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Texplorer
Trad climber
Reno
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 1, 2011 - 08:52pm PT
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Moving to Sac next week and wanted to get the ST take on living there. Looks like pipeworks is downtown but I have heard traffic can be tough. I am working out near Mather AFB. Any recommendations on where to live, the gyms in the area, and access to climbing would be appreciated.
Also, seriously looking for a place to live if anyone knows climbers with a spare room to rent.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Next door to Dingus.
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squatch
Boulder climber
santa cruz, CA
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don't do it.
sorry
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Texplorer
Trad climber
Reno
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2011 - 09:03pm PT
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Unfortunately in this economy I didn't have too many choices. Downtown Phoenix, Billings, or Sac. I'm just glad to have a landed a job.
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
Oakland
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Congrats on the job.
You could do a lot worse. Tahoe is about 2 hours away and there is lots of climbing there. Yosemite isn't all that far away either. Several smaller areas sprinkled around Sac too.
I have a climbing partner who grew up near Billings. He tells stories of climbing mud bluffs like they were rock when they were kids. You made the right choice!!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Wouldn't be my first choice, but you'll have no trouble making it work!
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Salamanizer
Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
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Mather huh?
Well, Pipeworks is taller but is a Touchstone gym. So you can expect it to be run by a gestapo like team of low paid adolescent and highly inexperienced staff members who will critique your every movement. This means you must use ridiculous belaying techniques, follow a strict set of rules, tie into the rope their way, etc... Did I mention the high membership costs?
Granite Arch is just about as close, has what seems at times to be zero rules, is run by a savvy crack squad of unmotivated adolescents who will not care enough to impose any kind of "policies" on you. Has cracks from tips to fists (5.7 to 5.11++), will permit you to aid with gear in those cracks (so long as your backed up with a solo TR setup) and usually allows people to solo TR routes with a GriGri. I've even hauled, set up a portaledge and hung out on it while I drank beer and heckled the climbers below. It also has a much larger bouldering area as well as TR area and comes in about 10 to 15 bucks cheaper a month.
Hope that helps. Welcome to Sacatomatoes!
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Ricardo Cabeza
climber
All Over.
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You can be up in the foothills of the Tahoe Sierra pretty quickly.
It's what, 75 minutes from the 80/50 split to the Leap right?
About the same to Emerald Pools to cool off and scare yourself in the heat of the summer.
Congrats on a job, get the f out of dodge as often as possible!
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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I go to Folsom once a month - have been doing it for four years now - I've grown to like Sac. & the delta. you are not far from good climbing. There are all kinds of thing to do in town -biking, hiking - you name it. The S.F. bay is 1 1/2 hours away - you will be at the base of the Sierras.
best of luck
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Texplorer
Trad climber
Coming Soon to Sacramento
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2011 - 09:23pm PT
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Yes, plan to get out often. After training I'll have 6 days off every other week. Plenty of time to do a wall, head to the east side, or make FA ventures into King's Canyon . . . anyone interested shoot me an email.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Perfect!
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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I can vouch for Texplorer as a voracious FA hound and superb rope gun you can point at damn near anything.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Yeah, I was just trying to get a rise out of him, actually I enjoyed his post on a Woodfords Canyon thread. Welcome to the neighborhood, Tex. Looks like you're a veteran climber, too, oh yeah.
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Texplorer
Trad climber
Coming Soon to Sacramento
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2011 - 10:16pm PT
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Heard good stuff about Shuteye but told not to tell about that either.
Yes, rap bolting fantasia is on the list too but only after I install a few extra plastic holds to the harder sections.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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I've even hauled, set up a portaledge and hung out on it while I drank beer and heckled the climbers below.
MAN! if you can throw the empties on the unsuspecting climbers below then sign me up!
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schwortz
Social climber
"close to everything = not at anything", ca
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i live in davis
and i'd recommend living in sacramento
though the gym here (rocknasium) is awesome
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nature
climber
Tuscon Again! India! India! Hawaii! LA?!?!
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As an added bonus you'll be very close to where the next SushiFest is happening (Summer 2011).
We're going to destroy Petch's place.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Sacramento is a pretty cool place but you will probably die...!
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squishy
Mountain climber
sacramento
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sac has great weed man...
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john hansen
climber
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Consumnes is below the snow line
Indian Springs ,, Bowman lake,,
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caughtinside
Social climber
Davis, CA
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Sac gets a bad rap from some, but I really enjoyed living there.
I also lived in Davis. And while I love Davis, I would not recommend it as a place to live unless you are in school or married with kids. Vast social vacuum in between.
The midtown area of Sac is great. When I was there I never had to drive. I could walk to work, grocery store, the fun bars and restaurants. Easy to access the bike trail, which is a real gem. 90 minutes from the Leap.
Not sure what the commute from midtown to Mather would be. IT's reverse commute, maybe 20 minutes? Depending on your tolerance for commuting, you might be better off living right near there in Rancho Cordova, which would put you near Granite Arch gym. Can't speak to that neighborhood.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Near Tahoe, CA
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If you're out on Mather, Granite Arch is on Sunrise/Folsom, probably closer.
Either gym you'll meet great people. Lot's of people. You'll be able to find partners in NO TIME.
Welcome to sac!
Trad? Sport? Bouldering? Beaches, mountains, it's all close.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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The Sac area is great. People love to bad mouth it, but it has a lot going for it. Good weather most of the time. A few weeks of fog and a few weeks of very hot per year isn't bad at all IMO. Close to some of the best mountain recreation areas in the world. Close enough to get to the Ocean occasionaly. And plenty of parks/rivers/trails/lake access locally.
I have lived and traveled in many places all over and sure there are nicer small towns but many of us need to live near a place with jobs. I lived in Truckee for 4 years, working in Reno for 1 of them and I'd rather live in Sac than Reno. Reno's a little closer to the action, but it's more seedy and it's river/parks/lakes/trails don't match sac's.
I work in Rancho and defineatly recommend Granite Arch. Email me if you'd like to meet there weekdays at lunchtime. Very relaxed atmosphere. Some of my favorite employees have since moved on, but everyone is nice. It's not as well equipped / professional as pipeworks, but much less nazi disneyland. Rancho would be pretty grim to live in, but cheap.
If possible live up 50 or 80 in the foothills. Even at only 400 feet elevation I escape the fog sometimes. At 1500 feet you escape the fog most of the time. I live on 12 acres in Loomis near 80 and it's f'ing fantastic. But it's a small town and tough to find housing. And it's kind of far from Mather. Our downtown is like stepping back into the 50s.
This might be worth the commute: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/apa/2191112744.html
There are also some nice rural areas of Fair Oaks, Orangevale, and Folsom. Or go up 50 a bit to El Dorado Hills or higher. Consumnes, Sugarloaf, Phantom Spires and the Leap are pretty close. The skiing is better off 80 but the climbing is farther away.
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MisterE
Social climber
Bouncy Tiggerville
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Wazzup Karsten! Congrats on the job!
Welcome to Cali! Erik
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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Rocklin - I'll be damned! Nice to see a photo of that place. I remember stretching my fingers out in that thin crack in the photo. There were a number of reasonably interesting problems at that place.
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eurotrash
climber
Denmark
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Recently moved from Sac to Denmark. Believe me, as a climber you can do a lot worse than Sac.
Of course, it did get old driving up 50 and 80 every weekend...
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Wanna buy Ron Artest's old house.
Act now and beat the crowd!
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Sac's not bad. It does get ungodly hot for a few weeks, but otherwise it's pretty nice. That little park in Rocklin is fun (though pretty limited) for a quick bouldering session. Traffic can really suck at rush hours, but it's a straight (and often fast) shot up 80 or 50 to some FANTASTIC climbing. Granite Arch and Rocknasium (in Davis, not far) are terrific gyms. You'll be fine, and should have no trouble finding solid partners in the area. Congrats on the job!
(BTW, when you're up at Donner, go down into Truckee for chow at Tacos Jalisco. You'll thank me.)
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JerryA
Mountain climber
Sacramento,CA
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There is year around climbing at Cosumnes Gorge . Take a look at the beta in SummitPost.org . One day went there by myself to toprope and was instead invited to share belays with Warren Harding .
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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It does get ungodly hot for a few weeks
May-Sept
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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May-Sept
Busted...
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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I lived in the bay area during the tech boom and almost made the mistake of settling there. The weather and scene are better than sac BUT the few freeways in/out are bumper to bumper friday and sunday nights. And like Davis it's farther to the mountains as well. Davis is a good town in a bad location.
Averages:
Month Low High
Jan 38.8°F 53.8°F
Feb 41.9°F 60.5°F
Mar 44.2°F 64.7°F
Apr 46.3°F 71.4°F
May 50.9°F 80.0°F
Jun 55.5°F 87.4°F
Jul 58.3°F 92.4°F
Aug 58.1°F 91.4°F
Sept 55.8°F 87.5°F
Oct 50.6°F 78.2°F
Nov 42.8°F 63.7°F
Dec 37.7°F 53.9°F
Having lived in the North East and Alaska I appreciate the warm/hot/dry summers. But I like water sports too and head to the water when it's hot, then I love it. You can always head up to Donner where it's 20 degrees cooler. I like the dry heat from 90-105. And the warm summer nights are wonderful.
From June to early Sept. I'd say we have about 3 spells of very hot weather that can last a few days to 2 weeks. Like over 105. You can just stay in the a/c during the day and go out in the morning/evenings. You NEED a car with a/c.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Alcohol was banned on the river on memorial day and labor day weekends a few years ago.
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Davis is a nice town, but it would add a long commute to the Mather area.
Sugar Load is climbable in winter, although the approach can be a bit muddy.
Yosemite is great on sunny days in winter. Although if you are weekend warrior it is pretty hit or miss whether the good days will line up with your time off.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Oh yeah, the river can be a pretty damn fun place to hang out.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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If you were drinking with your feet in the river, or lawn chair IN the river, you were fine. If you were drinking on the beach a mere yard away, they'd come over and start citing.
The county I believe banned alcohol on the beaches, but only the state could ban it on the river, which they have now done.
IMO they did the right thing and banned it only on holiday weekends. If they banned it altogehter it would be lame. But holidays were getting out of hand.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sacto, gateway to the port of Stockton!
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Roughster
Sport climber
Vacaville, CA
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Most people who live in the area, as Dingus mentions, have no idea of the wealth of outdoor recreation opportunities that are within their grasp, yet don't see hordes of crowds everyone weekend and therefore are not worthy of respect:
 WW Kayaking: Simply put Sacramento is close to the best WW kayaking in the world..period...
Flatw#ter Kayaking: Main stem of the American, Lake Natoma, Lake Folsom, Clementine, The Delta, Berryessa, and multitudes of Sierra lakes when in season.
Road Biking: The AR is tops, the roads outside of Folsom are tops, the Sierras have some the most amazing grades around, Cardiac near Winters, the Silverado Trail, the list goes on and on...
Mountain Biking: Natoma, Folsom, Auburn, Sierras, Rockville.
Climbing: Auburn, Rockville, Rocklin, DTSA, Scraps, MSH, Nut Tree, Putah Creek,Cosumnes, Bowman, Emeralds, Sonora, then the Sierras.
Surf: Within 100 you can be at OB
Frisbee Golf: Pena Adobe, Several East Bay Parks, Several in Sac proper and suburbs
Golf: Tons of great courses
Hiking: LOL. Too hard to choose what to list. Try Codfish Falls in Auburn for a treat off the eaten path but within an afternoon trip.
Fishing: AMAZING! Delta (World class black bass / stripers), AR Salmon, Sac Trout, Folsom Salmon, trout, and bass, Fly fishing the stream and local rivers, hush (Putah Creek is more than just bouldering), Berryessa, Black Butte, Collins, Rollins, Tahoe, New Melones, Hogan, the list goes on and on.
Everything listed within 4 hours, many within 1. It all depends on your perspective. Do you want to make the best of it, or be one of the sheep?
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squishy
Mountain climber
sacramento
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Sacramento sucks, stay away...
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Dr. X
Big Wall climber
X- Town
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Moving to the "Sac"?
You'll get along fine, as soon as you grow the mullet out, the locals will welcome you.
Helps with street cred, if you pick up a IROC Camero out of state, for cheap, before bringing that prized beaty into town!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Haha, Erik! that was exactly what went through my head when I read X's post. Think I'll head down to the Bahamas and score one!
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Roughster forgot skiing, the reason I moved here.
Squaw, Alpine, Kirkwood, Sugar Bowl. Some of the best snow and terrain in America.
The biggest drawback for Sac as a climber is that although there's local climbing, it's 1:45 to world class climbing. 1:30 from Mather area.
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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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My vote be Folsom or Fair Oaks.
Fair Oaks is trippy for the wild chickens running all over the place.
Sacto/Davis area, great area sometimes miss it, sometimes don't.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
leading the away team, but not in a red shirt!
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Really excellent carpeting.
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Dr. X
Big Wall climber
X- Town
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I may be old.........or may not be.
One things for sure:
The mullets & WT cars may be gone, but the mindset is alive & well in Sac!
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ShibbyShane
Trad climber
Sacramento, CA
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Most people who live in the area, as Dingus mentions, have no idea of the wealth of outdoor recreation opportunities that are within their grasp, yet don't see hordes of crowds everyone weekend and therefore are not worthy of respect:
WW Kayaking: Simply put Sacramento is close to the best WW kayaking in the world..period...
Flatw#ter Kayaking: Main stem of the American, Lake Natoma, Lake Folsom, Clementine, The Delta, Berryessa, and multitudes of Sierra lakes when in season.
Road Biking: The AR is tops, the roads outside of Folsom are tops, the Sierras have some the most amazing grades around, Cardiac near Winters, the Silverado Trail, the list goes on and on...
Mountain Biking: Natoma, Folsom, Auburn, Sierras, Rockville.
Climbing: Auburn, Rockville, Rocklin, DTSA, Scraps, MSH, Nut Tree, Putah Creek,Cosumnes, Bowman, Emeralds, Sonora, then the Sierras.
Surf: Within 100 you can be at OB
Frisbee Golf: Pena Adobe, Several East Bay Parks, Several in Sac proper and suburbs
Golf: Tons of great courses
Hiking: LOL. Too hard to choose what to list. Try Codfish Falls in Auburn for a treat off the eaten path but within an afternoon trip.
Fishing: AMAZING! Delta (World class black bass / stripers), AR Salmon, Sac Trout, Folsom Salmon, trout, and bass, Fly fishing the stream and local rivers, hush (Putah Creek is more than just bouldering), Berryessa, Black Butte, Collins, Rollins, Tahoe, New Melones, Hogan, the list goes on and on.
Everything listed within 4 hours, many within 1. It all depends on your perspective. Do you want to make the best of it, or be one of the sheep?
Where are Rockville, DTSA, Scraps, MSH, Nut Tree, Putah Creek, and Bowman? Also, is there anything worth climbing at the Emeralds?
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Ever been to Banning or Hemet? Same thing.
Woo! That's me!
Ducktails represent!
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franky
Trad climber
Ford Pickup Truck, North America
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The vast majority of Sacramento is awful suburban hell. the areas near the center of the city can be cool. The summers are brutal, really hot and dry and if the fires start it can feel like living in hell. The coast range is cool but desperately lacking public land until you get into Mendocino National Forest which is actually quite a haul. The traffic in and out of tahoe on the weekend can be insanity, and highway 50 in the winter during snow has the scariest drivers i've ever witnessed in the united states of america. I second the opinion that Davis isn't worth living in unless you only use a bike for transportation.
If you aren't going to live near the center of Sacramento, where there is at least some culture, then live as close to the mountains as you can since all of that suburban sh#t is awful. Rancho Cordova (I worked there too, like most people who have lived in Sac) is the worst city I've ever seen. I'd rather live in Gary, Indiana (if it had mountains within two hours).
All that said, the trad cragging in Tahoe is spectacular. The skiing is amazing, the hiking is fantastic, and the scenery beautiful. It is pretty easy to avoid hordes if you want. The drive to Bishop is beautiful and pretty chill, same for The Valley. pack your bags on thursday night, and leave straight from work on friday, only work at a place that has a shower so you can show up at 7am monday morning without ever having gone home. Sacramento is the land of the weekend warrior.
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eurotrash
climber
Denmark
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As a former Sacramento resident, I have to say...franky, you hit the nail right on the head.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Tex bro, just sleep in back of the Cougar behind the climbing gym. At least it don't rain all winter in the Ball-Sac.
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squishy
Mountain climber
sacramento
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I was out cragging in flip flops with my shirt off yesterday...go SAC!!
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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"Where are Rockville, DTSA, Scraps, MSH, Nut Tree, Putah Creek, and Bowman? Also, is there anything worth climbing at the Emeralds?"
Putah Creek is a little bouldering area, basalt, outside of Winters, on the way up to L. Berryesa. There's enough there to keep you entertained for a few hours. I almost got a terminal case of poison oak there, one time, after pulling up some pesky bushes by hand. Don't know the state of the place now.
The Emeralds are a very cool spot, well worth visiting, and it can literally be cool there when other places are too hot.
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squishy
Mountain climber
sacramento
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Putah Creek is fine, accessible, but floods after heavy storms...the problems there are surprisingly good...I was impressed...but it ain't granite...
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atchafalaya
Boulder climber
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Been in Sac since 97, and have few complaints. The burbs around Sac arent bad, unless you move to the stucco ghettos of Folsom or Natomas. Fair oaks, carmichael, Rocklin, Land Park, East sac, Curtis Park all have great areas.
A lot of folks say the nightlife and "culture" are lacking, but if you are over 25 or have kids that is a non-issue. Quick access to climbing, skiing, the coast and the eastside make it hard to leave.
Climbed at Putah in shorts on Saturday and flyfished the American for steelhead on sunday. Life is what you make of it, and its all good in Sac.
edit: The emeralds is close and ha great climbing on the benches. Tons of new routes at Bowman lake but road will be closed till snow melts.
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Redwood City
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May 27, 2016 - 05:55pm PT
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Bump for living in the Sack area...
Bay Area cost of living sucks , trying to convince my wife to move to Central Valley . We're looking at Folsom , Roseville , El Dorado Hills , places like that ....
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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May 27, 2016 - 06:29pm PT
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We're looking at Folsom , Roseville , El Dorado Hills , places like that ....
Folsom and Eastward, or Rocklin/Loomis and Eastward are great places.
You are still 20 minutes to Sac, but head East and you are in the foothills.
80 has the better skiing.
50 has the better climbing. But 80 is still good with Auburn Quarry, The Emeralds, and Donner Summit.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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May 27, 2016 - 06:34pm PT
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Go there a lot. Lived there a lot. I'd consider the new housing in midtown or west sac, too, if you want to be close to lively restaurants, bars and music. Pipeworks is putting in a brewpub soon!
Hot summers can be mitigated, although August is dreadful. The upside is outdoor BBQ's every night while the Bay Area folks who brag about their weather are wearing down jackets.
1 /2 hrs to the Leap & Donner, 3 to the Valley.
DMT, you're in Sac? I thought you lived in SF.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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May 28, 2016 - 08:17am PT
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Curious where did you texplorer end up? How do you like it?
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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May 28, 2016 - 01:05pm PT
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Several posters have mentioned the heat. Not clear if that is an issue for you or not. If it is, you might want to research the delta breeze. The Vacaville to West Sac region really cools off most summer evenings when the breeze shows up. As you get further east and higher up, it has less and less of an effect.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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May 28, 2016 - 01:31pm PT
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Too funny, DMT. Yes, the grocery store does tell a tale.
Yeah, Yolo is weird, but lots of craft breweries near the river. Probably a better place to visit than live.
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Redwood City
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We might just have to do that soon DMT, thanks for the info , supposed to be low 90's in Redwood City on Friday ...
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Man I'm glad I live in the high desert, where it actually cools off at night! Today, June first, the high was 91°, pretty sure thats the first day in the Nineties here, this year.
Climbing is seven miles away from where I'm typing., bouldering two, unclimbed 500' ow lines ( all the other sizes too, but who cares about that?) under 20 miles from the door.
Have fun in Sacto, I couldn't do it 😎
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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I know it works for you, but Remember, I've been there.
How far do you have to drive to find something like this?
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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I know it happens, but I also know it isn't the norm in the hot season. I've spent too many nights in the dark in Davis in the 90's not to know better.
Not to mention the humidity.....
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Phil_B
Social climber
CHC, en zed
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Cleo and I moved here this year after spending 2.5 years in NZ. Miss the low stress life we had there, but at least we have money here.
Sac is much better than I had thought it was going to be. Right now, it's bloody hot and we had to turn on the A/C, but we're going kayaking tomorrow after work and will probably head to Yosemite this weekend.
There's heaps of brewpubs in this town. In fact, Pipeworks gym is going to be starting their own soon.
https://touchstoneclimbing.com/touchstone-brewing-company-coming-to-sacramento/
Like others have said, if you are in Midtown, it's super easy to get to places by bike. Often faster than cars.
Still loving Sac. . .
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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just like anyplace else, good and bad,
good:
kayak ski, climb, party, music, zeldas pizza, ladies, jobs, fireworks, disc golf, close to tahoe, bay area, yosemite, lassen, paskenta,
bad:
hideous heat-110 for 30 days in a row one summer. floods, crime-50 people murdered around 1990 during the crack epidemic, lock your car, bad air-you will either develop asthma, hay fever or alergies within ten years or less, dying elm trees will take the paint off your car, or smash the top in, bad food, bad water, dangerous fog in winter, traffic, roaches, law enforcement-state cops, chp, city police, county sheriff, cia, fbi, capitol police, parking cops, mountain bike cops, downtown- gotta move your car to the right side of the street every monday and tuesday for trucks to pick up stuff, overgrown cowtown with the IQ of a grapefruit, trains that clog up traffic signals for days,
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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I spoke too harshly, it cools down there more at night than I generally acknowledge...
It's that horrible time in August / September though, that would kill me.
And it's the dew point, not the % humidity that is the killer. According to NOAH, the dp is 52° there as I post this, ( relative humidity 76%) too damp for swamp cooler to work. I'm more sensitive to this than most, but that makes my skin crawl.
I realize that that's not that humid by eastern standards, but more than I can deal with. In contrast it's 29°, Here. Though the temp is the same both places at this hour, it's not clammy here, which is what I refer to, as "cooling off" at night. Less concrete and asphalt helps too.
Sacto is a good hub for weekend climbing though, and the gyms rock. If you have to live in the sprawl, you can do a lot worse.
Our gym is three plastic outdoor boulders.. Btw,.looks remarkably similar to that place in Elk Grove (?) that you've posted photos of, Dingus
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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I have hung in Sacramento a bunch for work, mostly in the downtown area, and have always liked it. It is not my dream city by any means but if you need to make your living in a city in California and like the outdoors it is a good choice.
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cleo
Social climber
wherever you go, there you are
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I hate hot weather, I really do, but it's < 60F this morning and I work in an air conditioned office, so it's really only my 4 mile bike commute home that's a problem.
which won't be a problem today since we're loading up the boats on a car and going for a little class III kayak run after work.
(yea, I'd rather be in the mountains too, but the jobs I want are in cities, so this is a pretty good compromise. And if you live "in the grid" - e.g. between I-5, 50, and the American River, it's a very bikeable city with lots of good food, beer, culture, etc.)
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cleo
Social climber
wherever you go, there you are
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Fog? What fog? I moved here in November, bike to work every day, and don't remember any fog. Then again, I moved from a colder, wetter place, and thought the winter cycling was downright balmy... I only had to wear ski gloves a couple of times! And there was never any ice on the road!
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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It's somehow supposed to be a completely unnatural 102 for this weekend here in PDX [ the record high for June 4th is 93 °F (1978) ] - go frigging figure. Gotta be hot in Sacramento if we're getting hit like this.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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over 100 in JTree today. It's a dry heat tho. Only seemed like 85 workin in the sun. Now iot's 85 and feels like 100.Lol.
i remember when it snowed downtown Sac!
i also remember when Folsom(manmade reservoir) was always full.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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26% with a 51° dew point, ugh! I'm glad it works for you, you can have it! My skin crawls just thinking about it
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Hell...it has to be better than Bakersfield.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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I'm here visiting DMT, join me for a bouldering session at the Pipeworks - before it gets hot!
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Indeed. My kids live here, so I'm always here.
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cleo
Social climber
wherever you go, there you are
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Ooooooooo, Supertopo BCOD* sesh as the Pipeworks!
(I won't step foot in Pipeworks in the afternoon for the next 4 months, too frickin' hot in there!)
*BCOD = Butt Crack of Dawn
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Redwood City
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Anybody want to chime in on a Sacramento vs. Fresno debate ?
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Killer K
Boulder climber
Sacramento, CA
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105 degrees today's high.....
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cleo
Social climber
wherever you go, there you are
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Biking home from work feels like being slowly baked in a convection oven...
(LOVE THE BCOD!)
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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I do much better with cold than heat and sac isn't that bad. Granted I live at 400 ft elevation and on a creek, outside of sac so my place is cooler than most areas.
If we run the whole house fan all night the house is downright cold in the morning.
It's really only about 30 days a year that it's too hot. And that's only from noon to 8. So you get outside in the AM or stay in the water or at least shade.
Dingus is right the fog is worse. But as soon as you get some elevation you'll have less and less of it.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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that's why i liked living in Auburn. seemed like the fog couldn't make it past Newcastle:)
But driving down Auburn-Folsom rd. the fog could be beyond "pea-soup", once i pulled over and got out to clean the windshield and couldn't find my car.
On a positive note, that fog is a major reason Penryn grew the best peaches in the whole wide world!
And Asian-pears. And Persimmons. And, And,,,,,
Ho man, bring me home(add slurpping noise)......
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Again, I'm glad I don't have to deal with that!
You guys are in denial
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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And I'm glad I do t have to deal with living in Wyoming!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Come to the Vedauwoo Sushifest and tell me there's a better place on the planet to be😎
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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It's all trade offs.
I'm sure being near Vedauwoo is awesome if climbing is the focus of your life.
I'm 1 hr to Sugar Bowl or Squaw Valley or Donner Summit, and 3.5 hours to Yosemite. 3 hours to surfing.
Vedauwoo is 6 hours to Jackson Hole.
I just went to a family fest in our little downtown and it was 85 degrees at 8PM and so nice.
I've been tempted to move to Hawaii as I've got family there, but I just can't give up the mountains, as much as I love the ocean and surf.
If I could afford two places things would be different, but NorCal is a great compromise to have so many great outdoor sports within a few hours.
Plus you have the mediterranean climate, warm dry summers so you can climb, etc. almost any day without worrying about being rained out, and wet winters so you can still ski and have trees and green places.
It would be tough for me to live in Sacramento proper, or pretty much any city. But where I'm at I'm in the country and still convenient to everything we need (which is important because I have kids).
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Anybody want to chime in on a Sacramento vs. Fresno debate ?
One valley town is pretty much. The same as another... Apologies to Camus
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Life is short, pick your playgrounds well!
Today I'm headed an hour up a dirt road to a secret crag with all day shade, unlimited first ascent possibilities, free camping, no traffic between here and there, no other climbers, dry air, 4g, the works.
OT
Interesting digression back there about vedauwoo/ Laramie and skiing... Ten miles west of Vedauwoo ( don't call it "the Voo") @ Lincoln summit ( high point of I-80, btw) is the training trail complex for the University of Wyoming cross country ski team. Some of the best skate skiing I've ever encountered! And I've toured the west for it.
It's possible to ski in Vedauwoo at some point pretty much every winter, though that's more of a novelty, given the wind blown nature of the high plains...
Though Laramie will never be known as a ski town, it's only 35 miles to the Snowy Range ski area, and the back country skiing in said range.
Beyond that steamboat is closer than Tahoe is to Sacto, and the greenies don't do chain law the way they do in Ca. So that's a whole hassle avoided...The entire I-70 ski corridor is about the same distance as Tahoe is from the BA.
It's colder, but that's part of why the snow is so much better than on the west coast.
Or as has been said, you can drive six hours to Jackson, with even better snow and colder temps. But then you have to deal with Jacksons hole, aka Hollywood....as wyomingites know, county 22 isnt really part of Wyoming...
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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It's great having people appreciate and love where they live. It's the chance a place has to become even better.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You gotta find your own Sacramento. You're gonna be stuck there a lot, make it count!. Mine is Moab/ Laramie with an admixture of NorCal and county 18. And believe me, I've tried them all! ... west of Chicago, anyway.
If I seem critical of the real Sacto, it's a cautionary tale for people like me for whom it would not work, ( dew point, traffic, allergens) though it might appear it would at first glance. Same for Denver, Salt lake, Reno, Bakersfield, Fresno, Tempe;all basically the same city, with various nuance.
You don't always get to second guess these things, play to win!!
Once upon a time I would have thought Moab was too hot, until I explored the nature of heat more closely,, and became able to exit it, in the hottest months.
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John M
climber
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100 degrees.. pfft..
never thought I might end up living in this kind of heat.. laughs on me I guess.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Where is that John?
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John M
climber
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I'm in bullhead city Jaybro..
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Got it.
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dikhed
climber
State of fugue and disbelief
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the voo sounds great
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