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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 30, 2011 - 05:20pm PT
Thread by request so heres some samples of what i do, and do so out of love and intense interest for wildlife. It may be one of the hardest jobs to do at the least per hour you can think of.

18 foot nile croc
18 foot nile croc
Credit: Ron Anderson

Credit: Ron Anderson

3.5 lb brook trout reproduction
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Sep 30, 2011 - 05:21pm PT
Hey I'm curious about one thing Ron... do you get a lot of requests from folks to stuff their dearly departed pet dogs? I saw a good judge judy about a botched pet stuff and the weirdo woman had the lil pooch in her freezer AS EVIDENCE hahahaha.

Have you ever done a horse, like Trigger? (that sounds beastial! lol)

DMT

ps. just light hearted questions. While I am not the sort who would engage your services I really think your action poses like the cat with the, what is that, a chukar, anyway, I think those are really a step above most anything else I've seen
Gene

climber
Sep 30, 2011 - 05:22pm PT
Ron,

Is that the before or after shot of that croc?

Thanks for the thread. You have some very serious skills and talent.

g
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 05:28pm PT
You bet Gene!

and Dingus, yes the "pet market" has increased drastically and it all started in,,,,,New York city lol! Ive only done one black FAT cat in the previous years. I COULD NEVER do one of my own, and we charge a hefty price for these 100% custom mounts . It is one of THE most difficult jobs you can do, and Ive sweat like a whore in confession each and every time Ive worked on one, as people are INTAMATLY familiar with their dear departed, they have to be ,, pardon the pun,, "dead on".....
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 05:31pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson
worlds smallest antelope, a "suni" from africa abut 14" high


Credit: Ron Anderson
4lb rainbow trout

Credit: Ron Anderson

an african "Duiker rock scene"

Credit: Ron Anderson

detail of repro rock





Gene

climber
Sep 30, 2011 - 05:34pm PT
You do Aliens too?

Credit: Gene
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Sep 30, 2011 - 05:36pm PT
Nope! Chuck Testa.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJP1DphOWPs

I think this guy has done more for bringing attention to the profession than anyone in a long while. He's an internet meme now.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nope-chuck-testa

Ron, make a Youtube video for your business as well sometime.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 05:41pm PT
No kidding there !!! Actually, hes a freind of mine in California,,, and that was a BRILLIANT ploy!!

and Gene, for a price aliens are nooo prblem!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 05:44pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

This was a combo of another taxidermist and myself, i did the finish work on the sheep as well as the habitat and rock work, which is at the top of concourse B stairway in the Reno airport...Mural was by Reno artist Chris Lacey.

Credit: Ron Anderson

Mtn lion face, slight snarl...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 05:54pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

buffle head drake

Credit: Ron Anderson
Nv bobcat

Credit: Ron Anderson

gobble gobble gobble!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 05:57pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

an african Genet (cat family)

Credit: Ron Anderson

shop foreman,, ya never know where the little baztard will pop out of!

Credit: Ron Anderson
california quail...


The user formerly known as stzzo

Social climber
Sep 30, 2011 - 06:01pm PT
Ok...

Apparently I know nary about taxidermy.

The mtn lion didn't have a snarl on it's face when you got it, right? How does one shape a dead animal's face like that?

Nice work!
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Sep 30, 2011 - 06:04pm PT
In general, stuffed animals creep me out (I'm soft). A nightmare trip for me is to one of those Cabelas or Bass Pro Shops (or whatever store). STUFFED ANIMALS EVERYWHERE! I asked a clerk there why the human clothes were hung on fake humans instead of stuffed ones. Seems only fair to have taxidermied (sp?) people in there too.

They have NO sense of humor.

Though the stuff I've seen in the past has bugged me, your work is beautiful and the animals don't look even a tiny bit freaky. I can't even look at the Cougar - I have actual fear looking at it - VERY realistic and scary!
apogee

climber
Sep 30, 2011 - 06:06pm PT
The whole premise is pretty conflicting to me, but that aside, that looks like nice work, Ron.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 06:25pm PT
Stzzo, it is in the sculpting work that is done in ceramic clay on top of a commercial form that has been resized to the cat. Taxidermists have to be sculptors, painters, have composition and color co-ordination skills, basic carpentry and design skills and be able to see anatomy and symmetry. That separates those who try and those that can. It takes a lot of earning your dues, and attention to detail and reference.

Apogee, no conflict at all, ill let ya think on it for a mo..;-)


Crimpie! Coming from you with your general feelings,,,,that IS A VERY nice compliment!

this one is for you, a European Jay
Credit: Ron Anderson
WBraun

climber
Sep 30, 2011 - 06:28pm PT
What a Pro!!!

Awesome Ron .......
locker

Social climber
CO
Sep 30, 2011 - 06:28pm PT


and then there's THIS...

photo not found
Missing photo ID#219231
...

LOL!!!...



locker

Social climber
CO
Sep 30, 2011 - 06:29pm PT


Even online it's easy to tell that your work is of high quality...

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 06:41pm PT
thaDood, UNFORUNATLY in THIS country, all protected species are ILLEGAL to posess regardless of circumstance, without a permit from the USFWS, and they only give those out to learning institutions, museums, nature centers etc,, and some NA tribal members. All the MILLIONS of raptors and song birds hit on aour nations roadways must go to waste basically. Canada does it differently there, and those road kills are considered part of the countries "treasure", and you could easily get a permit for it. (sigh).. Being a taxidermist, i also have to be up to date on the CFRS , USFWS regulations,as well as Cites, lacey act and State laws regarding wildlife, which are VOLUMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!


and THANKS FOLKS! Wasnt sure how this was going to "go down" lol!


i have like 110 files of pictures...lemme know if theres something particular youd like to see lol...
strangeday

Trad climber
Brea ca.
Sep 30, 2011 - 06:45pm PT
That is beautiful, and I'm sure painstaking work. I always get joy out of seeing people who can practice their art for a living, regardless of the medium they choose...thanks for sharing.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 30, 2011 - 06:48pm PT
your work is of excellent quality. I've seen plenty of taxidermy that by comparision is mediocre at best. That bufflehead is superb as is that cougar. It reminds me of comparing Lansdowne to the vast majority of other wildlife painters. I've tried my hand at it myself so I have a sense for the difficulty in attaining such superb replication. way to go
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Sep 30, 2011 - 07:01pm PT
Very good looking stuff, Ron.

The mountain lion, bobcat, and that african cat look alive!!! They're all good, but those struck me.

That reno airport scene kick ass too.
Kalimon

Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
Sep 30, 2011 - 07:13pm PT
Beautiful work Ron!

The repro rock shot is really amazing.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 07:15pm PT
Tanx All! I did want to say that i started this thread with a wee bit o hesitation as i didn't want to offend anyone! ANd thaDood, i went past a western tanager laying on hgwy 50 just yesterday.. Its shameful these go to waste as they do..The laws became to be in the early 1900s over the fashion industry and particularly, ladies hats. They are antiquated and irresponsible in today's times, but without a lobbyist, my industry remains chocked.


Ive been lucky to work at one of the largest studios in existence in Reno, Animal Artistry by Mike Boyce, where i was a salaried supervisor and when i left, we were doing 240K per month of finished pieces delivered. It was experience that you can only find there. I worked on specimens from nearly every country in existence. I've had a part time biz since i was 12 then full time for the last twenty some years.
BurnRockBurn

climber
South of Black Rock City (CC,NV)
Sep 30, 2011 - 07:18pm PT
Is your shop in moundhouse. ?
Would like to see your stuff and talk climbing sometime soon. PM me
Shawn
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 07:21pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

yawning pine marten

this TINY lil mount won six major awaards, including best of show. Sometimes big things come in teensie packages..(yeah,, where have i used that line before !!1;-))
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Sep 30, 2011 - 07:31pm PT
Damn, Ron!

That Pine Marten is awesome!!!!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Sep 30, 2011 - 07:40pm PT
Ya know, I got to thinking about this after looking at some of Ron's awesome life-like work, but I think there is some awesome educational value in these works.

Imagine these in a school setting. Gettng to examine awesome wild specimens up close without danger, and without looking at a dead animal corpse. Taxidermy is the best of both worlds for curious children who may never see these specimens.

They can actually sit an examine them, and study them.

I know some people hate seeing dead animals and don't agree with taxidermy, but think of the educational value, man!!!

Kids would totally dig it!!! And it doesn't really encourage killing animals.
neversummer

Trad climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
Sep 30, 2011 - 08:07pm PT
Very cool.
What are some of the values $$ of the different animals once you have finished them ?
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Sep 30, 2011 - 08:16pm PT
Ron - I was worried my post would come across even a tiny bit negative and it was not intended to! Glad it wasn't. My thoughts were designed to demonstrate that I feel your work is spectacular! They are all beautiful animals and your worked has really preserved that.

Still won't look at the cougar though. It scares me! So real.

Questions if you don't mind. Who are your clients? Hunters? Museums? Cabelas? Do you think most have get an animal with this outcome in mind? I'm curious how the animals ends up with you.

How did you learn to do this? Is it a family thing? How long have you been at it? Did you always know you wanted to do this? I guess you had no family member try to feed you to the giant hairy boar mounted on the wall in the middle of the night (my family *does* have a sick sense of humor).

Thanks in advance! Interesting stuff.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Sep 30, 2011 - 08:16pm PT
Ron: Thanks for sharing the great photos of the work you do.

I teased Heidi about having our 19 year old cat-son stuffed, after he died last spring. Told her I wanted the jaws to open and recorded meows to issue forth.

She wasn't amused.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Sep 30, 2011 - 08:40pm PT
A parrot shop in Houston had all their deceased birds stuffed around the shop. There were a lot of them. Bleck!

What creeped me out most was that they were all super dusty from sitting on shelves. It seemed like they should have just wiped them off. Or maybe not? What's the proper care of something like that?

splitclimber

climber
Sonoma County
Sep 30, 2011 - 08:58pm PT
very cool Ron.

I'm a wildlife biologist and can really appreciate your work.

blue - you're right, great educational purposes, not only for identification but also a respect and admiration for the animal.

if you're ever up in Humboldt County, go to the wildlife department at HSU and look around for a while.
Allen Hill

Social climber
CO.
Sep 30, 2011 - 09:02pm PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJP1DphOWPs
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 10:23pm PT
Sorry guys & gals, had to go make a delivery lol! As per the questions, Yes indeed ive done many student seminars around schools, boy scout groups etc etc. I donate mounts to "hunt of a lifetime" programs for ill children, so on and so forth. Also do seminars on taxidermy itself through out the country at times, as well as my shop. I learned through a home taxudermy book by shooters bible, circa late 60s and it went from there. Im really NEVER satisfied with pieces though which is a good thing for keeping the creative fire going i suppose. Clients vary, ESPECIALLY now, but i have out fitters that recomend me for a percentage, and local word of mouth reference from freinds and customers, as well as the internet. Ive had to shift priorities to doing wholesale for other taxidermists these days with the crappy economy around here and i have wholesale clients scattered through out the country..I sort of well known in my industry..

edit:Neversummer, the vaulues or costs vary greatly..A bobcat for instance is 995.00 on a basic habitat. If you wanted it wall mounted thats a bit more, and the more habitat to the scene, the higher the price. I sold a world show competition piece of five quail for 5200.00 Lots of variance!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 10:32pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson
double wolf piece they stood over 6' on the base...
Credit: Ron Anderson

in progress pronghorn antelope, clay had neen added to correct the form, make gland tucks, eye orbits and jaw lines which lack in mannikins. All these things must be learned through hands on study of skinned reference. I even add a flesh colored septum to the interior of the nostrils..

Credit: Ron Anderson

HUGE brownie
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 30, 2011 - 10:39pm PT
Ron...Can you do chimpanzees ?
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 30, 2011 - 10:41pm PT
All these things must be learned through hands on study of skinned reference.

I took a class once in my misspent youth from a prof. that had received his masters in fine arts from one of the major Calif universities. It was the only one that had a dissecting anatomy class, (same one premeds took) as a required course.

Sorta thinned out the herd.

Amazing work there.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 10:55pm PT
as per chimpanzees, Yes, from zoos or legally owned private sources. Not wild...Ive never done one myself, but i did work on a orangutan skin that was forty years old for a museum..

and yes TGT, there is much to this that is uhhh,,,non-glamorous for SURE!


Credit: Ron Anderson

this piece was done for NDOW for thier Elko office, where a lot of my work is displayed. A prarie falcon and rosey finch, both road kills picked up by game wardens. it is in progress drying then went on habitat etc..
Footloose

Trad climber
Lake Tahoe
Sep 30, 2011 - 11:18pm PT
Cool work, Ron. Once again, we led similar paths bitd. I learned as a teen through Northwest(ern) Taxidermy School. Couldn't wait as a kid to get shipments of glass eyes, woodwool and tanning chemicals. It was a great experience. My favorites were coyote hides, coots, rabbits, a cub bear. Never attempted a fish. Also mounted a couple of hawks and a Great Horned Owl picked up down by Cradlebaugh Bridge. It was only a few years back a couple of jays got into the garage and picked the owl apart. Which I had up on the shelf for 35 years - talk about dusty! Otherwise I'd post a pic of it. Miss jepedos in CC. Too bad we didn't hook up - climbing and taxi together as teens would've been fun!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 11:22pm PT
No chyt Shawn! Of course, my teens might have been a little earlier that your teens...lol!
nature

climber
back in Tuscon Aridzona....
Sep 30, 2011 - 11:35pm PT
TFPU
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 11:38pm PT
thanks Riley! I do have work scatterd around varoous nature centers, public offices and museums like Carson, and Elko museums etc..Many places back east have pieces of mine as well..I just did a HYBRID brewers blackbird X common grackle for a nature center in MO..
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Sep 30, 2011 - 11:38pm PT
Interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing!
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Sep 30, 2011 - 11:39pm PT
My landlord was a hunter. He has about 10 animals mounted. Sitting in his house sometimes weirds me out. I don't fully understand hunting. At least not for things you don't eat.

Like Crimpie though, I think your work has a beauty to it.


A friend of mine carves wood birds. They are sort of simple carvings, yet he has a knack for capturing their beauty. You also have a knack for capturing these animals beauty. I imagine it was a fairly rigorous learning process.

More birds please and thanks for posting this. It is interesting.


Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 11:40pm PT
pleasure is all mine Crimpie!!



Credit: Ron Anderson

this one was second in world at the 2007 World competition in Reno. 48 states and 57 countries in over 500 pieces. I sold it for 5200.00 right after the show..
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Sep 30, 2011 - 11:45pm PT
Brings whole new meaning to that one phrase "take this job and stuff it.."

Good work, takes guts to do that, or rather remove guts to do that

;-)

Karl
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 11:48pm PT
Moosie,, heres some more "boids".



Credit: Ron Anderson

close up af a chukar partridge which appeared in an instructional book by Frank Newmyer, five time world champion bird taxidermist along with five or six other guys me being one of em circa 89/90?


IF you look closely, you will even see a nicitating membrane in the front corner of the eye lid which has also been rebuilt and air brushed along with bill...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 30, 2011 - 11:57pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson


Credit: Ron Anderson

Hybrid Brewers/grackle :-)

custom colored eyes to match speciman. Not a luecistic grackle evidenced by skull shape, tail length and other abnormalities.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 12:16am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

african Cape Weaver

sorry for tiny pic, photo bucket is all of a sudden doing this now..??


ok if i load straight from files..
locker

Social climber
CO
Oct 1, 2011 - 12:18am PT


You have probably already answered this question...

If so, I missed it...

But what are the things sticking out of the animals that look like straws???...

Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 1, 2011 - 12:19am PT
i wanna see a dead monkey.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 12:20am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

an african olvie thrush, very much looking like our NA Robin!


edit: Locker, those are "euro pins" from germany, plastic handled tiny SHARP AZZ pins made just for "dermy"..
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Oct 1, 2011 - 12:21am PT
They are electrodes Locker, for when Ron is ready to take over the world. He is actually an evil genius and he plans to bring all of his creations back to life where they will devour their owners.

So far he has animals in all the democrats houses.


sorry ron, for exposing your plan..

002.5
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 12:27am PT
they laughed at Dr Doolittle, but ill have his revenge! MUwaahahahaaaa!

Credit: Ron Anderson
this Pintail drake was done for a client 36 years ago, and was recently brought in to be cleaned.. Kind of a rookie mount, but they stand the test of time - i take great measures to make them as bug proof /bombproof as possible..
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 12:36am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson
a feshly mounted Woodcock...( oh--boy) Many dermists consider this bird to be among the hardest to mount, as their skin in spots is thin enough to see your finger print clearly through...(electrodes/pins are holding everything in place while it dries...then they get put onto the "habitats"..
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 1, 2011 - 12:37am PT
thats paper mache, man

what you you tryin to pull?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 12:40am PT
sorry Spock, no dead money shots, ive done a few different species, but they are under another shop with copy rights. Gotta respect the fellow artist and all...

Riley id bet they are close in dna. Several african raptors look amzingly like NA species also!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 12:48am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

how bout some fake sierra granite!! Not so oddly, climbing transcended into my art -who is more familiar with UP CLOSE details of various rock types than CLIMBERS!!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 12:51am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

BIG ol Brownie...You EARN your pay when you do one of these solo....
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 1, 2011 - 12:52am PT
that thing is still alive,,

you bastards!

no wait...

he's dead.

the face looks like fred flintstone on crack
locker

Social climber
CO
Oct 1, 2011 - 12:54am PT

How much of what was originally in the bear, is still in the bear???...






EDITED:

That has got to be one hell of a LOT of work...

John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Oct 1, 2011 - 12:56am PT
That is one big bear.

I walked into a black bear walking home one night. Pitch black, no flash light and the bear was crossing the road I was walking down. Neither of us saw the other until I walked right into him. He was waste high.

that is a lot bigger bear..
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 12:59am PT
Locker, the SKIN claws pads nose pad part of the lips is all real. IUnder neath is a form that weighs about 220 lbs and about ten pounds of clay hide paste etc plus the skin itself weighs about 80 lbs....Thats about an 1100 lb brown bear from Russia...
apogee

climber
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:00am PT
Dude....my conflict is resolved.

You are a true artiste!
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:02am PT
those bear parts get big bucks in bangcock

13 womaen and only one man in town,
locker

Social climber
CO
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:02am PT

Amazing...

Impressive...(talking about the work you do)
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:03am PT
quit with the kiss ass
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 01:05am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

freshly monted pheasant(standard Chinese) i did during an "online" lesson...
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:08am PT
i got bing crosby in my basement, can you stuff him?

would you pack him?



locker

Social climber
CO
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:09am PT


So with all of the animals, there is a form of sorts inside...

How does a customer choose the way there kill turns out???...



Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:10am PT
there is a free prize inside every stuft pizza
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 01:13am PT
Thanks again folks, and Apogee, and all,, it really thrills me to be able so show you some glimpses of this art form. And to get compliments from folks that wont ever think about having something like this validates that it is indeed an art form. Art trancends...Ive been trying for years, and hopefully for many more..Its a tough biz though. Some may wonder if im on the puter all day, but Im at the shop so much that i simply dash acrss the showroom then back into the shop..Its handy living where yu work...that, and running a small biz in this economy is enough to keep you STRESSED out of yer gord, just trying to get some customers to pay.. Sometimes half my day is spent on skype..:-/


edit: Locker, i have tons of reference, pictures etc, that ive built up over the year, opr they bring in their own pic and go "i want this'.. And thats what they will get. I can do 100% alterations, or simply carve my own mannikin from the carcass frozen into position. I try to get them to leave a lot of the presentation to myself,,because well,, it works better that way lol!
apogee

climber
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:15am PT
It must be trippy having all those animal parts laying around staring at you all day long...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 01:18am PT
Apogee, after forty some years, it really is just a normal thing lol! Even my parrot is completely at home with the whole thing! Its a craft that started with the Indians here on the continent. Roots in Europe as old as the 1400s.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:21am PT
can you do michael jackson?

locker

Social climber
CO
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:24am PT

Ron...

Thanks for taking the time to answer my many questions...






EDITED:

"can you do michael jackson?"...

Rumor has it YOU already did...

;-)

John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:24am PT
Not much to do with Michael Jackson. he was already mostly embalmed by the time he kicked it.

..

Ron.. show us some forms and what it looks like when you first start. I would love to see the bear form and skin.
locker

Social climber
CO
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:25am PT

"show us some forms and what it looks like when you first start. I would love to see the bear form and skin."...

Ditto!!!...

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 01:32am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

a near record Stienbock from Africa (another antelope specie)

ok ill se what i can find on "naked forms"...
bergbryce

Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:35am PT
Nice work.
I never took anything worth mounting, got lots of 4, 5, 6 pt skull mounts hanging in the barn though!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 01:45am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

a 15 foot croc form, much of the muscle detail is built on in mache and clay...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 01:48am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson
naked bobcat..

ps, Im afraid the best i could EVER do on Micheal Jackson was a REPRODUCTION ..;-D
locker

Social climber
CO
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:49am PT

How the hell did you learn all that stuff???...

John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:51am PT
I knew it. YOu work for area 51. You are embalming aliens.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 01:53am PT
By going through the school of HARD knocks, and doing it EVERY wrong way FIRST then finally like a blind sow,, one finds the "acorn"..;-) That and a life of observation of wildlife coupled with going to countless taxidermy comps from coast to coast coupled with working with other great artists at some of the shops coupled with trial, error and lots of imagination.....



Moosie,,,i mounted an alien for em already,, they had it straddling a chair like Demi Moore in strip tease,, sick f*ckers anyhow....
locker

Social climber
CO
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:56am PT

Pretty cool Ron...

Seriously...


Thanks again!!!...





EDITED:

",,,i mounted an alien"...


If only I could be so lucky...

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 02:04am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

Credit: Ron Anderson

Credit: Ron Anderson

100% alterations on a mtn lion. This entailed a complete re-sizing of the form in length, and girth and total reposing as it was attached to th hind quarter of a desert big horn sheep with the out stretched paw, and the sheep had only one hoof attachment to the rock base.. these type of mounts and alterations are accomplished by only about ten percent of the taxidermists out there. I was doing this as a seminar at another shop...After this, the form got all parts foamed together, rasped down and muscle detail carved into it ready for clay mache and the skin. It took two days to alter and mount the lion...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 02:10am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

the whole shebang, sheep was also altered 100% for the scene. It went onto a three foot high turn table base and slowly rotates. You can see the male/female square stock steel that runs from the cat, then mates into the sheep and out the left rear leg/hoof of the sheep. In the finished piece, it looked as if there was onlt two inches of the R/L hoof touching and the cat magically suspended frm its right rear hip...
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 1, 2011 - 02:12am PT
now we see artwork.

very good my man.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 02:16am PT
Thanks Doc! Its very refreshing to be "judged" by a crowd here- as climbers tend to be nature lovers and have a critical eye...

ill get back to more finished pieces lol! Hope its staying interesting...Only the tip of a mt everest of crap i know on the subject!
The user formerly known as stzzo

Social climber
Oct 1, 2011 - 02:38am PT
I'm a nature lover, and opposed to sport hunting.

Though I don't like how a lot of stuffed animals get dead in the first place, I still appreciate the artfulness of your work.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 02:38am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

You may recognize the guy on the right side of the pic. This was at Animal Artistry back around 2002..Im next to him, 2nd from right, with the gloves on..
anyone got a guess?

edit: has to do with "metal"....
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Oct 1, 2011 - 02:48am PT
My dear friend might have a job for you!
My dear friend might have a job for you!
Credit: Karl Baba
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 1, 2011 - 02:51am PT
Karl rocks!

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 02:54am PT
No guesses on the mystery man i pointed out??? cmon...! And Yes Karl, it can get UGLY when nature strikes back.!!
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 1, 2011 - 02:59am PT
nature is king sushi

dude can work 18 hours with a hangover, give it up,

Indianclimber3

Trad climber
Oct 1, 2011 - 03:03am PT
James hetfield?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 03:09am PT
DING DING....I knew him pretty well back then...Cool guy really...
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Oct 1, 2011 - 03:14am PT
Clearly very nice work Ron, even if I also can't deal with it relative to large mammals of any kind. Still, I am honestly curious how that croc got from the Nile to you.

As an aside - no aspect of climbing in Southern Illinois BITD was as frightening as hunting season - hundreds, if not thousands, of suburban and urban 'hunters' from St. Louis and Chicago would descend on the whole area and the result would usually be a carnage of inadvertant hunter-on-hunter violence.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 03:20am PT
Well, Nile cros are found throughout most of Africa. The hunters hunt them over there commonly in problem croc areas shoot one, it is skinned and salted dry there, goes through a quarentine periond, then dipped in a dust of GOD KNOWS what but is supposed ot be a standardized non lethal to humans....Then shipped back on a slow boat across the pond to a port of entry where a brokerage normally handles the paper work and inspections by USFWS. THEN it goes to a certified USDA taxidermist,moi,,and i send it to a commercial tannery to be tanned, then get it back and mount it...Its SPENDY and complicated. And Yes, the situaton you describe in Chytown can put a bad taste in ones mind...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 03:24am PT
Carl E Akeley, whos hero was John Muir..With his HAND KILLED Leopard i...
Carl E Akeley, whos hero was John Muir..With his HAND KILLED Leopard in Africa.
Credit: Ron Anderson

MR Karl Akeley Father of modern day taxidermy techniques, whose work graces the Smithsonian, and other prestigious museums around the world. Posing with a leopard he killed in Africa,,,,,with his bare hands..Born 1864. One of his main influences in life,,,John Muir...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 03:46am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

strutting ruffed grouse, one of my favorite birds
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 03:52am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

Yup...your basic "keet" supplied to me by a local pet store- shippng fatality.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 03:57am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

another ruffed grouse
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 1, 2011 - 04:06am PT
anybody stuffed a ghecko?

the gecko brothers?

clooney and tarentino?

amy winehouse
with a name like that...

Amy Jade Winehouse (14 September 1983 – 23 July 2011) was an English singer-songwriter known for her powerful deep contralto vocals[1] and her eclectic mix of musical genres including R&B, soul and jazz.[2] Winehouse's 2003 debut album, Frank, was critically successful in the UK and was nominated for the Mercury Prize. Her 2006 follow-up album, Back to Black, led to six Grammy Award nominations and five wins, tying the then record for the most wins by a female artist in a single night, and made Winehouse the first British female to win five Grammys,[3][4] including three of the "Big Four": Best New Artist, Record of the Year and Song of the Year.

On 14 February 2007, she won a BRIT Award for Best British Female Artist; she had also been nominated for Best British Album. She won the Ivor Novello Award three times, one in 2004 for Best Contemporary Song (musically and lyrically) for "Stronger Than Me", one in 2007 for Best Contemporary Song for "Rehab", and one in 2008 for Best Song Musically and Lyrically for "Love Is a Losing Game", among other distinctions. The album is the biggest seller of the 2000s in the United Kingdom.[5] Winehouse is credited as an influence in the rise in popularity of female musicians and soul music, and also for revitalising British music.

Winehouse was found dead on 23 July 2011, at her home in London.[6][7] Police have said that the cause of her death is "as yet unexplained"[8][9][10] and that the death was "non-suspicious".[11] Winehouse's family and friends attended her funeral on 26 July 2011. In August 2011 her album Back to Black became the UK's best selling album of the 21st century.[12]

Winehouse's final recording, a duet entitled "Body and Soul" with Tony Bennett, was released on 14 September 2011 to commemorate what would have been her 28th birthday. Proceeds from the song will go to the Amy Winehouse Foundation "to support charitable activities in both the UK and abroad that provide help, support or care for young people, especially those who are in need by reason of ill health, disability, financial disadvantage or addiction".[13]



healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Oct 1, 2011 - 04:11am PT
Ron, thanks for the croc rundown - would never have guessed.
Trusty Rusty

Social climber
Tahoe area
Oct 1, 2011 - 09:08am PT

Thanks for the pics and info of your masterful profession Ron, fascinating stuff. Nice to still see real hand work these days.

Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Oct 1, 2011 - 09:54am PT
Ah, little baby parakeet. Sweet little birds.
Norwegian

Trad climber
Placerville, California
Oct 1, 2011 - 09:58am PT
death is an abstract medium thru which to express.
fascinating to see these still shadows of active beasts.

edit,
nice art work Ron.
the care expressed in your work well exceeds common.
locker

Social climber
CO
Oct 1, 2011 - 11:12am PT


The only thing missing from this thread is one of those sweet and positive comments from AC...


;-)

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 12:43pm PT
Thanks again all...Healyje, your welcome,,and Yes Locker, i'm sure that would have added a page of "nuttin but honey"...;-D


And Dr Spock,, geckos, sure,,Winehouse,, ill pass on.... I dont have enough PAINT for her..

Norwegian, as always your words are art....
Gene

climber
Oct 1, 2011 - 01:26pm PT
Ron,

Thanks so much for sharing all this.

g
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 01:37pm PT
Hey Gene, thanks for the invite! Glad you are enjoying!


Credit: Ron Anderson

mess with a rhino, and you get the "horn"...


a reproduction shoulder mount. NONE of it is real....
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 01:58pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

Great horned owl with quail kill,,,"subtle savagry" done for the NDOT several years ago..Road killed.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 02:07pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson


Himalayan Snowcock,,, one of the rarest and most prized birds, with only ONE mtn range in this hemisphere that contains them, the Ruby mtns/east humboldt range of NE nevada, found commonly at altitudes of 9000 to 11000 plus feet.. These birds have eyes/ears that rival any living thing, coupled with shoulders that can stand G forces in a stoop or dive of 2000 feet that would literally RIP the shoulders out of a Golden Eagle. They usually are found VERY near Rock faces as that is their primary escape method..
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Oct 1, 2011 - 02:11pm PT
So I was looking for some Gary Larsen "Far Side" cartoon of taxidermy to contribute here but I stumbled upon this article on 10 Bizarre Phobias

http://listverse.com/2007/08/20/top-10-bizarre-phobias/

In the comments they wrote


Maria / 19 Sep, 2007 at 09:52 am
I was wodering if anybody else suffers from fear of taxidermy. I can deal with small birds, maybe a squirrel, but any bigger than that I just have to cover my eyes and be led out of the room. Bears are the worst, especially if standing on to legs. The natural history museum would be my worst nightmare.

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Sonya Gonzalez / 24 Aug, 2010 at 03:43 pm
yes yes yes..im not alone..it freaks me out so bad..any store or restaurant or museum..Philadelphia has a giant ox or something with long wooly hair.I couldnt look at it.I think i know where mine came from..as a child i was bitten by a dog..i had to see a plastic surgeon who was a big game hunter..his entire office was covered with dead animals from Africa..

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Xandra / 25 Aug, 2010 at 12:23 pm
I've been known to start shaking/crying and be unable to move when there's taxidermy nearby… totally freaks me out.

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Alma / 18 Apr, 2011 at 07:56 pm
i also have this. Sometimes it’s so bad that I’ll have dreams where taxidermy falls on me, or i am impaled on antlers, or i am forced to put my head in the mouth of a stuffed bear. Sometimes if i see a deer in the wild i freak out because, duh, it looks like taxidermy.

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Toby / 11 Jun, 2011 at 05:59 pm
I too have this fear (well, I’d really call it a phobia at this point.) I once had to accompany children to a nature museum for work, not realizing that the museum would just be rooms FULL of taxidermy animals. Huge panic attack.

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Emily / 29 Jun, 2011 at 11:58 pm
You’re not alone.
I’m twelve years old; since I was about . . . six, I’d say? I’ve been terrified by taxidermy. I went on a trip to Germany a couple winters ago, and the bed & breakfast we were staying in was packed with taxidermy. thank god our room didn’t have anything, but it was humiliating — i literally had to be led in and out of the building by the hand, my head down, so i didn’t freak out. The one thing I could handle was the little bird by the stairwell, but even that sent a shiver down my spine.
For me, the bigger the animal is, the worse it gets. That’s the general rule for me. But all taxidermy just throws me into a state of panic.

The simple idea of animals being killed, having their skins peeled off and smacked up onto the wall is just horrifying for me. The ironic thing is that when I was about three or four, I would apparently visit my friend’s house and go in the basement to play with the taxidermy animals her father kept down there.
I think it was when I was old enough to realize that those things were DEAD animals, not stuffed playthings, that the phobia really started for me.

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Heikold / 20 Jul, 2011 at 03:38 am
I suffer from this and I agree with the size thing – it definitely makes it worse.

Do the others here have issues with things the higher up they are too? I can usually deal with stuff on the floor, but if it’s above my head I tend to freak out.

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jfrater / 19 Sep, 2007 at 09:53 am
Maria: wow – that is fascinating! I love stuffed animals – I just can’t imagine being afraid of them. What do you think brought that on?

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Maria / 19 Sep, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Well, there are no childhood traumas that I can think of, but I have wondered myself why this is, many times, since my reaction is so severe, not just thinking stuffed animals are gross. I simply cannot enter a room if there is one of those things there.

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rebecca king / 20 Jul, 2010 at 04:55 pm
I also have this fear and everyone just tells me its rediculous. Its the first thing I look for in a steakhouse or a cabin. I KNOW that they can't hurt me, but its still just creepy. I am of Indian decsent and my father used to say it was because we could feel their souls. Little strange I know, but its the only explanation I can think of. I just think it is a sick practice that our society needs to let go. I feel it is just as unacceptable as stuffing a human body. Its sick and wrong.

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Amy / 17 Sep, 2010 at 05:14 pm
I am also terrified of any and all taxidermed animals. I have never met anyone else with this fear so I'm glad I'm not the only one. I tried getting over it by waitressing at a restaurant where we had many dead animals on the wall- I only lasted a few months and it was a nightmare for me everytime I walked into work. We had a fieldtrip in 5th grade to a natural history museum, I tried walking in and had to run back out and sit outside the entire time with a teacher b/c I was having a panic attack from going in. Has anyone found a way to get over this fear?! I am okay with fish and the occassional bird but anything else freaks me out. It's also the first thing I look for when I walk into any restaurant or unknown place which could possibly have them…AHHH!

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Wowzer / 24 Sep, 2007 at 08:33 pm
Maria: I sympathise. Though I don’t have a fear of stuffed animals (such as teddy bears, plushes, whatever), I am uncomfortable around taxidermied animals. I haven’t a clue why, but I get away from them as fast as I can (I refuse to enter a furniture store at the local mall because it’s covered in taxidermied elk heads.) Just thought that was noteworthy.

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Maria / 24 Sep, 2007 at 10:56 pm
No exactly! I don´t have a problem with toy stuffed animals, of course, but taxidermy just like you Wowzer. If I suspect that there are any in a store or a house I usually have someone check it out for me. Like in the local Viking restaurant, were I totally panicked and the people there probably thought I was completely crazy…! I am glad I am not the only one!!!

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annie / 1 Aug, 2010 at 06:02 am
I have the same problem! Museums are the worst. I have nothing from my past that could have triggered it. Are you also afraid of wax dummies and things behind glass with spotlights on them like in museums?

I remember being at somebody's cabin as a kid and looking out their window and was suddenly shocked to see this huge deer in the window right in front of my face. Then I realized it was just the reflection of the deer head on the wall behind me.

Peace

Karl
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 02:21pm PT
Well, i'm here to reduce the fear of the "unknown" Karl! ;-)

Its like Hollywood's version of taxidermists,,they portray them as some skits out wierdos in some dank dark room. Just about every movie Ive ever seen with taxidermy in it, the CRAP they have looks like amateur city- the likes ones finds on EBAY...Ive never seen one DECENT mount in a movie, so that perception becomes ingrained in the deep consciousness..
Lovegasoline

Trad climber
Sh#t Hole, Brooklyn, NY
Oct 1, 2011 - 02:37pm PT
Nice work Ron.

I've always enjoyed seeing trophy heads on walls...they are intriguing, often unexpected, objects.

When I was younger for many years I used to work bartending at special events and one client was American Museum of Natural History in NYC. I've spent hours standing amongst the various life sized dioramas contemplating them.

If you have shots of workbench, tools, special supplies it would be cool to see some pics (messiness is cool) : I always dig seeing a work area with the maker's character.

Would also be interested to see some of the completed built up dioramas, in-situ, with presentation lighting.

Are there any safety hazards a taxidermist need to be cognizant of, either from the industrial supplies or the organic matter?

I'm an artist and during my college studies did some human anatomy study/dissection at Columbia/New York Presbyterian. To this day the structure of the skinned human hand, with all the small tendons and bones is one of the most beautiful structures I've seen.

Have you done any turtles?


PS: Earliest taxidermy memory ... in the Smithsonian Institute as a young boy with my family. It was late in the day and the museum was closing. My dad left us to get the car in the rain parked far away from the museum due to the abysmal parking situation in DC. The then closed but my mom, sister, and I were probably the last of the public inside and lost ... the place was so big we couldn't find the exit. It was dead quite, no employees in sight, and lights and doors in some areas were closed. We came upon a giant Wooly Mammoth in the middle of a room and I got a taste of what it must have felt for our ancestors to have been face to face with such a powerful beast. Very freaky, powerful emotions.

PSS: maybe earlier memory. A friend of my dad brought me a gift from a trip to South America: a baby stuffed crocodile (or alligator). About a foot and a half long with heavy stitches the length of its belly and very sharp teeth. I loved that thing!
locker

Social climber
CO
Oct 1, 2011 - 02:39pm PT


Ron...

Did you DO that Rhino, also???...(Of course I mean that in a GUD way)...

;-)



EDITED:

Is there no animal you won't "MOUNT...

LOL!!!...

Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Oct 1, 2011 - 02:40pm PT
Its like Hollywood's version of taxidermists,,they portray them as some skits out wierdos in some dank dark room. Just about every movie Ive ever seen with taxidermy in it, the CRAP they have looks like amateur city- the likes ones finds on EBAY...Ive never seen one DECENT mount in a movie, so that perception becomes ingrained in the deep consciousness..

I just want to know how many Armadillos you stuffed!

;-)

Karl
locker

Social climber
CO
Oct 1, 2011 - 02:43pm PT


Ron probably goes crazy for Stuffed Crab...

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 02:55pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson


Credit: Ron Anderson



Credit: Ron Anderson
Credit: Ron Anderson

Mess,,, i gots LOTS of mess! Taxidermy doesn't cater to the "use a tool and gently replace it on the bench" style of thought- its fast dynamic, stuff kicking off and hardening etc, so messes are part of the game. I use mache mixes, vermiculite, two part epoxy sculpting compounds , ceramic clays, hide pastes, bondo, lacquers and acrylic paints, 2 part foam which has an invisible and class a carcinogenic fume to it (respirators mandatory) and a ton of other items that would make osha run for the hills. Gone are the days of using arsenic and other poisons though..Although i do use acids in tanning.



edit: ansers to questions,, Yes Locker LOVE stuffed crab! And No there is no animal i wont due and have done a significant amount of the speicies roaming the earth! and Yes locker the rhino is my work..

And Karl,, ive only done a few "dillos",,kind of a regional thing lol!


edit : Yes ive done turtles reproductions...

Lovegasoline

Trad climber
Sh#t Hole, Brooklyn, NY
Oct 1, 2011 - 03:06pm PT
Thanks for the pics Ron.

And Karl,, ive only done a few "dillos",,kind of a regional thing lol!

That brings to mind dildos. And since Locker is onboard, I might as well ask:

What about 'dildo' taxidermy? Or rather customers requesting stuffed animal genitalia for display? Proud stud farm owners? You mentioned upthread that the pet taxidermy market originated in NYC. There's certain to be a client base for taxidermy kink in NYC.



Due to the bullfighting thing, I saw plenty of stuffed bull's heads in Spain.

What country/city is the epicenter for taxidermy these days?








Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 03:13pm PT
there are all sorts of spin offs from taxidermy. Plushidermy is a semi mounted animal (head) with a soft dry tanned body like a kids stuffed toy! Then there is "rouge" taxidermy where artists piece together bizarre looking creatures from various parts of other animals. Quite interesting, but not my bag.


Here's a funny "genitalia" story, while working at animal artistry long ago, we had a newer taxidermist who was mounting a hyena...Now for those that don't know, Hyenas are a bit weird and "large", but they have a HUGE amount of "foreskin". This guy had no clue, and when he wheeled into the finish room,,,,,here was this hyena with a nearly two foot long appendage! LMAO!!!!! We had him "revise" it a bit....


as for the "center of the industry,, i dont believe there is just one, but if it were the case it would no doubt be here in the US, but Europe Asia Africa and others have large industries as well... But economically,, one would think here... And the pricing center of the country for many years has been RENO due to Mike Boyces efforts to bring taxidermy into a more professional and business like lime light.
The user formerly known as stzzo

Social climber
Oct 1, 2011 - 03:20pm PT
Plushidermy is a semi mounted animal (head) with a soft dry tanned body like a kids stuffed toy!

Does this have anything to do with Plushies? On second thought, I don't want to know...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 03:24pm PT
here is a NON GLAMOROUS detail...Once upon a time, I had to develope a realistic looking sphincter area technique.....How many of you would care to take on that task LOL! FYI, the seventeen line model worked out the best....Its ALL in the DETAIL! the nine line version just looked "rookie"...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 03:34pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson
before "finishing" procedures. Typical croc head with LARGE damage to the brain area- standard in taking these as they sink if wounded too long.

Credit: Ron Anderson

the same head after sculpting and air brushing/ hand painting finish procedures..
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 03:40pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

more MESS! Sam Cahoy, sudent, from Colorado working an an altered Bobcat during a one on one seminar..
locker

Social climber
CO
Oct 1, 2011 - 03:46pm PT


One might wonder what motivates someone to get into your profession...



























































...

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 03:50pm PT
BUWWAAAHAHA ,could have been from my family album !;-D


after all, theose dang ROOSTERS can be MEAN!!!! Why do ya think a FAMOUS Nam era Sniper was called just that!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 03:58pm PT
Factoid: The use of Dawn dishwashing soap for wildlife caught in oil slicks came from taxidermy, as weve been using it for decades as part of a degreasing process in the preparing of bird fish and mammal skins. It IS THE BEST degreaser other than SOLVENTS.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Oct 1, 2011 - 04:14pm PT
we had a newer taxidermist who was mounting a hyena
.. Must...Resist...
Now for those that don't know, Hyenas are a bit weird and "large", but they have a HUGE amount of "foreskin". This guy had no clue, and when he wheeled into the finish room,,,,,here was this hyena with a nearly two foot long appendage! LMAO!!!


It's a laughing Hyenas getting the last laugh.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 04:19pm PT
Hehehe, ive been serving up quite a few golden one liners here no doubt!!!
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Oct 1, 2011 - 04:23pm PT
I don't recall any Hollywood portrayals of taxidermists. My 'creeped-out-ness' came from family members chasing us are with heads and stuff. Not nice, people!!

This is all really fascinating.

[dumb question]

So, you skin each critter then put the skin on the body you make? Or is a lot of it paint and such? I also thought one took the body, gutted it, then filled it with I don't know what.

[/dumb question]
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 04:32pm PT
No dumb quesions Crimpie!


Yes, they are skinned, and the claws, nose, septum , eye lids and ears , legs and or wings are "reversed" so that the cartilidge can be removed. Hard to explain it..Then the skins are tanned and then measured so that a from can be altered to fit and for the pose. The only thing real on them is the skin pads of nose and feet. claws hair or feathers. Everything under neath is man made materials. A body is removed without puncturing or "guts" with any skill...There is a lot of technique to that as well.. Now there is freeze dryng, which is essentially what you describe,, but really only works well in the smaller critters ,, mice and the like. Long term freeze drying isnt a good option. I dont freeze dry anything, it is all traditionally mounted, even the mice...wanna talk EYE STRAIN!!


edit: i either carve a body from the carcass reference, or order a commercial form from a taxidermy supply company and alter it to the pose and size of the skin...

areas that get finished with epoxy sculpting compounds are the nose lips mouth- eye rings -caruncle areas (front corner muscle of eye) toe nails, foot /toe pads or bird bills feet and eye rings, then all areas mentioned get air brushed thier natural colors...It takes five colors to paint a mtn lion eye ring,,flesh, mars red, cocoa brown , dark brown and black..
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Oct 1, 2011 - 04:40pm PT
Very cool!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 04:49pm PT
Cool Crimpie, glad yur enjoying it!

as for Lockers question earlier, at the age of 7/8, my idea of a great morning was to be out in the bushes sneaking up on birds and drawing them. Or catching glimpse of a jack rabbit and doing the same. I was simply attracted to the wild at an early age and by the time i was 10, i wanted a mounted quail as those birds amazed me soo much i needed one close, but the price back then was a hundred bucks, and for the times, that was a WAD of money. I made the commitment then to learn it myself and on my 11th birthday mounted my very first speciman,,,,a quail! although it WAS HIDEOUS! LOL!!!!!!!!!
Lovegasoline

Trad climber
Sh#t Hole, Brooklyn, NY
Oct 1, 2011 - 04:51pm PT
Here in NYC there's a store in SOHO called The Evolution Store (theevolutionstore.com). They cater to rich tourists as it's located in the center of NYC's hip fashion shopping district. It's loaded with all kinds of cool stuff including some bigger mammals.

Ron, how do you keep insects, mice, and rodents from eating your work?


Do you do stuff with skeletons or is that generally treated as another field?


You mentioned movies, what do you think of The Silence of the Lambs?
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Oct 1, 2011 - 04:52pm PT
Excellent timing of a bizarre story in the paper (i.e., online). This is just gross! Not that they are rats (love them, had them as pets, have two living in the back I really enjoy) - it's that they look dead. Ew.



Text from the link:

"Taxidermy animal accessories

Looking for an eco-macabre way to accessorize? A rat coin purse or pigeon feather necklace might be just what you need. Reid Peppard, a vegetarian and designer from London, doesn't want the animal victims of busy streets and pest control to go to waste, so she uses her taxidermy skills to transform their carcasses into wearable pieces. Ranging in price from hundreds to thousands of dollars, Peppard’s accessories are sure to make a statement — Lady Gaga even wore one of her creations in her “Bad Romance” video. But who are Peppard's biggest customers? Surprisingly, American men."

Ew!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 04:54pm PT
through PROPER preparation of the skins. Believe it or not,, 20 mule team borax soap is a well known bug proofing for birds and small mammals..Bird legs are injected with "balmex" first developed in ww1 to preserve bodies in the field...Lots of stuff we use to insure longevity, but cut rate taxidermists WILL leave a lot of these steps out as they are expensive over head wise.


edit Crimpie,,, AGREED eeewwwww....FREEZE DRIED!....nuff said


edit: Love,, yes i ocasionally do skeletal stuff, but mostly just bleached skulls etc.

and Thought Silence of the lambs was a cool movie,,, but typical..lol!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 05:17pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

name that bird..
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 05:26pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

the final sheep/lion piece minus the rotating base all supported from one hooof the sheep..
locker

Social climber
CO
Oct 1, 2011 - 05:33pm PT


My vote for the BEST current thread...

;-)

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 05:42pm PT
Tanku Doood..High praise indeed! Pretty "stiff" competition around here though! (pun intended).;-)


Credit: Ron Anderson


Paradise Whyda (african) A GORGEOUS lil bird- body the size of your last knuckle on the thumb...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 05:45pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

whats inside a bird? well here is the head part..An excerpt from "UPland game bird taxidermy" by Frank Newmyer in which i do two chapters. All my own self invented techniques.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
SoCal
Oct 1, 2011 - 05:58pm PT
Nice work Ron! You are an artistic asset to mother nature by allowing more people the up close view of her work.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Oct 1, 2011 - 06:06pm PT
That's a Northern Pintail, no?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 06:08pm PT
NA Pintail Yes Crimpie,, a mature drake...;-)

Spider, ELEQUENTLY SAID!,,,I don't think ive ever heard that in my industry! You guys are something else!


edit: PLEASE NOTE< when i use spell check, it turns Crimpie into CREAMPIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS NOT ME LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Oct 1, 2011 - 06:18pm PT
I like Pintails. I like the symmetry of their long pintail and the white line on their neck. Very cool.

*disclaimer, I like all birds.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2011 - 06:23pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

Feathers, meet fur,, fur,, this is feathers..
neversummer

Trad climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
Oct 1, 2011 - 08:59pm PT
The sheep/lion scene is badass, hats off to ya'
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 1, 2011 - 10:03pm PT
this crazy freak named ralph kraus had a rat stuffed with blue bird winds,

he called it the ratley or some weird ass acid dreamed up sh#t,


think use to freak me out, man,

if we passed a dead animal in the middle of the road, he would be all over it, stripping the hide from the pavement to wear it like a grapefriut hat, wtf, over?


typical quote"i want the pelt, mannnnnnnn.."
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Oct 1, 2011 - 10:47pm PT
Ratleys' make splendid masturbation pelts...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 2, 2011 - 01:35pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

a wee "effulunt"



Credit: Ron Anderson

Natives HATE these bad boys..Hippos are one of the more dangerous animals on the planet.

both of these were done when i worked at animal artisrty in Reno.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 2, 2011 - 01:45pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson
African Grey Lourie, or "go-way" bird african eagle owl to the left..
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 3, 2011 - 05:25pm PT
just received this in the mail today..


Credit: Ron Anderson

Gene

climber
Oct 3, 2011 - 05:31pm PT
^^^^^^^^^^^ Proud, Ron! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
MH2

climber
Oct 5, 2011 - 10:31pm PT
That's the most I've ever learned from a Supertopo thread.


Greatly appreciate and admire your work, Mr. Anderson.
splitclimber

climber
Sonoma County
Oct 5, 2011 - 10:46pm PT
this is good OT
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Oct 5, 2011 - 10:51pm PT
You deserve it, Ron!!!!

Nice work.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 5, 2011 - 11:36pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson
African Goshawk and grass snake

Thanks Folks!!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 6, 2011 - 05:19pm PT
a little "euro-taxidermist humor"...

Credit: Ron Anderson
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Oct 17, 2011 - 09:46pm PT
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/10/17/nr-roadkill-meals.cnn

Thought of you Ron when I saw this.

cheers
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2011 - 10:21pm PT
DOH! That guy is hard core lol! Im a little less brave when it comes to road kill cuisine..!;-D Although, the two deer ive hit while driving, i did indeed utilize!
The user formerly known as stzzo

Social climber
Oct 18, 2011 - 12:45am PT
What's an Alabama 7-course meal?

Road kill and a 6 pack.
nick d

Trad climber
nm
Oct 18, 2011 - 02:16am PT
Just curious, have you ever done any work for the Bolack family in Farmington, NM?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 18, 2011 - 04:17am PT
Nick, that name doesnt ring a bell..But when i worked at Animal Artistry we did work for folks from coast to coast ..
Bob Harrington

climber
Bishop, California
Oct 18, 2011 - 09:40am PT
Did you do any of the stuff at Cabella's?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Oct 18, 2011 - 09:43am PT
What's an Alabama 7-course meal?

Road kill and a 6 pack.

Ironically illegal in Alabama, but legal in Tennessee (to take and eat road kill).

But just to even things up you can buy Jack Daniels in Alabama but not in its home county in Tennessee. I think those Lynchburg teetotalers are liquor making hypocrites and good for them I say!

DMT
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 18, 2011 - 12:58pm PT
Bob, yes ive worked on pieces for Cabelas stores, not sure exactly where they went, and did some finish work on some of the displays at the Reno store as well.
Gene

climber
Oct 18, 2011 - 01:03pm PT
Ron,

Have you ever been to Fosters Bighorn in Rio Vista, CA?
http://www.fostersbighorn.com/FBH_Web_Site/Home.html

g
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 18, 2011 - 01:16pm PT
Never been there, but it looks like an interesting place!! I saw a recent article on Martha Stewart about taxidermy as home decor- seems it is gaining a crowd of city types even!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 18, 2011 - 01:43pm PT

Credit: Ron Anderson


This is a competition piece done for the 2007 world show. The sage brush has a 3/8 threaded rod through to near the tip, and goes into the base- and is comprised of about five major pieces from different brush, all bonded together, textured and painted to match the real wood. The root system is root collected from several different brushes, tress etc, and all put into place one by one to "build" composition. Floral techniques on composition are also used including "heaven, man and earth" basics as well as pos/neg space, color co-ordinations and non centering flows etc.. This was a piece i had had in my head since i drew it for my mother when i was about 10 years old..it got a 2nd in world and was featured in industry magazines and web sites. Twas a labor of love for Mom, and i hope she was pleased..
Norwegian

Trad climber
Placerville, California
Oct 18, 2011 - 01:49pm PT
death is currency.
i traded two deaths for some sonshine.

the inheritant will surely enjoy thoroughly
the concluding passage that was assigned to me.
that death will weave in and out of
god's passion, and leave Her drunk.

im not sure now what im up against.
i've got to die twice,
once the death of a martyr
and once the death of a villian.

im bored of death's game,
for i always win,

though the villians death coming to me
should me, intrigue,
as the culmination of my questioneering.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 18, 2011 - 02:46pm PT
That reminds me Weeg,, A lady taxidermist friend of mine down in the bay area just had a customer call her about,,,,,,,mounting his FINGER! Yes,, he lost his ring finger in a work accident, and the hospital let him keep it, now he wants it "mounted"...

Ive done a few REPRODUCTION humans and or parts for scenes before, but never the real thing. And of course, Ive had wives ask how much to "stuff" their hubbies and Hubbies asking how much for wives..;-D

nutjob

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Oct 18, 2011 - 02:48pm PT
That's the most I've ever learned from a Supertopo thread.

Way outside my normal realm of experience, but the dedication and skill are evident. The lifelike quality of your work is a testament to your passion.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 18, 2011 - 02:59pm PT
Thanks Nutjob,, you know the buzz i get when completing a piece is much like the buzz one gets when completing a difficult pitch.! And they both only last a little while, and must be re-fed..;-)
nick d

Trad climber
nm
Oct 18, 2011 - 10:19pm PT
Ron, the family I asked about, the old man, Tom Bolack was one of the first really big oil millionaires in NM. He was briefly governor of our state He was a big trophy hunter in the late 50's and into the 60's. My father used to take me out to their ranch to see his trophy room which was, well not quite basketball court size.

All the taxidermy was realtively crude, but the dudes collection was awesome. I'm pretty sure he had one of the biggest polar bears ever taken. I never thought of him as a sportsman, to get that bear he flew around in a chopper until they found a really big one. I think he got a lot of his African trophys the same way. That aint hunting to me.

The old man was a drunk, a bad guy really. When he wanted to punish his son Tommy he frequently locked him in a closet for long periods. My old man was a long time acquaintance and my family was on friendly terms with Tom is why I'm privy to these kind of details.

Anyway, Tom finally checked out leaving the empire to Tommy and Tommy built himself a super deluxe pad quite a ways from the original house. I don't think it held a lot of great memories for him. I haven't gone to see it but he had a lot of the taxidermy redone in the lifelike action style that a lot of your work shows. I have the impression Tommy might have sunk a really big chunk of change into it. The next time I get a chance to go see his pad I'll be sure to get some good photos and post em up here.

Thanks a lot for showing us your work, it's really fun to see!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2012 - 11:50am PT
An old Freind of mine, Igor Caragodin (from Russia) is pictured working on a MOST SPECIAL project, a california Condor- a victim from AZ. A Once in a lifetime opportunity! And Igor is a talented Artist!


edit: NickD, that would be cool to see!
Credit: Ron Anderson

Credit: Ron Anderson

^^^Igor working the nine foot wing span on this awsome bird.. Its being mounted for a museum of course..


locker

Gym climber
DUH!!!...
Jul 28, 2012 - 11:55am PT


"Its being mounted for a museum of course.."...



Send that bird over here...

It's big enough for me, to "MOUNT"!!!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2012 - 12:08pm PT
could hang glide on the back of that dude!
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jul 28, 2012 - 12:31pm PT
That's NOT a California Condor. ( is it? )

I've seen California Condors. They ALL have serial numbers on them ( that's how you know you're getting genuine Condor, and not generic buzzard ).
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jul 28, 2012 - 12:39pm PT
Ron, you are really good!
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jul 28, 2012 - 12:40pm PT
Ha Chaz! I was wondering the same thing - if the bird would have his tags on. The only one I saw, had tags. The tags were diagnostic for a positive ID!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2012 - 12:43pm PT
Trust me,, its a "for realsie" Condor lol! Tags were prolly removed during necropsies and tissue exams.. And Thanks Norton!

Igor is also an internationally known "dermist" - and a very cool person. He does a lot of museum work in his off time from Vetrinary work.
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Jul 28, 2012 - 01:11pm PT
bates ... bates ... why does this name stick in my mind?
Some Random Guy

Trad climber
San Francisco
Jul 28, 2012 - 01:46pm PT
talent man, talent!

i've always wanted to know, why can't humans be mounted? isn't it illegal or something?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2012 - 10:55pm PT
Yes actually in most areas mounting of humans is frowned upon ! BUT the Chinese have taken the preservation to fascinating extent with their latest human body exhibits which caught MUCH FLAK while here in the US.!

Credit: Ron Anderson

thier version of "the thinker".. You can see the musculature, the nerves- everything is preserved.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jul 28, 2012 - 10:57pm PT
Some of us snuck into the body exhibit late at night while it was in another country. That added an awful layer of creepiness to it. I lasted 10 second and high-tailed it out of there! Bleck!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2012 - 11:06pm PT
hes thinkin,,,"dang man,, my brain is gonna get wet if it rains"...DOH!
Some Random Guy

Trad climber
San Francisco
Jul 29, 2012 - 12:27am PT
yeah i never made it to san jose to see that exhibit when it was here but i have taken med classes and got to "play" with preserved corpses. not as freaky or disturbing as one would think.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Jul 29, 2012 - 12:46am PT
Looks like some very nice work Ron.
go-B

climber
2 Timothy 1:9-10 Monergism
Jul 29, 2012 - 01:01am PT
Rare find...

photo not found
Missing photo ID#257066
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jul 29, 2012 - 01:53am PT
The human body show made it to Vancouver and I went with a lover of adventure. We both were super creeped out by the examples of plasticised corpses. Free will being what it is the donors of themselves were presented in various flattering and ridiculous poses.

I was under the impression the work was German, not Chinese.

So Ron, I have nothing but fascination for what you do. does the modern polymer injection technique to achieve the withered but detailed EX-people have any bearing on your classic technique for taxidermy ?

Credit: Igor

Credit: Dr. Frankenstein

Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
Jul 29, 2012 - 02:03am PT
Hey Ron, I walk by those at the airport all the time. Nice work.
I had no idea you were a part of that.
I will appreciate them even more next time by.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 29, 2012 - 03:11am PT
Ron, bet ya haven't done one of these Swedish creatures...

Credit: Reilly
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2012 - 10:09am PT
Jim, Not really- "standard" taxidermy deals only with the skins which are tanned to a leather. I do often use the carcasses as a 3-d reference for carving the mannikins though! The carcasses also tell us about muscles, tendons etc.

Credit: Ron Anderson

and Rielly NICE HAZEL-HARE LOL! Kinda like the Lion Pedastal to Go-B.

Shack, from what ive been told that sheep exhibit is going to be moved due to TSA needeing more touchin and squeezin room...

Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Jul 29, 2012 - 01:35pm PT
Ron,

I guess we wouldn't want the TSA doing what they do with sheep around.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2012 - 01:53pm PT
im relativly sure TSA has fondled those sheep,,,yessiree..;-)
splitclimber

climber
Sonoma County
Sep 20, 2012 - 01:17pm PT
thought of you Ron. You got some competition. ;)

http://now.msn.com/taxidermy-gone-bad-photo-gallery-of-badly-stuffed-animals

neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Sep 20, 2012 - 04:07pm PT
hey there say, ron... thanks for sharing.... had not seen this, either
first time up...

say, i was babysitting one night for grandkids and a show came on:
it was about a man that does this...
they showed the shop, what he did, and his wife and his home life...

he seemed like a very nice guy...
was very nice to folks,under odd conditions, and patient...

thanks again...
:)

*yep, it showed all the sculpting involved, painting etc..
my auntie that died (falling through ice in her pond, was 79)
well, she had been art director, etc, at the cleveland museum of
natural history and had done work in all things similar to this too,
... not sure how much was real critter, or not (birds, etc)...
but she did many prehistoric copies, too...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2012 - 01:36pm PT
Cool Neebs. Most taxidermists do indeed have great amounts of patience.


Credit: Ron Anderson

The "wart hog".. Named for its protrusions of fatty like material extending from the face on either side if its cheeks. Typically beat up and abused by lions and other cats. The LARGE tusks are quite sharp on the lowers and the uppers are HUGE, set into the jaw some three to four inches and are strong enough to lift animals off the ground.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2012 - 02:39pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson


Isnt this a beauty? You see, anyone can become a licensed taxidermists. all you need to do is pay the fees for licenses. The economic times have driven many into a part time occupation as "taxidermists". Just like the rest of america, instant gratification is used in lieu of experience. Watch a video and bam your a "dermist". Get your cards made and pass em out!
So here we have a prime example of very little experience with a turkey that is supposed to be "strutting" . This done by a COMMERCIAL taxidermist in the area. The customer was charged a commercial fee and wrote a testament to the artist for creating such a wonderful trophy and that the talent and love for the work was obviously displayed! ---??
What is sad is that customers eventually become dissatisfied with an ugly mount like that and they loose interest in any more pieces in the future.






Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2012 - 03:03pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson


flushing chukar pair- done for an ST member here..;-)
little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
Nov 9, 2012 - 06:39pm PT
Great thread! Love it when old gems like this pop up. Ron, a world class artist and climber. Cool.

Just read the whole thread. Ron, no one commented on your photo of the ring-necked pheasant with the puma lounging on the couch in the background. That cracked me up. Would be fun to visit your shop next time I'm in Gardnerville. Would that be possible?

Growing up in DC I used to spend hours and hours in the NMNH looking at the exhibits. The tiger was my favorite (think it has been moved out of the great hall).

Run Forest, Run!
Run Forest, Run!
Credit: little Z
hobo_dan

Social climber
Minnesota
Nov 9, 2012 - 07:08pm PT
Those mounts are really well done Ron
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2012 - 07:13pm PT
thanks fer the compliments! And yes anyone can stop by for a visit- call first to make sure im here! for maps ,,numbers etc,, www.nevadawildlifestudio.com
Gene

climber
Nov 9, 2012 - 08:38pm PT
Wonderful stuff, Ron {{{Pun intended}}}.

TFPU. I hope to get an opportunity to visit your shop/studio/museum.

Best,
g
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2013 - 02:41pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson


Im not often EXCITED about a speciman,, but this is a SPRING sage grouse via a Native American permit that i just received for mounting. Ive only done three of these spring birds in the past 44 years.. This is the only time of year that a true strutting mount can be accomplished due to changes in the enzymes and other biological changes that allow the huge expansion of their breast skin for the booming of their ritual struts. The skin soon recoils to normal after mating.. Most sage grouse are hunted during the normal seasons and as such cant be mounted correctly in a strut pose.
These birds are ancient, and have NOT changed a bit from fossilized remains. Ill post a pic when completed..

Note: each of the white feathers of his collar have been meticulously trimmed and groomed by him, as well as the long plumes, which were once full feathers that were trimmed to be long shafted ornamental plumes one at a time by that bird.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2013 - 01:58pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson


Daves Lourie close to completion

Mr Dave York was up for a week long seminar with me, he won in an auction for another fellow taxidermist whos going through some major grief. He mounted his first predators as well as a day of my bird techniques and sizing bear manikins to the skin. A BUSY week! He was a good study too!
Credit: Ron Anderson

Mr Dave York from SoCal,, working on his first predator, a young african lion male!



a good looking lion face, after re-sculpting the zigamatics, maciters ...
a good looking lion face, after re-sculpting the zigamatics, maciters and eye rings/caruncles and nose..
Credit: Ron Anderson


Credit: Ron Anderson

Dave applying the clay for the facial features.


Dave working on his first life size bobkitty!
Dave working on his first life size bobkitty!
Credit: Ron Anderson

Credit: Ron Anderson



Credit: Ron Anderson



Credit: Ron Anderson

An intense seminar week was had--techniques of clay sculpting, metal ears, invisa thread, Eye sets, nose shapes, and mannikin alterations were the menu.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Feb 17, 2013 - 02:33pm PT
hey there say, ron...

thanks for sharing, again...

i love the artwork...

so true what you shared, too, about 'some may get into the business
easy, but--it does NOT mean quality or skill...


not all the pics have loaded, but frm what i saw, with the lion,
i can tell they are good stuff, done ver well...


neat note as to this quote of yours:
wow, i never suspected that--bird are so fun in what they do!
Note: each of the white feathers of his collar have been meticulously trimmed and groomed by him, as well as the long plumes, which were once full feathers that were trimmed to be long shafted ornamental plumes one at a time by that bird.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Feb 17, 2013 - 03:10pm PT
Ron, I must say that I am very impressed with your skills. You obviously are a meticulous artisan.

I'm not been particularly interested in specimens I've seen in the past, but I realize that I've mainly seen poorly done work.

Through this thread, I've gained an appreciation for the various steps involved, all of which are artistic in nature.

You haven't talked about it a lot, but you must give considerable thought to the "pose" that will be involved, before you even start working. I'll bet you dream about it!

you are clearly a master of your skill.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2013 - 03:39pm PT
Thanks Neebs, and Ken!


Thoughts of posing? Yes, its frequently on my mind when getting another project started. Most of the time, this is discussed with the clients as they usually have some idea or preference. Then , through a bit of transmogrification, we arrive at "the look" and pose. I have many things in my head that ive seen in flat art magazines, or nature photos , or simply ideas. These influence what i will suggest to the customer from time to time.

When mounting, the expression of the animal bird or even fish must match the action or nuance of the pose. For instance, the african lion being posed in a calm regal fashion, had to have the eye set a bit "lazy" or heavy lids to the top of the eyes to achieve a "quiet confidence" sort of mood.. Even ear pose in animals reflects their mood.

On the bobkitty, her ears are forward and somewhat alert- as she will be looking at a mouse held down by the tail from her front right paw, and the eyes are focused on that exact spot. So Yes, all these things are factored in for each type of pose.

This all involves a never ending study of reference, and using such as you mount. Its nearly impossible to memorize every look of every critter- so you always refresh your mind by viewing some reference. ALL manikins that are made commercially have flaws, miss shape from hot removals out of forms., and symmetry problems as well as lacking in many facial features.
It is through reference that we know how to adjust these manikins for each specimen. One size never fits all, as animals ,, each and every, are unique to themselves,, just like US.. In addition, makers of these manikins tend to over build all the muscle structures which looks cool on the manikin, yet arent even close to what was skinned, so carcass references and anatomical studies have to be another ingredient. The work you see that "just doesnt look good, or right", is often mounted on these manikins as is, with out the extra effort to properly size, and just and add with clays and other techniques because they fear clay work and make it much harder than it really is.

So Yes Ken, theres much thought about it,, but after forty some years doing it, i thankfully no longer dream about such things. Instead i just loose sleep thinking on them lol!


Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
Then,, we think on the HABITAT..This is the number one area of weakness for many taxidermists. Things like odd tight wads of artificial grass poking magically out of solid rock etc are common place.

There are many things that are considered in GOOD habitats. Some can be art, and interpretive, while others attempt to artistically mimic nature in exactness. Floral composition rules were brought to the industry be a friend and fellow taxidermist, Stephan Savides. A composition genius. Heaven , man , and earth philosophies, off centered subjects,,positive an negative space, color co-ordination, odd numbers are just some of the aspects of well done habitats. I once did a small bufflehead drake piece- he was standing on snow covered ice at the edge of water, and i mixed the resin hot to kick off more quickly, the spent an hour or two total, with an airbrush brushing in realistic wave and wind pattern in the water, including the round reaction ripples from a small round rock poking through the surface. So you have to be a nature observer of the flora and dirt as well. When you have a well done specimen on equally done habitat, it speaks for itself.
locker

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Feb 17, 2013 - 03:56pm PT


"When mounting, the expression of the animal bird or even fish must match the action"...



I'm SURE it does...

LOL!!!...

;-)
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2013 - 04:00pm PT
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Garfield in all his fatness and glory..
Garfield in all his fatness and glory..
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Then you get a "pet" project...These ARE the most pressured situation a taxidermist can ask for. The people being intimately familiar with their departed pets. each one ive ever done was easily the most worrisome. They all come with many pictures for reference and they always want a very specific pose, EXACTLY DUPLICATED, nary a whisker out of place.

NO PRESSURE THERE EH! Most taxidermists wont even accept them, but they will send them to me. (sigh).. Yes this is a we weird - even for a long time dermist. Not because they want to have their pet mounted, but the fact it was a pet. I stress over these and so far, the reactions have been very positive.

Ol "Garfield" in the pic was one of these such projects. The manikin was carved directly from his body, then a HUGE layer of mache and clays were added to compensate for three inches of fat that was removes from the skin- 3 inches!!! every where.
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2013 - 04:02pm PT
Hey,, if you guys see a taxidermy mounts for sale banner after clicking on this,, take a LOOK at those ROFLMAO!!!


And they actually want money for them !!
locker

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FukUville
Feb 17, 2013 - 04:03pm PT


You have an ODD job...

...
Marlow

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OSLO
Feb 17, 2013 - 04:05pm PT
An odd job done with great skill. Beautiful artwork!
locker

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FukUville
Feb 17, 2013 - 04:08pm PT


Marlow...

I could not agree more...

Ron for sure knows how to stuff 'em GUD!!!...

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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2013 - 04:18pm PT
yeah,, im odd. I like to stuff stuff. If i ever figure out the breath thing,, ill have arrived!
Cosmiccragsman

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Feb 17, 2013 - 04:22pm PT
So Ron, can humans be stuffed?
locker

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Feb 17, 2013 - 04:23pm PT


"yeah,, im odd"...

Runs in the family...

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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2013 - 04:28pm PT
Cosmic,,,Some what YES. As upthread the cadaver exhibits and such.. The main problem is LEGALITIES there ! Ive had many a hunter ask about their spouses both male and female lol!

The nature of human skin is best reproduced in plastic. Ive done a few human parts, like a hunters arm in a 19' crocs mouth- this actually happened in Africa- they got his arm back, and was re-attached. But he wanted it mounted with his arm as he bit it off. So i cast a similar size taxidermists arm first in alginate, then poured a two part plastic in it.. The finish and painting of humans is extremely difficult. There are many colors in just a hand,, like greens, blues, fleshes of varying depth, near white, off yellows etc etc.. COMPLEX we are!


edit: BAHAHA GUD one locker..!
Michelle Gill

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Feb 17, 2013 - 05:29pm PT
Wow Ron!! You do amazing work. Truly an artist!
rottingjohnny

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Feb 17, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
Ron...Have you seen Locker's GF Annie...? I heard he's been practicing the art of stuffing on her...?
SCseagoat

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Feb 17, 2013 - 07:15pm PT
Absolutely fascinating! I have a brother in law who is a major big game hunter including hunting safaris all over Africa and the Far East. He has 100s of things mounted, and many "skulls" mounted. When at his home I always feel sorry for the animals that are stuck in the garage or other out of the way areas of his house....but he has so many they couldn't be put into the main living areas. He actually had a story for each one. Hard to believe he can recall each kill. One thing, well 4 actually, we never talk about is some elephant leg stools he has.

Thanks for the info...learned a lot!

Susan
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2013 - 08:37pm PT
Thanks folks!

And RJ is that Annie "O" by chance?


And Susan, yes there are some very large collections out there- museums in their own right!

There is a trophy rook built by a very rich person in MI, that we worked on we=hen i was at Animal artistry. It was thousand of square feet and contained different rooms if you will that the habitat changed from say Africa to the polar regions, to the mountains of N America. Complete with fiber optics stars of actual constellations and such , pressure pads in the floors that brought up different sounds or tribal music in Africa, automatic camp fires that would ignite etc etc,, amongst about two hundred specimens. There were baboons setting on the thatch roofed bar of the african section, crow circling a grizzly and his caribou kill and the like. His office was a secret panel door way into the inside of a large rock mountain with wild sheep displayed on it. A wildlife Disneyland..
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Feb 17, 2013 - 08:45pm PT
Ron, but what would you do with this specimen?

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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2013 - 08:50pm PT
tie his arms off for a belay anchor?
mouse from merced

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Feb 17, 2013 - 08:59pm PT
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2013 - 06:22pm PT
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A rare treat for any taxidermist,, a spring male Sage grouse- only time of year a true strut pose can be done due to to changes in their skin during mating.

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these spring birds can only be taken by museums, or learning institutions with collection permits, or in this case, from a Native American permit.
S.Leeper

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somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Mar 21, 2013 - 06:44pm PT
I think it is great you can mount someone's beloved pet to give them comfort..
Reeotch

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4 Corners Area
Mar 21, 2013 - 07:30pm PT
Yeah, I considered that with my old dog. She was a looker!

But, on second thoght, it seemed a bit creepy.

Kinda like what they're doing to Hugo Chvez . . .
splitter

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Mar 21, 2013 - 07:50pm PT
Ron, I wish I new you back in '78, b'cuz I came upon this Great Horned Owl (maybe it was a Great Horned ?/it was huge), laying in the middle of the road, on the way to Hawthorn from Mammoth late one night. I stopped, and it was still warm, so I tossed it into the back of my truck and continued on. I started calling around and couldn't find a taxidermist, so a couple days later I took it out and placed it someplace respectible. Sure was a beautiful bird, kinda sad memories regarding it, actually.

Keep up the "Great" work, bro!!

edit: "archaic laws on the books..." - i vaguely remember that was what i ran into with the taxidermist i contacted in Bishop, at the time. :(
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2013 - 08:14pm PT
Yeah,, pets are a little odd, but i do them occasionally.. And the owl would unfortunatly have to be wasted due to archaic laws on the books here regarding raptors.

This sage gruse took abut 12 hours of pinning and skin and plumage manipulation to get this strutting pose-- they have an unfair advantage of 150 nerves that do it for them, i have to cheat those nerves !
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 23, 2013 - 08:39pm PT
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Downey Woodpecker just done for the Tahoe Institute of Natural Science..
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2013 - 12:06am PT
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White headed Woodpecker for the Tahoe Institute. Cool little specimens to work on.!
Largo

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The Big Wide Open Face
Mar 24, 2013 - 12:44am PT
Very fine work, Ron.

How do you get the waddles like that on the gobblers?

JL
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2013 - 12:54am PT
Thanks JL! And the turkey wattles are freeze dried after injecting them to full value. Then air brushed and hand painted.


and hope the Leg is coming along!
Chim-Chim

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Mar 24, 2013 - 12:55am PT
Heh Ron, do you know a lady named Amber? She's from G-ville, but lives in Tahoe she's a critter stuffer too.;} Dan
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2013 - 01:06am PT
Yes i do,, shes a freind of mine.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2013 - 01:38am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson

Credit: Ron Anderson


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a few shots of Amber working at the shop. A DELIGHTFUL person she is!
mouse from merced

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Mar 24, 2013 - 03:32am PT
Wattle ya do when they come for you, bad boy?

Turkeys!
Turkeys!
After the munchies...
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2013 - 08:19pm PT
Mustelid,, ill RUN!


Another tahoe Institute of Natural Science specimen- Williamson Sapsucker.

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Reilly

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Mar 24, 2013 - 09:09pm PT
You Da Man! Ya know I hear there's gud money in Jackalopes.
dirt claud

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san diego,ca
Mar 25, 2013 - 10:38am PT
First time I have seen this thread Ron. Beautiful work man, hope to see your stuff on display some time.
Batrock

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Burbank
Mar 25, 2013 - 10:53am PT
You ever screw around and make a cross eyed mountain lion or something goofy?

BTW, just looking over the thread and WOW!!! you are amazingly talented.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2013 - 11:34am PT
Why yes,, i have on occasion mounted something odd- like a baboon riding a wart hog dressed in a little cowboys outfit,, or a two headed quail.;^) Also did a baboon standing that was holding a tiolet paper roll. Glad you all enjoy the thread- i worked on a tiny specimen until 12:30 this morn--a poorwill . Twas a tiny potato chip- and required my secret rehydration techniques to bring the skin back to something workable..Micro surgery and micro "boids" make for a fun evening!


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Willoughby

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Truckee, CA
Mar 25, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
Gorgeous work, Ron!! We at TINS will be very proud to use these for education and outreach!!

EDIT - And sorry about the dehydrated skin - we try, but sometimes specimens come to us that have just been chucked in the freezer with no protection. I always recommend a paper cone and double freezer bags - seems to do the trick for birds I'm going to make into study skins.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2013 - 01:58pm PT
Glad ya like em Will! Happy to help out the Institute and the good work You do!


Interesting about the white headed being a victim of the angora fire too!

I was thinking that pecker was do for a molt when looking at the white head- and tiny dark and grey stained feathers which didnt wash out with dawn dishwashing sop. I thought it to be natural,, then upon conversing with Will was told she was an angora fire victim lol! Smoked she was !
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2013 - 12:05pm PT
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Hey Will,,,,SUCCESS!!! The boid frozen in 1999,, has been recovered!

Working on the pose now.. A special birdie this was- as ive never done a jager and i didnt want to lose that one! Thanks again for the opportunity!
dirt claud

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Mar 28, 2013 - 11:35am PT
Saw this on FB this morning and thought it would go good here Ron.

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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2013 - 12:11pm PT
reckon the name of that piece is "yippee-kay-ya mutha-f#cka!
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2013 - 11:02pm PT
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Willoughby, heres the last of the order- still have some grooming to do! Hoot hoot..
stich

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Colorado Springs, Colorado
Mar 29, 2013 - 11:47pm PT
A man can be an artist with anything. Food, whatever. Creasey's art is death, and he's about to paint his masterpiece.
manzanita man

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somerset, ca.
Mar 29, 2013 - 11:54pm PT
awesome work ron. i would love to stop by your place. i have a friend that works at the nugget and lives in sparks that wants me to visit next football season. will try to fit it in. i will supply the hippie lettuce.
Roughster

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Vacaville, CA
Mar 29, 2013 - 11:56pm PT
My daughter is intensely interested in taxidermy. I wouldn't be surprised to find out it is her calling in life. She is very passionate about it.

She says your stuff is awesome!
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2013 - 12:01am PT
Always welcome to visit M Man! And Roughster, I do give lessons in case yur daughter gets into it! Women have good eyes for details!
T Hocking

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Redding, Ca
Mar 30, 2013 - 12:28am PT
Hey Ron Questions,
Do you do fish?
Are they easier or more difficult than birds/animals.
anything you hate doing, love doing?
I would assume larger things bring you more $.
does doing someones pet creep you out or is it all just work for ya?
Nice work by the way!
Tad
manzanita man

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Mar 30, 2013 - 12:37am PT
ron: i will bring you a very nice manzanita branch that you can do a quail on.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2013 - 12:51am PT
Cool MM.!.
And Tad, yes i do fish- birds, reptiles, mammals and pets. Pets are a bit different and id never do my own.. But money is money and customers are always right! Some of my favorite are specimens like ive been doing for the Tahoe Institute of Natual science- protected species arent that often done,, and i love da boids! But mammals fish are good too! My least favorite is snakes. Just because..
Reilly

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The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 30, 2013 - 01:30am PT
Is that a juv Ring-billed gull at the top?

The GHO is beuteous!
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2013 - 01:37am PT
No Reilly, its a juvie long tail jager!
Reilly

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Mar 30, 2013 - 01:43am PT
Ha,that never occurred to me given yer locale. I saw the thingie on the end of the bill and just thought it was the ring on the Ring-billed. Now that I look closer i can see it is that 'thingie'. Being an Alaskan I never paid no mind to juvie jaegers as there was always plenty of adults to ogle. :-). So did this one show up in yer hood?
Willoughby

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Truckee, CA
Mar 30, 2013 - 03:36am PT
That jaeger washed up on the beach at Sand Harbor, on the east shore of Lake Tahoe, back in August of 1999. Starved on migration, apparently. It's been frozen ever since, passed through a few different hands, and now, finally, we'll be able to display it thanks to Ron's skills and artistry (and rehydration secrets)!

BTW, Tahoe probably gets a couple jaegers every fall, but they're pretty rare and it takes certain weather conditions to expect to see them.
neebee

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calif/texas
Mar 30, 2013 - 08:05am PT
hey there say, willoughby... :O oh my, now i know a bit more about that
'owl?' ...


i was wondering about it, as, i saw it on ron's facebook share...
so, it came through your find?

thanks for all the shares, once again, ron...
splitter

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Mar 30, 2013 - 08:33am PT
My art of death
Actually, I look at it as the art of bringing something that was dead, back to life!

BTW, awesome thread, and "art"!!!
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2013 - 10:00am PT
thats what i TRY for Splitter- but ma nature is an extremely hard match 100%! Ill never get there but ill never stop trying!

And Neebs, yes, the owl was a road killed bird that was recovered by Will.


edit: Will starvation is an excellent guess- the bird was VERY thin breast all but gone even considering the freeze dry shrinkage..
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2013 - 06:20pm PT
Heres Woodsy da ow-el alll gromed up..

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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
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thought this Antelope was worth a share-- horns quite obvioulsy DEERFORMED!

genetics in this buck has kept his annual horns growing in that odd direction.. Doesnt happen a lot..
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 17, 2013 - 06:30pm PT
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Woodsy Just before delivery..All finished up

got a nice compliment from Kirk at the Tahoe Institute, i guess woodsy has SKEERT a couple of the office staff there,, mission accomplished! ;-)
dee ee

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Apr 17, 2013 - 11:38pm PT
Wow Ron, somehow I missed this thread till now, awesome taxidermy! You are an artist of a different color.
Reilly

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The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 18, 2013 - 12:00am PT
Ron, you did well by old Woodsy, very very well.

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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 18, 2013 - 12:06am PT
Thanks peeps! I wanted him to have a kind of glaring inquisitive look,, as if to say hhmmmmm should i make you MY next meal?

They are lovely birds to work on, the feathers all serrated for silence in flight. The tiny nearly invisible lashes of plumage on the face ring--the NAs for the most fear this bird as the harbinger of death. Ive always FELT the opposite that they are the bringers of a good hunt. When ive seen them early in the am hunting, ive always done good.

Glad ya liked ol Woodsy! He was a N shore roadkill..
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 25, 2013 - 01:16pm PT
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an interesting specimen.. MINI Jungle fowl.. bout the size of a chukar in body.
mouse from merced

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Apr 26, 2013 - 04:48am PT
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Ron, I guess you may have seen this on the Flames. I'm posting the whole picture, warts y todos. The Trophy Room Bar awaits your sooner-or-later patronage. It's opening maybe in another month.

Their mounts have aged well, as far as I can tell. They date back to the 40s, most of them. You've probably seen lots of these ancient ones in your life as pig o' the woods, etc.

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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 26, 2013 - 10:14am PT
Cool MOUSE! Gotta love vintage "stuff".. just hope some of it isnt my work lol! Im to YOUNG to be vintage lol!
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Topic Author's Reply - May 1, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
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A Texas Mouflon sheep, one of the many huntable exotics in Texas. Got some WILD WOOL on him!
S.Leeper

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somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
May 1, 2013 - 05:50pm PT
Nice work , as usual, Ron!

Probably been asked already, but do you have a favorite animal to work on?
T Hocking

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Redding, Ca
May 1, 2013 - 06:48pm PT
Probably been asked already, but do you have a favorite animal to work on?
Snakes are his favorite, LOL
Tad
Jim Brennan

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May 1, 2013 - 06:50pm PT
Ron,

Does the acupuncture help that sheep stay focused ?
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Topic Author's Reply - May 1, 2013 - 07:04pm PT
Well,, as far as "favorite taxidermy,, ill say birds,, but as far as fav mammalian ,, id say felines , as their facial features are interesting..

And Ys Jim,, the acupuncture helps keep the focus- of the SKIN!;-) Those are "euro pins" - lil sharp tiny pins used to hold the skin into place while drying.
Jim Brennan

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May 1, 2013 - 07:14pm PT
Teasing aside, Woodsey the Owl is a great example of what you do Ron !
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Topic Author's Reply - May 15, 2013 - 07:55pm PT
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every now and then you get a speciman that defys ALL forms and shape.. This DOE gemsbok is just that. The form required 100% re-sizing and shaping as they dont make many DOE gemsbok forms (NONE actually).

The skin is used for sizing, then about four pounds of clay work to re-organize the shape and facial features.

Not to mention those DAMM stripping screws- CHEAP basitds that cant even go into wood without stripping.!!!!!!!!!!!

Im tellin ya,, i could use a COGNAC about now lol!
phylp

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May 15, 2013 - 08:09pm PT
You really do beautiful work.
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Topic Author's Reply - May 15, 2013 - 09:02pm PT
tankU Phylp! And JIM!
T Hocking

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Redding, Ca
May 15, 2013 - 09:41pm PT
Looks like it has Q-tips still in the ears.
Nice work Ron!
tradmanclimbs

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Pomfert VT
May 15, 2013 - 10:11pm PT
I am offended by these dead animals. they are being exploited...
Michelle

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1187 Hunterwasser
May 15, 2013 - 10:35pm PT
Woodsie, lol, nice name. Good looking job too.
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Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2013 - 03:44pm PT
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next comes the Impala, with veins in the face bulging out-- those African Antelopes have VERY short and thin hair..


Tanks Michelle! Woodsy seems a favorite..




Then,, it went ontop the Gemsbok in a "Double Pedastal style mount- all detachable from the base and each other via male/ female square stock steel..


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Topic Author's Reply - May 20, 2013 - 06:45pm PT
My Happy customer, and friend of 40 years or so, Dave Mathiesen with his new mount.. He long bow hunted in Africa for those..All smiles.. A good sign..


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Elcapinyoazz

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Joshua Tree
May 20, 2013 - 06:55pm PT
So I'm curious about the mount. Did he request that stacked type layout, or did you suggest it, or where did the idea come from. Wouldn't be my personal choice, but I guess it also depends on the trophy room where it will live.
mountainlion

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California
May 20, 2013 - 06:56pm PT
You do good work Ron...even if I don't like to see animals killed for sport or stuffing...for food and full use of their parts in a respectful manner I condone

I just hate to see magnificent specimens killed for some person's wall as for your client being all smiles...isn't he in one of those movies where they hunt the humans for sport?
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Topic Author's Reply - May 20, 2013 - 07:01pm PT
ElCap,, yes he requested the "double pedastal" style mount-- just an artsy presentation- a bit more than just "on the wall" if you will..


And Mt Lion,, not ONE bit of those animals went wasted. The hunter gets a meal or two off each one he gets, and local tribes get the rest. A very typical arrangement among outfitters and locals. A win win for all concerned. And also brings in $$$$ to their economy as many locals work for the outfitters. Its a main stay in Africa for quite sometime, and these large ranches also are responsible for the recovery of many specimens, fyi..Poachers usually dont get away with poaching on outfitters grounds. Also a plus for Africa..


and he hunted them with a LONG BOW. if you had the slightest clue of how hard that is in AFRICA,, you may go,, wow,, impressive! In the bush in Africa, everything either a)- sticks you, or b)- bites you..
Jebus H Bomz

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May 20, 2013 - 07:13pm PT
He split my arrow in TWAIN!
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Topic Author's Reply - May 23, 2013 - 01:35am PT
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Thompson Gazelle and an Olive Thrush-- african piece,, table top style pedestal in process...
neebee

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calif/texas
May 23, 2013 - 06:43am PT
hey there say, ron... i enjoyed your work on the owl, very nice!...

just dropped by to say hey there... :)
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 1, 2013 - 01:08pm PT
Hi Neebs!





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ursus americanus
rottingjohnny

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mammoth lakes ca
Jun 1, 2013 - 01:34pm PT
Got any pics of that stuffed Everest Lobster...? RJ
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 1, 2013 - 01:52pm PT
Rj ,, did a lobster for the "Doarys Oar" restaurant at SLT way back, it was their long time aquarium pet- sixty some years old and with the claws it was 3 feet long! HUGE he was!
rottingjohnny

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mammoth lakes ca
Jun 1, 2013 - 01:55pm PT
Ron...Seems like you could use that expanding foam to stuff your projects and cut down on weight...? RJ
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 1, 2013 - 02:07pm PT
Actually RJ,, yes indeed i do use that stuff. For instance on a crocodile, i augment the muscles on the legs shoulders and neck by a small hole using canned foam to squirt in under the skin, then manipulate it from the outside by using tacks, and carding the hold the proper muscle detail- Which is WAY lighter than doing those in six pounds of clay! ;-)

We used to make many forms at AA when i worked there. Heavy fibergalss forms bolted together then injected with 4 lb density foam. If TOO much foam was injected, those forms would EXPLODE like a grenade! Saw a bolt go through a wall lol!
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 11, 2013 - 10:44am PT
Credit: Ron Anderson


Credit: Ron Anderson



STers in the shop-- The Ricardez family, "DirtClaud" here.. Good visit with good peeps!

They head to Tuolumne and YOS today..
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Jun 11, 2013 - 11:09am PT
He split my arrow in TWAIN!

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2013 - 12:22pm PT
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/02/science/with-taxidermists-help-lonesome-george-will-remain-in-public-view.html?ref=science&_r=1&



Ol George, Last of a sub-specie of tortoise now extinct is being mounted by fellow taxidermist George Dante. Will be in the Museum of Nat History soon..RIP ol George. You in good hands.

As a taxidermist, this is one of THE MOST critical jobs one can be tasked with. The preserving of a specie now GONE.. Noooooo pressure there..Along with that it is an absolute HONOR to be the one to do it..
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2013 - 06:52pm PT
SHRINK,, i wanna KILLLL,, i wanna see DEAD BURNT BODIES!


So wrote ol Arlo,, and i FEEL his pain.. I found out that i have just mounted the WRONG BEAR as well as shipping the wrong one off to be dry tanned,, from important new customers. Yes ive been working dang near through the nights to get the piece done,, and its the wrong @$%$@#X! bear..

Mutha of fuggin luvvvvv... I went outside to stand in the lighting cell going off over head in hopes the spirits would see fit for a mercy fry.. Alas, i am back,, but mre cells are coming, theres still hope...

Where is that ten foot steel pole i have???
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jul 2, 2013 - 08:51pm PT
Oh no dude!

Seriously...

At least you didn't amputate the wrong leg on some poor sucker...

This stuff happens
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2013 - 06:41pm PT
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A REPRO Bee hive, complete with honey combs drippin with repro honey! A bear will be sniffing it.


Made by wadding up paper, then surrounding paper with burlap, which held the fix-it-all universal patch compound - of which i sculpted the hive out of as it kicked off. Then painted lightly with a spray bottle and rag. The honey made from 5 minute epoxy gel with wood duck yellow paint mixed in. Nest is bondoed to the tree stub.

A GUD mix of fumage ~~aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Aug 20, 2013 - 07:46pm PT
Nice work. You do touchups?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2013 - 07:47pm PT
yes,, yes i do..;-)
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 10, 2013 - 08:09pm PT
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soooo im delivering a piece to a customer the other day and kept getting weird looks from other drivers.. WTF over?
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Sep 10, 2013 - 09:39pm PT
Kali transplants thought the bear was chasing you.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Oct 21, 2013 - 06:57pm PT
Some of Ron's handiwork moving offices a few weeks back.

Credit: Willoughby


This owl and several other pieces were quite popular at Truckee River Day yesterday. Having a few big, taxidermied birds pulls the kids in like a tractor beam.
MikeL

climber
SANTA CLARA, CA
Oct 21, 2013 - 07:06pm PT
Love that! Impressive.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 21, 2013 - 07:16pm PT
Dang- its ILLEGAL to keep live owls! ;-D


Glad to hear youngsters are enjoying them Will!!! Mounts like that are far more of impact than in any private collections. And i was proud to have helped on that. You do good things with them!!
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Oct 21, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
I posted that pic on Facebook a while back and quite a few of my more imaginative friends thought it was a live bird. And by "imaginative" I mean stupid. But it's a testament to your work - even had a couple of grownups approach the table quite tentatively yesterday, asking if they were alive, would bite, etc.!!
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Oct 21, 2013 - 07:34pm PT



This is probably my favorite of Ron's work...


It's so alive looking...































































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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 21, 2013 - 07:37pm PT
Will,,,guess our next step is "anima-tronics" eh lol!

And Locker,, yes that piece is wuuuunderul !!! even though ,, that,, HEAD,, its a bit off-putting perhaps!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Oct 21, 2013 - 07:40pm PT
^^^ Nice one Locker!


Seriously though, nice looking work Ron.

When you head to work do you psych yourself up by saying 'Game face Ron, game face.'?
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Oct 21, 2013 - 07:40pm PT


Off putting to say the least...

If that thing came walking in my room looking like that I'd blast it all to hell!!!...

LOL!!!...

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 21, 2013 - 07:42pm PT
Me too locker !! GUFFAW!


And Brandon you aint seen game face till a customer brings in a bag with a deer head in it with 17 pounds of maggots . As you open the bag, a gaseous effluent indescribable steals your breath.. .See enlargement of my avatar for detail lol!
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Oct 21, 2013 - 07:43pm PT
Stitch brought this up a while ago, but I'd just like to second his motion for Ron to create a successful marketing campaign for his business through televisions ads, a la Chuck Testa:

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 21, 2013 - 07:48pm PT
hehehe,, YES,, I know Chuck and that was a BRILLIANT add. Absolutely brilliant!
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Oct 21, 2013 - 07:49pm PT


DISCLAIMER:

This IS NOT Ron's work!!!...



However...

pretty sure we do have a winner...











































...

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 21, 2013 - 07:52pm PT
tube sock? ^^^oiiyyyy..Not bad for a first attempt im thinkin.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 21, 2013 - 08:25pm PT
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common "Merg" Drake,, a HUGE one.




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Drake "Woodie" in need of some grooming..



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so how do i post and work? der it izz.

when doing small stuff at work at the desk. Just some recent works.. Not done for some "richazz trophy hunter" - just folks who went hunting, fell in love with the looks as well as the taste and decided to have one mounted. ;-)
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Oct 21, 2013 - 09:09pm PT
Is that a mink?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 21, 2013 - 09:24pm PT
Supposed to be a weasel Brandon..
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Oct 21, 2013 - 10:05pm PT
Ron...Do you know how to stuff a chicken..?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 21, 2013 - 10:09pm PT
chubetchas... Bawkkkk bawwkkkk!


Ya know,, that "running round like a headless chicken" thing is TRUE!
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Oct 21, 2013 - 10:44pm PT
Exemplary work Ron A., your passion shows well. The birds are amazing!!! Where's your shop/studio? I'll pay you a visit one of these days, thanks for sharing.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 21, 2013 - 11:59pm PT
Thanks Charlie! 17A martin dr, in moundhouse--bout a mile past the new railroad bridge on hgwy 50 E oit of carson- right on newman, left on martin. 1/2 way down on the right red brick bldng. If ya hit KITKAT road to the "houses" you can take that and take a right on martin.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2013 - 02:16am PT
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Common Mergansers done for a buddy of mine that got both with one shot. The breasts were consumed and the skins made into a very nice scene. zero waste.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2013 - 02:21am PT
hehehe,, just answered that on the other thread ..!



Their flesh is actually very tasty IF one does not any ANY FAT on the cuts. Their fat smells exactly like what they eat mainly,, fish.. After de fatting one on the wire wheel, my hands smell like a large mouth bass lol!
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Oct 30, 2013 - 02:54am PT
Help me understand why anyone would shoot a couple of beautiful birds like that? Just to eat them, just to stuff them? WTF?

Full disclosure here, I've been duck hunting once with my dad (who grew up on wild meat as they were dirt poor and needed to) when I was a kid. I shot two ducks and felt like sh#t for doing it, I thought it was something I was suppose to do.

Still have the shotgun which I dig and use on occasion to shoot clay pigeons but I don't get the animal killing thing.

Looking at the excellent work Ron has done on those just makes me wonder how and why a person would do that. Such wonderful life to see winging through the world now just stuffed soulless objects...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2013 - 03:08am PT
theres little i could possibly tell you. Many folks eat nearly nothing but wild game. It is far more healthy for one than youll buy in any store. That is all. And many like the way of a simpler life where you were responsible for your kills and food. Its hunters that brought back wildlife to all time highs.. Why not use the skins as well eh? Its called art and it aint art till someone doesnt like it..;-)
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Oct 30, 2013 - 05:13am PT
Thanks for the reply Ron. Still don't get it but I appreciate the artistic work you do.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Oct 30, 2013 - 05:51am PT
Damn, I can't think of the rail station (Mullingar?) that has a stray dog that became part to of the "station" family. When it died it was taxidermisted (is that a word?) and in a case/cabinet on the platform. Weird, but yet, touching.
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Oct 30, 2013 - 09:31am PT
Reasons people eat meat are perhaps a philosophical choice beyond this thread. For myself though, I tend to believe the biologists are doing their jobs managing herds at gealthy levels in an environment that we,ve polluted with non-native species and foriegn plants. For example, I took an elk last year that we,re still eating- it was cheaper than buying a cow, better meat, and better for the environment.

I try not to waste, try tmake a clean kill, and figure when i cant stand the idea that something died to feed me, then its time to give up bacon and go full veggie. So i suppose it keeps me honest about what im eating, which is more than i can say for posting to the forum.

dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
Oct 30, 2013 - 11:30am PT
Charlie,
If you go visit Ron, just look for this right before the turn to his shop. Can't miss it.
Credit: dirt claud
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 30, 2013 - 11:39am PT
The mergansers are beauteous, Ron!

I wish I could convince the wife to have you do a similar flying mount of the condor I found
last month. The wife says our living room is too small. I'll keep it in the cooler until I can
win her over.
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Oct 30, 2013 - 12:17pm PT
jonnyrig-thanks for the response.

What I don't get, is whacking a couple of mergansers. Are they really that popular of a game bird...just 'another' duck so to speak?

And, I wasn't asking about eating meat. Someone who kills their own, and butchers it, and eats it certainly to me is an honest to god carnivore.
I don't, but that's my choice and has nothing to do with it I'm thinking.

Anyway I love seeing those birds do their flybys headed upstream or down.
The original punks they are.
tioga

Mountain climber
pac northwest
Oct 30, 2013 - 01:19pm PT
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2013 - 01:39pm PT
To be connected to who you truly are is a blessing. A hunter doesnt take a kill lightly. His is appreciative of that life he took. He makes use of every part of the kill he can. He is at that moment 100% honest about his canines and how he procures his meat.

And Yes Riley , one can always go BACK into history to find some fault about anything. However, that does not take away from the fact that HUNTERS and their money have made wildlife comeback and comeback so strongly in some cases that spring and fall hunts now occur in an attempt to keep populations in check. What happens these days is fairly responsible harvesting across the spectrum of hunt-able species.

So it is a sport that at the same time provides food AND art or a "trophy" if you will. BASICALLY what my native american folks did all their time in existence here.

tioga

Mountain climber
pac northwest
Oct 30, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
A hunter told me once that if they were a wild animal, they'd want to be killed by a hunter rather than die of natural causes out there, as animals suffer in the wild sometimes...There used to be a lot more predators out there; knowing how wolves and grizzlies do it, I think a bullet is a better way sometimes...I don't hunt but do buy elk or wild pig meat when I can.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
Yep Tioga..

And Riley, some will eat their sushi and never set a hook on a fish. The fisherman however, must still provide that fish to the sushi bars. The person dinning on the latest fosters farm chicken never had to shoot or kill a bird, but none the less that too must be done.

The person enjoying that steak likley never had to squeeze the trigger that made it possible for that steak to be there. But the hunter knows all of the above and therefore develops a very strong appreciation for it all.

We were ALL BORN gatherers, farmers and hunters. This is the way of life as the top omnivore of the planet. It always has been, and always will be. And Taxidermy has roots back to ancient times. Some of the first 3d art ever..
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Oct 30, 2013 - 04:43pm PT
Well, we all do serve a purpose in this old world, even the mosquitos. Maybe humans have evolved a little more, or maybe we,re devolving. I dont hunt for sport, but it is satisfying to make a quick clean kill.

Some of the animals are indeed beautiful, and if i had time i,d take more shots with a camera than a rifle. But i have to make a living, and i have to eat, and i like meat. If its not edible, i dont hunt it. If its a bug, snake, spider etc and its not in my house i dont kill it.

You guys who are veggie or vegan, congrats on keeping that conviction to your principles. Thanks for, at least, trying to understand the rest of us, and letting it be.

Times have changed- people screwed things up in the past, now its going more toward responsible use and management, and trying to restore a natural ecosystem. How effective thats going to be- we,ll see. Meanwhile, lets have some faith that things are managed well and let eachother do our thing.

Thanks Ron, for the nice work.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Oct 30, 2013 - 04:50pm PT
Ron

You're a master of your art. TFPU!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 5, 2013 - 04:17pm PT
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A finished Merriams/ Rio cross typical NV bird...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2013 - 05:14pm PT
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Had a Mouse inda house last night. ^^^ We had some yuks, fiddled some tunes and generally BEE Essed...
splitter

Trad climber
SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Nov 8, 2013 - 05:40pm PT
Those Common Mergansers look awesome! A Mouse from Merced in the house, what an honor. Life is such an adventure. Keep it real, bros! And don't do anything Batso wouldn't do, eh?

edit: "look awesome" - so does the gobbler (WOW)!! I'm gonna have'ta start keeping an eye out for some fresh road kill to bring up to ya. lol

An Uncommon Mouse from Merced, that is!!! ;)
phylp

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
Nov 8, 2013 - 08:29pm PT
Beautiful work as usual, Ron!

It's so nice seeing that Mouse get out and about.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Nov 8, 2013 - 09:42pm PT
Taxidermy isn't REALLY an art. It is simply a (poor) reconstruction of the reality that once existed. I will never understand someone who wants to display a stuffed animal full of chemicals with pride. But I do like deer and elk meat.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
Really now wes.. As a former certified Natl judge for taxidermy competitions, i used MANY art regimes and techniques to judge mounts by.. Like floral art rules, composition and design and color schemes. Things like SCULPTING are judged, air brush and hand painting ,, and even carving, casting or shaping the mannikins along with anatomical accuracy..


I do not put on so much as a grass twig on a scene by random or accident. It is all set to make a "piece flow" which by the way is an ART term..I have a slough of "Artistic presentation awards as well too. On my second in world award plaque its criteria is : Taxidermy skill, ARTISTIC impact and creativity.

And as my mounts routinely fool people that think they are alive,, i dont think my "poor representations" are "poorly" done..


mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Nov 8, 2013 - 10:17pm PT
I don't give a sh#t about how you guys judge each other's stuffed animals... it ain't art. At best it is a poor reconstruction.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Nov 8, 2013 - 10:19pm PT
Good taxidermy (and even some terrible taxidermy) is definitely an art. Hell, even just putting up museum skins is an art. But it also has incredible utility. My organization participates in a great variety of festivals and public events, and having Ron's masterfully lifelike specimens at our booth pulls people in like a tractor beam. They're incredible educational tools. We also use these in many in-school education programs, and they're waaaaay easier to care for than a live bird.

Never mind my goofy face, but here's a shot from Truckee River Day a few weeks back. Lots of people approached cautiously, and several asked if the birds were alive. Horned owls get hit by cars all the time around here, which is a major bummer, so it's fantastic to be able to resurrect one for purposes like this. We at TINS are very grateful for Ron's art.

Credit: Willoughby
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 8, 2013 - 10:20pm PT
Yep its art. Amazing the difference between good and poor taxidermy.

So is the below item someone posted.

Been wondering where the spiderbug went.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2013 - 10:27pm PT
Will,, NICE SHOT-- Love the youngsters there learning about things of nature!


And Climb2ski,, yeah Spidey got moved down here a decade or more ago.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Nov 8, 2013 - 10:32pm PT
hahahaaaa.... your stuffed animals fooled some kids Rong? You must be very proud.

Still ain't art... just a poor reconstruction of what was once reality.

A trade at best. Don't get me wrong, I know plenty of tradesmen who do beautiful work... but it ain't art.
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Nov 8, 2013 - 10:36pm PT
Got a set of those J.W. Elwood Northwestern School of Taxidermy lessons when I was in 8th grade and went out on the local highways and byways looking for road kill to mount.

Boy! Those were the days! How about ordering some preserved frogs for my first lesson? Mom didn't approve of the smell around the house. If I recollect correctly, that's what put an end to my career as a neophyte taxidermist. What do they say about kids who take up morbid hobbies?
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Nov 9, 2013 - 01:51pm PT
Been wondering where the spiderbug went.

Me too!! Where is that thing? Near your shop, Ron? Why'd it get relocated? Looked better up on the rooftop in Reno. It was my favorite Reno landmark for years. Actually, I'm not convinced that's the same one. Face looks different. Quick google search reveals that there's a lot of these out there. Sorry for the thread drift, but anybody know what happened to the Reno one?

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2013 - 01:54pm PT
From the story i got Will,, Ed's RV bought spidey from the Reno locale. And Yeah,, its about 1/10 of a mile from my shop..Its been there for 2 decades i imagine at least..
Spidey is a google earth land mark!


edit: and wessie,, YOU BET YUR azz im PROUD of youths being interested in my ART. In fact i really cant express in type how that picture of Will and kids and the achievement feel to me. To be a small part of a youths introduction to things flora and fauna is a meritorious service ribbon to me.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 9, 2013 - 02:55pm PT
Pinfeathers, mechrist!  Yer an artist at makin' a dork of yerself.
Pinfeathers, mechrist! Yer an artist at makin' a dork of yerself.
Credit: mouse from merced
Give it a rest, okay, dog?
Give it a rest, okay, dog?
Credit: mouse from merced

In my opinion, Willoughby's one of the best at professionalism and artistry in combination.

He gets every little thing perfect.

"Gocd job!"
--Alex T. on Jeopardy!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 9, 2013 - 03:23pm PT
Like that decoy shot Mouser! And the "noodles" too..Her full name,, Sally O-noodles Anderson, aka "Noods".. Max is also known as : "Green bird", "Sweet puhtater" and "Mean green amazon queen"...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Nov 9, 2013 - 08:31pm PT
edit: and wessie,, YOU BET YUR azz im PROUD of youths being interested in my ART. In fact i really cant express in type how that picture of Will and kids and the achievement feel to me. To be a small part of a youths introduction to things flora and fauna is a meritorious service ribbon to me.

yeah, Rong, I pick up what you are putting down. That is how some of us feel when kids (and even grown men) finally pull their heads out of their asses and ACTUALLY learn something about science... instead of insisting they already understand things they clearly have no fuking clue about.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2013 - 05:08pm PT
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A remounted Pronghorn in the 18" class. Before, it was a straight shoulder mount with a very skinny neck and no "posture". The customer was unhappy ( not my work originally) so i got it to re mount.

One of the problems is that in rehydration you can loose hair if not ultra careful of bacteria. Another problem is that in getting a larger neck look, onc must get the skin from somewhere- which means a shortened cape as you must draw the skin forward ( actual taxiDERMY ) --the movement of skin. This drawing forward rises the hair and increases the over all look of the mount. Then you have naked mannequin at the base of the mount that now has to be delt with. I trimmed the back of the mannikin at a 45 degree slant to get the offsweep motion left- while turning his head right. Then built rock and brush starting from a plywood cut out, then hot glueing foam chunks, then sculpting with fix-it-all and vermiculite to create the actual rocks which then are painted via spray bottles and water running or antiquing techniques, aka washes.... It hangs on the wall from one point just as it did before as it is also balanced..
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Dec 14, 2013 - 05:37pm PT
Nice work Ron. Your stuff is art. I disagree with wes about Tradesmen too. There is a difference between the artists and the hacks..
Ian Jewell

climber
Dec 14, 2013 - 05:49pm PT
Credit: Ian Jewell
Credit: Ian Jewell
Credit: Ian Jewell
Credit: Ian Jewell
Credit: Ian Jewell
Credit: Ian Jewell
Credit: Ian Jewell
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2013 - 06:11pm PT
Thanks BigMike! And as you can see from Ians posting,, there is a lot of ART work under the skin as well as over it involved, and it can easily go array, astray and otherwise wrongly! Common thing to argue taxidermy as an art vs trade. The difference is obvious between the tradesmen and artists.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Dec 14, 2013 - 06:35pm PT
You're welcome Ron! I've seen some stuff in person as well that left a lot to be desired. A lot of people seem to think they can wash their own windows too, but they don't typically look as good as mine!
Randisi

Social climber
Dalian, Liaoning
Dec 18, 2013 - 08:16am PT
But has Ron turned any of his artworks into RC helicopters, like this Danish artist?

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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 18, 2013 - 04:46pm PT
No i havent done a quad cat yet...


But heres one of the small bennies of being a taxidermist: A customer/friend just dropped by with a sack full of: elk chops, pork chops, wild caught coho and king salmon, smoked salmon, halibut, antelope sausage and burger.!!! The salmon is deep orange red,, and NO co2 was used in its processing,,100% organic. Caught off Prince sound AK..


Hes also so happy with his remounted antelope and wall habitat he now wants all of his heads re-done with wall mount habitats..
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Jan 8, 2014 - 05:42pm PT
Finally made it to Ron's shop yesterday, to meet the man hisself and drop off a pine marten roadkill from Tahoe City. Very impressive stuff going on that little shop.

Here's the "before" of the marten, all 26" and 2 lb, 7 oz of him (here's another shot for scale). I can't wait to see the "after!"

Credit: Willoughby
skywalker

climber
Jan 8, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
Hey Ron,

Must have missed the thread. Have only viewed a few photos. Great work! My friend I grew up with has a taxidermy business (just noticed). I haven't popped in yet, partly cause I haven't seen him in 26 years and live half a continent away. I need to check him out next time. He was there when I caught a 28 inch chain pickerel 28 years ago. It was 2 ounces(???) shy of the state record.

I got it "mounted" as my 12 yr old b-day gift (biggest catch of anything at the time). I forgot about it after high school but found it in Mom's attic 10 years ago. I've been a high school biology teacher for 9 years now and its proudly presented in my classroom. While not a "trophy fish" it was beautifully done and begs questions/ conversations from students and parents alike year after year.

Cheers!!!

S...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2014 - 05:45pm PT
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WTF

climber
Jan 22, 2014 - 05:53pm PT
Ron go to the Crosby lodge site and check out the large fish of the year so far. Pilot Peak baby its on and im sure we will see a 30 plus pounder in the next two years.

Ill be up there in the spring for some shakers.

http://www.crosbylodge.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=95&Itemid=139
the albatross

Gym climber
Flagstaff
Jan 22, 2014 - 07:54pm PT
Beautiful art you have here Ron. Thanks for sharing..
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2014 - 08:20pm PT
Thanks Albert, And saw that on the other thread WTF!

Heres the finished brown. A replica painted from emailed photos.

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Missing photo ID#341814


photo kinda washes out all my nice halo work. :-/


T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Jan 22, 2014 - 09:17pm PT
Nice work on the trout Ron!!!
Have ya ever done any saltwater species?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2014 - 09:21pm PT
Yep.. Tuna, dolphin fish, marlin, sail fish etc etc. Did a bunch on smaller reef fish for a nature center - all reproductions. Some were fantastic colors!
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Jan 22, 2014 - 09:30pm PT
^^^^
Cool,
Is there a species you haven't done that you would like to do?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2014 - 09:33pm PT
tons of species i havent done.. There is a LOT of em out there! And yeah,, a peacock bass would be cool!
the albatross

Gym climber
Flagstaff
Jan 22, 2014 - 10:02pm PT
Check this out, curious to here your perspective Ron:

Officers seize parakeet at border

Posted: Jan 22, 2014 6:21 PM MST

By Breann Bierman
(Source: U.S. Customs and Border Protection)

NOGALES, AZ (CBS5) -
Authorities have seized a live pet parakeet found inside a camera bag about to make its way across the border.

Customs and Border Patrol agriculture specialists assigned to the Tucson Field Officer seized the animal under the Animal Health Protection Act.

The 41-year-old California man attempting to enter the U.S. with the bird was fined.

The bird was turned over to USDA-Veterinary Service.

CBP said all birds brought into the U.S., with the exception of Canada, must be quarantined for 30 days at a USDA bird quarantine facility.

Birds are regulated since they can carry the viral and bacterial diseases.


(Article fails to mention that birds can fly and routinely ignore such things as international borders).
Q- Ball

Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
Jan 22, 2014 - 11:38pm PT
Hey Ron-

I have always wanted to see a good Hun, or Golden Trout.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2014 - 11:57pm PT
Q,,i believe there here in this thread. I know i posted a golden..

And Albert,, USFWS is dead serious about live critters and dead. You wont believe the paper work and permits required to import dead bird skins!!
tioga

Mountain climber
pac northwest
Jan 23, 2014 - 02:04pm PT
I keep thinking about preserved Lenin and Mao...
Seen Lenin back when I was 11--looked pretty fresh...way ahead of shrunken head technology.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 23, 2014 - 02:12pm PT
Stoned to death and hung out to look stupid.  BPOE, Merced.  The eleve...
Stoned to death and hung out to look stupid. BPOE, Merced. The eleventh hour is at hand.
Credit: mouse from merced
Footloose

Trad climber
Lake Tahoe
Jan 23, 2014 - 02:22pm PT
Ron, Will,
beautiful job on the Great Horned Owl!
just noticed it. Remember to keep it out of sight
and reach of the local scrub jays, maybe Stellar's too?

I used to have a Great Horned Owl from bitd, had it
for years, blue jays discovered it through an open garage
window and over a week's time, flew sorties in there and
ripped it apart. All the while I thought the jays just
had a fascination with my garage!

I mounted it when I was about 16.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2014 - 02:48pm PT
That is funny Foot! I imagine those corvid types and jays would have a field day thinkin,,"hey,, hes just takin it all" !



It took 15 colors air brushed and hand applied for the brown trout, including two colors of scale tipping. From opaques to transparent and shimmer colors.. Takes four main over sprays just to get a base color. With things like cocoa brown and gold pearl used as blending, fading, tinting colors. Those blenders are magic.

The rocks all hand made as well..(cept for the gravel)





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Missing photo ID#341893




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Chim-Chim

climber
Jan 23, 2014 - 03:14pm PT
Ron, I have that wood for your work that I showed you at the Fest. Maybe going to Costco on Tuesday next week I'll let you know to see if you want to meet up... love to get it to you. DAnk
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2014 - 03:18pm PT
Sounds good Chim! Ive thought of that stuff a few times !
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2014 - 07:59pm PT
For sale:Mounted specimens,,,, 1 African cape weaver,, one African Golden breasted bunting,, 1 African king bird,, 1 African Mouse bird. All males.


1 Hungarian partridge male

1- 8 lb largemouth bass repro
1- 2.4 lb Brown trout repro

PM me for details..


edit: all African specimens 100% legally imported per USDA regs. (most are pictured in this thread somewhere.)
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2014 - 12:16pm PT
Well ,, im coming close to the end of my commercial taxidermy life. Ive been at this now for 44 years of my 55 on earth. HARD to believe it has been that long. Ive been a well known dermist - even around the world, but all the talent i was blessed with is only a fraction of the whole enchilada of business.
For the last decade or more, i was on the most popular site in the industry, a large one that averages over 400 users at any time of any day. During this i gave out lessons and tutorials and other articles in that forum in an effort to expand the minds of taxidermists so they might charge a decent price for what is the most under-priced art work out there. This actually backfired in a big way and all that i ended up doing was to help create a swarm of new taxidermists into the field that under cut all pricing, driving the industry backwards. Utter failure for the industry-that.

And in doing so i cut my own throat here in my area as well. In general folks dont know great work from so so work or from flat out bad work. And my business has bee steadily in decline while taxidermists pop out of the wood work around me. All fueled by the very lessons i provided them. Kind of a cut throat deal these days. So the dream is ending. I will still provide a very limited service to those who know me and for places like the Tahoe Institute for Natural Science- as they do great things with the public and KIDS. But as far as my commercial taxidermy business, i must switch gears as im tired of working 24/7 getting nowhere fast. Kind if a heavy heart in some ways and not so in others. Theres a new direction out there somewhere for me and that lends a bit of excitement for a lack of a better word. But i wanted to thank Gene for inviting me to put this thread up for you all here. It has been truly interesting to see the varied reactions from folks not so centered near my industry. So THANK YOU ALL from the bottom of an old heart.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Feb 24, 2014 - 12:22pm PT
Seminars/classes for aspring dermists, gun/hunting show live demos, and high end clientele using contacts of the highest end guide companies.

Just some possibilities to get out of the day to day grind while still capitalzing on the expertise and reputatation. Nothing you haven't thought of I'd guess, but starting over at 50-some?

Good luck in any case.
moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
Feb 24, 2014 - 12:28pm PT
Sorry to hear you are out of business. Good luck with your next endeavor!

You say:

During this i gave out lessons and tutorials and other articles in that forum in an effort to expand the minds of taxidermists so they might charge a decent price for what is the mist under-priced art work out there. This actually backfired in a big way and all that i ended up doing was to help create a swarm of new taxidermists into the field that under cut all pricing, driving the industry backwards. Utter failure for the industry-that.

I say, isn't it a sign you should stay out of politics?

;)

Andrzej
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2014 - 12:28pm PT
BTDT ElCap,, and it take $$$$$$$$$ to get those $$$ clients. For instance a small booth at the SCI show will run 12K or better! And when i started my business it was done so in debt- living off deposits that should have gone to overhead costs. And its been along chain gang sort of deal.

I have other talents that i seek to capitalize on now. My wildland fire experience may get me a job as a fuels manager for the CCFD. My hunting knowledge may get me a job as a hunting sales associate for a popular store now being built in Carson as well. Sometimes companys actually look for those well seasoned as it were lol!


edit: Moose,, ive only BEGUN to be a burr on the arse of my representatives.;-)
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Feb 24, 2014 - 12:44pm PT
My hunting knowledge may get me a job as a hunting sales associate for a popular store now being built in Carson as well

Manning a counter at Bass Pro? Seems a small step above "Fries with that?" or "Welcome to Wal Mart". Seems like some of the hunting shows, like the old Buck-o-rama back in the SE, would pay you to run a booth doing demos. I remember seeing plenty of booths BITD where they weren't a product/service company but something the show itself provided for entertainment/ to draw people in etc. But sounds like you've checked those things out.

What about architectural modeling. The details of plants, rocks, etc that you already model might be desirable for those big firms when they do full on landscape mockups...though the advent of 3-D printers might put an end to that business in short order.

I just can't see standing on your feet all day, entertaining dumb ass questions from an endless procession of n00bs and numpties in a retail environment after running your own show for so long.

There's always commercial trucking. Low barrier to entry, and at least you're on your own program most of the time. Nobody telling you when you get a coffee break, and seems like plenty of demand.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2014 - 12:54pm PT
Thanks for the suggestions. Truly appreciated ElCap. But alas the many things you mention are being done by half of the people in my industry theses days as the effect hasnt hit just me, but them as well. I used to have a CDL and operated much heavy equipment , but a shoulder injury has taken me out of that game.

After years on no sleep worrying about the bills,, a "fries with that" occupation doesnt seem that bad. Considering that i have to call multiple times just to get some one to come in and pay for the work, then get delayed countless times as bills go past due just doesnt cut the mustard anymore.

Im still a climber, but not being able to afford that has also burned my tucas a bit. Theres is a place known as rock bottom. I know this place. I have lived it for the last few years. ANYTHING now is a step up.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 24, 2014 - 01:01pm PT
I just can't see standing on your feet all day,


well, at 63 with my spine I could not do it

but Ron is younger and stronger and ya gotta do what ya gotta do to make a living

you are doing the right thing in recognizing the slow death of private taxidermy and looking for income elsewhere, you know how to get by on less so even $9/hr at a store works

good luck, Ron, sincerely
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2014 - 01:04pm PT
Thanks Norton, and you know what they say about pride-- add 1.25 to it and you can get a cup of coffee. I swallowed that pride down with the coffee.;-)

little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
Feb 24, 2014 - 01:20pm PT
good luck Ron,

hope you're able to find a productive alternative, especially one where you can express your creative spirit.

It's been fun seeing your artwork here. Like taking a trip to the museum.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2014 - 01:30pm PT
Little Z,, or not so little Z,, as ive seen you in the flesh,,thank you for that. As i said upthread, this particular thread brought me great joy- as it came from outside my industry. This was the ONLY place i ever posted such a non topic thread of my work. And the reactions gave me great joy truly. Ive more than made my mark in the field and i can rest easy on that.
In 2007 i was 2nd in WORLD competition, and there was no first, so i was "ontop o da world" for a moment. Its history now,, kinda like my mentions in the history sections of the new climbing guides LOL!

But eyeyaint DEAD yet!
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 24, 2014 - 01:32pm PT
Theres is a place known as rock bottom. I know this place. I have lived it for the last few years. ANYTHING now is a step up.

I lived in that place for a while when I was just a couple of years younger than you are now. Eventually found my way out, and I'm sure you will, too.

Good luck.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Feb 24, 2014 - 01:37pm PT
Dude, this is your art and your chosen life profession. Unless you just don't have the fire in your belly for it anymore, why give it up to a bunch of newbie wannabes?

The market has changed (bummer that you might have had a hand it making that happen)...figure out a way to work within it. Any of us small specialty business owners have had to deal with the big boxes coming to town- you can succeed & excel when you find a way to differentiate yourself from the other lowballing wankers. You need to want to do it, though.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 24, 2014 - 01:48pm PT
Manning a counter at Bass Pro? Seems a small step above "Fries with that?"

Yours truly worked almost seven years for the BN company in BDalton Bookseller in a mall, where most of them are cash cows for mamma. They did not hire me for the new BN store here in town.

I took a post as a seller of used books, a step down, certainly, but I made my customers happy and that was my goal, because it made me happy.

Ron has mad skills at what he knows. I knew reading and books in the same way. Books are a dying breed apparently, much like literate commentary around our vague, misshapen world. Taxidermy is going to the dogs, so to speak.

Ron is not afraid, just not sure where to go next.

Whatever you do next, Ron, take neebee's advice.
A bookmark for you.
A bookmark for you.
Credit: mouse from merced
I am waiting for $$ to send LennyBrews, the deadmouse, my brother & fellow Flame. He may arrive in early March.

I'd like him standing on a rock, shouldering a sharpened yellow pencil ( a #2 with a clean eraser).

Many thanks.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2014 - 01:48pm PT
Apogee, THANK YOU for your words. There is some wisdom in them. They say a business should take five years to fruition, and ive been at my own for the previous 8 years. Those eight years being tough ones that constantly chipped away at at the desire. You hit on something that others label burn out. Ive been asked and even begged to go to taxidermy competitions as a judge or competitor, which i used to LOVE. I havent thought about a show for the last five years or more. The flame is flickering.

But bills are bills and whoever BILL is, i get his mail all the time lol!

I cant even donate to causes like i used to and that upsets me- but again THANK YOU for those words.





edit: Mr MOUSE, Yes indeed, there is more ahead. There is always ahead till yur dead. Just need to kick the wheel and getter spinnin..;-)
jonnyrig

Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
Feb 24, 2014 - 02:37pm PT
Look at it this way-
You dont have to give up taxidermy, and probably wont. What you can do is pick and choose the best of what people bring to you. Unique mounts, exotics, rare species and such that others wouldnt have the opportunity to work with.

And, if you find yourself with a steady, keeps the bills paid kinda job in the meantime, then the money you make on the additional taxidermy work is frosting on the cake. Only without the headache of stressing over next months rent money, nawmean?

Anyway, if you quit altogether, who the hell is gona stuff birds for me when i finally save some disposable income?

Keep truckin dude, summits still out there.
dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
Feb 24, 2014 - 02:57pm PT
Good luck with whatever new ventures come your way Ron. Glad I was able to get a piece made by you before you retire. More climbing time can't be so bad, right :)
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2014 - 03:01pm PT
DirtClaud,, your piece WILL BE finished shortly mi amigo!.. I apologize to you for the delays my friend- it has been a rodeo of a life of late.. And your on my list of those i will happily do projects for in the future. Same with You JRig..
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Feb 24, 2014 - 03:12pm PT
Good luck on whatever trail you choose Ron,
hope the position with CCFD works out for ya!
Tad
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Feb 24, 2014 - 03:17pm PT
Ron this is a sincere question that I hope you will put aside all our amusing differences to take seriously.
I want to save the pelt of my dog Goldie when (hopefully years from now) she passes. I don't think I want to have her mounted in a pose or anything but I have a deep sense that I want to preserve her pelt as a rug or blanket. How weird is that? Now for the weirder part.
I have stripped small game without the intent of saving a pelt. But this would be different. She is a beloved companion and I would not want the pelt f*#ked up by removal or preservation and that is not my field of experience. Pets are not meat if you know what I mean. What I want to ask you is can this be something I do myself? Would it just be way better to have a non emotionally attached professional do it? Then there is the awkwardness of a naked body disposal in the Boulder "Bubble". I have already contemplating burying her remains in the Colorado wild-lands I know. But the thought of either transporting her stripped carcass and getting pulled over or stripping her at the site and being caught just kind of make my head waggle.
I am asking you because I admire the quality of the work you do and thought you would give me a straight answer. Without the ew gross response most people would give me.
dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
Feb 24, 2014 - 03:17pm PT
No worries Ron, I know you got stuff going on, just glad we met and I put an order in for some Quail before you decided to retire. Bummer that taxidermy is going the way of other skill trades/art these days. Good luck with everything.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2014 - 03:39pm PT
Philo, Ive done pet for people. Its far more common than you would think. Nothing wrong with that truly. The animal doesnt need his coat anymore in a spirit world. Indians long ago honored their prey and their own animals in such ways. That being said, I myself couldnt skin some life i loved. My advice would be to contact the pros in the field. I know many in your area, as well as other parts of the country and COLO. They could skin and tan and even "keep on ice" the body for burial or cremation. Dont worry about silly laws concerning the dead. I was told by NDOW after skinning a bear for them and complaining about the 75.00 dump fees, that i should have just taken it out somewhere and fed the animals. You can go to my website to see basic skinning instructions for life sized mounts also. If you decide to do it yourself, after skinning, you must remove all the bits of flesh and sinew from the skin until its "clean, then salt it using non iodized salt by burying it in salt for a couple of days. This sets the hair into the skin and it can then be dried a bit, folded and sent to a tannery. You want the skin somewhat dry at that point.
I hope that answers your questions. I dont think i ever stressed more about mounts than when trying to achieve a look that the person is intimately familiar with. Most taxidermists charge up the wazzooo for these just for that reason..




edit: Thanks Claudio! And Tad!
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Feb 24, 2014 - 03:48pm PT
Thank you Ron I appreciate the solid answer.
Not sure if I could do it or not and really hope I have years to figure it out.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2014 - 03:49pm PT
Ill vote for that Philo..!
jeepnphreak

Ice climber
Bzn, mt
Feb 24, 2014 - 04:43pm PT
Mighty hunter
Mighty hunter
Credit: jeepnphreak
the albatross

Gym climber
Flagstaff
Feb 24, 2014 - 05:33pm PT
Best of luck, Ron. I'm sure most of us have been in the downs at some point or other in their lives. I know I have.

I hope you get the fuels job, it's obvious you have a great understanding of wildland fire and I'm sure you would be a valuable asset to the program.

I still might be hitting you up if I'm lucky enough to land a monster Striped Bass.

Albert
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 3, 2014 - 06:25pm PT
For sale,, 1 5 foot black bear rug- felt liner and borders with hanger clips, open mouth finished head going for COST----485.00 plus shipping. Excellent quality hair, jet black..


Credit: Ron Anderson
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Jun 3, 2014 - 06:28pm PT
A fine offer! I'd snap it up but I don't have that chalet built yet. I suppose it's illegal to ship it to California or something dumb like that. Frigin state won't let me mail order elk hide and won't let Tandy carry it either.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 3, 2014 - 06:30pm PT
Actually, perfectly LEGAl in California,, i know,, shocker...;-) And yes, the price is giving it away..!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jun 3, 2014 - 06:39pm