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Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 15, 2011 - 10:19am PT
I think more than a few climbers could relate to this.

Bluebird
there's a bluebird in my heart that
wants to get out
but I'm too tough for him,
I say, stay in there, I'm not going
to let anybody see
you.
there's a bluebird in my heart that
wants to get out
but I pour whiskey on him and inhale
cigarette smoke
and the whores and the bartenders
and the grocery clerks
never know that
he's
in there.

there's a bluebird in my heart that
wants to get out
but I'm too tough for him,
I say,
stay down, do you want to mess
me up?
you want to screw up the
works?
you want to blow my book sales in
Europe?
there's a bluebird in my heart that
wants to get out
but I'm too clever, I only let him out
at night sometimes
when everybody's asleep.
I say, I know that you're there,
so don't be
sad.
then I put him back,
but he's singing a little
in there, I haven't quite let him
die
and we sleep together like
that
with our
secret pact
and it's nice enough to
make a man
weep, but I don't
weep, do
you?
MisterE

Social climber
MEEP MEEP
Feb 15, 2011 - 10:29am PT
“There is a time to stop reading, there is a time to STOP trying to WRITE, there is a time to kick the whole bloated sensation of ART out on its whore-ass.”





Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Feb 15, 2011 - 10:49am PT
great movie on bukowski, barfly. he published regularly in the late, great journal, poetry LA, which bellyflopped when the publisher had to tend to her aging husband.
MisterE

Social climber
MEEP MEEP
Feb 15, 2011 - 11:43am PT
Anti-establishment, non-pc bump


The History Of One Tough Motherf*#ker:


he came to the door one night wet thin beaten and
terrorized
a white cross-eyed tailless cat
I took him in and fed him and he stayed
grew to trust me until a friend drove up the driveway
and ran him over
I took what was left to a vet who said,"not much
chance...give him these pills...his backbone
is crushed, but is was crushed before and somehow
mended, if he lives he'll never walk, look at
these x-rays, he's been shot, look here, the pellets
are still there...also, he once had a tail, somebody
cut it off..."
I took the cat back, it was a hot summer, one of the
hottest in decades, I put him on the bathroom
floor, gave him water and pills, he wouldn't eat, he
wouldn't touch the water, I dipped my finger into it
and wet his mouth and I talked to him, I didn't go any-
where, I put in a lot of bathroom time and talked to
him and gently touched him and he looked back at
me with those pale blue crossed eyes and as the days went
by he made his first move
dragging himself forward by his front legs
(the rear ones wouldn't work)
he made it to the litter box
crawled over and in,
it was like the trumpet of possible victory
blowing in that bathroom and into the city, I
related to that cat-I'd had it bad, not that
bad but bad enough
one morning he got up, stood up, fell back down and
just looked at me.
"you can make it," I said to him.
he kept trying, getting up falling down, finally
he walked a few steps, he was like a drunk, the
rear legs just didn't want to do it and he fell again, rested,
then got up.
you know the rest: now he's better than ever, cross-eyed
almost toothless, but the grace is back, and that look in
his eyes never left...
and now sometimes I'm interviewed, they want to hear about
life and literature and I get drunk and hold up my cross-eyed,
shot, runover de-tailed cat and I say,"look, look
at this!"
but they don't understand, they say something like,"you
say you've been influenced by Celine?"
"no," I hold the cat up,"by what happens, by
things like this, by this, by this!"
I shake the cat, hold him up in
the smoky and drunken light, he's relaxed he knows...
it's then that the interviews end
although I am proud sometimes when I see the pictures
later and there I am and there is the cat and we are photo-
graphed together.
he too knows it's bullshit but that somehow it all helps
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Feb 15, 2011 - 11:53am PT
our going-on-17-year-old cat had a stroke about three years ago. she couldn't pull her butt onto a chair. a goner, i thought. we all went to the vet. she had been the junior parent, helping raise two kids. i thought she'd have to go down.

vetsky said that cats bounce back from strokes. let her be for a couple weeks. sure enough.

she's had three more strokes since then, her function a bit reduced each time. it's an education to watch her compensate for it. the grace keeps coming back. now she has trouble retracting her claws, but she still faces the back yard and the front yard in the day and the dark, never mind the tough cats from the neighborhood who might be out there. i can grow old now. i've had someone show me how.
wacky

Social climber
Schlongmont, CO
Feb 15, 2011 - 12:12pm PT
"Lay down
Lay down like an animal and wait"


IMHO, one of the BEST poets. I mean, who writes about working in the post office, betting on horses, getting drunk and screwing crazy women?

His short stories were not as good as his poems...

Seems like they made a movie out of his short story FACTOTUM, starring Matt Dillon not too long ago. Born Into This was also quite good for a documentary.
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Feb 15, 2011 - 12:49pm PT
Pate, great quote and pic!

In the "science" world I often feel that a person that hides behind big words to explain a concept and can't explain it without them, probably doesn't understand the concept that well himself.
d-know

Trad climber
electric lady land
Feb 15, 2011 - 01:04pm PT
a dog faced
womanizing
hopeless drunkard
gambling
acute observer
of humanity.

had obvious
disdain
for the world
and it's
inhabitants.
couldn't stop
writing
about them.

brutal honesty
and a brute.
user of words
and prudent
word user.
i think
i'll go have
a ham on rye.
J. Werlin

Social climber
Cedaredge, CO
Feb 15, 2011 - 01:23pm PT
Looking around the office shelves--must have at least twenty Bukowski books.

The bluebird poem is powerful one for sure. Much of Buke's beauty was the unpretentious way he humorously revealed his wounded, gentler interior.

Born Into This is a great documentary and great entertainment. Watched it many times. Don't miss the "Making of" in special features, a great story in itself. For Buke-heads the Charles Bukowski Tapes are well worth a watch.

Hollywood and Post Office might be my favorite of his novels.

Hot Water Music for shorts.

His body of work, read as a whole and chronologically is an amazing journey of evolving psychology and spirituality. His poetry near the end of his life--in and out of the hospital, battling leukemia--is pretty heady stuff.

One of the greatest American authors of all time, and one of very few writers of poetry that is enjoyable for me.

RIP Henry Chinaski.


Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Feb 15, 2011 - 01:58pm PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvvQIk-FGtM
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Feb 15, 2011 - 03:36pm PT
Hank is guy that turned me onto writers like Jeffers and Hamsun. I always found his literary references spot on. I've had probably fifty of his books at one time. Don't lend them out, you may never see them again. YouTube has some cool stuff of his. Cheers to the best American writer of his times.
billiegoat

Big Wall climber
East Bay, CA
Feb 15, 2011 - 11:04pm PT
My nighttime ritual used to be reading "The Blackbirds Are Rough Today", is my favorite.

edejom

Boulder climber
Butte, America
Feb 15, 2011 - 11:40pm PT
"Post Office" (1971)--a remarkable read into the novel of reality...
Prod

Trad climber
Feb 15, 2011 - 11:58pm PT
Hey Mr E.

I was going to post the same poem.

My all time FAV!!!! and I don't like cats.

Cheers,


Prod.
LuckyPink

climber
the last bivy
Feb 16, 2011 - 12:23am PT
"We're all going to die, all of us, what a circus! That alone should make us love each other but it doesn't. We are terrorized and flattened by trivialities, we are eaten up by nothing. "
— Charles Bukowski
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Feb 16, 2011 - 12:32am PT
I always liked William S. Burroughs in Drugstore Cowboy.

Wayno, you like Knut Hamsun? Unusual. We must talk.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Feb 16, 2011 - 01:01am PT
Hunger is all I've read of his
Gabe

climber
Feb 16, 2011 - 02:11am PT
My favorite is a poem called "$$$$$$" from "Love is a dog from hell". It is priceless comentary on freedom and the workforce. It reminds me of us.
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Feb 16, 2011 - 02:39am PT
Anders, I've read at about eight of his novels and even the "apologetic" work he did regarding the experiences with the Nazis and the post-war Norway. Great stuff. We can talk.
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Feb 16, 2011 - 02:48am PT
Back to Buk. One of my personal favorites is a short story from "South of no North" called, 900 Pounds. Truly funny, in that sick Bukowski way.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Feb 16, 2011 - 03:13am PT
Born Into This is great, as is Barfly, and I would also recommend Factotum.

So deeply insightful sometimes, but I really loved the boozy irreverence too:

"Sex is kicking death in the ass while singing."

"Nothing is worse than to finish a good sh#t, then reach over and find the toilet paper container empty. Even the most horrible human being on earth deserves to wipe his ass."

"Great art is horsesh#t, buy tacos."
scott baxter

Gym climber
sedona, arizona
Feb 16, 2011 - 05:45pm PT
comeback



coming up out of the tar and gloom
and untold obstacles, rising up again like some freaky
Lazarus,
you are amazed at the strength of your
luck.
somewhere, somehow you got an extra
dose of durability.
hell, accept it.
you do. you do.
you look in the bathroom
mirror
at an idiot's smile.
you know the luck.
some go down and never come up.
something is being kind to you.
you turn from the mirror and walk back into the
world.
you find a chair, sit down, light a cigar.
back from a thousand wars
you look out from an open door into the
night.
Sibelius plays on your radio.
nothing has been destroyed.
you blow smoke into the black night,
rub a finger behind your left
ear.
baby, right now, you've got it
all.

Charles Bukowski
Shouldah

climber
Feb 16, 2011 - 05:56pm PT
"as the spirit wanes, the form appears"
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Feb 16, 2011 - 07:27pm PT
ham on rye. it reads like the Book of Job set in underclass LA, or the tribulations of Siddartha on his quest for enlightenment, if he had been an under-priveledged american. Great read
Rudder

Trad climber
Long Beach, CA
Feb 16, 2011 - 11:14pm PT
love is morning fog, it's just there a little while, and then it burns away. Love is a fog that burns with the first daylight of reality.
bobinc

Trad climber
Portland, Or
Feb 17, 2011 - 10:40am PT
I don't know how many bottles of beer
I have consumed while waiting for things
to get better.
I don't know how much wine and whiskey
and beer
mostly beer
I have consumed after splits with women--
waiting for the phone to ring
waiting for the sound of footsteps
and the phone never rings
until much later
and the footsteps never arrive
until much later.
when my stomach is coming up
out of my mouth
they arrive as fresh as spring flower:
"what the hell have you done to yourself?
it will be 3 days before you can fu** me!"

the female is durable
she lives seven and one half years longer
than the male, and she drinks very little beer
because she knows it's bad for the
figure.

while we are going mad
they are out
dancing and laughing
with horny cowboys

well, there's beer
sacks and sacks of empty beer bottles
and when you pick one up
the bottles fall through the wet bottom
of the paper sack
rolling
clanking
spilling grey wet ash
and stale beer,
or the sacks fall over at 4 a.m.
in the morning
making the only sound in your life.

beer
rivers and seas of beer
beer beer beer
the radio singing love songs
as the phone remains silent
and the walls stand
straight up and down
and beer is all there is.
Rockin' Gal

Trad climber
Boulder
Feb 17, 2011 - 02:23pm PT
Love this thread. Keep em comin.
bobinc

Trad climber
Portland, Or
Feb 17, 2011 - 02:48pm PT
"That's the problem with drinking, I thought as I poured myself a drink. If something bad happens you drink in an attempt to forget; if something good happens you drink in order to celebrate; and if nothing happens you drink to make something happen."

—Women, 1978

Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Feb 17, 2011 - 03:05pm PT
ANTS CRAWL MY DRUNKEN ARMS

O ants crawl my drunken arms
and they let Van Gogh sit in a cornfield
and take Life out of the world with a
shotgun.
ants crawl my drunken arms
and they set Rimbaud
to running guns and looking under rocks
for gold,
O ants crawl my drunken arms,
they put Pound in a nuthouse
and made Crane jump into the sea
in his pajamas'
ants, ants crawl my drunken arms
as our schoolboys scream for Willie Mays
instead of Bach,
ants crawl my drunken arms
through the drink I reach
for surfboards or sinks, for sunflowers
and the typewriter falls like a heart-attack
from the table
or a dead Sunday bull,
and the ants crawl into my mouth
and down my throat,
I wash them down with wine
and pull up the shades
and they are on the screen
and on the streets
climbing church towers
and into tire casings
looking for something else
to eat.

C. Bukowski
Dick_Lugar

Trad climber
Indiana (the other Mideast)
Feb 17, 2011 - 04:25pm PT
Bukowski is great, especially if you yourself are depressed and think you're a loser and not going anywhere in life, reading his stuff and bio makes you say,

"Hey, at least I'm not as fuked up as Bukowski!"
scott baxter

Gym climber
sedona, arizona
Feb 17, 2011 - 09:52pm PT
Some people
never
go crazy.

What truly
horrible
lives they
must lead.

Charles Bukowski
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 20, 2014 - 04:10am PT
Bump it.

Why not?

It's right there staring at you.
Willoughby

Social climber
Truckee, CA
Apr 20, 2014 - 07:20am PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Apr 20, 2014 - 09:41am PT
Must . Find . Bukowski . Book .
kaholatingtong

Trad climber
Nevada City
Apr 20, 2014 - 10:05am PT
What a unique artist, and what re-read value his works seem to have. This thread is inspiring me to seek out something of his I have yet to read, cheers all.
J. Werlin

Social climber
Cedaredge, CO
Apr 20, 2014 - 10:29am PT
Perhaps some climbers relate to Bukowski because he was a dirtbag of the literary.

Bukowski's advice for depression:

[Click to View YouTube Video]
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Apr 20, 2014 - 10:40am PT
Must . Find . Bukowski . Book .

Get Ham on Rye or Post Office
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Apr 20, 2014 - 12:45pm PT
Factotum.
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Apr 20, 2014 - 12:59pm PT
^^ Also excellent.

One of my favorite writers of all time. Great to read aloud on road trips!
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 20, 2014 - 12:59pm PT
“there is a loneliness in this world so great
that you can see it in the slow movement of
the hands of a clock.

people so tired
mutilated
either by love or no love.

people just are not good to each other
one on one.

the rich are not good to the rich
the poor are not good to the poor.

we are afraid.

our educational system tells us
that we can all be
big-ass winners.

it hasn't told us
about the gutters
or the suicides.

or the terror of one person
aching in one place
alone

untouched
unspoken to

watering a plant.”
― Charles Bukowski, Love is a Dog from Hell
Marsupial Rat

Trad climber
Australia
Apr 20, 2014 - 06:13pm PT
My credo:

"How the f*#k could anyone enjoy being woken by an alarm clock at 6.30 in the morning, leap out of bed, dress, eat, piss, sh#t, brush teeth and fight traffic to go to a place where you make money for someone else and then be asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?" CB
Tonu

Social climber
gastro valley
Nov 21, 2018 - 05:59am PT
norwegian, here.
thought i'd drop by to for a share.

in a few past posts, my community here mentioned
that my writing style vaguely reflected the
style of Charles Bukowski.

i've never read his work. yesterday after
lying twitching on the library lawn in the afternoon sun,
i awoke and wandered in to the library.

with bukowski on my mind.
i checked out his, "tales of a dirty old man,"

and that night as i lay in bed next to my
barely-wife, i interrupted her gaze and asked,

"you ever read this guy." and i held up my book.

she smiled for the first time in days, and
then issued light laughter.

"what?" i implored.

she goes, "my aunt's last name is Bukowski. she married charles' nephew."

so no sh#t, i'm related to Charles. we used to share a first name, but i recently changed my name from charles to dutch.

f*#ki f i'm not on a good pulse
Oldfattradguy2

Trad climber
Here and there
Nov 26, 2018 - 05:40pm PT
The Tom Russell CD Hotwalker is a must for any fan
d-know

Trad climber
electric lady land
Nov 26, 2018 - 06:56pm PT
Bluebird.
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Nov 26, 2018 - 09:28pm PT
“I think I need a drink.'
'Almost everybody does only they don't know it.”
― Charles Bukowski, Women
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