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TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 15, 2012 - 09:52am PT
America is capitalist and greedy - yet half of the population is subsidized.


 Half of the population is subsidized - yet they think they are victims.


 They think they are victims - yet their representatives run the government.


 Their representatives run the government - yet the poor keep getting poorer.


 The poor keep getting poorer - yet they have things that people in other countries only dream about.


 They have things that people in other countries only dream about - yet they want America to be more like those other countries.

jghedge

climber
Nov 15, 2012 - 10:03am PT
"The poor keep getting poorer - yet they have things that people in other countries only dream about."

They don't have health insurance, but the poor in other countries do.


"They have things that people in other countries only dream about - yet they want America to be more like those other countries."

They don't have health insurance, but the poor in other countries do.


So easy to refute that childish diatribe, you wonder how any adult could put the slightest credence in it.

Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Nov 15, 2012 - 10:06am PT
It only SEEMS like an Onion article. But it's REAL!! Haha !!

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Opting for a bold “big tent” strategy to rebuild the party, Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, told reporters today, “We need to welcome people who believe in different things than we do, like math and science.”
After disappointing results in Tuesday’s election, Mr. Priebus said that it was time for Republicans to become “more tolerant of those with a math-and-science lifestyle.”

“Just because we don’t believe in those things doesn’t mean we can’t get along with people who do,” he said. “We want to send this message: math and science Americans are Americans, too.”
In the biggest departure from its previous electoral strategy, Mr. Priebus said, the Republican Party is “even considering trying to appeal to women.”

“I read recently that women are as much as fifty-one per cent of the population,” he said. “That number sounded crazy high to me, but maybe one of our new math Republicans can check on it for us.”


Read more:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2012/11/republicans-consider-welcoming-people-who-believe-in-math-and-science.html#ixzz2CJdZfVlu
locker

Social climber
Nov 15, 2012 - 10:12am PT


" They have things that people in other countries only dream about - yet they want America to be more like those other countries."...


Fair is fair!!!...

Why are WE so special???...

;-)

Dave Kos

Trad climber
Temecula
Nov 15, 2012 - 10:29am PT
“We need to welcome people who believe in different things than we do, like math and science.”

Wow.

Just...wow.

I'm having trouble believing he really said that. Is there a video?
John M

climber
Nov 15, 2012 - 10:37am PT
The job creators are the wealthy in this country.

Um.. nope.. if that were so, then there would be tons of jobs in the country right now. The wealthy have never been wealthier.

What creates jobs is a strong middle class. Something the republicans have been at war against. Demand is what creates jobs. Whose going to buy all of those cars that you build if all you have are a few wealthy and a bunch of poor people?


“We need to welcome people who believe in different things than we do, like math and science.”

that is classic.. and so sounds like the Onion.. LOL
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Nov 15, 2012 - 10:41am PT
Why are WE so special???...


You have to ask? Get a grip man.


Because God said so
John M

climber
Nov 15, 2012 - 10:42am PT
Hey Norton... be a man and say thank you to Fatty for paying up. Even though that was what he was suppose to do.
John M

climber
Nov 15, 2012 - 10:48am PT
I don't. I meant publicly since you called him out publicly. There is a thread about it. I agree with them.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1986810/If-you-call-someone-out-in-public
Norte_Caroliña_Climber

Gym climber
BigWall Baller From the Holler
Nov 15, 2012 - 11:12am PT
Republicans ain't wrong on everything. How about Nixon? He give us the EPA, Clean Water Act, and all kindsa feel good hippy sh#t.

Or whatabout Ike. He give us a good warning about the Military Industrial Complex. And Colin Powell, he give us...well actually that f*#ker give us a bunch of lies to go into Iraq, so scratch that. Umm, and Louis Gomert, he give us plenty of hootin and hollering, doubled over laughin' with his comedy routine (I hear tell some folks think he is serious with his speechifiying, come on now he's jes a cutup class clown).

Um, and how about that Mitt Romney, he gave Massachusetts(shit I cain't spell it right) health care.

And George Bush Sr, he was right about "voodoo economics" of the trickle down my back and tell me it's rainin crew.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Nov 15, 2012 - 11:14am PT
Conservatives are such hypocrites on health care. They say the government should not provide single payer health care like the rest of the civilized world, that people should get their health insurance from their work.

Since when have conservatives said we should obtain health care through employment? Conservatives say that the market is the best mechanism for allocating scarce resources. Tying employment to health care came about because of WWII wage controls and tax advantages.

A fair criticism of conservatives, to me, would be that if we allocate scarce resources by market mechanisms, should we not provide enough to the least fortunate for them to obtain a decent minimum of necessary goods and services? It's unjust to say "let the market allocate everything" while, simultaneously, saying that income redistribution is either unnecessary or unfair.

I balance that against my criticism of the liberals. How is it fair that those who work harder should pay a greater percentage of their earnings than those who don't work as hard? How is it fair to make those who save pay for those who don't?

I think our disagreements come largely from finding that balance.

As for negotiating, I agree with Dave that the Norquist pledge is far more pernicious to the national good than any public stance of Obama, but saying "I'm open to ideas" doesn't mean much when you say, in effect, "but your ideas have to accept . . ."

I guess what I'm saying, Dave, is that even though I'm critical of both sides, I'm not saying their sins are equivalent. I think any stance on fiscal issues that puts any particular solution off the table is harmful to the nation, but I also think that announcing beforehand that you will demand something to which you know there will be no consensus is poor negotiating strategy. When I see one party do one, and the other respond with the other, it doesn't make me optimistic.

John
John M

climber
Nov 15, 2012 - 11:21am PT
How is it fair that those who work harder should pay a greater percentage of their earnings than those who don't work as hard?

Sure John, those CEOs work so much harder then the people who pick your produce. Or mow your lawn, and clean your carpets.

Come on John, why do you use this tired argument. Sure there are some who don't work very much or even at all, but those aren't the majority of people. I believe in the notion that to whom much is given, much is required. Thats from your bible. Do you believe it?
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Nov 15, 2012 - 11:25am PT
So John, if the government doesn't deal with Health care and you don't think we should expect it from work, that leaves the private market. Have you seen what private health insurance costs in this free market? That leaves the lower classes out entirely and what are they supposed to do. Should we just bury them. And the conservatives did nothing about the problem of preexisting conditions, which left some out entirely. I know a guy who was paying $1500 a month for coverage.

and this

I balance that against my criticism of the liberals. How is it fair that those who work harder should pay a greater percentage of their earnings than those who don't work as hard? How is it fair to make those who save pay for those who don't?

Because ability to pay counts. The money HAS to come from somewhere. Wealth doesn't come from nothing. The infrastructure of the country is required for wealth to be created. The government provides millions in health benefits to Wallmart employees who Wallmart themselves wont cover. Beside, the rich cheat anyway. How come Romney makes millions a year and pays 13% in taxes? Is that fair?

Plus, it's bullshit to say the wealthier work harder. What did Romney do for those many millions last year or the year before. I'm quite sure a blue collar guy is pouring plenty of sweat into work versus some wall street dude moving money around for 100X more money

peace

karl
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Nov 15, 2012 - 11:29am PT
“We need to welcome people who believe in different things than we do, like math and science.”

Wow.

Just...wow.

I'm having trouble believing he really said that. Is there a video?

That got me too. But sadly no, this is a satyrical page that "reshuffles" the news, much as the Daily Show does. No actual quote exists, just a way of boiling down the basic message in one simply jaw-dropping blurb.

Great page- read the rest of the stories for more laughs...
locker

Social climber
Nov 15, 2012 - 11:30am PT


"those CEOs" never picked anything from any field...

The REAL workers that kick ass, don't make SQUAT...
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Nov 15, 2012 - 11:33am PT
John M,

I realize you find this a tired argument, but I think that is, in fact, our critical point of difference in outlook. It seems that most Republicans I know live as if the major determinant in differences in income is a person's decisions, including but not limited to how hard they work. In my personal experience, one does not get to be a CEO of a major corporation without a lot of ability, education, and significant, demanding and hard work.

I can tell you from personal experience that I am making about a third of what I made twenty years ago as a partner is a good law firm, but I work half as hard, and don't take the anxiety of work home with me now. That -- and good medication -- have made me much more than three times better off.

Sure, there are some who don't "deserve" what they make, but, in my opinion, that is the exception, not the rule. For most of the people I know, our differences in income tie directly to our career choices and the sum of our lives' decisions and experience.

John
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Nov 15, 2012 - 11:40am PT
locker

Social climber
Nov 15, 2012 - 11:43am PT


To me, GREED is and always will be...

UGLY...
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Nov 15, 2012 - 11:44am PT
“We need to welcome people who believe in different things than we do, like math and science.”

Wow.

Just...wow.

I'm having trouble believing he really said that. Is there a video?

Yup, just found out Borowitz is satire. New Yorker should have flagged it as such
John M

climber
Nov 15, 2012 - 11:47am PT
John.. you must have limited experience.

Go pour concrete for a summer. Or go work on a roofing crew. Or go bail hay. Most of those guys aren't smart enough to have better jobs. Sure.. some of them are, and they often end up running the company. But most of them will never do any better then that and not because they don't work hard. You really don't seem to understand what it means to have been given more. Your own bible describes it. Luke 12:48. Do you not believe your own bible? Hard work isn't the only determining factor in a persons life. I know that republicans believe that it only comes down to hard work. I have listened to them sneer plenty of times. I have also done plenty of hard labor jobs and no.. you won't be making half the money for half the work. Sure there were always the guys who didn't have any money because they made foolish decisions, or they were slackers on the job so they didn't' get the better jobs, but plenty of guys work hard but just don't have the brains to put it all together to do any better then digging ditches or pouring cement.

If you worried more with your original line of work, then maybe you weren't cut out for the job. My brother is an air traffic controller at a major international airport. Supposedly one of the most stressful jobs out there. He loves his job and doesn't feel stressed from it at all. Raising kids stresses him way more. Going to work is his relaxation.
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