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philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 9, 2014 - 01:13pm PT
Foreign influence propelling murder rates in America.
Hahahaha lol good one I got the sarcasm that time.

Next time to avoid confusion you should employ the "obvious sarcasm" emoticon.
;-)
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Mar 9, 2014 - 01:21pm PT
No you failed. That part was NOT sarcasm.. I could post three more foreign murderers and their cases in NV - on my news page this am.

One in Vegas, a trail of a woman accused of killing her brothers wife and unborn child by knife for instance. Funny i know.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Mar 9, 2014 - 01:22pm PT
What's next is: Soylent Green is people.

Meanwhile, in the real world, Crimea appears to be headed for an Independence Referendum.

Given the arrangement of the chess board there, the US might have made the same call Putin did. I mean, we have invaded numerous countries in our own hemisphere when our interests called for it and the chess board looked amenable, so that's probably a reasonable assumption.

There really isn't much the US can do other than some temporary sanctions to punch that dance card prior to acceptance of the new situ. A Reagan clone would be faced with the same lack of negotiating leverage.

Now think of the interests of the actual players. Putin gets a Black Sea Port and an expansion of their energy empire, plus some showcasing of Russia's military comeback after their somewhat less-than-relaxing vacation in Afghanistan. They know we're done with war for a while, plus that's never really an option between the two of us, and everyone knows that.

Backwards Crimea, home of the Hatfieldinskis and McCoyanskas, gets to become a Russian vassal - with all Russian subsidies that go with it.

Ukraine gets to lose those hillbillianskis, which should make its drive to modernity easier, and it has other ports. I mean, after all, how many American's wouldn't celebrate a modern cessation of certain states?

In the end, everybody in the region gets a toy. Nattering NATO gets to eat Russia's new strategic reach, and the US isn't too happy about that, but they'll get over it after a bit more face saving bluster. After all, its pretty much a done deal already.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Mar 9, 2014 - 01:26pm PT
Accurate imo^^^^^^100%.. And how many wars , skirmishes and fights has that region been engaged in since ohhh say 1700.?
WBraun

climber
Mar 9, 2014 - 01:30pm PT
See Tvash's post ^^^

With just some simple basic intelligence a person can write something informative that's intelligent.

Not that we get the same stupid narrow minded drool from philo Dr F and a stupid Norton photo of himself running around on a lawn.
bergbryce

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Mar 9, 2014 - 01:30pm PT
Agreed on Crimea. The Crimeans appear to want to be Russian more than Ukrainian, from what I can tell. A democratic vote should settle it, and sabers (and bull whips) can remain sheathed.
So when can we have a referendum on giving Texas back to Mexico?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Mar 9, 2014 - 01:33pm PT
Right after MOST of CALIFORNIA goes back to mexico. HAH!
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Mar 9, 2014 - 01:36pm PT
Some people are attracted to mayhem - they fill their reading with mothers who drown their kids, Stihl-style plastic surgery - in short, they fill their mental garden with ugly.

This stuff happens, sure, but why seek it out as opposed to filling one's hours with something more positive and relevant to one's own life?

I used to read FOX every day to catch all viewpoints, but I stopped for two reasons:

It's ugly. Just skimming it makes a person's life a little bit worse. FOX really bottom feeds for it in a way Jerry Springer can only envy.

It's formulaic and repetitive. Mother drowns kid in a Home Depot bucket. Global warming hoax article. Fake political issue to get extreme mileage out of so no actual journalism is needed - Benghazi! Caulk with Celebrity train wreck update, a Teacherz or Unionz Eat Their Dead piece, a Shame a Democrat piece, a weird science piece (warp drive!). Every once in a while, though, the science piece is real - a strange break from the bullsh#t.

Read it for 3 weeks straight and you never really need to check in with FOX ever again - there won't be anything new.

I know its not journalism - and I have to believe many, if not most, of its readership knows that, too, at some level. But it's a great place for people with limited personal power to go and read headlines with manz man words like 'smack down' and 'ripped'.

Come to to think of it, there's a strong gay sadomasochism undercurrent happening there - male and lez, - NTTAWWT. It's kind of like the Eastern WA rodeo I went to a few years back - complete with iron on Wranglers accented all those tight cowboy tooshes, bullriding, a massage tent, and YMCA blaring on the tinny sound system. All lost on the locals - but not on the gay dood I attended with. A new rodeo fan was born that day.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Mar 9, 2014 - 01:42pm PT
Tvash your predisposed feelings are showing,, what about the lefts wingnut sites and channels.. Its CLEARLY both. BOTH i tell you.

And both partys be liars and thieves. That too is clear.

But its far too late to ask for common ground. Wont happen in my life time, and id bet it gets far worse.

We are a young country that is OVER DUE for a drastic event - if history of other countries and their developments are any indicator. Seeing some of the coverage of our natl govt these days looks like England of old.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Mar 9, 2014 - 01:51pm PT
The lefty stuff isn't ugly. It's mostly humorous (Stewart, Colbert, Maher). And those shows actually deal with the imporant issues of our day - not carnival freaks doing bad things to other carnival freaks gleaned from every small town paper in America. The latter is FOXs bread and butter - because those who choose to tune in hunger for a train wreck that's actually larger than the one that is their own life.

For his part, Maher has people of all political stripes on his show. He doesn't pull any punches, but he's respectful of his guests. He's gracious. One senses that they are friends.

Contrast that with FOX - which abuses theirs. It's uncivil, ugly, and predictably not informative. It's a shout down with a chest mike.

Look, the shittiness of FOX has been well established - I'm not going to belabor the obvious. There are plenty of conservative rags that practice journalism to some standard. Unfortunately, America's innernut conservatives read them little and reference them even less, I've found.

Don't get me wrong - this hasn't exactly been a quality last 3 pages on this forum from any side.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Mar 9, 2014 - 01:55pm PT
The obvious is that washington does all it can to see this whole "argument" festers. Yes?

I point to Obamas "That could have been me" speech, in comparison to MLK and his "i have a dream speech"...Ahem...

Tvash

climber
Seattle
Mar 9, 2014 - 01:58pm PT
Attempting to know 'motivation' is a loser's game. You can't know that. All you can know is the action - decisions and statements - and go from there.

I never pretend to know 'motivation' for action. I can speculate, sure, but I don't set up strawmen - 'oh, he's doing that because he hates America and, by extension, hates me personally' - so I can 'win'. Invariably, that winds up being whatever I want it to be. While vacations to Planet Self Generated Bullshit are fun - they don't help with figgerin sheeit out, ya know?
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Mar 9, 2014 - 02:04pm PT
If you're buckin' for Civil War 2.0, Ron - I'm happy to believe that you're probably going to be disappointed. America's too integrated for that, in any way you wish to define it. Johnny Reb's moved north, and the Damn Yanks have moved south. The black depth of that national tragedy - our grimmest national moment - hasn't been forgotten, either.

The time for compromise is every second of every day. It's a choice - and a lot of American's are rapidly learning how to do just that better. It's very exciting to watch this culture move into true modernity.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Mar 9, 2014 - 02:05pm PT
If one pisses down your back and tells you its raining, you WILL eventually come to a conclusion that the salty yellow liquid is indeed piss. Or not.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Mar 9, 2014 - 02:08pm PT
I might be inclined to think its raining, but then, I don't have taste buds on my back.

Anyhoo, I don't get the analogy. Fortunately, I haven't had the experience, either, although I hear you can pay for it.

OK, enough of Rev. Tvash's Sunday Morning Sermon.

(I am ordained - and I have married people, Praise TGBFKWUITSWLY!
dirtbag

climber
Mar 9, 2014 - 02:10pm PT
"That could have been me" speech

Well, it could have been him. The defensive reaction to it is interesting.

Black males are far more likely to experience black on black violence, racism, and incarceration. It's a God damned cancerous situation that has tragically taken a back seat.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Mar 9, 2014 - 02:13pm PT
It could HAVE NEVER BEEN him Dirt, you and i both know that and so did he.

Unless of course you take the analogy of "if a frog had wings"...



and do not blame me for black on black violence. Ive had zero to do with that. The GOVT bent over backwards in an effort to bring equality to the work force at fed levels, via things like the consent decree which STOLE my own job away from me. If you are of a minority , you then have a DEFINITE advantage to secure good employment in state and fed jobs and that has been that way since the 70's.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Mar 9, 2014 - 02:15pm PT
The racial disparity inherent in our entire criminal justice system is on the DOJs front seat now. The problem is enormous, but the system is beginning to deal with it in its necessarily slow, deliberate, often dysfunctional manner - from the feds on down to towns and counties.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Mar 9, 2014 - 02:21pm PT
Entitlement program BACKFIRE is what has happened. And that in ALL races here. Recently i was talking with my dentist as he told me of a medicaid patient that was in just before me, on disability at 30 yrs old, and him telling my dentist of the cool time they had at sand mountain in their ATVs while showing off his latest tattoo of some hundreds of dollars worth..
dirtbag

climber
Mar 9, 2014 - 02:26pm PT

It could HAVE NEVER BEEN him Dirt, you and i both know that and so did he.

Far less likely to have been you or me.

Much of black America lives in a completely different world than we live in.
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