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Sonic

Trad climber
Hilly, but no rocks Folsom, California
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 19, 2011 - 02:17am PT
Anybody have a favorite list for anywhere in Tahoe?
213

climber
Where the Froude number often >> 1
Jul 19, 2011 - 03:15am PT
Here's a starter day that gives a nice tour of Donner:
Huffer .6
Wide top out option on One Hand Clapping .6?
MAry's Crack .8
Hairshirt .8
Rat's Tooth Right .9
Firecracker .10b (OW is maybe .8)
New Moon .10d (same thing, easier OW but fun!)
Lightning bolt roof stuff looks hard!
KitKat

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe
Jul 19, 2011 - 03:35am PT
Offwidth your head at Echo Lakes, and of course the 2nd pitch of Traveller's Buttress... and the overhanging OW boulder problem at the Lover's Leap boulders... Sugarloaf has some exciting OWs as well! Have fun throwin your body into the wyde!!!!
Sonic

Trad climber
Hilly, but no rocks Folsom, California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 19, 2011 - 03:00pm PT
Thanks! Good start!

New Question: Anyone want to go climbing this weekend in tahoe?
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Jul 19, 2011 - 03:31pm PT
Here are some more from Donner (includes chimneys):

Labyrinth .6
Minotaur .7
Inside Out .8+ (a very cool route - needs more traffic!!)
Devaluation Direct .9+ (brief section of fists at start)
Bottomless Topless .10a
Jam Session .10b (some chimney and fist practice is possible, but not exactly required)
Rick and Eric's .10b (easy to toprope, btw)
Full Tilt .11a
The Hook .11d

Lots of good wide down at Sugarloaf!!!
Sonic

Trad climber
Hilly, but no rocks Folsom, California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 19, 2011 - 04:00pm PT
Awesome!

Well looks like Ill be hanging around Donner this weekend!
Cheesefubar333

Trad climber
Sacramento, CA
Aug 15, 2012 - 01:50pm PT
Does anyone know any good places near Tahoe to practice leavittation. I've been hunting down good offwidths but have yet to find anything that requires multiple calf/knee locks and stacks...just a lot heel toes and armbars.
Texplorer

Trad climber
Sacramento
Aug 15, 2012 - 02:44pm PT
Here is a fun little thing I found a few years ago.

http://www.mountainproject.com/images/11/2/107021102_large_4ca612.jpg
BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Aug 15, 2012 - 04:30pm PT
Truckee boulder or sanitation boulder or poo boulder, whichever you call it. Its a good one.
426

climber
Aug 15, 2012 - 04:51pm PT
Crystal Bay Boulder has 2 very good (9, 10c)

N. Face Lover's Leap, P. Haan variation...very good

Barney Rubble, eagle lake clffs-wide and dirty, & awesome

there's another 6" crack up there (Crackula?) and a good fist unit (Buster Brown?) that I remember being quite good, plus a whole lotta classic hands and fingers.


Lightning bolt is like one weird fist(? if that, secret sequence) but very cool and daunting...

Like ROn A sez good wide at Pie Shop and woodfords, could easily make a day of 10 short pitches...many obscure like "Shelob's Lair"
bergbryce

Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Aug 15, 2012 - 05:08pm PT
Good stuff, I've been wanting to practice the wide myself.
Squeeze and Wheeze at Echo Lake looks awesome but short and has about a 3 minute approach.

There is a heinous looking squeeze in the corner uphill and to the right of Space Walk at Eagle Lake. I don't think it has any pro which is a shame because it looks awesome.

I've come across numerous shorter, dirty cracks that would offer great OW training. Some are on obscure chunks of rock with no known routes, others are at existing crags. Does anyone think anyone would object to scrubbing one of moss and loose bits and putting a TR anchor up top?
mark miller

Social climber
Reno
Aug 15, 2012 - 05:33pm PT
Hey 426, Ron A and I were talking about you on Saturday night... Funny Shite, wish you were here, sounds like a Pink Flood song , Ah? Literally, wish you were here.
Crystal bay is full of punishment and so is Travelers, but honestly neither one of them is long enough to teach off width .
Mr_T

Trad climber
Northern California
Aug 15, 2012 - 05:41pm PT
South Shore/Leap:

Traveler's Buttress is a good one at 5.9
Black Opal was kind of fun at 5.10, though more wide shallow groove.

And there's the OW boulder problem near where the trails converge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiAVM1JNtbk
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Aug 15, 2012 - 05:43pm PT
BuddhaStahlin, that's a good one I'd forgotten about.
scuffy b

climber
heading slowly NNW
Aug 15, 2012 - 05:57pm PT
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmWN4b-RYJQ[/url]


This is where, Sugar Pine State Park?

Looks really good.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 18, 2014 - 08:30pm PT
BuddhaStahlin,

Despite living in Truckee for a bunch of years, I've never gone and checked that thing out. I have a few questions for you, or whoever might be able to answer:

1) is that really this boulder?


2) is protectable after this point? If there's an anchor up top, it looks worthy for mini-traxion laps!

3) what's access like now that "The Boulders" development went in? Is it even still there?

4) Where in the hell is it???? Can somebody please point to it in this photo?

Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Mar 18, 2014 - 08:45pm PT
Willoughby, it's been years, but as best as I can remember (I only checked it out once on recon) you walk out the tracks toward the lake from Albertsons and you'll find it. Thirty feet tall or so, fixed anchor on top, kinda manky if I remember correctly. Easy scramble up the backside to TR it. Take pictures!

Edit; I just checked google earth. See that little rocky peninsula center left of your screen shot? That's it. You can see the OW clearly.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Mar 18, 2014 - 09:16pm PT
One of the best i've done, and i've done many, is on Flagpole Peak above Echo Lakes.The route is called Jam Session, 3 pitches. 1st short pitch is a direct start that turns an overhang in an offwidth, 5.10a or so by modern standards, and delivers one to the base of the money pitch in a large right facing corner.2nd pitch climbs the long high quality offwidth in the corner to a stance at its top, probably 5.10b good pro. 3rd pitch continues in varied size cracks 5.9 to the top. Bill Todd and i did the probable FA or at least FFA in 1974.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 18, 2014 - 11:45pm PT
Well, shitfire, Brandon, if I'd waited for your edit I might have saved myself some guesswork! I'd been assuming that it was much closer to the shopping center. Also, you can drive right to it!

Anyway, I went out and found it with plenty of time for an anchor recon and a sunset squirm. There are FOUR sets of anchors on top. One is for a sport route to the left of the crack. One is on the lip above the crack. One is maybe for some full-body chimney fun on the backside? And maybe the other is to rap or protect the 5.easy scramble up the back? I have no idea why there are so many anchors, but they're there. Easily top-ropable. On lead I suppose you could push a #6 for a short ways, and then there are a couple of manky flakes inside that look like they might take some 0.5-0.75 camalots.


Bit more graffiti now than in that Bachar photo:


You can also see that somebody has heaved some cheater chockstones in there at the bottom. They're deep enough that they're easily avoided though. She overhangs a bit:


Easy 5th class scramble up the back:


And here's my fat arse for scale:


Between the overhang and a fair bit of broken glass at the base, I think I'm going to want a rope to go any higher.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Mar 19, 2014 - 01:49am PT
I'm awed bump, although it's still on the first page.

Shoot me now, but I even like the graffiti. 'Course it pales next to the wide crack and stud Willoughby's technique. But dude, no socks?
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 19, 2014 - 02:01am PT
Socks? Pshaw!! Socks are aid. But honestly, it's way too wide to graze the ankles (unless you're flailing around inside like a spastic or something). Establishing move for me was a high but solid knee, and it just slowly widens from there on up.

If anybody is interested in this thing, I'm planning on beating it into submission with post-close-of-business top rope sessions over the next couple of months. Feel free to PM me.
Guangzhou

Trad climber
Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
Mar 19, 2014 - 02:09am PT
What a list. My wife just might hate some of you before summer is over. We'll be in Tahoe most of summer. Out of shape for climbing after the 5 to 6 month MOngolian winter, but should be able to climb most days. Feel free to look us up.
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Mar 19, 2014 - 02:13am PT
Old stomping grounds....it was called the Truckee Boulder offwidth when I first went there in 1982. No graffiti, broken glass, bolts or any of that sh#t. Actually, the only eyesore was a rusty stud ladder on the steep side.

The wide crack left side in was rated 5.9, right side in 5.9+. We used to run laps on it. I never once roped up out there, nobody did. Once your torso is in it's over with.

Good slab and thin face bouldering out there as well. Did a few good problems in the mid 80's on a boulder that ended up rolling into the drink.

Kurt, myself, Bobby Baldwin, Tim Maas, Mike Davis, John Larsen, Dave Lewinter, Skippy......Truckee kids getting our kicks.
bergbryce

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Mar 19, 2014 - 02:16am PT
anyone mention self abuse at midway rock, sugarloaf? that thing makes my skin crawl when i walk past it, but in a good way.
http://www.mountainproject.com/v/self-abuse/107031040

Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 19, 2014 - 02:26am PT
Self-abuse:


Speaking of the Loaf, I still have unfinished business on TM's Deviation ... but that's a whole other bunch of threads.
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Mar 19, 2014 - 09:22am PT
a good spring outing
is to climb all of the wide routes at sugarloaf
in a day. 30 plus pitches, ya
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 19, 2014 - 12:57pm PT
Weeg, have you actually done that? How often do you suppose the Fat Merchant gets tackled?
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Mar 19, 2014 - 07:20pm PT
it was paul crawford's idea.
it was also the first time that i roped up with this fella,
who i hold in extremely high esteem.

so we trudge up the slope,
and i offer,

"we should start with the fat merchant, and get it over with.
i'll lead it."

paul said that he remembered getting a no. 5 before the crux.
this differed from mine memory but i destroyed that a long time
ago.
i usually don't even bring gear
and then just haul it up after the crux,
so i try paul's idea and it's horribly tipped out,
it stays for a bit then pops out and rattles down the rope.
x-terrain for sure.

i scraped it out, literally.

it was all downhill after that.
tm's, east and west chimney, farley, the fang, hardings,
i can't think of the name of the chimney left of pony express,
the fly, self abuse, others too, like i said, the whole memory thing aint mine.

a great day, ending with "the fly" on sugarbun
in the dark.

paul thought the day was on par with say the steck salathe.
and his opinion is quite valid.

i don't think the merchant see many leads,
maybe a couple a year?
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 19, 2014 - 08:14pm PT
Weeg, that day is null and void without Scheister. It may only be 5.7, but you did say "all." I'm sure, as you've suggested, your memory is failing to account for the fact that you did climb it. Sounds like one long, physical beat-down!

I'll admit it, Fat Merchant Crack scares me. Didn't somebody die falling out of that thing? Back in the late 80s maybe?
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Mar 19, 2014 - 08:22pm PT
i know that few years back,
a local doctor fell from the
horizontal crack that traverses
a pitch above fat merchant,
(his rope chopped on a knob)
i can't remember the route name??

and he came to rest at the
base of the fat crack.

oh,
i think we fell short of sheister.
we'll have to go back and clean up that effort.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 19, 2014 - 08:51pm PT
Bummer. Story I heard was that the Fat Merchant itself had claimed a life.

i think we fell short of sheister.
we'll have to back and clean up that effort.

That's the spirit!!! If I were in any kind of shape I'd offer to join you, but I know an attempt at such a day right now would defeat me utterly. I do need to get into Steck-Salathe shape for this summer though. Maybe check back in May...
Laine

Trad climber
Reno, NV
Mar 20, 2014 - 04:52pm PT
Gotta throw in Rebirth and Offwidth Out You at Deadwood Wall in Woodfords into the mix. A bit grainy and green, but still great. As far as I know Karsten and I have the only leads on OWOY.
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Mar 20, 2014 - 08:07pm PT
CV the cut rope was on Blind Faith. The same fate came close to a Ghoulwe, The Great Stein years before. I think it was Eric Barret that lowered a rope to him as he swung in the breeze looking up at a nearly severed rope....yikes.

PS...impressive day indeed!!!
scooter

climber
fist clamp
Mar 20, 2014 - 08:36pm PT
Always difficult! Great circuit in Yose too!
Salamanizer

Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
Mar 20, 2014 - 09:33pm PT
That sounds like a fun day Weege, never really thought of doing that. It's on my soon to happen list now.

Did East Wall in a day once. 11 routes in about 9 hours or about.
Any route is fair game, it just has to go to the top and not be a one pitch variation of another route (example: Preparation H.)

We did;
Pop Bottle,
East Corner,
Haystack,
Fantasia,
Scimitar,
East Crack,
Bears Reach,
East Wall,
The Line,
Psychedelic Tree
and Fandango.

I'd like to add another route or two this year but not sure what, maybe Piggies or Fear no Evil or something.

Just need to find a solid partner I can sucker into it. Gotta be solid, you pretty much have to simul everything with a half rack to pull it off.
Lone Quail

Trad climber
Littleton, Colorado
Mar 20, 2014 - 09:58pm PT
Don't miss Eyeore's Enigma at Lovers Leap.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 25, 2014 - 04:24am PT
Put in a little minitraxion time at the Crystal Bay Boulder Friday evening and snapped a couple of pics. Great spot!


No idea why that's getting rotated, but I can't seem to fix it from my phone. Regardless, you get the idea.
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Mar 25, 2014 - 04:31am PT
third stone and then god of thunder
are must do's for the accomplished groveler.
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Mar 25, 2014 - 08:44am PT
a couple shots of self-belayed-self-abuse
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Apr 18, 2014 - 01:55am PT
Made it back to the Truckee Boulder Offwidth this evening.

KP said "Once your torso is in it's over with." Sure, sorta, but I didn't get in there until about halfway up. She seemed hell-bent on not letting me in until I'd earned it.

My assessment:
Mini-traxion + squeeze = PITA. Nonetheless, I'm not quite ready to ditch the rope on this thing.
Bottom 1/4 - pretty easy, esp. with chockstones and stuff on the right wall for your foot
Top 1/3 - very easy chimeny
Middle coupla body lengths - not a gimme, but psyched to smooth this out. Chickenwings aplenty!

PS - anybody up for some groveling on Sunday? TM's Deviation, perhaps?
pvalchev

Social climber
Truckee, CA
May 9, 2014 - 05:46pm PT
I walked over to check out the Truckee boulder offwidth while smogging the car at Quality Auto next door... the broken glass and graffiti is a real shame! Wonder what it would take to clean it up (especially the graffiti)? Can we collect some money to get it done professionally or would someone in the town be interested in doing it?

Also the access road has a locked gate as of today... don't seem to be able to drive to it. That said, it's a 10 minute walk from the parking lot (in fact, seems like it's less likely to end up with more broken glass and crap if the gate is locked?)

Some day I'll go and actually try it ;)
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
May 9, 2014 - 06:21pm PT
I think that gate is always locked. Graffiti is a bummer, but I'm more inclined to do something about all the glass. I'd definitely be game to spend an hour with a broom, but it'd be tough with all the nooks and crannies and sandy gravelly whatnot.

Let me know if you ever want to throw a rope on that thing. Late afternoons/early evening mid-week are often good.

View from within the maw:


pvalchev

Social climber
Truckee, CA
May 9, 2014 - 07:01pm PT
Oh I thought on the previous page you said you can drive right up to it... I assumed you found the gate unlocked :)

Yeah I was sketched out walking around in flip flops. The whole area around that road next to the tracks is full of trash, tons of broken glass, real bummer. We might be able to scoop the glass together with the dirt, but we might generate a lot more garbage than we can hike out that way.

I'll PM you for throwing a rope on it too, sounds good!
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
May 9, 2014 - 08:30pm PT
On my first visit I wasn't expecting a road, and I assumed it was an obscure, but open road. Then I noticed the gate (after that earlier post). Every time I drive by now, I look at the gate - always closed.
Aki J

Trad climber
Placerville, CA
May 9, 2014 - 08:48pm PT
+1 for "Jam Session" on Flagpole at Echo Lakes. Very cool setting, very few ascents each year. There is maybe a 40+m sustained corner on it that goes from wide hands to OW
Dave Johnson

Mountain climber
Sacramento, CA
May 10, 2014 - 12:22am PT

CV the cut rope was on Blind Faith. The same fate came close to a Ghoulwe, The Great Stein years before. I think it was Eric Barret that lowered a rope to him as he swung in the breeze looking up at a nearly severed rope....yikes.

CD, I was on the belay when Stein led around the corner on Blind Faith. I followed Jon Bowlin on it the week before and sold Stein on it's worthiness. Stein fell and was dangling, we looked horrified to see the rope sheath was cut 1/2-way through. We told Stein to stay still and someone, I think Eric Barrett or George Connor, climbed up to our position so we could lower Stein a rope.
Scary day, scary route.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
May 19, 2014 - 02:48am PT
Took a lap on Dropout, Right, on the east face of Snowshed tonight. The top half or so widens quickly from hands to fists to off-fists (about the time you get a knee in) to heel-toe and chickenwing. There's a point where the heel-toe dropped out for a bit, but it's still chickenwing glory for a nice stretch.

I went left side in and the wings felt super solid. My buddy went right side in, and had more of a reverse Pratt's Crack thing going with his left foot kick-starting the lefthand wall. Looked pretty good, but he called it quits about halfway through, so hard to say which was better. I'll be back to try 'em both. Fun route.

Getting to the crack was a bastard, though, but especially with cold fingertips (cold and windy up there tonight!!). We both took the 11a, arching lieback to underclingy whatever to fall on the toprope and just start over in the damn crack variation. I think the direct approach from the left is more like hard 10.

It's pretty coarse in there; I recommend long sleeves for the wings and tape for the hands/fists section.
pvalchev

Social climber
Truckee, CA
May 24, 2014 - 01:44am PT
Here's a few shots of the boulder offwidth tonight with Willoughby - good times!!!

Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
May 24, 2014 - 02:20am PT
Yeah, Peter!! That was good fun!

Too many laps of left-side in wings this week? Can't wait to see what this looks like tomorrow. Wall-to-wall bruise.

KP Ariza

climber
SCC
May 24, 2014 - 03:41am PT
Hats off boys!!

Wonder what it would take to rid that stone of graffiti....
I might have to grab a six pack and use an afternoon to give it a go. This place deserves it.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
May 24, 2014 - 05:26pm PT
There's a flake on the left side of that crack, so your chickenwing rests over the hard edge of that sucker. So I guess when you hang your body weight over that edge, off the back of your arm, over and over and over again, you get this. Colors are coming in quite nicely:

Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Apr 27, 2015 - 01:48pm PT
I haven't climbed shite in months, but it's time to reboot some Tahoe wide practice. Hit me up if anybody's interested in some late afternoon/evening chickenwing and grovel sessions.
mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Oct 22, 2015 - 06:21am PT
Tommy Herbert's kids' climbing class/group cleaned the graffiti off the rock and junk from around the rock. Pretty cool place. I'd never been there and bouldered around on the bottom. Not a gimme-you gotta want it....

From across the pond. Jaybro-maybe the Midget Chimney...
mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Oct 22, 2015 - 06:24am PT
Right on!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Oct 22, 2015 - 07:07am PT
Did Tom get on it?
mastadon

Trad climber
crack addict
Oct 22, 2015 - 07:10am PT

He wasn't there. If he had, it would now be a chimney from bottom to top.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Oct 22, 2015 - 07:47am PT
It already is
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Oct 22, 2015 - 09:17am PT
This place looks glorious for those already in Tahoe! Not quite enough to make a destination of it from SF Bay Area or further out, but I'll keep this specific line in mind next time I drive through there.
adventurous one

Trad climber
Truckee Ca.
Oct 22, 2015 - 10:39am PT
Great to see that graffiti cleaned up! Thanks kids. Back to being such a fine looking chuck of granite. :)

Edit: Never knew about the petroglyphs. Interesting that there are two left hands, one smaller than the other. Male and female? Father and son? Interesting.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Oct 22, 2015 - 11:29am PT
Wow, spotless - looks great! Hats off and big thanks to the cleanup crew!!!

EDIT: any sign of petroglyphs as you were scraping off all the paint? That boulder is called Prayer Rock by some, and used to have a pair of handprint petroglyphs. Anybody remember that from back in the day? There's a photo from the 40s at the Truckee jail museum that shows them.

adventurous one

Trad climber
Truckee Ca.
Oct 22, 2015 - 01:51pm PT
If you are into offwidth don't miss "Manitou" (sustained 5.9+) at Big Chief (yes, there actually are some great trad routes at Big Chief) The top 45', of this 155' tall route, is fun and physical offwidth/squeeze chimney. Surprised this rarely climbed, fine line doesn't get climbed much more often. Bring a long sleeve shirt as parts of the offwidth are very abrasive. Definitely worth bringing a rack out to Big Chief (Primarily a sport crag) to do this classic route.

darshahlu

Trad climber
Irvine, CA
Nov 4, 2018 - 12:52pm PT
What is the name of that offwidth/squeeze chimney near Truckee / Donner Pass?

This one:
https://youtu.be/vDROJUs2vZg

Went and checked it out this weekend. Its pretty sweet.

[edit]
and what is the name of the boulder? "Prayer Rock"?
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Nov 5, 2018 - 02:42pm PT
I'm surprised no one mentioned Karl's Overhang. It's to the left (Southwest) of Short Subject at Donner, uphill from Schoolhouse. I could make it to the jug at the end of the steep but no further. Never heard of any second ascent. Anybody send that thang?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 5, 2018 - 07:02pm PT
Yup, I climbed it first in around 93. Tom Herbert has done it before he was a Doctor. It’s had at least a handful of ascents. I have photos somewhere. I tried to insight free solo it, chickened out when I reached over the lip and downclimbed.
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