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apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Mar 24, 2014 - 01:51pm PT
"If a Republican reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh."


Got your email today, eh, TGT?

Your cut & paste skills are always soooo impressive.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Mar 24, 2014 - 01:56pm PT
The little man TGT shows up just to prove my point.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Mar 24, 2014 - 02:02pm PT
I'm not sure how the Fearmongering poster nor the list of tired, stereotyped strawmen makes the world a better place or informs the discussion.

American's claim to be exhausted from today's polarized politics, but our actions indicate that we actually revel in it. It's like a bad marriage where you can't afford to get separate living arrangements.

I teach climbing to adults and teens. I've observed a few instructors attempt to employ punishment as a motivator - mainly fear. "You just killed your entire rope team!" I heard one say. This turns students off to that particular instructor - it accomplishes little else.

The most effective instructors find common ground with the student - something the student is doing right, and build on that. Honey v vinegar and all that.

If we are to de-polarize our politics, we need to find that common ground, build trust, and take on ever more controversial problems together.

Surveillance, Climate Change, and Health Care are three areas that constitute threats to all of us. There is broad consensus across political boundaries that Big Brother is not the kind of society we want. Climate deniers are going the way of Flat Earthers - no one in this new world of Big Data who wants to be taken seriously by their fellows is going to take on all of science these days. Finally, the reality that the ACA is here to stay in settling in to even the it's most stalwart opponents - who are increasingly realizing that Single Payer was the desired solution to spiraling costs and the rapacious behavior of greedy doctors and insurance companies all along.

These are problems we can work together on, even if that seems impossible right now.

I don't need to read any more about the Republican Mind than I have already. I'm in the trenches trading fire already with regards to creating public policy and legislation. But politics is the art of compromise, and thank Dog for that, because the alternative is to either do nothing or start killin', neither of which is an attractive problem solving methodology.

So often I find the most vocal and extreme positions on any side are from people who are completely uninvolved in the political advocacy process in any way. (Narcissist out there may now inject their name in the spot marked TARGET: ___ provided.) Lots of spraying - ie, making individuals 'look stoopit', and not a lot of volunteering or donating.

It's hard to dehumanize the 'other side' so much when you actually have to try to persuade them to vote for your issue.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Mar 24, 2014 - 02:30pm PT
It's hard to dehumanize the 'other side' so much when you actually have to try to persuade them to vote for your issue.

^^^^^^

Truth.

John
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Mar 24, 2014 - 02:36pm PT
If we are to de-polarize our politics, **we need to find that common ground, build trust, and take on ever more controversial problems together.
**
Surveillance, Climate Change, and Health Care are three areas that constitute threats to all of us. There is broad consensus across political boundaries that Big Brother is not the kind of society we want. Climate deniers are going the way of Flat Earthers - no one in this new world of Big Data who wants to be taken seriously by their fellows is going to take on all of science these days. Finally, the reality that the ACA is here to stay in settling in to even the it's most stalwart opponents - who are increasingly realizing that Single Payer was the desired solution to spiraling costs and the rapacious behavior of greedy doctors and insurance companies all along.

Too funny.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 24, 2014 - 02:40pm PT
I'm not sure how the Fearmongering poster nor the list of tired, stereotyped strawmen makes the world a better place or informs the discussion.

They are not designed to do that.

They are trolls. Their goal is to generate a reaction to their post. Nothing else. If there are many, many outraged responses, they feel their day is made, because in their mind, they have demonstrated control over other people. They have controlled the minds of their opponents.

This is why you never seen anything that could be considered "discussion" from these posters. They only throw stinkbombs designed to generate a response, then never respond to the responses. They are not interested in a discussion, supporting the suppositions in their posts, or informing others of the basis of their posted positions.

Just trolls.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Mar 24, 2014 - 02:45pm PT
Informative, Factual, Funny, Original, Beautiful, Insightful, Amazing

These are not bad criteria to strive for with regards to one's posts.

"I-FFOBIA" for you double entendre/mnemonic freaks out there.

If you consistently score low here, take stock on how you're spending your time and what value that offers anyone.

HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 24, 2014 - 03:09pm PT
http://www.buzzfeed.com/johnstanton/some-republicans-see-racism-as-a-factor-in-immigration-stale


Breaking news: Many Republicans oppose immigration reform because of issues with race. Countdown to a "you know who the real racists are " bookworm rebuttal post.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 24, 2014 - 03:27pm PT
yes!

because 150 years ago Lincoln was a Republican

and it was the Democrats who shut down the government

Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 24, 2014 - 03:38pm PT
If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.

Until he gets caught in the men's restroom.

BTW, I didn't see abortion on your list.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 24, 2014 - 03:43pm PT
Coz

I appreciate very much your generous offer to visit and hang out at your home

unfortunately as I have another spine procedure next month I won't be mobile enough

but thank you!
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Mar 24, 2014 - 03:51pm PT
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca

Mar 24, 2014 - 11:40am PT

They are not designed to do that.

They are trolls. Their goal is to generate a reaction to their post. Nothing else. If there are many, many outraged responses, they feel their day is made, because in their mind, they have demonstrated control over other people. They have controlled the minds of their opponents.

This is why you never seen anything that could be considered "discussion" from these posters. They only throw stinkbombs designed to generate a response, then never respond to the responses. They are not interested in a discussion, supporting the suppositions in their posts, or informing others of the basis of their posted positions.

Just trolls.

The general sentiment seems to be the only bad trolls are on the other side of the fence... and they deserve wholesale condemnation.

Trolls on "my side" are simply interjecting a little good-hearted humor. Nothing wrong with that. People who take offense need to lighten up.

No hypocrisy here. No double standard.

Move along folks.

And to you trolls across the fence... f%ck off and die, you low-life douchebag, lying, weaselly cowards!!!!!!!!!!!
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Mar 24, 2014 - 04:20pm PT
It would be an interesting exercise for posters here to evaluate their own last 20 posts based on the aforementioned I-FFOBIA criteria - which are, after all, politically neutral, and see how they score themselves versus how a sampling of other posters might score them for the same sampling.

The overall question is - how much value, of any kind, do you offer a thread, a forum, or a website, or are you more of troll/one-trick-pony?

Not a questions frequent posters often like to ask themselves apparently.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Mar 24, 2014 - 04:25pm PT
I am blessed by the Valkyries in that way, deserved or not.

Not to rub it in or anything.

If I wasn't, I'd try to do something about it.

Regarding the data thing - more information is better than less, to a point, anyway.

I fully understand why some would not want to take the challenge, though. They tend to self identify pretty quickly whenever the shocking idea of feedback is floated.

Write TRs and feedback comes with the territory, though. It's just another part of life. No big damn deal.
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Mar 24, 2014 - 04:30pm PT
all that glitters is not gold:

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Premium-Health-Exchange-plan-not-so-premium-as-user-thought-251614801.html


close enough for government work, huh, libs?



just wait until next year, right, libs?

http://theweek.com/article/index/258516/4-reasons-obamacare-premiums-will-rise-next-year


Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Mar 24, 2014 - 07:31pm PT
Booky, no doubt Obummercare is a mess. But republicans seemingly want an even worse system, one in which tens of millions remain uninsured because insurance is prohibitively expensive, and those who can pay must mortgage their futures, and the financial security of their children, to line the pockets of politically connected docs, hospital corporations, litigators, pharm companies, and health insurance companies. I'm usually a libertarian, but in this instance free markets will never work. The only thing that will is a single payer, meaning government run, system.

When was the last time you paid a fire fighting insurance premium? End of discussion.
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Mar 24, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
barry's solution to "job lock"?

unemployment lock: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101518602


hopenchange
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 24, 2014 - 08:21pm PT
bookworm your posts are literally incoherent at this point. Ron is making more salient comments with terrible grammar and insane punctuation.
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Mar 24, 2014 - 08:21pm PT
most transparent administration...evah!

http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/244525/risen-obama-administration-is-this-generations-greatest-enemy-of-press-freedom/


hopenchange
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 24, 2014 - 08:23pm PT
Oh look I'm right in the middle of a fierece bookworm blog-skim copy/paste-athon.
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