.

What? How in god’s name has it gone up 8,000 points since a low in 2009?

Okay—well, what about when Mr. Obama pushed through that 3% tax increase on the wealthiest Americans? Don’t poor, hard-working folk like Charles and David and Bill deserve to hold on to every penny they’ve ever made, because they work harder than normal people and earn every cent by the sweat of their brows?

With communism on the march in America today, it’s no wonder Charles and David each increased his personal wealth by $9 billion last year, to $34 billion apiece.

(They probably make fun of their loser brother Bill when he’s not around. He’s an embarrassment with a personal fortune of only $4 billion.)

Yes, the brothers have had a very, very, very tough year. And the Black Boogie Man is still sitting in the Oval Office, waiting to get them.

There were 8,784 hours in 2012, counting February 29.

If we do the math, the hard-working Charles and the hard-working David each earned a little more than $1 million every hour, even while sleeping. To be exact, they were richer by $1,024,590 every time the big cuckoo clock in the hall struck off an hour. If David stepped into the shower for ten minutes he exited smelling fresher and richer by almost $171,000.

If he stopped to floss his teeth for sixty seconds he was $17,706 richer by the time he was done.

If Charles spent three-and-a-half hours on a Sunday afternoon, eating chips and dip and watching the Kansas City Chiefs play the San Diego Chargers, by the time he reached the bottom of the bowl he would be $3,586,065 richer. In the time he spent on the toilet at halftime—let’s say one minute, forty-five seconds—he made $29,884.

Well, you can’t put anything past these brothers. There are politicians in America, for example, who want to stir class warfare and raise the minimum wage to $9 per hour! Or give the working poor health coverage. Bah, these politicians are socialists or communists. No way can you expect hard-working people like the Koch brothers or the Walton family to pay higher wages! That’s class warfare, don’t you see? That’s a dirty, low-down attack on the rich, who work harder than average folks do.

An increase of a $1.25 per hour on the minimum wage means a worker who put in 2,000 hours a year would earn $2,500 more.

It would take David Koch roughly 9 seconds to earn that much.

Put it another way: we have to cut taxes, because hard-working billionaires are just getting killed; and if you don’t cut taxes they’ll never create good jobs again. (Don’t you watch Fox News?). Okay, sure, David Koch makes as much in one hour as twenty-five new first-grade teachers make in a year.

That’s because David works harder!

Charles made as much in one day in 2012 as 498 electricians—or 614 carpenters—made in all of 2012.

And didn’t Charles work harder, too?

Well, with communism just around the corner, or somewhere down the road, it’s hard to tell, since President Obama has now been in office for more than four years–well, let’s just hope the superrich can enjoy the ride while it lasts. In 2012, we know they did. Rounding out the list of the richest Americans we have:

Bill Gates: $67 billion

Warren Buffett: $53.5 billion

Larry Ellison: $43 billion (up $7 billion in 2012)

Charles Koch

David Koch

Christy Walton: $28.2 billion

Michael R. Bloomberg: $27 billion

Jim Walton: $26.7 billion

Sheldon Adelson: $26.5 billion (so donating at least $53 million to GOP campaigns in 2012 didn’t kill him.)

Alice Walton: $26.3 billion

Robson Walton: $26.1 billion

Jeff Bezos: $25.2 billion

Larry Page: $23 billion

Of course, we all know the problem in America is greedy workers—and greedy union workers, like cops and plumbers and the men and women who work at Caterpillar and Hostess (now closed) are the worst! (Again, don’t you watch Fox News?) And what about those Wal-Mart employees trying to organize and demand higher wages and benefits!

Communism, I tell you.
jghedge

climber
Mar 15, 2013 - 03:13pm PT

House Appropriations Chair Takes Down Republican Budget: It ‘Cuts Too Much’

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/03/15/1724941/rogers-republican-budget/


“I’ll be voting for it. It’s not exactly to my liking. There are a lot of things that I’m not happy with, including the overall big number,” he said. “It cuts too much spending, frankly, from the discretionary side of the budget. Most people don’t realize that we only appropriate 1/3 of federal spending … and we’ve cut that by $100 billion over the last two years.“


Hahahahaha

Repub Appropriations Chair Admits Spending Has Already Been Cut By $100 Billion

Not to mention the fact that Kentucky, where Rogers is from, owes its very existence to the federal gov't through Red State Socialism, and that he himself represents the second poorest congressional district in the US.


Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 15, 2013 - 07:33pm PT
After the Flimflam

By PAUL KRUGMAN

Published: March 14, 2013 NY Times

It has been a big week for budget documents. In fact, members of Congress have presented not one but two full-fledged, serious proposals for spending and taxes over the next decade.

Before I get to that, however, let me talk briefly about the third proposal presented this week — the one that isn’t serious, that’s essentially a cruel joke.

Way back in 2010, when everybody in Washington seemed determined to anoint Representative Paul Ryan as the ultimate Serious, Honest Conservative, I pronounced him a flimflam man. Even then, his proposals were obviously fraudulent: huge cuts in aid to the poor, but even bigger tax cuts for the rich, with all the assertions of fiscal responsibility resting on claims that he would raise trillions of dollars by closing tax loopholes (which he refused to specify) and cutting discretionary spending (in ways he refused to specify).

Since then, his budgets have gotten even flimflammier. For example, at this point, Mr. Ryan is claiming that he can slash the top tax rate from 39.6 percent to 25 percent, yet somehow raise 19.1 percent of G.D.P. in revenues — a number we haven’t come close to seeing since the dot-com bubble burst a dozen years ago.

The good news is that Mr. Ryan’s thoroughly unconvincing policy-wonk act seems, finally, to have worn out its welcome. In 2011, his budget was initially treated with worshipful respect, which faded only slightly as critics pointed out the document’s many absurdities. This time around, quite a few pundits and reporters have greeted his release with the derision it deserves.

And, with that, let’s turn to the serious proposals.

Unless you’re a very careful news reader, you’ve probably heard about only one of these proposals, the one released by Senate Democrats. And let’s be clear: By comparison with the Ryan plan, and for that matter with a lot of what passes for wisdom in our nation’s capital, this is a very reasonable plan indeed.

As many observers have pointed out, the Senate Democratic plan is conservative with a small “c”: It avoids any drastic policy changes. In particular, it steers away from draconian austerity, which is simply not needed given ultralow U.S. borrowing costs and relatively benign medium-term fiscal projections.

True, the Senate plan calls for further deficit reduction, through a mix of modest tax increases and spending cuts. (Incidentally, the tax increases still fall well short of those called for in the Bowles-Simpson plan, which Washington, for some reason, treats as something close to holy scripture.) But it avoids large short-run spending cuts, which would hobble our recovery at a time when unemployment is still disastrously high, and it even includes a modest amount of stimulus spending.

So we could definitely do worse than the Senate Democratic plan, and we probably will. It is, however, an extremely cautious proposal, one that doesn’t follow through on its own analysis. After all, if sharp spending cuts are a bad thing in a depressed economy — which they are — then the plan really should be calling for substantial though temporary spending increases. It doesn’t.

But there’s a plan that does: the proposal from the Congressional Progressive Caucus, titled “Back to Work,” which calls for substantial new spending now, temporarily widening the deficit, offset by major deficit reduction later in the next decade, largely though not entirely through higher taxes on the wealthy, corporations and pollution.

I’ve seen some people describe the caucus proposal as a “Ryan plan of the left,” but that’s unfair. There are no Ryan-style magic asterisks, trillion-dollar savings that are assumed to come from unspecified sources; this is an honest proposal. And “Back to Work” rests on solid macroeconomic analysis, not the fantasy “expansionary austerity” economics — the claim that slashing spending in a depressed economy somehow promotes job growth rather than deepening the depression — that Mr. Ryan continues to espouse despite the doctrine’s total failure in Europe.

No, the only thing the progressive caucus and Mr. Ryan share is audacity. And it’s refreshing to see someone break with the usual Washington notion that political “courage” means proposing that we hurt the poor while sparing the rich. No doubt the caucus plan is too audacious to have any chance of becoming law; but the same can be said of the Ryan plan.

So where is this all going? Realistically, we aren’t likely to get a Grand Bargain any time soon. Nonetheless, my sense is that there is some real movement here, and it’s in a direction conservatives won’t like.

As I said, Mr. Ryan’s efforts are finally starting to get the derision they deserve, while progressives seem, at long last, to be finding their voice. Little by little, Washington’s fog of fiscal flimflam seems to be lifting.
Bharata

Mountain climber
Pune
Mar 15, 2013 - 07:44pm PT
the very lawfull obama liberal pirate code : those that fall behind are left behind except those who can pay him $500k for an audience. Hahaaaa!

Conservatives is so naive about how our world functions.

Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Mar 15, 2013 - 07:46pm PT
Werner, right on.
jghedge

climber
Mar 15, 2013 - 08:18pm PT
"Conservative, people who have money and don't want to give it to lazy liberals."

Cozzy - please. Liberalism doesn't get any more liberal than being in a Hollywood trade union.

You might as well have the hammer and sickle tattooed on your forehead.
Bharata

Mountain climber
Pune
Mar 15, 2013 - 08:36pm PT
I can agree with our great peer jghedge 100% as usual!

When the lazy liberals are given free money to live they will immediately find jobs and work hard and no longer be a giant burden to the American budget! Obvious and logical.



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