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limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Dec 17, 2016 - 10:40pm PT
Holy crap Donini! I think that might be a dinosaur.

Guy, haven't tried dries on the lower Kings yet but some fish were jumping and one hit my brother's indicator last time. I'm still learning this lowland tailwater stuff so I'm no expert down there.

My only experience fishing the Kern has been at points near or far upstream of Forks of the Kern (near the Needles) and it was outstanding! I don't know about places below Lake Isabella but I wouldn't be surprised if there were a bunch of random fish in there to compete with. Maybe the Prickly Sculpin or Threespine Stickback could kill a trout if they live there and went down wrong? Of course I've caught some sunfish and bluegill that would probably do damage if swallowed, maybe they could survive in the lower reaches of the Kern. Basically, I don't know, but I like talking about fish so I just keep typing!

PS. Above Pine Flat on the Kings can be decent in the late winter/early spring before the runoff starts to raise the river.

donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 18, 2016 - 07:15am PT
When we get a big brown in Patagonia we make gravlix. Fillet the fish and heavily coat each fillet with an equal mixture of sugar and salt. Put in the refridgerator for 12 plus hours then remove and rinse thoroughly. The last step is to put herbs like dill and basil on the fillets and refidgerate for another 6 hours or so...yummmm!
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Dec 18, 2016 - 10:00am PT
Stimbo.... PM sent. let me know if it went through...

Donini ....... Catch and fillet... what method are you guys using to get those trout? From a lake or monsters from the stream??? Looks downright awesome. I remember looking at some Bishop history book and back around 1918 they would get Browns like that from lower Bishop creek! I guess with no population pressure they grow big... water hogs.

limping... is the Kings open all year for Catch and Release up stream from Pine Flat?? And re the Kern... Gome has told me you must go up-stream from the forks of the Kern to get good fishing... it figures, the harder the walk, the longer the walk the better the fishing gets..... Just like climbing. So maybe hike in from Cottonwood, to the Kern and head down river.

thanks all
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Dec 18, 2016 - 01:43pm PT
limping... is the Kings open all year for Catch and Release up stream from Pine Flat?? And re the Kern... Gome has told me you must go up-stream from the forks of the Kern to get good fishing... it figures, the harder the walk, the longer the walk the better the fishing gets..... Just like climbing. So maybe hike in from Cottonwood, to the Kern and head down river.

Yes for the Kings, no stocking up there, it's one of those heritage trout program waters and open year round.

A trip like that down the Kern is high on my list. Supposedly fall is the best up there.

Edit: if you've never browsed Steven Ojai's fly fishing the Sierra website you definitely should. I've learned a ton from there. http://stevenojai.tripod.com/
Stimbo

Trad climber
Crowley Lake
Dec 18, 2016 - 08:24pm PT
Stimbo.... PM sent. let me know if it went through...

Guy -- I just sent you a PM, I haven't come across anything from you yet.

jim
G_Gnome

Trad climber
Cali
Dec 19, 2016 - 01:19pm PT
Guy, just park at the Johnsondale bridge and then walk upstream for 30 minutes then start fishing up.
Below the lake is mostly small mouth bass territory.

The Merced can be really good below the park in winter too. Not a lot of people fish the gorge section.

Have you watched the Orvis videos? They are quite good for beginners.
http://howtoflyfish.orvis.com/video-lessons

The was one thing that I would stress to all beginners is the need to get a long float and to learn to reach cast to achieve that.
G_Gnome

Trad climber
Cali
Dec 27, 2016 - 01:15pm PT
The DUDE! Send me an email at jan underscore mcc at live dot com.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Dec 27, 2016 - 01:24pm PT
The eagle has landed......

perswig

climber
Dec 27, 2016 - 05:07pm PT
Thermos and wader camo mis-match fail. Total noob move. (heh, heh)

Giving my 6 y/o pseudo-nephew a fly setup at this wkend's delayed xmas. Kid's already got a longer attention span and better hand-eye than most of his cousins. Pretty excited.

Dale

ETA: I agree, that Orvis library is worthy (thanks, G_Gnome!) and my plan now is to sit down with the rugrat and watch some of them together, before tying on an indicator and heading outside. Little guy is pretty focused, so I suspect the vids about stream presentation, drift and whatnot will be fodder between skiing and indoor soccer while we both wait for ice-out.

Esco, I've not ever picked up a practice rig, but we may both give it a go this winter. It seems similar to learning to juggle with gauzy fabric squares, slows things down to let you get the feel for the cadence. I'm bookmarking the Joan vid for tonight - snow's on the way and I've got two more sheets of metal roofing to install and then potentially digging up the septic line and lift pump (again, dammit).
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Dec 28, 2016 - 08:33am PT
Stimbo... msg on Taco is a no-go.... try.. GuyKeesee AT Gmail.com ...

would like to set some things up.


Dale .... Click on the Orvis Link G__Gome posted above... one of them is how to help very young anglers figure out FF. I found all of those Videos very helpful... ESP the casting.

Happy new Year to all.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Dec 28, 2016 - 09:27am PT
Thermos and wader camo mis-match fail. Total noob move. (heh, heh)

I take great pride in showing up to a run with Carhartt tatters and out-fishing the hipster wearing his Simms Guide Waders. lol

Guyman, MEND, MEND, MEND. That is your learning objectives for the summer!!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Dec 28, 2016 - 09:30am PT
Heading down to my place in Patagonia on Saturday. There is recent documentation of a trout under 16 inches but I've never seen one.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Dec 28, 2016 - 09:42am PT
Giving my 6 y/o pseudo-nephew a fly setup at this wkend's delayed xmas. Kid's already got a longer attention span and better hand-eye than most of his cousins. Pretty excited.

Perswig,

Have you ever tired putting one of the practice rods in their hands? Like the Echo or I think Joan Wulff marketed one at one point.

I actually find it useful to pick one up every so often when I'm bored in the barn.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Dec 28, 2016 - 09:43am PT
Speaking of Joan Wulff, if you haven't watched this, you're missing out on a sneak peak at one of the best.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Dec 31, 2016 - 12:17pm PT
Happy New Year's Eve Day trout hunters. The lower Kings River has been going off for the past few days. Finally made my way out there. Take a look at this.


Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water.

Small size 18 nymphs....
Hare's ears and beadhead olives
briham89

Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
Dec 31, 2016 - 03:53pm PT
Hey Micronut, nice fish!!!! What section of the lower Kings have you been fishing? I haven't been out there yet. But your pictures are making me think I need to take a trip. Cool that you can fish there year round.
ruppell

climber
Jan 2, 2017 - 12:12pm PT
Just a PSA to all you guys.

Buy your 2017 license. lol

I'm giving everyone this PSA because in 2014 I completely forgot about it. I'd been fishing at least 2 times a week up at Pleasant Valley. Sometime in early February I see the warden driving up the road. He stops and asks me to come up the bank. Sure man no worries. Just as I'm getting close to the truck it hits me. I don't have my 2014 license. He asks the usual how's the fishing comments and then asks to see my license. I smile and hand him my 2013. Then I proceed fill him in on the fact that I'm a complete idiot. He sees I have no fish and he's also seen me around a bunch. He let's me off with the promise that I'll head straight Reagans and buy my 2014 license. I got lucky.
BG

Trad climber
JTree & Idyllwild
Jan 2, 2017 - 07:10pm PT
Beautiful fish! Can't wait to get back to Pyramid Lake- got a trip scheduled for March.
ruppell

climber
Jan 2, 2017 - 07:21pm PT
WTF

I'm a fisherman like I'm a climber. I do it all. In climbing I boulder, sport, and trad climb. In fishing I use fly, spinning and baitcasting gear. When I want to have a relaxing day I grab the flyrod. There's just something about the casting rhythm that's very calming. When I want to catch fish and especially big trout I grab the mini jig rod. They work better than any streamer I've ever used.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jan 2, 2017 - 07:26pm PT
WTF! Congrats on keeping on with that "tossing-lead" exercise. I feel your pain.

Congrats on changing to a spin rod & producing that nice cut.

In my early 20's, most of my high mountain lake fishing was with a short spin-rod & reel, but I usually used a fly & bobber.

I do have a fond memory of a large Idaho cutthroat grabbing a 1" diameter red & white bobber twice & taking it deep for 30 seconds, or so, before it bobbed back to the surface.

The 3rd time he took the dry fly, that was 2' from the bobber.

I removed him & his slightly smarter pal, who only took the bobber once, from the stupid Cut gene-pool.



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