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Mimi

climber
Dec 30, 2012 - 03:11pm PT
Care to discuss Clinton forcing through giving China favored nation status along with NAFTA?

And Bush spending was a combination of post-911 screams for increased security (very expensive) and no spending cuts by either side to offset these increases.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 30, 2012 - 03:12pm PT
Dingy Harry is the obstructionist.

(although he's just following orders from Barry)


Letter to Biden late today from turtle neck.

SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KENTUCKY): My office submitted our latest offer to the Majority Leader last night at 7:10 p.m. and offered to work through the night to find common ground. The Majority Leader's staff informed us they would be getting back to us this morning at 10:00 a.m., despite the obvious time crunch we all have. It's now 2:00 p.m., and we have yet to receive a response to our good-faith offer.

Now, I'm concerned about the lack of urgency here. I think we all know we're running out of time. This is far too much at stake for political gamesmanship. We need to protect the American families and businesses from this looming tax hike. Everyone agrees that that action is necessary. In order to get things moving, I have just spoken with the Majority Leader. I also placed a call to the vice president to see if he could help jump-start the negotiations on his side.

The vice president and I have worked together on solutions before, and I believe we can again. I want my colleagues to know that we'll keep everyone updated. The consequences of this are too high for the American people to be engaged in a political messaging campaign. I'm interested in getting a result here.

I was here all day yesterday. As I indicated, we submitted our latest proposal at 7:00 p.m. last night. We're willing to work with whoever, whoever can help. There is no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. The sticking point appears to be a willingness, an interest, or frankly the courage to close the deal. I want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done, but I need a dance partner.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Dec 30, 2012 - 03:17pm PT
It's not up to McConnell, or any of the other players, to unilaterally decide that his offer is timely or in good faith - although they naturally all claim it. And given that the Republicans so far have been the intransigent side, notwithstanding that they lost the election, it's hypocritical of them to say they presented an offer late on Saturday evening, two days before the deadline, at this time of year, and then whine that it wasn't immediately replied to.
Ricky

climber
Sometimes LA
Dec 30, 2012 - 03:20pm PT
Care to discuss Clinton forcing through giving China favored nation status along with NAFTA?

Sure, how about you start by providing a detailed and cogent argument about how those issues affect government spending and revenue.
Mimi

climber
Dec 30, 2012 - 03:23pm PT
Anders, uhh no. This isn't BC.

The House elections meant something. Maintaining that majority was just as much of a mandate as that of Kim Jong Barak winning again.

Ricky, you called me a racist not that long ago. Get lost. Knott interested in any dialogue with you on the internet. At all.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 30, 2012 - 03:36pm PT
Hey repugs…. you really want to do anything about the deficit?

Try collecting taxes that people have cheated in order not to pay. That's a burden on you and me and somehow you think of yourself as the good guy for not wanting to go after these pukes.




If you got 30 minutes…. take a listen to this….

Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Dec 30, 2012 - 03:36pm PT
Obama has a clear mandate, the senate on his side, and four years to go. If he is perceived as backing down now, there'll be hell to pay. There are also some important centrist principles involved - reducing the disparity between rich and poor through fair income taxes, protecting the middle classes, working towards addressing real budget issues. Obama would be a fool to blink first.
Mimi

climber
Dec 30, 2012 - 03:41pm PT
But Anders, that's not what's actually happening. I love how well the propaganda machine works.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Dec 30, 2012 - 03:45pm PT
Of course - all proposals by the Republicans are reasonable, timely, and involve major concessions. At least, that's what their spin machine would have us believe, although occasionally the teabagger rhetoric bursts out and betrays them.

Anyway, I have this really nice bridge that I thought you might be interested in. You'll have to evict the current tenant - some guy named Tom - but you can establish tolls, and should be able to rake it in.
Mimi

climber
Dec 30, 2012 - 03:49pm PT
We'll see how this all plays out. Anyone's guess at this point.

What's been ironic and I hope it holds up, is that the stick-a-fork-in-them-they're-dead-Tea Party candidates' votes actually matter. Now that would be rich!
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 30, 2012 - 03:49pm PT
And Bush spending was a combination of post-911 screams for increased security (very expensive) and no spending cuts by either side to offset these increases.

factually wrong

The REPUBLICANS had TOTAL control of the House, Senate, and Presidency from 2000-2006.

Those Republicans spent now one trillion dollars by passing Medicare Part D

Those Republicans added another one trillion to the national debt by cutting taxes while at the same time spending like crazy

And make no mistake, the "nation" was not screaming for those Republicans to stupidly lie about Saddam's WMD and embark on the spending nightmare of some two trillion dollars by invading Iraq, a country that had NOTHING to do with 9/11

Bush left his successor, Obama, with a built in structural deficit of over one trillion dollars a year by reducing revenue through tax cuts and also increasing spending on Entitlement programs like Medicare, and also increasing Pentagon spending


Oh, and don't forget about that little item called RECESSION

The same RECESSION that those same Republicans in charge from 2000-2006 presided over that put tens of millions of Americans out of work, many permanently now.

From national debt to national security to the economy, those same republicans made huge mistakes, spent like crazy, and were rejected loud and hard both in 08 and now also in 2012.

Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 30, 2012 - 03:51pm PT
Oh, and the current REPUBLICANS are damn good at blocking legislation that the Democrats introduced that absolutely would have benefited the middle class


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Mimi

climber
Dec 30, 2012 - 03:59pm PT
Another fine propaganda poster. I'd hang on to that one Norton.
Ricky

climber
Sometimes LA
Dec 30, 2012 - 04:00pm PT

The entirety of Mimi's political views towards this President are informed by the fact she's a disgusting racist, and highly susceptible to propaganda. I stand by that rather obvious assessment.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 30, 2012 - 04:59pm PT
^^^^^ True Dat!!!! ^^^^^


I honestly don't think I have to tell anyone here about this, but this guy's delivery of the "9 things the rich don't want you to know about taxes: Is 30 years of failure is enough?" is pretty great, peppered with just enough could language to keep you listening.


prickle

Gym climber
globe,az
Dec 30, 2012 - 05:03pm PT
factually wrong

The REPUBLICANS had TOTAL control of the House, Senate, and Presidency from 2000-2006.

Those Republicans spent now one trillion dollars by passing Medicare Part D

Those Republicans added another one trillion to the national debt by cutting taxes while at the same time spending like crazy

And make no mistake, the "nation" was not screaming for those Republicans to stupidly lie about Saddam's WMD and embark on the spending nightmare of some two trillion dollars by invading Iraq, a country that had NOTHING to do with 9/11

Bush left his successor, Obama, with a built in structural deficit of over one trillion dollars a year by reducing revenue through tax cuts and also increasing spending on Entitlement programs like Medicare, and also increasing Pentagon spending

Yes to Disarming Iraq
29 Democrats joined 48 Republicans to pass a Senate resolution on October 11 authorizing President Bush to use military force, if necessary, to disarm Iraq:

Max Baucus (Mont.)
Evan Bayh (Ind.)
Joe Biden (Del.)
John Breaux (La.)
Maria Cantwell (Wash.)
Jean Carnahan (Mo.)
Tom Carper (Del.)
Max Cleland (Ga.)
Hillary Clinton (N.Y.)
Tom Daschle (S.D.)
Christopher Dodd (Conn.)
Byron Dorgan (N.D.)
John Edwards (N.C.)
Dianne Feinstein (Calif.)
Tom Harkin (Iowa)
Fritz Hollings (S.C.)
Tim Johnson (S.D.)
John Kerry (Mass.)
Herb Kohl (Wis.)
Mary Landrieu (La.)
Joe Lieberman (Conn.)
Blanche Lincoln (Ark.)
Zell Miller (Ga.)
Ben Nelson (Neb.)
Bill Nelson (Fla.)
Harry Reid (Nev.)
John Rockefeller (W.Va.)
Charles Schumer (N.Y.)
Bob Torricelli (N.J.)

OH LOOK those oh so smart dems voted for the Iraq war!
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 30, 2012 - 05:05pm PT
And now the Debt Ceiling. Obama thinks he can take the Economy to the brink to get their warped left wing agenda installed.

Mimi

Please tell us what this warped agenda is???
HealthCare for everyone?
No Americans dying from starvation
Providing Gov. jobs??

well he isn't even talking about those things, which would be no warped left wing agenda, just common facets of most First World Countries

Mimi, how much Fox and Rush do you take in?
prickle

Gym climber
globe,az
Dec 30, 2012 - 05:06pm PT
The 107th US Senate voted in 2001 for the first of President George W. Bush’s tax cut.

Democrat Yeas
Baucus (MT)
Breaux (LA)
Carnahan (MO)
Cleland (GA)
Feinstein (CA)
Johnson (SD)
Kohl (WI)
Landrieu(LA)
Lincoln (AR)
Miller (GA)
Nelson (NE)
Torricelli (NJ)

Akaka (HI) Present, Giving Live Pair
Bingaman (NM) Present, Giving Live Pair
Kerry (MA) did not vote
Murray (WA) did not vote
Leahy (VT) did not vote
Harkin (IA) did not vote
Boxer (CA) did not vote

Republican Nays
Chafee (RI)
McCain (AZ)

Domenici (NM) did not vote
Enzi (WY) did not vote
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Dec 30, 2012 - 05:10pm PT
^^^ Lucky for me I have a republicant rebuttal on hand "Nobody's perfect"… and the republicoons prove it ever day. ^^^

Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 30, 2012 - 05:11pm PT
Prickle
Bush provided them with faulty intelligence

They were voting in good faith that No sitting President would lie, since that would be treason.

But he lied,
and anyway, the vote was to continue to look for WMDs, not invade.
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