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Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Nov 21, 2012 - 10:23pm PT
Hamas runs Gaza because the Palestinians had previously elected a moderate government that didn't accomplish anything with Israel. The Israeli government used the opportunity to build the wall, annex more palestinian land and build more settlements.

Plus the Abbas and his team were thought of as corrupt while Hamas actually was engaged in Social programs.

Hamas may suck but refusing to deal with them because they are a "Terrorist organization" is madness. Israel killed more Palestinian civilians in one day recently than the number of Israeli civilians "the terrorists" have killed in the past 3 years. Similar claims could be made for the years before that. The number of Children killed by Israel dwarfs any killed by Hamas and it's been that way for a long time. And a Palestinian child being killed was a the beginning of this whole new wave of violence but our media fails to report it.

I have tons of Jewish and even Israeli friends and I'm prejudiced against orthodox islam, much less fundamentalist islam, but truth is truth.

Read the five lies the media keeps telling about the situation
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/omar-baddar/5-lies-the-media-keeps-re_b_2160239.html?utm_hp_ref=israel-gaza-conflict
splitter

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Nov 21, 2012 - 10:49pm PT
Karl,

No doubt there are horendous things taking place on both sides. I imagine there is no love loss on either side. That they both have much hate for eachother. It is really the kids that suffer most growing up inside all of that. It was very sad seeing that little 13 y.o. old boys mother weeping over his dead body. (the boy who was playing "football" and got shot a few days ago).

The bible says to, "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem." that means all of Israel and the surrounding territory. A very timeless verse. That is what I am praying and hoping for. Because this could get very messy if it escalates and the Hezbolah gets involved. The whole territory could explode. They have all of those chemical weapons. What a nightmare.

edit: "a child being killed" and others say it escalated right after Obama was reelected. Maybe both? It has been going on forever.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 21, 2012 - 11:36pm PT
Bible prophecy is rapidly unfolding. If you followed it, you would be amazed. I already know what is going to happen.

Thus the complete evangelical rube basis for traction in Iraeli's AIPAC manipulations of US foreign policy writ large. Clueless, completely and utterly cluelsss.
splitter

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Nov 21, 2012 - 11:49pm PT
Gnarly...
Hamas kill six Palestinians suspected of collaborating for a truce wit...
Hamas kill six Palestinians suspected of collaborating for a truce with Israel! Yeah, sure we want peace! lol
Credit: splitter

what is going to happen is the US foreign policy with Israel is we are no longer going to support her. she will go to war with the surrounding countries, Arab confederacy. Iran (Persia) and Russia will join forces with the Arab confederacy. Israel will be n its own. i would think that you would be thrilled. your the one who is clueless. maybe you will recall this little conversation some day. it describes these very times to a T. describes the exact countries, the exact number of years after Jerusalem would fall (70ad) the exact # of generations that the Jews would be dispersed throughout the world. and then return to the promised land...etc! bury your head in the sand. clueless indeed!!! Obama is just the man for the times.

did you really think this was going to go on forever. that America was going to run to Israels rescue. get involved in another war.

NOPE!

It ain't gonna happen!! Israel will soon be all on its own!

YEP once again YEP Obama is just the man to fullfill bible prophecy, and America chose him.

You should be thrilled, healyje!!!

bt, another sign, grwing worldwide antisemitism! non oof that here on ST though, eh? lol
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 22, 2012 - 12:57am PT
Again, relentlessly clueless and spellbound by ignorance and myth. Your scenario is as laughable as it is mindlessly detached from people and events in the real world.

But, I would much prefer we not fund Israel's relentless incursion of Palestinian lands. And if we are going to fund them better than we do many U.S. states, then we should hold them similarly accountable for their decisions and actions - not the other way around. As it is it is our young men and women who keep paying the price for Israeli intransigence.

P.S. Oh, and Israel is more than capable of holding its own, on its own, but then they'd have to support their fundamentalist orthodox factions on their own dime instead of ours.
splitter

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Nov 22, 2012 - 01:00am PT
Are you deaf or blind? I did say that we were not going to support them in anyway for much longer. Surely not in some war with Iran. You seem to be doubtful of this. Yes, Israel will soon be on its own.

'you can discern the weather, but you can't discern the times!'

no one thinks for me. i have been studying bible prophecy on my own since 1968. i read the bible.

your full of blind pessimism. you have never even opened a bible, yet study it. so funny how c*#k sure you are of yerself about something you have zero knowledge of.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 22, 2012 - 01:08am PT
Again, bible prophecy is delusional tripe with no relationship of any kind to the real world. None. It's all myth and fantasy for folks unwilling or unable to think for themselves.
dave goodwin

climber
carson city, nv
Nov 22, 2012 - 05:52am PT
Splitter-

I would like to know what your "studies" concluded after you studied this in the bible.


When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 22, 2012 - 08:04am PT
Splitter, one thing that you don't appear to understand: You argue that you are not a racist, and you may not be. However, that is not the same thing as using racist rhetoric, which you tend to do. That does not neccessarily make you a racist, but it will always make you appear to be one.

Bottom line -- Israel is gonna be sh#t out of luck before long and will be in the undesirable situation of having no one come to its defence. America certainly wont.

By treaty and law, America will. Absolutely no leader of the last 30 years that I've heard has EVER said what you have said. They all UNANIMOUSLY say the opposite.

So, US calls for Israels restraint?

Because this could get very messy if it escalates and the Hezbolah gets involved. The whole territory could explode. They have all of those chemical weapons. What a nightmare.

Well, Hammas has no conventional army, so the way that this can escalate is for Israel to invade. Then the cards fall.

But do you want that to happen, your "nightmare"? Or do you prefer for the Israelis to show restaint?

You can't have it both ways.

But what I really think, is that you hope and pray for the END OF DAYS to take place, which you are convinced will happen in the ME, and hope for the nightmare with massive butchery to take place.

As for your "Gnarly..." photo, thanks for spreading the propaganda of the enemies of America and Israel. As I said, you'll do anything to fan the flames of violence. Nice traitorous work.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 22, 2012 - 08:05am PT
Dave, that's worth reposting to have at the top of a page!

Splitter-

I would like to know what your "studies" concluded after you studied this in the bible.


When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Nov 22, 2012 - 08:10am PT
You can own Canadians but they cost more, are more expensive to maintain and don't work as hard as Mexicans.
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Nov 22, 2012 - 08:50am PT
There are advantages. You can leave Canadians out in the cold in just a T-shirt for longer. Inadequate clothing will make them work harder.

I think the rule of thumb is: Canadians in the winter, Mexicans in the summer.
johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Nov 22, 2012 - 09:39am PT
Good rule of thumb khanom, but they both have their own language we can't speak, so either can slander us in their native tongue evenly.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 22, 2012 - 09:41am PT
Ultimate irony:

Dave Wasserman at Cook Political Report projects that the final count of the popular vote, which is still ongoing, will show Romney winning 47 percent of the electorate.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Nov 22, 2012 - 10:04am PT
Dave Wasserman at Cook Political Report projects that the final count of the popular vote, which is still ongoing, will show Romney winning 47 percent of the electorate.

 to put it another way…. Rombley lost 53% of the vote and Obama Won 53% of the vote….


Are you guys still talking about that guy… I'm content with letting him and his fake religious ass fade into "fakes" sections of history.

What a dumbass - Corporations are not people stupidasses
splitter

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Nov 22, 2012 - 10:22am PT
John M - As for your "Gnarly" photo, thanks for spreading the propaganda ... you'll do anything to spread the flames ..
WTF? It was all over the internet news services last night. Basically every one posted pics and a story. One had a video. I posted it to show the carnage/brutality & hate. It goes for both sides (as far as i know).

"You will do anything to spread..." Your a fuking idiot. I posted a pic that shocked me. I am not involved in any of this bull shit/politics, etc! DO ANYTHING? In the last 5 years I have been on ST I post one time here, I COULD have posted hundreds, maybe thousands of things here on this thread by now. I don't really give a sh#t what you or anyone else thinks. I don't even vote. or haven't in a long time. You guys are losing it. You JUMP to MAJOR conclusions.

I was just quoting Bible Prophecy. It has been 100% correct so far. I DO NOT want to see war break out in the ME. Did you read what I said?

"PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF ISRAEL!"

That is a bible quote.

You guys aren't even worth responding to. You pull out the race card if anyone even mentions anything that goes against the grain of your PC agenda!!

edit: the Palestinian's (people in Gaza) want peace, as do the people north of the GS (Israeli's). They are the ones who suffer, the pawns, the common people.

Rileywyner - "inane uneducated idiot" LOL! I'm a graduate of San Jose State University. One of the most liberal universities in our nation. I studied poliSci under radical leftest & had one avowed Marxist Professor tell me that "A Christian will not pass this class." a latin american/PoliSci class. Umm, i got an A (it was an elective, and i didnt even have to take it). As far as IQ goes, we were given tests in one upper division college statistics class (she was doing a study) and she said I was in the TOP 5% in the nation. On the 60 question Analytic reasoning IQ test which lasted 60 minutes I got 59 out of 60 correct. A girl sneazed and it broke my concentration and I didn't finish the 32 or 33rd question. I was going to go back, I had 5-6 minutes left when i finished, but didn't really see the point since it was not a graded test. It absolutely blew her mind(that i got 59 correct). If I had went and answered that question (which i am 100% sure I would have gotten right) i she would have put me in the TOP 1% she said!!!

ALTHOUGH, I may be an idiot, according to YOUR definition! ...

You guys are SO full of yourselves!!
dave goodwin

climber
carson city, nv
Nov 22, 2012 - 11:00am PT
I don't really give a sh#t what you or anyone else thinks.- Splitter

You may not, but you sure like to tell us what you think!


splitter

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Nov 22, 2012 - 11:19am PT
dave goodwin - you sure like to tell us what you think
"If the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people ... I will hold the watchman accountable for their deaths."

edit: i really don't like to/have any desire to get caught up in the political aspects of what is going on in the ME. It is not my focus. I know how it will inevitably end. If you know anything about bible prophecy, it is God who is dealing with the Israelite's! He is going to pull everything out from underneath them. They will eventually run for the hills. But, in the mean time, they will first depend on their own strength (currently coupled with US, etc) but, eventually turn elsewhere. They will not turn to God (they are largely secular). You've all heard how it goes. Exactly who they sign the seven year pact with, yada, yada, yada!

"if your all knowing ..." -- I am not all knowing (lol). But, my God is! I know that everything He has prophesied in the bible has so far come to be 100% true. And furthermore, everything He has told me in my life, was fulfilled (100%). That is all I "know" at this time. I will certainly "blow the trumpet" should I be given that duty. I have been just stating general knowledge for anyone who has studied bible prophecy.

btw, "all knowing..." you guys sure like to jump to conclusions/put words into peoples mouth. sheeeesh!!
dave goodwin

climber
carson city, nv
Nov 22, 2012 - 11:22am PT
If you are all knowing, then what song will you play through your trumpet next?
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Nov 22, 2012 - 11:55am PT
I think the rule of thumb is: Canadians in the winter, Mexicans in the summer.
Khanom for the win.

Mind you, you have to pay some attention to regional differences.
Canada is a big country, with many micro-climates.
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