Why are Republicans Wrong about Everything?

Search
Go

Discussion Topic

Return to Forum List
Post a Reply
Messages 40221 - 40240 of total 52572 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2012 - 03:32pm PT
He wanted to be president less than anyone I’ve met in my life. He had no desire to . . . run,” said Tagg,

Purely delusional apologetics
Right Wingers can never say they were wrong, instead they launch another campaign of lies to cover up their failure
jghedge

climber
Dec 23, 2012 - 03:49pm PT
"Total denial."
"All the money he spent speaks volumes differently."

You mean, all the money his campaign consultants ripped him off for?

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/11/inside-team-romneys-whale-of-an-it-meltdown/

http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/09/campaign-sources-the-romney-campaign-was-a-consultant-con-job/

Notice neither one of these articles are from left-wing sources - one's from Ars Technica, the other from RedState - and wingnut web sites don't get any wing nuttier than RedState

Romney's IT and campaign consultants would be getting sued into oblivion right now - except the publicity of suing your own campaign staff would just add to Romney's already abject humiliation

Like I said, probably the worst run presidential campaign in US history
Nohea

Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
Dec 23, 2012 - 04:35pm PT
Gentlemen,

I am a student of history, my change from being an independent to a libertarian comes from the many studies I have done on world and United States history.

Do you advocate that gov't entities should ignore the law when it doesn't like it? Should it ignore the law for the people it likes, but enforce it on others?

The laws should not be there in the first place and this is a classic case of a political entrepreneur using State power to create obstacles for its competition. That is Not capitalism.
Both the biz and the State have violated someone"s rights, and all such regulations should be repealed.

I purposefully left all the current IJ cases on the post, these are local, state and federal abuses by members of "The Party" I do not care if they are wearing a red shirt or a blue shirt. If there's not enough anti-Obama cases up just google the increase of no knock raids over he past four years and you'll have a better idea of this leviathan that is the State.

Abe Lincoln's famous marketing line of the people, for the people, by the people is biggest crock this nation has been sold. Yes I agree (although less and less each day) that we institute governments to protect our rights. However there was a point where the State decided to expand its role from protector to plunderer. And the beast continues to grow, it cannot be satiated, no debt, no currency, no laws will hold it back.

The State cannot continue on this path, and its us the citizens of this monster that will get royaly screwed before it will die.

Just had a great swim in the beautiful hulopoe bay.

Aloha,
Will

Check out this cool tr,
http://www.supertopo.com/tr/Polish-Direct-Aconcagua-Attempt/t11803n.html
Nohea

Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
Dec 23, 2012 - 04:58pm PT
Yes and puuloa....you'd know it as Pearl Harbor was taken by pure deception and should be returned to the re-instated Nation of Hawaii.

Maybe you ought to consider moving someplace more suitable to your libertarian spirit?

Working on that, and I do not use SS when planning for my retirement.

Time to uncork a nice Pinot on this wonderful afternoon, you guys have fun.

Aloha,
Will

Edited: cuz I hit a sensitive spot bt making an uneducated prediction about SS, and I feel sad cuz I haven't visited my dad in a few years.
jghedge

climber
Dec 23, 2012 - 05:33pm PT
"...who in their right mind below the age of 60 has any reasonable expectation of the SS ponzu scheme not failing sometime before we get any of that $$ back."

Why do wingnuts keep making predictions when none of them ever pan out?

No more accurate gauge of the future is needed than the opposite of their forecasts - it's uncanny - it's like they're the Oracle Of Wrong

Nothing makes me more confident that SS will be solvent than a wingnut prediction to the contrary
dirtbag

climber
Dec 23, 2012 - 05:35pm PT
"A Day in the Life of Joe Republican"

But this could just as easily be called "A Day in the Life of Nohea Libertarian"

Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn’t think he should loose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

Its noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FDIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republican’s would still be sitting in the dark)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.

He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, "We don’t need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have".
Ricky

climber
Sometimes LA
Dec 23, 2012 - 05:55pm PT

What do Republicans have against taxis?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57560668-10391739/sen-michael-crapo-arrested-on-dui-in-virginia/
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 23, 2012 - 06:10pm PT
It reminds them of when their Moms had to drive them to and from their dates. So now they see it like the Nanny State. So they are compelled to constantly de-ride.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Dec 23, 2012 - 06:22pm PT
nice one, dirtbag
dirtbag

climber
Dec 23, 2012 - 06:26pm PT
It's an oldie that never gets old, Norton.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 24, 2012 - 07:33am PT
Credit: philo
10b4me

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Dec 24, 2012 - 07:36am PT
^^^this is what happens when hillbillies get rich
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 24, 2012 - 07:56am PT
This is also the business plan for America that the Republicans are touting.
All hail the job creators and pass the welfare please.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2012 - 08:27am PT
They are the welfare Queens and Kings

Mitt would have made a the Worlds Greatest Welfare King, and producer of Food stamp demand.

The Republican Promise
Ship jobs to China, increase unemployment here, and then pay the lowest wages possible, use every possible legal or illegal loophole and scheme to pay the lowest taxes



I'm not sure which Right Wingnut branch are more stupid
Libertarians or Republicans

Neo-cons like TGT, KKK, DT, fATTY and BluRing are obviously at the bottom
Devotees of Rush and Fox News, and the Right Wing State Media Outlet
dirtbag

climber
Dec 24, 2012 - 08:33am PT
Looks like KKKorniss has completely bailed. LOL.

Maybe he finally woke up and realized how he was wrong about everything?
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Dec 24, 2012 - 08:40am PT
I think KKK is still on a wilderness retreat with his Paul Ryan blow up doll
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 24, 2012 - 08:43am PT
LOL LOL LOL
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2012 - 08:50am PT
When Prophecy Fails

By PAUL KRUGMAN

Published: December 23, 2012


Back in the 1950s three social psychologists joined a cult that was predicting the imminent end of the world. Their purpose was to observe the cultists’ response when the world did not, in fact, end on schedule. What they discovered, and described in their classic book, “When Prophecy Fails,” is that the irrefutable failure of a prophecy does not cause true believers — people who have committed themselves to a belief both emotionally and by their life choices — to reconsider. On the contrary, they become even more fervent, and proselytize even harder.

This insight seems highly relevant as 2012 draws to a close. After all, a lot of people came to believe that we were on the brink of catastrophe — and these views were given extraordinary reach by the mass media. As it turned out, of course, the predicted catastrophe failed to materialize. But we can be sure that the cultists won’t admit to having been wrong. No, the people who told us that a fiscal crisis was imminent will just keep at it, more convinced than ever.

Oh, wait a second — did you think I was talking about the Mayan calendar thing?

Seriously, at every stage of our ongoing economic crisis — and in particular, every time anyone has suggested actually trying to do something about mass unemployment — a chorus of voices has warned that unless we bring down budget deficits now now now, financial markets will turn on America, driving interest rates sky-high. And these prophecies of doom have had a powerful effect on our economic discourse.

Thus, back in May 2009 the Wall Street Journal editorial page seized on an uptick in long-term interest rates to declare that the “bond vigilantes,” the “disciplinarians of U.S. policy makers,” had arrived, and would push rates inexorably higher if big budget deficits continued. As it happened, rates soon went back down. But that didn’t stop The Journal’s news section from rolling out the same story the next time rates rose: “Debt fears send rates up,” blared a headline in March 2010; the debt continued to grow, but the rates went down again.

At this point the yield on the benchmark 10-year bond is less than half what it was when that 2009 editorial was published. But don’t expect any rethinking on The Journal’s part.

Now, you could say that The Journal’s editors didn’t give a specific date for the fiscal apocalypse, although I doubt that any of their readers imagined that they were talking about an event at least three years and seven months in the future.

In any case, some of the most prominent deficit scolds have indeed been willing to talk about dates, or at least time horizons. In early 2011 Erskine Bowles confidently declared that we would face a fiscal crisis within around two years unless something like the Bowles-Simpson deficit plan was enacted, and Alan Simpson chimed in to say that it would be less than two years. I guess he has about 10 weeks left. But again, don’t expect either Mr. Simpson or Mr. Bowles to admit that there might have been something fundamentally wrong with their analysis.

No, very few of the prophets of fiscal doom have acknowledged the failure of their prophecies to come true so far. And those who have admitted surprise seem more annoyed than chastened. For example, back in 2010 Alan Greenspan — who is, for some reason, still treated as an authority figure — conceded that despite large budget deficits, “inflation and long-term interest rates, the typical symptoms of fiscal excess, have remained remarkably subdued.” But he went on to declare, “This is regrettable, because it is fostering a sense of complacency.” How dare reality not validate my fears!

Regular readers know that I and other economists argued from the beginning that these dire warnings of fiscal catastrophe were all wrong, that budget deficits won’t cause soaring interest rates as long as the economy is depressed — and that the biggest risk to the economy is that we might try to slash the deficit too soon. And surely that point of view has been strongly validated by events.

The key thing we need to understand, however, is that the prophets of fiscal disaster, no matter how respectable they may seem, are at this point effectively members of a doomsday cult. They are emotionally and professionally committed to the belief that fiscal crisis lurks just around the corner, and they will hold to their belief no matter how many corners we turn without encountering that crisis.

So we cannot and will not persuade these people to reconsider their views in the light of the evidence. All we can do is stop paying attention. It’s going to be difficult, because many members of the deficit cult seem highly respectable. But they’ve been hugely, absurdly wrong for years on end, and it’s time to stop taking them seriously.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2012 - 08:58am PT
Credit: Dr. F.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Dec 24, 2012 - 09:00am PT
This insight seems highly relevant as 2012 draws to a close. After all, a lot of people came to believe that we were on the brink of catastrophe


We were on the brink of catastrophe. It was the real possibility of yet another stolen election and another GOP Presidency. Whew dodged a boobie on that one.
Messages 40221 - 40240 of total 52572 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
Return to Forum List
Post a Reply
 
Our Guidebooks
Check 'em out!
SuperTopo Guidebooks


Try a free sample topo!

 
SuperTopo on the Web

Review Categories
Recent Route Beta
Recent Gear Reviews