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Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Oct 14, 2012 - 08:50pm PT
I would suggest every one who could should take phone pics of their votes as proof.

Somewhere out there
Oct 14, 2012 - 08:54pm PT
America is in decline. If Obama wins it happens faster. If Romney wins it happens a little slower.

End of days......I hope I'm wrong.

 yet another example of Un-American ActivityÖ.
Dr. F.

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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2012 - 09:37pm PT
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 14, 2012 - 09:40pm PT
"If Romney is elected, I am!"

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Time to be worried.
Dr. F.

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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2012 - 09:53pm PT
The GOP, Wrong about Everything!!

Clinging To Nonsense: The GOP POV Is Usually Wrong And Thus Irrelevant

October 13, 2012
By Lorelei


After Biden kicked ass in the Veep Debate, some conservatives were posting stuff like, ďSorry to burst your bubble, but Republicans see it differently.Ē Well, the GOP see a lot of things differently, and it doesnít make them right.

Itís members of the GOP who think it is OK to parse ďkindsĒ of rape, making up nonsense phrases like ďlegitimate rapeĒ and ďforcible rape,Ē and to use their definitions as an excuse to deny someone medical care or legal recourse.

Itís members of the GOP who think stealing elections, voter disenfranchisement and voter ID laws, voter registration fraud, and True The Vote vigilante groups are all a good thing, and not Jim Crow 2.0.

Itís members of the GOP who hate science, denying evolution and Climate Change.

Itís members of the GOP who insist that the NAACP is ďracistďÖthey probably do not understand what racism actually is.

Itís the GOP who have politicians saying ďlet Detroit go BankruptĒ and then taking credit for the revival of the auto industry, when not denying that there has been a revival.

Itís the GOP who have politicians creating a popular healthcare program and then turning around and hating it when it becomes ďObamacare.Ē

Itís the GOP who have politicians suggesting that the failing housing market needs to hit rock bottom, and blaming the poor for accepting fraudulent loans, then pretending it is to their credit when things get better.

It is the GOP pretending that Obama ďpromisedĒ to lower unemployment statistics to under 8%, and using that as a cudgel to slam POTUS with for 43 straight months, and then who claim that the Bureau of Labor Statistics is making its numbers up when the unemployment rate dips to 7.8%.

Itís supporters of the GOP threatening to fire workers if they donít vote for Romney.

Itís members of the GOP who fail to see the value of PBS, NPR, Pell Grants, museums, national parks, the Arts and other life-enhancing programs that supplement a decent education (which they arenít keen on spending much money on, either).

Itís members of the GOP who think it is OK to erode the separation of Church and State (as long as you erode it in favor of Christians).

Itís the GOP who support things like Citizens United, calling corporations ďpeopleĒ and money ďfree speech.Ē

Itís the GOP who donít care that FOX News viewers are the most misinformed about current events and politics.

Itís the GOP who think that Bushís crappy policies and wild spending are irrelevant now that he has left office, but refer back to Lincoln and other historical political figures and try to claim their policies ARE relevant.

Itís the GOP who has members praising the idea of slavery as ďnot being so bad.Ē

Itís the GOP who hate the idea of Affirmative Action and civil rights, or who deny that discrimination even exists, and who think it should be okay for a businessperson to refuse to serve gay people or people of color if s/he chooses to.

Itís the GOP who claim that ďwhite women voting for Obama is just like black people voting for the KKK.Ē

Itís the GOP who claim that people vote for Obama just because they ďwant ďmore free crap.Ē

Itís the GOP who think that millionaires and corporations need government money and hand-outs, but the poor and needy do not.

Itís the GOP who has nut factions like Birthers and Tea Partiers.

Itís the GOP who insists on supporting outdated fossil fuel-based energy sources while sneering at alternative ideas.

Itís the GOP who tried to legislate that rising sea levels be an off-limit topic.

Itís the GOP who opposed the Lily Ledbetter fair pay law, and who try to meddle in womenĎs private medical decisions or oppose covering contraceptives with insurance while not blinking an eye that erectile dysfunction medication is covered.

Itís the GOP who keep trying to place Bible-based signs and displays in public (taxpayer-funded) or government buildings.

Itís the GOP who insist POTUS is a Kenyan Marxist Muslim Socialist Communist Atheist Manchurian Candidate Usurper-in-chief.

Itís the GOP who try to base their policies on both Ayn Rand and Jesus, despite the two having mutually exclusive values and ideas.

Itís the GOP who based their entire RNC theme on a comment from POTUS which was taken out of context, and who are airing similarly edited adverts that do not accurately reflect what was said or meant.

Itís the GOP who say things like ďsome girls rape easy.Ē

Itís the GOP who rally to deny gay people equal rights.

Itís the GOP who have some weird problem with feminists and think that treating women as equals makes your penis shrink.

Itís the GOP who has mouthpieces calling women ďsluts.Ē

Itís the GOP who scoff at the idea that there is some kind of Republican War On Women.

Itís the GOP, especially the Tea Party wing, which is freaking out some of our staunchest allies world-wide.

Itís the GOP who caused the United States to suffer a revised (lower) credit rating from Standard and Poorís.

Itís the GOP pushing abstinence-only sex ed, which is a failure.

Itís the GOP raising hell and blaming Obama whenever gas prices go up, while remaining oddly silent when they fallÖeven though speculation has a lot more to do with gas prices than anything any president does or doesnít do.

Itís the GOP signing pledges written by and listening to advice from un-elected nutjobs like Grover Norquist.

Itís the GOP protesting social safety net programs, while Red States consume the bulk of all social safety net programs.

Itís the GOP running ďshadow DemocratĒ puppet candidates to split votes or rig elections.

Itís the GOP who keep getting caught saying racist sh#t, or posting racist signs, or damaging or stealing yard signs.

Itís the GOP who insist humans and dinosaurs co-existed.

Itís the GOP who think Obama went on an ďapology tourĒ that never existed, while ignoring Romneyís ďinsult and offend tour.Ē

Itís the GOP who are proposing policies that have been examined by, among others, the non-partisan Tax Policy Center, and pronounced ďmathematically impossibleĒ and unworkable.

Itís the GOP who refuse to pay attention to fact checkers.

Itís the GOP who have been gunning for Medicare since day one.

Itís the GOP who have been caught calling Obama a Socialist who wants to take away Medicare, the same program they seek to gut or destroy.

Itís the GOP who wants to privatize Social Security, ignoring that it is doing just fine as is, and that privatization of Social Security prior to the 2008 bank collapse would have ruined anyone relying on Social Security to survive.

Itís the GOP who resist raising the payroll tax ceiling (FICA) that funds Social Security, locking it at 97k/year (Iím told that this has been raised to a little over $1o6k/year, which is still nowhere near the proposed minimum of $200k/year that Dubya resisted adopting), instead of raising or eliminating it, because they feel it is unfair to the rich, who should pay the same into Social Security even if they earn millions a year as someone earning 97k a year (or, now, a hair more than $106k a year).

Itís the GOP blocking jobs bills, including veteransĎ jobs bills.

Itís the GOP who ignore legitimate polls conducted by professional polling organizations when they donít go their way, while clinging to opinion polls hosted by conservative websites.

Itís the GOP who think ketchup and pizza are vegetables.

Itís the GOP who cry out for already-provided birth certificates (that no candidate has ever had to provide before) while ignoring that their candidate is hiding his tax returns (that every candidate since George Romney has traditionally provided), and who think college transcripts (that no candidate has ever had to provide before, and which cannot be shared freely with third parties due to federal law) are equal to tax returns.

Itís the GOP who think it is OK when their candidate is aggressive and lies, but cry foul when the Demís candidate is assertive, laughs, and tells the truth.

Itís the GOP who canít figure out why it is wrong to impose your personal religious beliefs on everyone by making those beliefs into legislation.

Itís the GOP who do not understand HOW BABBY IS FORMED.

Itís the GOP who pretend that the media has a ďliberal bias.Ē

Itís the GOP who espouse trickle-down / horse & sparrow economics and coddle the rich while sneering at the poor.

Itís the GOP who think ďpapers pleaseĒ laws are OK.

Itís the GOP who think privatizing prisons is a great idea.

Itís the GOP who think listening to our allies on any subject is weak.

Itís the GOP who think we care about what a bunch of chickenhawks have to say about starting new wars.

Itís the GOP who think we have too many police officers, fire-fighters, and teachers.

Itís the GOP who have tried privatizing social services like firefighting and policing, with devastating results (like burned-down homes).

Itís the GOP pushing the Welfare Queen myth and announcing that they donít give a crap about 47% of the population.

Itís the GOP going on witch hunts for Muslims and Communists.

Itís the GOP fighting unions and increasing the minimum wage.

Itís the GOP who encourage going after peaceful protesters with live ammunition and pepper spray.

Itís the GOP who support ALEC-backed laws like Stand Your Ground and who try to portray victims like Trayvon Martin as thugs.

Itís the GOP suggesting that we raise the retirement age.

Itís the GOP fighting healthcare.

Itís the GOP who believe in ďex-gayĒ therapy, which denies science and has been proven to be a failure.

Itís the GOP being obstructionist and filibustering and vowing to make Obama a ďone-term presidentĒ from day one.

Itís the GOP Photoshopping Obama into ďwitchdoctorĒ images and worse.

Itís the GOP who go around all butt-hurt and try to report websites, Facebook groups and individuals they disagree with.

Itís the GOP who propose we build a bigger wall between the US and Mexico and oppose the DREAM Act.

Itís the GOP who oppose even talking about gun ownership restrictions, and, in fact, recommend that every citizen be issued a Glock.

Itís the GOP who are forming groups specifically designed to harass people at polling sites.

Itís the GOP who attack fictional characters like Spongebob, The Lorax, Tinky-Winky, Dora the Explorer and Big Bird for ďbrainwashingĒ children.

Itís the GOP promoting the most clownish buffoons possible and pretending they are serious candidates for higher office.

Itís the GOP accusing non-partisan groups like the Tax Policy Center, NASA (and scientists in general), the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities of being partisan when facts do not concur with Republican talking points.

I could go on, but suffice it to say that I do not care one iota if the conservative world view once again fails to reflect reality or promotes bad ideas, or disagrees with my own worldview. They have a right to believe as they wish, but when they are wrong, as they often are, then I have a right to reject their nonsense. I am appalled every day to hear the amount of utter crap coming out of the mouths of some Republicans. They make the conservatives I know personallyĖwho are good peopleĖlook bad by association, and I am utterly sick of it.

Sad but true: reality has a liberal bias.

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Oct 14, 2012 - 10:28pm PT
On the subject of electronic voting fraud..When Bush got elected the 2nd time , the question on many people's mind was " who the f*#k voted for Bush "...? Many were baffled by Bush getting re-elected inspite of Kerry winning the popular vote...Are Americans really this stupid..? We need to clean house like the Icelanders have done...No more 2 party corporate selected candidate bull sh#t..It don't work...
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Oct 14, 2012 - 10:34pm PT
F*#k the GOP

If you are voting for Romney, congratulations - you are a dumb f*#k
Wear it proud

Oct 15, 2012 - 05:34am PT
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Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Oct 15, 2012 - 06:27am PT
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Vote GOP.
We built this.

Mitt Romney: The Empty Suit Clueless About the Empty Chair
Posted: 10/15/2012 8:39 am

Billy Koehler died on March 7, 2009, for lack of health insurance. Mitt Romney said on October 10, 2012, that's impossible.

The Republican nominee for president told the Columbus Dispatch last week:
We don't have people that become ill, who die in their apartment because they don't have insurance.

Technically, that's true of Billy Koehler. He didn't die in his apartment. He died in his car. Koehler suffered cardiac arrest and perished slumped over his steering wheel at a stop sign in Pittsburgh because he didn't have health insurance and didn't have $60,000 to replace his implanted defibrillator.
Romney, a quarter-billionaire born with a silver foot in his mouth, has shielded himself from the world in which America's many Billy Koehlers exist. Their paths don't naturally cross. Billy Koehlers don't hang out with Romney's NASCAR owner pals. Billy Koehlers don't disparage the nation's elderly and impoverished at fundraisers in the homes of private equity moguls. FDR and JFK made an effort to understand the joys and hardships of the non-rich. But Romney hasn't. And that's why he so carelessly called America's Billy Koehlers a deliberately dependent underclass, albeit one comprising47 percent of all citizens. Because Romney knows nothing of the lives of the nation's Billy Koehlers, the Republican nominee can dismiss their medical predicaments as nonexistent and assure wealthy donors he won't "worry about those people."

Romney told the Columbus newspaper that no one needs to worry about those lacking health insurance because federal law requires hospitals to treat emergency cases:
We don't have a setting across this country where if you don't have insurance, we say to you, 'Tough luck, you're going to die when you have your heart attack.

He continued:
No, you go to the hospital; you get treated; you get care, and it's paid for, either by charity, the government or by the hospital.

Logically, then, the solution would be for no one to buy insurance. Why bother? Hospitals must treat and bill someone else, according to Romney.
But it doesn't work that way. The late Billy Koehler is an example of how it actually operates -- how it fails to work for 26,100 to 45,000 Americans who die each year for lack of insurance.

Billy's sister, Georgeanne Koehler, a retired hospital worker and member of the Service Employees International Union, told his story at rallies for passage of Obamacare, taking with her an empty chair in his memory. She celebrated the law's passage in 2010, particularly its provision forbidding insurance companies from denying coverage to those with pre-existing conditions. That might have saved her brother.

Billy was just 39 when he suffered his first cardiac arrest. An electronics technician, he had health insurance through his employer, and that paid for surgery to implant a defibrillator. Still, over the years, Billy spent his entire $25,000 in pension savings on medical bills that insurance did not pay.

In 2003, Billy lost his job and his health insurance when the company he worked for closed. He tried to get another job with health insurance but could not. He tried to buy health coverage privately, but every insurer in Pennsylvania denied his request because of his pre-existing heart condition. He didn't qualify for Medicaid because he earned slightly too much money in his new job as a pizza delivery driver.

While at work on December 14, 2007, he collapsed in the pizza shop. He survived, but a cardiologist told him that his defibrillator needed to be replaced. Because Billy had no insurance, the doctor required payment up front.

Romney's right about one thing. The hospital treated Billy as an emergency cardiac arrest victim. But the hospital emergency room wasn't required to give him surgery to replace the defibrillator. And neither Billy, nor his sister, had $60,000 to pay for it out of pocket.

Less than two years later, as Billy drove home from work, he suffered cardiac arrest again. And he died. For lack of health insurance.

Under Obamacare, insurers can't deny coverage to people like Billy because of pre-existing conditions. Obamacare also established high-risk pools for people like Billy. And Obamacare will extend Medicaid to more low-income people like Billy.

Romney has pledged to repeal Obamacare on his first day in office. Like a 21st century Marie Antoinette, he says: Let 'em go to the emergency room.

Romney's prescription doesn't work. It wouldn't work for his own wife, Ann,who has multiple sclerosis and survived breast cancer. As quarter-billionaires, the Romneys have the best insurance in the world. But without it, a hospital emergency room would not have provided Ann Romney with the care she needed. Emergency rooms don't perform lumpectomies or radiation therapy. Emergency rooms don't provide therapy for fatigue, dizziness, numbness or paralysis caused by MS. Emergency rooms don't dispense MS drugs that can cost $3,000 a month. Romney's clearly unaware of the empty chair campaign. Not having health insurance or $60,000 for surgery is inconceivable to him. He bought his wife a $500,000 dressage horse for MS therapy, after all.

America can't afford to have in the White House an empty Armani who has made no attempt to find out what it's like to try to survive uninsured, who remains clueless about all the chairs in America emptied by lack of insurance. The nation can't afford a president so comatose to the lives of average Americans.

Gym climber
Oct 15, 2012 - 07:26am PT
US courts have consistently ruled that the software in electronic voting machines is proprietary to the manufacturer ...

Voting machine software must be open-source and the property of We the People.

A freshman computer science student could code the software for a voting machine--it'd be that easy.

You could use XML to describe each of the different ballots, easy as pie.

Do ATM machines have glitches like the voting machines do? You know they don't, and you know why.

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Oct 15, 2012 - 07:34am PT
And every ATM in the world gives a reciept of the transaction.

Social climber
Monza by the streetlight
Oct 15, 2012 - 08:31am PT
Just the simple truth. The extreme rightwing will destroy what's left of the Grand Experiment that was America.

The guy was incisive.
Dr. F.

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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 15, 2012 - 09:59am PT
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Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Oct 15, 2012 - 10:12am PT
I had a friend who died from a heart attack during a Mt. Bike ride with his jack russel...He was found by a fireman who was out hiking...The loyal dog was patiently waiting for his master to get up and continue riding...James , a skilled electrician , had a thyroid condition which enlarged his heart...he couldn't afford the medication that would help him live longer...Mitt Romney , the one man death panel...

Social climber
the Wastelands
Oct 15, 2012 - 03:15pm PT

Report: Charity President Objects To Paul Ryanís Soup Kitchen Photo Op

Brian J. Antal, the president of an Ohio charity for the homeless, is objecting to a photo op staged by the Romney campaign on Saturday that featured vice presidential running mate Paul Ryan washing pots and pans that had already appeared to be clean, Felicia Sonmez of the Washington Post reports:

ďWeíre a faith-based organization; we are apolitical because the majority of our funding is from private donations,Ē Antal said in a phone interview Monday afternoon. ďItís strictly in our bylaws not to do it. They showed up there and they did not have permission. They got one of the volunteers to open up the doors.Ē

He added: ďThe photo-op they did wasnít even accurate. He did nothing. He just came in here to get his picture taken at the dining hall.Ē http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014267581

Trad climber
Oct 15, 2012 - 03:23pm PT
I think we have identified the problem with Electronic Voting Machines. What is the solution?

I think it would be fairly easy for your voter registration number to be listed on a voting election website within seconds of your ballot being cast.
It should also have the ability to tally the votes in real time. Each voter could type in their registration number and who they voted for would come up.

With something similar to this we would be able to self police the election. Anybody else have an idea?

I have been afraid of stolen elections since the last one Bush Vs Gore.

Peace Eric

State of Mine
Oct 15, 2012 - 03:31pm PT
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Oct 15, 2012 - 03:32pm PT
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State of Mine
Oct 15, 2012 - 03:32pm PT
"Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi in her speech, praised Joe Biden, calling him the 'full package,' that's what she called him, that's the actual term she used, she called him the 'full package.' Now he's getting phone calls from Senator Larry Craig." --Jay Leno

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Oct 15, 2012 - 03:46pm PT
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