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HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 31, 2014 - 06:15pm PT
The data does not comport with my chosen reality and therefore must be invented!
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 31, 2014 - 06:22pm PT
Aha! The GOP candidate will be Jeb:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/influential-republicans-working-to-draft-jeb-bush-into-2016-presidential-race/2014/03/29/11e33b06-b5f2-11e3-8cb6-284052554d74_story.html?tid=pm_politics_pop

His if he wants it, and he appears to be making the rounds that are necessary.
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2014 - 09:04pm PT
Dale Schultz: The forgotten GOP support for voting rights

John Nichols: March 25, 2014 4:50 am

http://host.madison.com/news/opinion/column/john_nichols/john-nichols-dale-schultz-stephanie-miller-and-the-forgotten-gop/article_02642ebe-e15b-5358-abee-46f9948531a0.html

When state Sen. Dale Schultz, R-Richland Center, denounced his fellow Republicans for cutting the number of hours when Wisconsinites can vote, the attention was on his declaration that “I am not willing to defend them anymore."

And his explanation that GOP efforts to make voting more difficult are "all predicated on some belief there is a massive fraud or irregularities, something my colleagues have been hot on the trail for three years and have failed miserably at demonstrating."

And his observation that “it’s just sad when a political party has so lost faith in its ideas that it’s pouring all of its energy into election mechanics. We should be pitching as political parties our ideas for improving things in the future rather than mucking around in the mechanics and making it more confrontational at the voting sites and trying to suppress the vote.”

But one of the most striking comments by Schultz in his interview on 92.1 FM’s “Devil’s Advocates” program was a reference to something Republicans should be proud of: their party's legacy as the champion of voting rights.

The "party of Lincoln" was not just on the right side of history in the mid-19th century, when it became a political vehicle of the abolitionist movement and of the Radical Republican struggle for reconstruction. A century later, the Grand Old Party was still in the forefront of the struggle, as Schultz noted when he spoke of embracing "the spirit of the champion of the 1957 voting rights act."

Recalling the vital democratic work of "encouraging voting" and "making voting easier," Schultz said, "Back in 1957 with the leadership of Dwight Eisenhower, Republicans were doing that."

The 1957 Civil Rights Act was the first piece of meaningful civil rights legislation to be enacted after the end of the post-Civil War Reconstruction period. It broke the gridlock in Washington when it came to the question of voting rights and sent a powerful signal at a critical moment — after the Supreme Court’s Brown v. Board of Education decision on the integration of public schools, at a point when Southern Democrats were engaging in massive resistance to desegregation, and when a new generation of civil rights campaigners was confronting the legacy of Jim Crow.

It was a Republican president, Dwight Eisenhower, who proposed legislation to make real the promise of voting rights for African-Americans in the South. To be sure, Northern Democrats were as ardent as the Republicans in supporting the measure; but Southern Democrats were aggressive foes. Sen. Strom Thurmond, D-S.C., filibustered for 24 hours to block the bill. Southern Democrats, who controlled key committees, demanded compromises that weakened the legislation. Yet it was ultimately enacted and, though far too limited in its scope, the measure outlined prohibitions against the intimidation of voters based on their race, created a Commission on Civil Rights to chronicle barriers to voting rights, and established the position of assistant attorney general for civil rights — the first step toward the development of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division.

In both the Senate and House most of the support for this groundbreaking legislation came from Republicans. All 43 Senate Republicans backed the Civil Rights Act; only 29 Democrats joined them, while 18 Democrats voted “no.” In the House, 167 Republicans voted “yes,” while just 19 opposed the measure; on the Democratic side, the split was far closer, with 118 Democratic “yes” votes and 107 Democratic “no” votes.

Among the Republicans who voted “yes” — not just on final passage but in the key subcommittee and committee stages of the process — was New York Congressman William E. Miller. Miller would go on to serve as Republican National Committee chairman (the job now occupied by Reince Priebus) and to become Barry Goldwater’s vice presidential running mate on the 1964 Republican ticket. Like Goldwater, he was on the right of the party; The New York Times called Miller “an acid-tongued extremely conservative Republican.” Yet the man who as a young lawyer was part of the team that prosecuted Nazi war criminals at Nuremburg had no taste for those who would divide countries along lines of race and religion.

During the debate about the civil rights legislation, Miller referenced lessons learned at Nuremburg and spoke to the House as “one who all my life has … believed fundamentally in the proposition of civil rights.” Miller was a partisan Republican and an ideological conservative. But he was, as well, an independent thinker and a man of principle — very much like Dale Schultz.

We don’t know for certain if Miller, who died in 1983, would agree with Schultz’s assertion about the contemporary Republican Party that “it’s just sad when a political party has so lost faith in its ideas that it’s pouring all of its energy into election mechanics. We should be pitching as political parties our ideals for improving things in the future rather than mucking around in the mechanics and making it confrontational at the voting sites and trying to suppress the vote.”

But we do know what the late congressman’s daughter, Stephanie Miller, says. A popular radio personality, Miller’s a progressive, Miller gets serious when she talks about what has become of her father’s party — of which she says: “All they do is fearmonger and divide people. They play to people’s worst instincts.”

“I still contend to this day that (William Miller) and Barry Goldwater would just be appalled at what’s happened to their party,” says Stephanie Miller.

Certainly, Dale Schultz is appalled.

There is nothing in the honorable heritage of the Republican Party, nothing in the great tradition of honest conservatism, to justify voter suppression. Indeed, what the current leaders of the Republican Party are doing — in Wisconsin and elsewhere — is appallingly at odds with that heritage and that tradition. This is what Dale Schultz is saying. And he is right to do so.


Read more: http://host.madison.com/news/opinion/column/john_nichols/john-nichols-dale-schultz-stephanie-miller-and-the-forgotten-gop/article_02642ebe-e15b-5358-abee-46f9948531a0.html#ixzz2xamADEj1
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2014 - 10:40pm PT
Credit: Dr. F.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 31, 2014 - 10:42pm PT
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 31, 2014 - 11:24pm PT
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Missing photo ID#351640
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Apr 1, 2014 - 12:33am PT
The war of the .gifs is super boring. Post some actual content.


The deadline for beginning your enrollment application passed 30 minutes ago and we achieved the original pre-website cockup goal of 7 million. Makes me wonder if we couldn't have gotten 10 million if there hadn't been all the bad experiences/press with the initial sign ups.

http://acasignups.net/

WBraun

climber
Apr 1, 2014 - 02:26am PT
This thread is dead and full of sterile politards lost in a rut ......
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Apr 1, 2014 - 10:14am PT
AP
April 1, 2014 8:12 AM ET
Republican Congressional Leaders reveal their agenda.
By MARK HERMAN,

During a short press conference this morning Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and House Speaker John Boehner made the following joint announcement.

The Republican Congressional agenda is to make Obama & the Democrats fail, by making America fail.

Our politics have been simple------and sick, and un-American. We are very pleased that many good people are sad, since the current Republican priority is to make America & Americans suffer as much as possible, blame it on the Democrats, and then win the next election.

It may seem dumb and self-defeating to some of you out there in America, but our chief financial supporters, and the collection of poor-white conservatives that our party is currently exploiting, are on board and back us wholeheartedly.

Thank you for your support!
Mitch McConnel & John Boehner tell Americans how it is.
Mitch McConnel & John Boehner tell Americans how it is.
Credit: Fritz
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 1, 2014 - 11:37am PT
They don't need any help with failure.

They manage well enough in that department all by themselves.



HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Apr 1, 2014 - 11:45am PT
If this is failure I'll take it. 7 million sign ups even with website problems, obstruction by Republicans and a massive misinformation and slander campaign? It took decades for all states to sign on to the original Medicaid. It took years to get Medicare functioning decently and it needed tweaks and corrections just to get us to where we are now. This isn't a perfect system by any stretch and it further scleroses the waste associated with private insurance but it's a hell of a lot better than the system we had.
dirtbag

climber
Apr 1, 2014 - 12:07pm PT
God bless Ted Cruz for trying to scrap it.
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2014 - 12:12pm PT
More than 9.5 million have Health Care insurance now for the first time in their lives.

What was the Republican plan again?
Deny, lie and screw your customers out of coverage
How did that work out?

More denial....
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Apr 1, 2014 - 12:47pm PT
I only wish Bangladeshis could vote in American elections.

50 million of them will need to move house by 2050 as the sea level rise that is clearly a hoax crafted by the scientific community begins to auto-wash their kitchen floors for them.

50 million people. And that's just one country.

Ironically, the carbon footprint of the average Bangladeshi is among the lowest on the planet.

apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Apr 1, 2014 - 12:50pm PT
Now we just need to pay attention to those scumbag insurance companies and make sure they actually provide coverage for the care we think we're insured for.
moosedrool

climber
lost, far away from Poland
Apr 1, 2014 - 12:55pm PT
"WASHINGTON—Cautiously maneuvering the animal above Congressional chambers as a chorus of snarls and growls erupted from below, U.S. Capitol handlers carried out routine legislative feeding procedures this morning by lowering a live cow onto the floor of the House of Representatives. “All right, chow time!” shouted a feeding supervisor, who lowered the 800-pound heifer into the baying horde of lawmakers and then waited around 30 seconds for the sounds of panic and gnashing teeth to die down before lifting the animal’s skeletonized remains back up from the floor. “Let’s bring ’er up, fellas. Whoo-weee! Looks like they were hungry today, yes sir!” At press time, sources reported the blood-soaked legislators had resumed their scheduled hearing on H.R. 3193."

http://www.theonion.com/articles/live-cow-lowered-onto-floor-of-us-house-of-represe,35223/
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Apr 1, 2014 - 12:56pm PT
We should probably do something - anything - substantive domestically before applying pressure in any form. This is going to be difficult until one particular party packs up the Esplanade, leaves Bibleland, and takes a brief vacation in Reality.

I fully expect, however, that such a vacation will be scrapped in favor of yet another chorale presentation of the Asset Strippers braying KEY-STONE! KEY-STONE! KEY-STONE!

It's performance art at this point. Don't judge.

China's aggregate GHG emissions are only slightly higher than the US. The average American emits 3x what the average Chinese does, however.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Apr 1, 2014 - 01:05pm PT
We have 300% more to go to be no par, on a per capita basis, with the average Chinese.

What's the message - we're done, here?

Does this call for 320 million free "I'm With Awesome" (arrow pointed inward) T shirts?

We've barely begun to address our GHG emissions here in America. Not even close.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Apr 1, 2014 - 01:12pm PT
Yeah, we can afford to ruin the planet, though. That won't affect our economy. Oh, and if China won't play, we won't either. Now THAT is the kind of leadership we've come to know and love in this country.

Jesus. That argument. It's a perpetual excuse to continue to do nothing and nothing more. It's also bullsh#t, even in the near term.


Welcome to the Newspeak America.

BECAUSE WE'RE THAT AWESOME.

But, after all, the agenda for Asset Strippers is precisely that - to do nothing. There is zero intention within the Party of Deniers to do anything at all about global warming. Quite the opposite - their efforts to deregulate that arena continue at pace.

KEY-STONE! KEY-STONE! KEY-STONE!
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2014 - 01:16pm PT
Tvash, Alwyshere or whatever he is going by today is a troll

Don't induge him in his quest to make you look foolish
He was banned yesterday using another name

Thetool's worst enemy = Dr. F

We call him faTTy, but his real name is fattrad of Jeff Elfont

BFF, Dr. F and faTTy at Facelift
BFF, Dr. F and faTTy at Facelift
Credit: Dr. F.
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