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F10

Trad climber
e350 / Bishop
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 18, 2011 - 10:21pm PT

Reports of a fire near Big Pine have closed Highway 395 south of Big Pine and north of Indepenence.
pyrosis

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Mar 18, 2011 - 10:42pm PT
Big Pine evacuated...
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Mar 18, 2011 - 10:42pm PT
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Brush-Fire-Closes-SoCals-Road-to-Mammoth-118278969.html

Brush Fire Closes SoCal's Road to Mammoth
Updated 7:13 PM PDT, Fri, Mar 18, 2011

Highway 395 was closed by authorities Friday southbound from Bishop, and northbound from Independence due to a massive fast burning brush fire in the Big Pine area.

Mandatory emergency evacuations were ordered for everyone west of Main Street in Big Pine. Other evacuations included the areas known as Night Manor, Rolling Green and Terrace areas of Big Pine

"A staging area for evacuees has been set up at Big Pine High School, and Bishop Fair Grounds. Code Red Emergency Notification announcements have been made and will continue to be updated as new information is received by Sheriff’s Dispatch," according to an e-mail from the Inyo County Sheriff's Department.

Highway 395 (also known as U.S. route 395) is a U.S. is the main road Southern Californian's use to get to world-famous Mammoth Mountain Ski Area.
pyrosis

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Mar 18, 2011 - 10:59pm PT
Numerous structures lost.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 18, 2011 - 11:04pm PT
That explains why i wasn't run off 395 by the usual friday evening onslaught of frantic so. cal. skiers..?
pyrosis

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Mar 18, 2011 - 11:13pm PT
24 homes and a trailer park so far...
springwoman

Boulder climber
Bishop, CA
Mar 18, 2011 - 11:56pm PT
Hi guys - where are you getting your info about structures and the extent of the fire? I have waaay too many friends there (evacuated) and your posts have more info than anything else I can find...?

Thanks
QITNL

climber
Mar 19, 2011 - 12:12am PT
http://cdfdata.fire.ca.gov/incidents/incidents_details_info?incident_id=482
http://www.wildlandfire.com/hotlist/showthread.php?t=17218
http://calfire.blogspot.com/2011/03/ca-bdu-center-ic-wildfire-300-acres.html
pyrosis

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Mar 19, 2011 - 12:22am PT
Good to hear, Cragman.

I've seen some scary pics on facebook, of large flames on the north side of town. I have been getting my info word of mouth from those who have been listening to the scanner. Apparently the Roosevelt tree burned down as well. The fire would have seemed to have passed through town by now.
Dogfish

Trad climber
Squid Valley
Mar 19, 2011 - 12:30am PT
And I-80 closed East and West bound due to snow and accidents.
No skiing for anyone.
http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/display.php?page=i80
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Mar 19, 2011 - 12:55am PT
Are fires of this kind frequent in the area, at this time (or any time) of the year?
QITNL

climber
Mar 19, 2011 - 01:01am PT
Take a load off, Cragman, you'll probably have another 20 hour day tomorrow. Best luck to everyone out there.
bergbryce

Mountain climber
Oakland
Mar 19, 2011 - 02:44am PT
50 is open although we ain't moving in Kyburz at the moment. I think they might be using pilot vehicles over the pass or something.
Trying to understand why as it is not snowing, temp is > 32 and the highway is basically clear.

Hope things around Lone Pine improve.
F10

Trad climber
e350 / Bishop
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2011 - 09:57am PT
Looks like 395 is open, hope Big Pine fared well last night. Winds are out of the north now, that should help.
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Mar 19, 2011 - 11:48am PT
are such wildfires unusual in the near-desert of the land of little rain?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Mar 19, 2011 - 11:56am PT
not really. The "east side" suffers from subsidence winds- fires here often burn down hill as fast as up hill. Low lying areas get drafted dry by freezing conditions and fuel moisture's can be surprisingly low during those times.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Mar 19, 2011 - 12:28pm PT
Any word from this morning?

http://www.youtube.com/embed/SKOxaCGs9Io
Greg Barnes

climber
Mar 19, 2011 - 12:38pm PT
Conditions: Yesterday the fire grew rapidly as it was fanned by extremely strong winds, but last night and this morning the winds have diminished and the area has received light rain.
Highway 395 is back open in both directions.

That's from:

http://cdfdata.fire.ca.gov/incidents/incidents_details_info?incident_id=482
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Mar 19, 2011 - 01:10pm PT
That is sobering.
I too thought a Big Pine fire report in this weather would be a joke.
Any word on the fate of the cattle and horses?

Every time I've been on that road this time of year it's been full on rain or snow. I clearly have a limited perspective.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 19, 2011 - 01:23pm PT
It was blowing hard on the east side yesterday and rumor has it 65 degrees in big pine...Good conditions for a fire...The spring time winds get ratcheted up because of wide temperature variances and winter storms clashing with warm desert air.......Crowley Lake can get 100 mph winds that will strip roofs , blow big rigs over , and fray nerves..
spot

Boulder climber
Atascadero,Ca
Mar 19, 2011 - 03:22pm PT
Shot from center of BIg Pine last night - don't know conditions today...

link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpgErn6ct9A
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Mar 19, 2011 - 03:24pm PT
boy does that bring back some memories^^^ moma never told ya there would be days like those...
Batrock

Trad climber
Burbank
Mar 19, 2011 - 10:14pm PT
I just drove through Big Pine a few hours ago and had no idea of the destruction.
I had been in Mammoth the night befoe and there was no word of it but then again
clientele were more worried about where their next drink was coming from and not about local events that might have a great impact on local lives. I stopped by the hatchery to let the kids terrorize the fish and got the lowdown from one of the volunteers at the hatchery. I will be keeping the residents who lost their homes in my thoughts and prayers.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 19, 2011 - 10:24pm PT
The Roosevelt tree burned...? Very sad...that was a beautiful landmark and living time capsule....A large cedar at the junction of 395 and westgard pass...rj
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 19, 2011 - 11:14pm PT
Sequoia Redwood..sadder yet...any salvageable lumber left...? rj
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 19, 2011 - 11:15pm PT
Interesting note aside...Redwoods were abundant on the eastside until the climate dried out..rj
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
Mar 19, 2011 - 11:32pm PT
The Roosevelt tree was planted in 1913. From what I understand, there are no groves of Sequoias on the east side. On the west side Mariposa grove starts at about 5800 feet and goes to 6800 feet.
F10

Trad climber
e350 / Bishop
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2011 - 12:02am PT
The Roosevelt tree was still standing unscathed this morning when I drove through Big Pine
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 20, 2011 - 12:04am PT
Thanks for the good news moosie....RJ
Oxymoron

Big Wall climber
total Disarray
Mar 20, 2011 - 09:47am PT
Sequoias & Redwoods are DIFFERENT trees.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Mar 20, 2011 - 11:55am PT
better go back to forestry 101, redwood-=seguoia
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Mar 20, 2011 - 11:58am PT


Related but not the same.

Maybe sempervirens will weigh in.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Mar 20, 2011 - 12:16pm PT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequoiadendron


In my forest circus days, we planted several small locations with sequoias -mostly springs and were doing well, when,years later, an IDIOT at the carson ranger district decided she would go find these plants and remove them as she called them invasive....Shes a "forestry graduate", that didnt/doesnt know her A hole from a gopher hole.. Redwoods supposedly grew mostly on the west side, but there are traces of ancient redwoods on the east side here and there.
sempervirens

climber
Mar 20, 2011 - 03:08pm PT
Hi Jaybro, Yeah, they are in the same family, the Cupressaceae or Cypress Family. They used to be in the Taxodiaceae but have been "moved", probably due to some botanist nerd's genetic study of their ancestry. But they are each in a different genus.

They can be both called redwood, and often are, but it'd be "more correct" to call the Sequouia sempervirens the redwood; and the Sequoiadendron giganteum the giant sequoia. That really gets at the heart of the issue of using scientific names (aka botanical names or "Latin names") vs. common names. Common names vary, of course, and confuse. For example, Poplar are sometimes called cottonwood. But cottonwood is only one type of poplar, aspens are sometimes called poplar 'cause they're also in the same genus, Populus. "Poison hemlock" is not even in the same family as the Hemlock tree. So those long two-word scientific names are used to avoid confusion. They are the same all around the world.

Probably more than anyone wanted to hear. FWIW. I am a botanist, but not a botany nerd as I am not quite smart enough or dedicated enough to earn that title.

Link below to the Jepson Manual of California Plants, the accepted authority of plant names in the state.

http://ucjeps.berkeley.edu/tjm2/review/treatments/cupressaceae_all.html
Oxymoron

Big Wall climber
total Disarray
Mar 20, 2011 - 03:11pm PT
Vindicated. Up yours, Ron A.

How about the fire? Remember that?
sempervirens

climber
Mar 20, 2011 - 03:42pm PT
Also, about the "invasive" sequoias... I could see how that ranger might have considered them non-native to the area 'cause they weren't growing there naturally. At one time they did, but if they were planted now (or some 20 years agos) when they were'nt already there on their own, well then they'd be non-native. Still there's room for a little debate.

But they're not invasive. Invasive means they can proliferate and take over the habitat of native plants and therefore crowd out the desirable natives. That'd be like star thistle in california, or knapweed in Montana, or tall white top in the Carson City, NV area. It's possible but not too likely for the giant sequoia (or the redwood for that matter) to crowd out natives on the east side of the sierra.

I too originally checked into this thread to see about the fire along 395.
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Mar 20, 2011 - 03:57pm PT
Dori and Martin didn't lose the house but lost garden, chicken coop, shop, and tools including canning stuff. It was their livelihood.

Aerili

climber
Reno, NV
Mar 20, 2011 - 04:04pm PT
It was blowing hard on the east side yesterday and rumor has it 65 degrees in big pine
I was in Bishop for a few days and it didn't feel anything close to 65 degrees!! Weather reports for Lone Pine were identical to Bishop, so I would have assumed Big Pine was similar. The wind never seemed to abate much, either.

The day my partner and I went down this week we thought maybe the wind was causing the poor visibility in the area, but a guy at the Mountain Light gallery told us that big dust/sandstorms in China were the cause: the dust had been lifted into the jet stream and then deposited right over the Eastside. I am sure the fire was not helping. We could smell it Friday night in camp.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Mar 20, 2011 - 05:35pm PT
oxy,say what?? hehe


ANd Yes Sempir, those poor little redwoods were labeled "invasive" plantngs, luckily, she never knew about the englemans spruce we planted..;-) We did some digs near virginia city to examine old sugar pine stumps that were totally cleared for the minning boom.All that area was once jeffrey and sugar pine. THe chinese brought over pinion pine and it took off like white top...

and on the original note, my condolences to all that lost in the fire..Ive expirienced those first hand, and know the pain...
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