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guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Mar 1, 2018 - 12:35pm PT
Cool I’m with you...
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Mar 1, 2018 - 02:03pm PT
That rig is super easy. I’ll make one up and take a picture.
I'd really appreciate it if you could do that!

Limping... I know how you feel about Hogman...
I'm guessing that was a typo and you mean Micronut. How I feel about Hogman is: archnemesis
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Mar 1, 2018 - 03:26pm PT
Ohhh yea my bad.... micro goes with hogman🤠
I’m only on iPhone lately. It’s like looking backwards through binoculars and moving around the page...

So your nemesis?
He catches your fish! He drinks your milkshake!

WTF... thanks for a drawing. I’ll look for it.

The Chief showed me one way to Nymph and Trace at Sierra Trout Magnet in Bishop showed me another way. Both worked in the lower ORG once I figured out what the little tug was all about....

And Limping I Know you didn’t fish the Kern... you climbed. 👍👍
At the Hardman spot... did you buys have fun???
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Mar 1, 2018 - 05:55pm PT
Holy crap that bug catcher net is an awesome idea! I slack when it comes to looking at the food in the water and am trying to turn that around.

As for the rig, can you cast that thing without it becoming a mess or is it mostly for close quarters high sticking?





And Limping I Know you didn’t fish the Kern... you climbed. 👍👍
At the Hardman spot... did you guys have fun???
I belayed the hardman climbs and climbed the medium man routes. It was a blast.
Stimbo

Trad climber
Crowley Lake
Mar 1, 2018 - 06:39pm PT
Here are some photos from this afternoon of the Lower Owens. In places especially in the upper Wild Trout section, it was nuked by the fire. That said, the water clarity was good, I saw some nice fish, there was an awesome blue winged olive hatch, and there is new grass sprouting up everywhere already. I am no expert, but I think the watershed will bounce back quickly. My only concern at this point in time is erosion of the ash with this series of storms rolling through the Sierra. We will see....


micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Mar 1, 2018 - 06:49pm PT
Fantastic beta WTF. I'm working on a way to delete your last post so Limpingcrabs doesn't read it. That way when I go out with him I catch more fish.

micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Mar 1, 2018 - 06:53pm PT
Stimbo wow. Don't even know what to say other than it will be interesting and fascinating to watch that ecosystem slowly rebuild itself.

Looking forward to greener days.
Stimbo

Trad climber
Crowley Lake
Mar 2, 2018 - 08:23am PT
Do these waders make me look fat?

Funny Scott!
Stimbo

Trad climber
Crowley Lake
Mar 2, 2018 - 09:06am PT
Makes me want to see if I should learn how to do that. Stimbo posted some from the Upper O that we’re huge... but with 2 feet of snow on the ground.... I don’t know if I could handle that.
I know that Fresno never gets snow.

I highly recommend learning how to nymph, whether it be under an indicator or tight line nymphing much as WTF described. I wish we had more surface activity on the eastside streams but as a general rule of thumb, the trout like to lay low where they feel safe and can eat undisturbed from predation. Hence, you have to bring the food down to where they are lying. And to address Bob and the East Walker (casting with dries), also throw into your fly box some stimulators and damselfles. Depending on how the winter plays out, the skwalas and damselflies are a super important food source and the surface takes are aggressive if not violent.

Has anyone tried Tenkara. I am partial to my fly rod but a buddy just got one and loves it. Debating on trying one out.

I have tried Tenkara a few times, it is super fun, and it does work in its simplicity, but I have not felt the urge to buy a setup. If you are heading into the backcountry and you have to scrimp on weight and space, the Tenkara is the best option. But you are limited to how far you can cast. For streams or fishing around the margins of a lake, it does work. It is a novelty. Personally, I much prefer a fly rod and reel.
Stimbo

Trad climber
Crowley Lake
Mar 2, 2018 - 09:46am PT
One more....

ruppell

climber
Mar 2, 2018 - 10:57am PT
Stimbo

It's not just the East Side that nymphs trump dries. It's everywhere. At least 75% of a trouts diet is nymphs and larva. Many, many, many studies back this up.

I've been nymphing since I first learned to cast. I like to catch fish and can't stand waiting for a hatch. The only time I'll tie a dry on is when the hatch is so in my face that I'd be stupid not to.
Stimbo

Trad climber
Crowley Lake
Mar 2, 2018 - 12:21pm PT
t's not just the East Side that nymphs trump dries. It's everywhere. At least 75% of a trouts diet is nymphs and larva. Many, many, many studies back this up.

I've been nymphing since I first learned to cast. I like to catch fish and can't stand waiting for a hatch. The only time I'll tie a dry on is when the hatch is so in my face that I'd be stupid not to.

I could not agree more. And, I like nymphing. Granted, watching an indicator get dunked isn't as exciting as getting grabs on the surface, but I do like catching trout.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Mar 2, 2018 - 01:55pm PT
WTF & all, thanks for sharing your nymphing tips & nice trout folks. Despite nymphing for years, I was unaware of RIO tippet rings & two-tone indicator leader.

Over the years I’ve learned to fish with heavier tippet that most experts recommend. Almost all my dry fly fishing is with 5 X tippet & my daytime nymphing is with 4 X tippet, & I switch to 3 X as soon as the sun sets, or if the water is even slightly off-color. I accept in heavily-fished areas, especially with dry flies, that trout, especially Rainbows might become “leader-shy.” However, those previously caught & released Rainbows are damn shy of anything & everything, that might lead to the pain & stress of their being caught again.

I do have an unfortunate history of breaking off fish when fishing wet, on my initial hook set, which I accept is flawed technique on my part, but the stronger tippet helps there. However, I mainly use stronger tippet due to my desire not to exhaust & possibly kill trout by over-playing them. Yep! I like to horse those fish in quickly as possible, keep them in the water while I release them, & revive the big ones if they go “belly-up” on me during the process. I am always bummed when I find large dead trout along catch & release water, since I suspect most of those dead fish are a result of fishermen exhausting them during the catch & release & photograph process.

It’s wonderful to learn technique & fishing ethics from good fishermen, but it’s not wonderful to learn technique & fishing ethics from poor fishermen. I do believe those who read fly fishing magazines & delve into books on technique, tend to elevate both their technique & ethics. My 80’s & 90’s fishy reading list included these books.


Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Mar 2, 2018 - 08:18pm PT
Just testing to see if I can post to this thread. I've been trying and only the bird's one can I post to.
Great stuff though in the last few pages!

edit
hmmm that worked...
any cut and paste job won't appear though as I tried to link the article mentioned below-even typed out the addy...weird
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Mar 2, 2018 - 08:21pm PT
Read the Kenai article in the NWFF mag last. Our very own BG wrote a nice piece on FF up there. Check it out if you haven't.

Did some FF up there in the early 80's. Always wanted to go back. I'll make sure to bring my float tube if I do!
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Mar 2, 2018 - 10:57pm PT
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Fishing was slow at Pyramid Lake this week but as usual, the scenery provided an other-worldly experience. Every ten minutes as the weather changes, the color of the lake changes as does its texture. Standing on a stepladder in the water can be almost hypnotic as the sky reflected off the lake ebbs and flows with the gentle rolling and scuff of the water. The fish in the first picture squirmed out of my hands and flopped about in my face. I shyt you not, the little bastard bit me on the nose! I chummed the water with blood droplets for about a half hour after this pic. Nevertheless, I released the sharp toothed trickster back to the lake.
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Mar 2, 2018 - 10:58pm PT
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Mar 2, 2018 - 10:59pm PT
chainsaw

Trad climber
CA
Mar 2, 2018 - 11:43pm PT
Regarding the fire at lower Owens, fire is totally natural and necessary down there. Without it the crap grows super thick and actually drinks all the water leaving too little water for fish in the late season. Last time that area burned to completion I fished it four days later and caught many nice browns. Frankly, I was hoping it would burn, having visited in December. The briars and such were so thick that access was almost zero. Now that it burned, it will be good fishing for a while. The real fish killer on the Owens is LAWP. Those asswholes raised the water about twelve feet overnight just before my trip down there. I presume it was a water "delivery" of some kind. All the fish were washed away and noone in the valley caught anything except at Pleasants Valley lake where fish and game had dumped a truckload of mostly half dead planters.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Mar 4, 2018 - 09:08am PT
Thanks for the good advice... I will try it.
The drawing makes sense.... and no casting! Every time I have rigged up for nymphs- I cast and get super tangled. DUH😞
Learn something new.

The Owens looks torched, but it will grow back in due time.
Thanks for the pictures.


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