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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Jan 29, 2016 - 09:40pm PT
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Mike in the deconstructed house YO!
Let me try:
Mike has separated from his own opinions enough to embrace the longer and fuller story of organic experience. He understands that his constructs are useful but that intellectualizing the human experience has limits. Something something something. I forget.
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 30, 2016 - 06:14am PT
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Flip Flop: Something something something.
Beautifully said (seriously).
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MH2
Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
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Jan 30, 2016 - 07:56am PT
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There may be something in what Flip Flop said.
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Bushman
Social climber
Elk Grove, California
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Jan 30, 2016 - 09:30am PT
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The Hunt for the Wild Yuaskme
It was late one stormy night
In a tribute to the ancestors
For their journey through the cosmos
And the wreck of the Chrysalis Zephyr
We went hunting the wild Yuaskme
But the Drahgharr was heard stalking
As the smoldering acid scat sign
Had the younger hunters talking
And old man Walter Hodges hushed
The young un's as my hand went up
Signaling it was out there
And Renny rustled in the stirrup
As Renny clicked the safety off
The plasma cannon softly hummed
The fog it whispered sweatily
Between my ears my heartbeat thrummed
The smell and cry were unified
I wheeled the hover trike about
The Drahgharr had caught us up
I heard screams and then a stifled shout
My name was Yates Tanner
I left Mars all those years ago
As a boy searching the future
Of boredom what could I know?
A magneto-inertial fusion malfunction
In orbit around Savoydz Five
Wounded me in the accident
I drifted for days half dead but alive
I stared at them till my eyes turned black
The Twin Moons of Savoydz Five
Finding peace in all the lonely horror
I knew in me something had died
And now on another hunting ground
I lie half conscious but alive
Sure that stillness equalled life
But that silent death might still arrive
The old man and all the young un's
Gone but Renny was on his feet
He said poor Hodges lay nearby
But the others had been much fresher meat
They'd been whisked away by the Drahgharr
Her scaly black and feline ways
Had brought sure death and mayhem
To our Yuaskme hunt that day
Now I ride a reversed electron
Back to my favorite boring day
To the home planet of my birth
But those red sunsets so far away
In a life pod during a dust storm
Where a boy can dream for weeks and days
No childhood dreams could ever portend
When the hunted will hear what death would say
In a cold and icy orbit
Or in battles on foreign lands
We might see once more our mothers face
Or the grasp of our fathers hand
-bushman
01/30/2016
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Jan 30, 2016 - 09:15pm PT
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^^^^
Really nice poem, Bushguy.
(Is that Assyrian or Persian?)
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Bushman
Social climber
Elk Grove, California
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Jan 31, 2016 - 04:06am PT
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I honestly don't know, Mr Gill.
Found it on a Google search for mythical alien oxen beast or something like that and it struck me as apt for my poem so I saved the image. I haven't been able to repeat the search wording exactly right to find it again. Still searching for it though, I should have saved the subject name and source.
Ok,
Found the pic and it had this link;
https://phillipkay.wordpress.com/2014/05/13/harappa/
Looks like it was about artifacts and history from the region between Pakistan and Afghanistan between 10,000 to 2,500 BC, not verified. It was a strange article, with humorous references to ancient astronauts from andromeda. A writer's blog? So I'm thinking, ancient Persian, from Harappa and the Indus Valley. Any historians want to help me out here?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jan 31, 2016 - 08:31am PT
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appears to be Sumerian, most of the references to it are to the story of Gilgamesh, the part in which he slays the lions...
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Something something something
Profound, but how does this relate to no-thing?
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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With Gummy Bears?
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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There appear to be three crises that affect ST, or its Mind thread:
The Crisis in Physics:
"During a talk at the Kavli Institute for Theoretical Physics at the University of California, Santa Barbara, Nima Arkani-Hamed, a physicist at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, N.J., paced to and fro in front of the blackboard, addressing a packed room about the future of supersymmetry. What if supersymmetry is not found at the LHC, he asked, before answering his own question: then we will make new supersymmetry models that put the superpartners just beyond the reach of the experiments. But wouldn’t that mean that we would be changing our story? That’s okay; theorists don’t need to be consistent—only their theories do.
This unshakable fidelity to supersymmetry is widely shared. Particle theorists do admit, however, that the idea of natural supersymmetry is already in trouble and is headed for the dustbin of history unless superpartners are discovered soon…"
Ed's bailiwick.
The Crisis in Mathematics:
"The foundational crisis of mathematics (in German, Grundlagenkrise der Mathematik) was the early 20th century's term for the search for proper foundations of mathematics. Several schools of the philosophy of mathematics ran into difficulties one after the other in the 20th century, as the assumption that mathematics had any foundation that could be consistently stated within mathematics itself was heavily challenged by the discovery of various paradoxes (such as Russell's paradox)."
Most mathematicians find this philosophical quagmire irrelevant.
The Crisis of Cattail Crossing:
The fumes that emanate from this nondescript pond are more annoying than noxious.
Has JL experienced a Crisis in Confidence?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Has JL experienced a Crisis in Confidence?
doubtful, more like the crisis of the deadline...
as for SuperSymmetry... so far it doesn't look like it's there... I've often posted to these threads that this is probably the most importing finding of the LHC. With the current dataset at high energy and high luminosity the lack of signs of supersymmetry put the whole idea into question.
What is supersymmetry?
In the standard model, there are two types of particles, the bosons, like the photon, the W and Z, the gluons (which bind the quarks together) and fermions, like the electron, muon and tau (and their associated neutrinos) and the quarks.
Bosons follow "Bose-Einstein" statistics, in particular, they are happy to gather together in the same quantum state when in combinations. Fermions follow "Fermi-Dirac" statistics and are subject to the Pauli Exclusion Principle, no two fermions can be in the same quantum state. This is the reason that matter is stable.
These symmetries arise from deep physical principles. However, in thinking about models "Beyond the Standard Model" theorists came up with compelling reasons to think that there exists a symmetry of nature between these two classes of particles.
One of the consequences of this would be the discovery of a class of particles which were analogs to the existing particles, but with the other statistic... thus every boson in the standard model is associated with a fermion in the supersymmetric model, and vice versa.
Aside from some awful names like the Wino (which is the fermionic counterpart to the W boson) a whole new zoo of particles should be discovered. In particular, this starts the wedding of the strong interaction with the electroweak interaction, a unification much anticipated.
Estimates of the energy range, referred to as the "unification scale" where this should happen put it within the reach of the LHC. But nature isn't cooperating.
The theories of supersymmetry with much higher "unification scale" aren't so interesting... and without some sign of the scale, it isn't likely we'll keep building larger and larger accelerators, we've pretty much reached the limit in terms of technology (though there might be some clever tricks coming up).
This is the crisis... but there are other ways to go forward, other ideas... and while, in some theorist's opinions, these ideas may not be as elegant... beauty is in the eye of the beholder... physics will carry on if supersymmetry isn't the answer.
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MH2
Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
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There's also the crisis of Jake's trouble in math class. And my trouble climbing like Alex.
But it is odd how, when Spring arrives and the rock warms, the soreness leaves my fingers and I am again 17 years old.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Thanks Ed, that made sense for us laymen of a very complex topic.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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There's also the crisis of Jake's trouble in math class
Sadly, Jake passed away last fall before reaching differential calculus.
Thanks for the commentary, Ed.
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MH2
Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
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Jake reminds us that, splendid though mathematics is, there are other Annapurnas in the lives of men and dogs. Thanks for letting us know, John.
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Bushman
Social climber
Elk Grove, California
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The Best is Yet to Be Forgotten
It's easier when you're wrong
The messed up lyrics to a song
I left the door open wide
There's no place left to hide
False pride inducing strife
The story of my life
Taking measure of my best
The pinnacles and all the rest
Mix well with some experience
Bad temper and indifference
Add luck into the game
Noting nothing stays the same
What I should'a would'a ought'en
'Cause the best will be forgotten
But every brand new day
Is still different in some way
And it needs no exaltation
As it exceeds all expectation
So if things I can't remember
From November to December
Happen once again
Then time becomes my friend
As the good times keep'a rollin' by
Someday I won't remember why
-bushman
02/05/WHEN
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Here I've taken the nth approximate of an analytic continued fraction and started chopping off the tail ends . . .
Just a visual break from heavy discussions here.
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