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micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Apr 6, 2018 - 12:06pm PT
Just about to pull out and head north! We are taking the wife's minivan instead of my tundra so we have something cushy to sleep in and watch movies and play cards if the weather is dumping. Just pulling out of the grocery store after picking up the bare necessities.



Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Apr 6, 2018 - 04:18pm PT
A prehistoric monster in Idaho nearly takes out a kayak fisherman!

The video on the link shows more.

Steve Carroll, a.k.a. Sturgeon Steve, took a friend kayak fishing for sturgeon on the Snake River in Idaho last weekend and videotaped him nearly getting KO'd by a monster sturgeon that measured 8-feet long.
"We're going to be targeting some big sturgeon today," Carroll said in the introduction of his video. "I mean big."

He wasn't kidding.

They first spotted the big fish five miles downstream from Glenns Ferry.
Carroll told KTVB they were in the water only a few minutes before the sturgeon took Bryce Thompson's bait. The size of the sturgeon was on full display when it launched out of the water like a missile, nearly landing on Thompson.


He fought the giant fish for about an hour before they brought it to shore to measure. Then they released it, as is required.
Carroll, who has been fishing for sturgeon from kayaks for about four years, estimated the weight of the sturgeon to be more than 300 pounds
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/monster-sturgeon-nearly-lands-on-kayak-fisherman-video/ar-AAvxjcC?li=BBnb7Kz
G_Gnome

Trad climber
Cali
Apr 6, 2018 - 05:49pm PT
As for the coloration. They vary with diet, sex, habitat, genetics, and maturity. Those pesky and feisty silver rainbows in Hot Creek are that color because of being raised in concrete tanks, being young, and pellet fed. They will eventually turn darker with age, a natural diet, and their surroundings.

I had one of those really silver rainbows break me off. He was about 18 inches which would put him in the creek for 1 1/2 years, longer than he ever lived in concrete. Yet he was still that shining silver of these new fish. Maybe they will darken with age but I suspect their lineage also is part of the reason for their color.

And Hot Creek Hatchery doesn't raise diploid rainbows or browns so they came from somewhere else.
G_Gnome

Trad climber
Cali
Apr 6, 2018 - 05:52pm PT
HAVE FUN on Pyramid everyone! Don't let the rain drown you!!
tom woods

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Apr 6, 2018 - 07:39pm PT
Don't know what the silver jumpy rainbows are at Hot Creek, but there are Kamloops around, bred and raised up Bridgeport way. They are super fun to catch and somewhat of a mysterious plant by DFG. I used to run into them at Leavitt Lake, but the road has been so bad in recent years that DFG stopped planting there.

I know that kamloops have gone into Crowley in the past, but I'm not sure where they are planted there now. They are a lot of fun when you get into them.

Look them up, Kamloop rainbows, they are more silver sided and green topped than your standard stocker rainbow.
micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Apr 7, 2018 - 08:52am PT
Good morning Supertopo trout fans!!!! Live from Pyramid Lake NV!!!!

Made it to the lake in pouring rain last night but things calmed down for a brief meet and greet and a campfire sesh. WTF had us up and at em before sunrise!


Game on!!!






Caught the biggest trout of my life about 45 minutes ago. And that thing is probably a runt for around here.
Capt.

climber
some eastside hovel
Apr 7, 2018 - 09:42am PT
Micro--Is the bluetick there??
BG

Trad climber
JTree & Idyllwild
Apr 8, 2018 - 07:04am PT

I had one of those really silver rainbows break me off. He was about 18 inches which would put him in the creek for 1 1/2 years, longer than he ever lived in concrete. Yet he was still that shining silver of these new fish. Maybe they will darken with age but I suspect their lineage also is part of the reason for their color.

And Hot Creek Hatchery doesn't raise diploid rainbows or browns so they came from somewhere else.

Sounds like the Kamloops strain. When I used to fish Crowley a lot there were three strains of rainbows stocked there: Kamloops, Eagle Lake, and Coleman. The Kamloops rainbows would usually jump five or six times during the fight, and were very silvery in coloration, especially compared to the Eagle Lake strain, which were noticeably darker and greener. A big Eagle Lake rainbow usually made inpressive runs into the backing, but wouldn't leap as much.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Apr 8, 2018 - 07:59pm PT
What the creek fishin' Fresno boys lack in double haul casting distance, we make up for in aggressive ladder placement.

But it worked!

Frikkin' great weekend! With the rain, wind, cold feet and big fish we got a full value intro to "the mid." (That's what us locals call it)

We are indebted to WTF for setting us up with the knowledge and flies to land fish on our first trip and Stimbo for the company and tips. Scott and I were chatting about how everyone there was awesome to hang out with and learn from. Genuinely nice people to put up with us. THANK YOU!
Jim Clipper

climber
from: forests to tree farms
Apr 8, 2018 - 08:57pm PT
Very nice fish. It's a shame what they did to the LCT fishery, among other things.

So many people love Tahoe, it would be great to see more interest in bringing them back.

Some cool pictures below. Download is safe, from ca.gov dept of fish and wildlife website.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx%3FDocumentID%3D85816&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjK15iCqKzaAhWL6oMKHa7ICvwQFggLMAA&usg=AOvVaw2hjwjhMbgXHeAX4j4jSi1u
DaveyTree

Trad climber
Fresno
Apr 9, 2018 - 08:57am PT
Well done guys. Hope to see more pics.

As far as lighter and darker, It always seemed to me that shallow water exposed to the sun they will lighten in color and the opposite if shaded or deeper water. I used to work at a hatchery and fish will adapt to their surroundings to be a better predator.
G_Gnome

Trad climber
Cali
Apr 9, 2018 - 02:12pm PT
Bob, that sounds like these. They almost immediately start jumping, long horizontal jumps when hooked. They are pretty much steelhead bright in coloration. It will be interesting to see how these guys perform over the next year or two as they put some size and girth on.

Hot Creek does still have some sizable fish in it. I spooked about a 2 foot brown.
G_Gnome

Trad climber
Cali
Apr 9, 2018 - 03:49pm PT
Tad, the good fishing is up on the Sacramento above the lake. Nice to take you kid outside, too few parents take the time to do that nowadays.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Apr 9, 2018 - 03:53pm PT
Right on Tad, fishing with grandpa is a great experience.

Now just teach him to fly fish and take him where G_gnome said so he has memories of catching fish :)
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Apr 9, 2018 - 05:40pm PT
I'm glad to see "the Fresno boys" had a good time on their Nevada adventure & produced some big cuts.

Kudos to WTF & Stimbo for helping them out.
Stimbo

Trad climber
Crowley Lake
Apr 10, 2018 - 07:31am PT
Here are some more photos from the Pyramid Lake trip. We drove up from Crowley on Friday, with the rain getting heavier as we approached Reno. The skies were intense and ominous but the winds did not come until the following day. It rained really hard early Saturday morning and continued throughout the day, then as the front moved through, the winds came up big time with white caps, mist lifting off the water, and everybody retreating from their ladders. My son and I drove to a different section of the lake to find some leeward shoreline, and we hit pay dirt, landing six nice fish within an hour. The winds that evening were super violent, I thought our pop up camper was going to rip apart. Sunday dawned clear and glassy...

It was a great trip meeting up with friends WTF and micronut, meeting limpingcrab and a couple of WTF's buddies from guide school. It was super cool watching the "nut" and "crab" hooking into fish after fish at Pyramid, their first experiences at the lake. I think they left with big smiles. Special kudos belong to WTF who organized the get together and even tied up a couple of boxes of special Pyramid Lake flies for micronut and limpingcrab. He made sure the Fresno boys were well cared for.

We talked about fish coloration in previous posts, check out the diversity of the cutthroat colors. There are two strains of cuttys in the lake: the summits and the pilot peaks. These were the summits but the differences are remarkable. Some fish were males, some were hens, and they were all colored up for the spawn. Very cool to see the variety.

Enjoy! jim










micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Apr 10, 2018 - 11:57am PT
Great post Stimbo. The whole trip really was a blast. We left Fresno at 1pm and by Sacto we were driving in a full on proper storm.


We had decided to drive my wife's new minivan rather than roll in my burly Tundra because we figued sleeping in the comfort of the mini-van and having movie night in the rain versus trying to sleep in the open bed in a tempest was worth the ridicule we might receive upon arriving in a whiteminivan to a full on man trip. As we rolled through Donner Pass in a pouring storm with snowbanks just outside the window, I started to regret the minivan decision.

But we arrived safe and sound and found the guys sharing beers around the campfire as the storm died down.


We slept comfortably the first night but by 5:15 AM, the storm arrived in full force and WTF was pounding on our windows to get our sorry carcasses dressed and ready to do battle. We were on the water and making cast before sunrise in pitch black with storm surge upon us and rain pummeling the water.


We basically fished for several hours, ate a little bit of food, then got back on the ladders and clocked in. This was working mans fishing. No sissies need apply. Casting nonstop into raging win for hours on end makes you earn your fish. It was a total grind but the hard work paid off. I was actually the first one of our party to put a fish in the net and man it felt good.


Soon, limpingcrab was on the board with his first cutthroat and it was game on from there!

Everybody hooked up off and on for the next 8-10 hours and it was absolutely dreamy. Working hard, fighting catabatic winds and the occasional line snarl. Eventually, the rain stopped and the sun came out but it was still full on battle stations mode with the weather. These photos don't do it justice.



By late Saturday night, the winds died down and we enjoyed a fantastic dinner off the back of the minivan.


Sunday morning came early and WTF was banging on the minivan window making sure we didn't lose an ounce of fishable time. The man is an animal. He's a true inspiration when it comes to getting on the fish.


The water turned at the glass and the fish were not biting. Literally we didn't see anybody hooking up whatsoever until we Fresno boys put our minds to work and moved our ladders another 30 feet out while the incredulous locals looked on in disgust.

The extra distance was just the ticket. We both landed really really nice fish and it was a great way to put a cap on the weekend.

Thank you so much to WTF for making it all happen, for being a great host, and for the endless stoke. Thank you to Stimbo or tirelessly sharing your knowledge about fishing and for tying my set up the night before. Limpingcrab and I are still rookies, but we are stepping up into the big leagues and can't wait to fish with you guys again!


Pyramid is truly a wild and humbling landscape and it was an honor to see it in person and experience all it had to throw at us. What a treat.


labrat

Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
Apr 10, 2018 - 12:34pm PT
Nice! Thanks for posting up the photos and comments gentlemen!
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Apr 10, 2018 - 12:56pm PT
I must not be very observant because I didn't notice any of the photo bombing until looking at pics on the way home. Love it
Stimbo

Trad climber
Crowley Lake
Apr 10, 2018 - 10:03pm PT
One final image from the trip....

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