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Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2013 - 05:13pm PT
2 sides of the same coin?
One side are dumb as rocks and will believe anything their right wing media tells them, and answer all questions with a talking point made up in some right wing think tank

The other side, the intellectuals, students, professors, scientists, social workers, laborers, all critical thinkers that can sift through the BS and know the difference between what's good for the country and what's not

2 different coins all together

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Apr 1, 2013 - 06:14pm PT
By gosh, if republican politicians are so danged dead set against homosexuality and gay marriage they should simply stop having them.

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 1, 2013 - 06:24pm PT
Obama Proclaims April the Month to Teach Young People ‘How to Budget Responsibly’

April 1, 2013


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(CNSNews.com) - President Barack Obama, who has increased the national debt by $53,377 per household, has proclaimed April “National Financial Capability Month,” during which his administration will do things such as teach young people “how to budget responsibly."

“I call upon all Americans to observe this month with programs and activities to improve their understanding of financial principles and practices,” Obama said in an official proclamation released Friday.

“My Administration is dedicated to helping people make sound decisions in the marketplace,” he said.

"Together, we can prepare young people to tackle financial challenges--from learning how to budget responsibly to saving for college, starting a business, or opening a retirement account,” he said.

“My Administration continues to encourage responsibility at all levels of our financial system by cracking down on deceptive practices and ensuring that consumers are informed of their rights,” he said.

The proclamation on the White House website links to two other government websites: the site for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and MyMoney.gov, which includes materials from 21 federal agencies.

Listed among the “popular topics” on MyMoney.gov is “Managing Debt and Credit,” which includes a link to a page on the Federal Reserve’s website called “Getting the most from your credit card.” Tip 2 on that page is: “Stay Below Your Credit Limit.”

When Obama was inaugurated on Jan. 20, 2009, the total debt of the federal government was $10,626,877,048,913.08. As of the close of business on March 28, 2013, the total debt of the federal government was $16,766,988,432,792.62—an increase of $6,140,111,383,879.54 since Obama took office.

That means that under Obama the federal debt has increased $53,377 for each one of the 115,031,000 households the Census Bureau says there are now in the United States. The president is required by law to submit a budget proposal for the next fiscal year by the first Monday in February.

Thus far, Obama has not submitted his budget proposal for fiscal 2014.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 1, 2013 - 06:36pm PT
Six months later, where are the Benghazi survivors?
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Today marks six months since the September 11, 2012 terrorist attacks on the U.S. compounds in Benghazi, Libya in which four Americans were killed, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens. Some watchdog groups, members of the media and Republican members of Congress are asking: Where are the more than two dozen U.S. personnel who survived the attack but haven't been seen nor heard from in public since? There were also an undisclosed number of witnesses at the U.S. compounds in Tripoli but they also have not spoken publicly.

In a recent press report, Secretary of State John Kerry said he visited one survivor at "Bethesda hospital," and referred to him a "remarkably courageous person who is doing very, very well." Kerry added, "I've called his wife and talked to her." But the identities, condition and testimony of the survivors and witnesses have been closely held from the public.

Source: Press officers partly responsible for Benghazi talking points changes
White House declines to release images from night of Benghazi attacks
Republicans demanded more information about Benghazi in recent weeks before they would agree to allow Obama Administration nominees to move forward in the Senate. A source familiar with material turned over to the Senate Intelligence Committee by the Obama Administration in response tells CBS News that long sought-after FBI transcripts of some survivors were included but had been "blacked out" or redacted. Three Senate Republicans including Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., say they want the survivors to be made available for interviews about what happened the night of the attacks.

Meanwhile, a State Department review board found that despite requests from Stevens for more security prior to the attack, there were no military resources in place close enough to come to the rescue of Americans during the attack. Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Martin Dempsey testified that troops have been placed on a higher state of alert since then.

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton testified in January she was unaware of Stevens' unmet security requests. She said the highest ranking official who received them at the State Department was undersecretary Patrick Kennedy. Former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Dempsey said they were aware of Stevens' requests and concerns.

At a press conference on November 14, 2012, President Obama stated that his administration has provided all information regarding "what happened in Benghazi." **Yet, when CBS News asked for White House photos from the night of the attacks, surveilla
CBS News has filed multiple Freedom of Information requests for Benghazi-related material, but none has been provided. Judicial Watch, a watchdog group, is suing the U.S. government in an attempt to receive some of the denied information.nce video that was promised last November, and answers to outstanding questions, a White House official told us that there would be no further comment.**

© 2013 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Apr 1, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
So therefore we can assume that almost everything you know is Wrong.

Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2013 - 08:14pm PT
Well maybe not wrong about everything, but wrong about too much when it comes to politics

Hey rick, what's my old bro Stewart Johnson doing these days, we did a bunch of routes back in the day when I lived on the North Shore

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 1, 2013 - 08:36pm PT

Sometimes LA
Apr 1, 2013 - 08:58pm PT

190 back to the pipe yet?
Dave Kos

Social climber
Apr 1, 2013 - 09:45pm PT
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 1, 2013 - 09:55pm PT
Well Dave,, Obama also promised "transparency" .. Benghazi hasnt been transparent to say the least. Why havent we heard from a single survivor?

They have fed gag orders thats why..

And why the gag orders?? you tell me.

SF bay area
Apr 1, 2013 - 09:58pm PT
Er, um, cuz they are CIA.

Please, please, put me on TV, then send me out on a mission.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Apr 1, 2013 - 11:22pm PT
A black man—Barack Obama—sits in the Oval Office. A black woman—Oprah Winfrey—joins Warren Buffett and Bill Gates on the Forbes magazine list of richest individuals in the world. A black couple—Jay-Z and Beyonce—own a basketball team and buy an $80,000 diamond-encrusted Barbie doll for their one-year-old daughter. With such examples of impressive success and vulgar excess it’s easy to think that America’s long history of racial inequality has come to an end.

But then along comes a Brandeis University study showing that even as racial inequalities in terms of education and income have narrowed, the gap in wealth between black and white families has dramatically widened. Between 1985 and 2009, the gap in wealth between white and black families nearly tripled. It may be tempting to imagine that poor choices or lack of a work ethic can explain the disparity, but the study found that for the most part, the wealth gap is not the result of differences in education, diligence, or lifestyle. Instead, inheritance, financial support from wealthy family members, and early homeownership in predominantly white neighborhoods make the difference.

Much of the wealth gap is due to residential segregation. Non-white neighborhoods have lower home values. For decades, government policy at the local, state, and federal level either enforced racial segregation or else encouraged it. By the time the federal government finally stopped encouraging segregation, in the 1950s, the damage was done. Despite decades of fair housing laws, audits still find discrimination in lending and insurance, and too many real estate agents quietly steer prospective buyers to neighborhoods based on race. The Brandeis study found that disparities in home equity account for almost 30 percent of the wealth gap.

The effects of segregation are compounded by the disparity between what white and black families can offer their offspring in financial support. The study found that “because whites are far more able to give inheritances or family assistance for down payments due to historical wealth accumulation, white families buy homes and start acquiring equity an average of eight years earlier than black families.” In addition, “larger up-front payments by white homeowners lower interest rates and lending costs.”

The wealth gap shows us how long-ago injustices still affect society today. Thanks to civil rights laws and improved racial attitudes, the income gap between black and whites with similar levels of education has narrowed (although similar levels of education still yield more wealth for white families). But the wealth gap reflects disparities that are generations old. Civil rights laws and the decline of racism have not—and cannot—narrow this gap. Meanwhile, market forces have compounded it, much in the way the interest rate multiplies the value of a long-held investment. To put it another way, even if two snowballs are rolling down a hill at the same speed, the one that started larger will accumulate much more snow.

The authors of the Brandeis study write that the racial wealth gap is the civil rights issue of the 21st century. In a sense, they’re right. But, unlike government-enforced segregation and overt discrimination, the wealth gap cannot be fixed with civil rights laws prohibiting discrimination. After all, the wealthy white parents who pay their kid’s way through medical school or help her buy her first house aren’t discriminating against black Americans; they’re helping their kid in a way that anyone would if they could. The law can’t do much about the factors that contribute to neighborhood segregation, either. The current patterns of segregation have been around since the Jim Crow era, and they are maintained in part by the preferences of people of all races for culturally similar neighbors and in part by subtle discrimination in selling and lending—the type of discrimination that is hardest to spot and to stop.

Of course, the most direct response to the wealth gap would be a policy of reparations. But reparations are politically and practically infeasible, however just they might be in theory. Statistics can reveal a societal injustice like the wealth gap, but they give us no idea of precisely which individuals have suffered the injustice, much less which have unjustly benefited. And as a political matter, redistribution of wealth should be determined by need, not according to injuries suffered long ago by people long dead. Few Americans would support the payment of reparations to Jay-Z or Beyonce, even if their ancestors were slaves or sharecroppers.

Finally, as with so many of today’s injustices, the problem of the wealth gap involves more than just race. The gap in wealth between the wealthiest and poorest Americans, regardless of race, has widened dramatically in recent years. Blacks are disproportionately poor because of racial injustice, past and present. At the same time, if we go from group level down to an individual level, poor whites with few job prospects and no inherited wealth face many of the same challenges as poor blacks with few job prospects and no inherited wealth. All are prey to a winner-take-all economy in which the gap that separates an investment banker—or Oprah, Jay-Z, and Beyonce—from an hourly employee at Wal-Mart keeps growing. Perhaps, therefore, the civil rights movement of the 21st century started with Occupy Wall Street.

Richard Thompson Ford is professor of law at Stanford University and author of Rights Gone Wrong: How Law Corrupts the Struggle for Equality and The Race Card: How Bluffing About Bias Makes Race Relations Worse.

Dave Kos

Social climber
Apr 1, 2013 - 11:42pm PT
A black couple—Jay-Z and Beyonce—own a basketball team and buy an $80,000 diamond-encrusted Barbie doll for their one-year-old daughter.

[...] the gap in wealth between black and white families has dramatically widened.

And of course the solution is to deny my half-white/half-asian children college admissions in favor of someone else, simply because of the color of their skin.


Trad climber
Apr 2, 2013 - 01:58pm PT
Stockman's call: Get out of market now


Market indicator favored by Buffett flashes red

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 2, 2013 - 02:09pm PT
Mono,, many of those survivors were simply GS govt employees ,, NOT CIA.... try again...
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2013 - 04:36pm PT
What witnesses at Benghazi?

Even if there were some, what would they be covering up and not talking about?

Oh, yah, now I remember, they are covering up the things that Fox News and some wack jobs Made Up, Obama won't release the thing that they know he is hiding,
Too bad McCain has already been burned at the stake for his epic fail after he found out that it was all made up, I wonder when rong will get the message, probably never, he will just keep harping on it as it makes him more and more like an idiot

rong, it's hard to release information about cover ups and conspiracies that Don't exist

the hook in your mouth must hurt with all that constant pulling

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Apr 2, 2013 - 05:07pm PT
And of course the solution is to deny my half-white/half-asian children college admissions in favor of someone else, simply because of the color of their skin.


The implicit fact in your statement should cause us more shame. In California in particular, the minority most discriminated against historically remains east Asians. The Japanese internment was only one of many racist actions against Asians. They were preceded by anti-Chinese laws, and a host of other outrageous, hate-inspired, laws, customs and actions.

I suspect it surprised few of us that when we removed race as an admission criterion for the University of California, Asian enrollment increased substantially at all of the most prestigious U.C. campuses. In other words, until we explicitly removed race as an admissions criterion, we continued our governmental discrimination against Asians -- and almost no one seems embarrassed by that.

Then again, maybe it shows that those whom the government tries to help would do best to shun that help!



SF bay area
Apr 2, 2013 - 05:08pm PT
Anderson and his exaggerated declarations is laughable.

It was a CIA organized rescue, from a CIA safehouse. No gov employee is going to go to the media to talk about what happened so some wingnut like your self can stop whining about it.

Only security personnel were rescued from the diplomatic site. They lose their jobs if they go to the media.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 2, 2013 - 05:31pm PT
You sound much like Nixons staff Mono..

Must burn ya a little to know i predicted every damm thing that took place - the day after the attacks.

Local officials involved- yup
co-ordinated attack and NOTHING to do with some jack wagon vid? YUP While some here were yammering on about that video at the same time.
Then,, Billary took the fall- as also predicted. Never mind a son of a freind of mine that was an officer on a fast team fairly close by that situation that WOULD have been there long before 7 hours was up..That whole scene wreeaks to high heaven. Just like finnacning BOTH sides of the Israeli/Syria shyt. Our foreign policies are a nightmare embarassment.


SF bay area
Apr 2, 2013 - 05:41pm PT
Nice to see Benghazi Ron is back. YeeeeHawwww!
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