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Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 12, 2011 - 12:50pm PT
Sorry no metaphysical esoterica here just a little hardware quandry...




I posted these shots on another thread. Does anyone recognize these wired nuts? Stephane was stumped and so am I.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 12, 2011 - 09:49pm PT
Nut bump...
klk

Trad climber
cali
Jun 12, 2011 - 09:53pm PT
no.

early '80s knockoffs? the proportions are different, shorter wires, fatter loops. but contrasting sleeves.

hard to tell w/o something to scale.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jun 12, 2011 - 10:22pm PT
Steve: Just a Wild Ass Guess???

1981 Mark Vallance launches Wild Country Rocks which were to become the first curved nut and the most copied chock in the world and still remains the definitive design to the present day.

http://www.wildcountry.co.uk/about-us/product-timeline/
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Jun 13, 2011 - 01:43am PT
hah, i seriously clicked on it for the philosophical discussion.


i may hijack the thread later on. muahahahaha


cheers,
M
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 18, 2011 - 03:28pm PT
Karabump!
crunch

Social climber
CO
Jun 18, 2011 - 03:46pm PT
it's a "Troll!"

(maybe?)
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 18, 2011 - 04:16pm PT
Indeed, I am trying to find someone that bit on some of these...LOL
MisterE

Social climber
818 Yo!
Jun 18, 2011 - 04:49pm PT
You stumped Stephane?

That seems like it is a rarity...
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Jun 18, 2011 - 05:07pm PT
Aren't these early Troll wires? Really lame. I have a sling style one on my desk back at the office; I will photo it this evening when I get back there and we take a look
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 18, 2011 - 09:56pm PT
Pater- the shapes are similar to the classic Clog wired wedges but we can't quite put our finger on the source.

The smallest is 7/16" X 5/8". The finishing details are pretty unusual so somebody bought some out there.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Jun 18, 2011 - 10:05pm PT
hey there all, say....


i thought it was going to be some neat talk about rocks, as well...

:)


well, carry on...

happy supertopo eve to all...
:)
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Jun 18, 2011 - 11:28pm PT
Here is a composite of this hideous nut I have on my desk. Only tapers in one aspect, the remaining aspects equal to an aluminum bashie.

Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 18, 2011 - 11:43pm PT
The light only came on half way...LOL

Nice nut!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2011 - 08:06pm PT
Bump of unknown origin...
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2011 - 04:18pm PT
Bump on a wire...
scuffy b

climber
dissected alluvial deposits, late Pleistocene
Jul 5, 2011 - 01:22pm PT
I had a wedge like that, Peter.
Found on the ground at Gibraltar Rock.
I'm not sure of the size.
Mine was like a 6 1/2 Stopper, but at the time I found it the stoppers
were only sold in whole sizes.
Thus, it was a cherished piece until the 6 1/2 came out.
I filed a taper on the other aspect which made the endwise placement
equivalent to a #6 Stopper.
Softer and stickier alloy (like a MOAC) than a Stopper.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2011 - 01:51pm PT
So, none of these in the Karabin Museum?
nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Jul 6, 2011 - 03:38am PT
I contacted a good friend of mine this morning about these mysterious nuts.
"Shame on me" if he ever manages to identify them!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2011 - 12:11pm PT
Stephane- There is no shame in a good effort and you certainly aren't a slacker!

Since a set of these as shown is coming your way, you have a vested interest in sorting this little mystery out.

Cheers
karabin museum

Trad climber
phoenix, az
Jul 7, 2011 - 02:32am PT
Guys, I have been busy with the Lord and not busy with Supertopo.
Stephane you are beautiful on how you shame yourself for the not knowing.
Yes I have a set of these but my camera battery is dead. So I make you wait for 15 more minutes for the answer.

He He He........

Marty
karabin museum

Trad climber
phoenix, az
Jul 7, 2011 - 03:14am PT
Your answer is Rock House nuts from Korea. I purchased this set of nuts back in 1995 along with a multi-use plate, other belay plates and two sets of cams. It was difficult to land this set of nuts since I did not speak Korean and the business owner did not speak English. Somehow I got his company address but had no clue what items the company manufactured. I wrote letters but my letters were returned stating "I no not what say." So I came up with the idea of cutting out magazine photos and lined them up in such a way to communicate to the business owner to take my letter to an American restaurant and ask the restaurant owner to read the letter to him. It worked and I received bad photocopies of what he had for sale. Of course the letters were returned written in Korean and I found a Korean restaurant in town to read the return letter back to me. And yes it was required of me to purchase a lunch to get my information, but was having fun with the process. He sold many items which were common and I purchased everything that I had never seen before. The bank switched the USA monies to Korean monies and in return I received my purchase. I believe I paid for five lunches at different occasions to finalize the process.

The mystery nuts shown have a different cable set-up and maybe are an earlier set. The seller probably thought that there were two different sets of nuts judging by the color of the plastic on the wires. My 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 are yellow and the 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 is orange. Mystery solved?

Rock on! Marty


nutstory

climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
Jul 7, 2011 - 10:00am PT
Hats off Marty!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 7, 2011 - 12:48pm PT
Mystery Solved!

Thanks Marty for the info and the story!

I'll have to track down an even numbered set...LOL
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jul 7, 2011 - 12:50pm PT
They held falls? Let me see some documentation.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 7, 2011 - 12:57pm PT
A swager is a swager, I'll wager...
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jul 7, 2011 - 01:00pm PT
A fall on those swagers might take the swagger out of the faller- four hours until flight time!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 7, 2011 - 01:38pm PT
I get it! You're bored...

Have a good flight Jim!
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