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bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Mar 4, 2014 - 07:13pm PT
credit where credit is due; barry gets one right:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/04/Department-of-Homeland-Security-Will-Not-Deport-Romeike-German-Homeschoolers
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Mar 4, 2014 - 07:42pm PT
so what else can I piss and moan and bellyache about?

Republicans and the dreaded anthropogenic climate disruption. Those two seem to get the most whining and bellyaching around here.

Or I can save you the effort.

Those mean old Republicans. They're so mean and stupid and stuff! Whah, whah, whaaaaah!

It's getting warmer. We're all gonna die! Whah, whah, whaaaaah!!!!
jammer

climber
Mar 4, 2014 - 07:45pm PT
Gordo, with about 30 seconds of internet searching followed by three minutes of reading, I came up with an nice explanation for what you just spun around and presented. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

Instead Israel made an offer of allowing 100,000 of the refugees to return to the area, though not necessarily to their homes, including 25,000 who had returned surreptitiously and 10,000 family-reunion cases.[10]:577 The proposal was conditional on a peace treaty that would allow Israel to retain the territory it had captured which had been allocated to the Arab state by the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine, and, contrary to Israel's UN acceptance promise, on the Arab states absorbing the remaining 550,000–650,000 refugees. The Arab states rejected the proposal on both legal, moral and political grounds, and Israel quickly withdrew its limited offer.

Benny Morris, in his 2004 book, The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem Revisited, summarizes it from his perspective:

In retrospect, it appeared that at Lausanne was lost the best and perhaps only chance for a solution of the refugee problem, if not for the achievement of a comprehensive Middle East settlement. But the basic incompatibility of the initial starting positions and the unwillingness of the two sides to move, and to move quickly, towards a compromise—born of Arab rejectionism and a deep feeling of humiliation, and of Israeli drunkenness with victory and physical needs determined largely by the Jewish refugee influx—doomed the 'conference' from the start. American pressure on both sides, lacking a sharp, determined cutting edge, failed to budge sufficiently either Jew or Arab. The '100,000 Offer' was a classic of too little, too late.[10]:580

Yep, sounds like a proper justification to tell them to f*#k off and go away forever. Solid. I guess all the Palestinians in 2014 should pay retribution for that "shortsighted" decision way back in 1949. Wow.

To remind you, you are defending the position that somehow the GOP are in touch with reality more so than Obama regarding Middle Eastern American foreign policy since they support Nyetanyahu, specifically regarding this issue of him recently, at least for now and the foreseeable future (hopefully not), effectively telling the Palestinians to go away forever. In contrast Obama pushes for peace and a mutually agreeable solution. Keep in mind that history would indicate that oppressed groups tend not to disappear, and social change can not be forced.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Mar 4, 2014 - 08:03pm PT
It's apparently uncool to care. To talk is to whine.

The GOP is where I go to get my Manly Zen on.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 4, 2014 - 08:25pm PT
It's getting warmer. We're all gonna die! Whah, whah, whaaaaah!!!!

good one, Sketch!
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 4, 2014 - 08:35pm PT
MY GOD I JUST REALIZED THAT WE STILL DONT KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!1111111
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 4, 2014 - 08:51pm PT
Obama convinced Putin to invade Crimea to distract from Benghazi.
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2014 - 09:16pm PT
All hail TheTool

Credit: Dr. F.
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2014 - 09:20pm PT
TheTool in his normal flesh. <br/>
He's a shape shifter reptilian
TheTool in his normal flesh.
He's a shape shifter reptilian
Credit: Dr. F.
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2014 - 09:22pm PT
Credit: Dr. F.
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2014 - 10:14pm PT
This is serious, the Senate majority Leader accusing the other Party to be in the tank with the Anti-American treasonous Koch Brothers

Harry Reid: 'Republicans Are Addicted To Koch'


Posted: 03/04/2014 3:19 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/04/harry-reid-koch-brothers_n_4898448.html

WASHINGTON -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) kept up his concerted campaign against the oil billionaire Koch Brothers Tuesday, saying on the Senate floor that "Republicans are addicted to Koch."

Reid went after the billionaire brothers, David and Charles, repeatedly last week, arguing that they are trying to buy the United States Congress.

He elaborated on that charge Tuesday, saying that the Koch duo got an excellent return on their investment in helping to elect a GOP majority in the House of Representatives in 2010. That majority, Reid said, has helped block regulations and laws that would protect the health of Americans at a relatively minor cost to oil magnates.


Now, Reid charged, the wealthy pair wants to improve their investment -- and buy the Senate.

"Senate Republicans have opposed asking billionaires to pay the same higher tax rates as middle-class families," Reid said, referencing Warren Buffett's advocacy around the fact that he pays lower tax rates than his secretary. "Senate Republicans have opposed workplace standards that might cost the Koch brothers a few extra dimes, a few extra dollars, maybe. And the Koch brothers are returning the favor with huge donations to Republican Senate candidates, either directly or indirectly. Senate Republicans, madam president, are addicted to Koch," Reid said, addressing Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.), who was presiding.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) was not impressed with Reid's attacks on the billionaires, saying they have every right to spend whatever billions they want to subvert democracy.

"These Satanists have a Constitutional right to participate in the political process," McConnell said. "And it strikes me as curious that we are going to demonize people for exercising their constitutional rights to go out and speak and participate in the political process."


jammer

climber
Mar 4, 2014 - 10:31pm PT
Thank you Dr. F for the exceptionally accurate (no kidding) translation of McConnells crypto-speak comments at the end. From the article it is:

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) was not impressed with Reid's attacks on the billionaires, saying they have every right to spend whatever they want on politics.

"These American citizens have a Constitutional right to participate in the political process," McConnell said. "And it strikes me as curious that we are going to demonize people for exercising their constitutional rights to go out and speak and participate in the political process."

Again, the people who voted for our GOP controlled congress apparently voted in a general sense for less centralized control and power, a very traditional conservative ideal, and one that I think has every place in contemporary American politics. I wonder how those facts resonate with them. If only we could get them to actually vote their interests...
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Mar 5, 2014 - 08:46am PT
Harry Reid regularly talks out of his ass.

Where were you guys when Reid was lying through his teeth about the anti-Obamacare ads?
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 5, 2014 - 09:30am PT
Where were you guys when Reid was lying through his teeth about the anti-Obamacare ads?

Probably climbing or doing something with my kids, instead of watching whatever it was you were watching on TV - the show that was telling you that Reid was "lying through his teeth."

What TV show was that anyway?

Nevermind, I don't have cable.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 5, 2014 - 09:52am PT
^^^LOL Dave Koss
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Mar 5, 2014 - 09:57am PT


"2nd edit: Oh, to your question of Ron concerning healthcare. Great societies take care of"...


Is your name RON???...
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Mar 5, 2014 - 10:04am PT
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula

Mar 5, 2014 - 06:30am PT
Where were you guys when Reid was lying through his teeth about the anti-Obamacare ads?

Probably climbing or doing something with my kids, instead of watching whatever it was you were watching on TV - the show that was telling you that Reid was "lying through his teeth."

What TV show was that anyway?

Nevermind, I don't have cable.

Ah yes. The convenient ignorance defense.

You've got that one in spades.
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Mar 5, 2014 - 10:18am PT
Is this wrong?

Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 5, 2014 - 10:21am PT
it's a free country!

juvenile, sexist, and the point is what exactly, that someone was bored and made that?

but really, who cares?

hi Sketch

edit: and sketch, it appears that my memory was bad and so I "lied" a few years ago by calling President Bush "shrub", yes I DID do that out of my anger for the hell his lack of intellect and talking to god did to kill thousands of our soldiers and invade Iraq,
yes, I was angry and called him Shrub

so I LIED, I am of low moral character, cannot be trusted and have no credibility

and you, sketch, were RIGHT in that I LIED about calling President Bush a name

fact: I did not "lie" in that I believed that I had never stooped that low, a lie is when
someone makes a statement that at that time they know and believe to be false

was I wrong, yes, did I lie, not by the accepted definition, am I a POS, by all means
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2014 - 10:35am PT
Sketch, what's your claim to fame?
Being a smart alec and having nothing of substance to contribute?

Is that your game?
It's getting really old,

step it up, or go away, loser.


At least Kos has something to say.
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