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Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 23, 2013 - 02:31am PT
Truthdweller, That's the best story I've heard on this tacostand!! Praise God!


It rocked my world Blu!! Ali's wife is still a muslim. Ali is still struggling, and keeping the new found Truth relatively quiet to his wife, in fear of repercusions. He was a Suni, she is a Shia...imagine that! They had to get married in secret! During my visit I prayed that God would establish my thoughts and enable me to speak openly. The last night I stayed, Ali's wife Iman sat with us in conversation (not customary) for she told Ali that she was comfortable with me, so Ali invited her to sit with us. Shortly after, I found myself looking at the wedding ring on my finger, and I realized that Ali had one on also. Two men, two different countries, two different cultures, once, two different religions, one common ring. It was the RING that opened the door! Ali had no idea why he wore a ring to signify his marriage to his spouse. I spoke openly about God to Ali and Iman! It was amazing and with joyful tears at the end. I left early the next morning with Ali and Iman up to make tea and see me off. What a reunion!
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 23, 2013 - 02:34am PT
Truthdweller: you have been brain washed twice;

Man, it's about time my brain has been washed of all the filth and lies that's been put into it, Thank God...TWICE!

Chewybacca

Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
Dec 23, 2013 - 03:53am PT
We've all been brainwashed, but fundamentalists seem to enjoy it.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Dec 23, 2013 - 10:36pm PT
New Salt Compounds Challenge the Foundation of Chemistry
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131219142138.htm

"I think this work is the beginning of a revolution in chemistry," Oganov says.

"We found crazy compounds that violate textbook rules"

"But what it also means is that we can make new materials with exotic properties."

moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
Dec 23, 2013 - 11:35pm PT

I am not sure why, but I am re-posting those:

"Q- Ball:
Hypothetical of course-
you meet a man that doesn't drink, or do any drugs. He also doesn't swear. Along with a large family with many grandkids he tries to teach them how he grew up in the swamps (hunting, fishing and respect for all).

He happens to be religious and is proud to preach the gospel and speak his thoughts. He has sinned much and wants the rest of the world to respect one another and believe in the lord.

This man loves everyone but has a faith. Even those that break his ideology, he respects and hopes to talk about his view with others.

what say you?"

Me:

Hypothetical:

a man that doesn't drink, or do any drugs. He also doesn't swear. Along with a large family with many grandkids he tries to teach them how he grew up in the swamps (hunting, fishing and respect for all).

He happens to be non-religious and is proud not to preach the gospel and speak his thoughts. He has sinned much and wants the rest of the world to respect one another and do not believe in the lord.

This man loves everyone but has no faith. Even those that break his ideology, he respects and hopes to talk about his view with others.

I got your drift...

what say you?



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moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
Dec 23, 2013 - 11:41pm PT
Why believing in an unidentified object/subject makes you a better person?

I think I was a better person when I believed in Santa, but I don't think I got bad because I stopped believing he was real.

It was the Wall Street! ;)
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 24, 2013 - 01:00am PT
We've all been brainwashed, but fundamentalists seem to enjoy it.

Not true... More like your mind has been filled with lies and not the Truth. "Jesus said unto him, I am...the truth..." Your mind has NOT been filled with Jesus Christ, and since Jesus Christ is the truth, your mind has been filled with lies. It really is that simple.
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2013 - 11:15am PT
So truthy,
you don't believe the science that proves that the earth is 4.5 billion years old, that evolution created the life we see today, and there was no great Noah's flood
But you believe anything that someone will tell you is in a book that you happen to like and can be interpreted a billion different ways!

That's pure gullibility
There are millions of examples of people just like you being manipulated into being involved in every evil part of human history, the Iraq war being one of them

Jesus can't be truth, what Jesus may have said was the truth
You are not using the word truth correctly
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Dec 24, 2013 - 11:44am PT

"Not true... More like your mind has been filled with lies and not the Truth"...


Bullsh!t...

WBraun

climber
Dec 24, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
Just see both sides of the fence preaching.

Each side knows the truth and each side says the other is wrong.

Stooopid .......

The "Truth" is far beyond all the sides and stands eternally beyond the grasp of the "sides" to interpret.

One can never ever defeat the "Truth".

It exists and permeates infinitely everywhere ......

Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Dec 24, 2013 - 06:26pm PT
Werner I know this.... Most people are good.

DMT
jgill

Boulder climber
Colorado
Dec 24, 2013 - 07:05pm PT
Happy Holidays to both sides!

An analytic continued fraction expansion in complex plane
An analytic continued fraction expansion in complex plane
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Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Dec 24, 2013 - 07:28pm PT
The Mandala-Meister strikes again.
MH2

climber
Dec 24, 2013 - 07:44pm PT
Both sides? The real and the imaginary? Merry a + bi mas.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Dec 24, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 24, 2013 - 10:31pm PT
I see you don't like some of the very foundations that America was built on "F"... The Word of God and the military. I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post, or go express your dislikes openly in another country.
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 24, 2013 - 10:34pm PT

So truthy,
you don't believe the science that proves that the earth is 4.5 billion years old, that evolution created the life we see today, and there was no great Noah's flood
But you believe anything that someone will tell you is in a book that you happen to like and can be interpreted a billion different ways!

That's pure gullibility
There are millions of examples of people just like you being manipulated into being involved in every evil part of human history, the Iraq war being one of them

Jesus can't be truth, what Jesus may have said was the truth
You are not using the word truth correctly

"Jesus can't be truth, what Jesus may have said was the truth"
Did you really just say this?
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Dec 24, 2013 - 10:36pm PT
Truthdweller:

Its Christmas my friend. Time to kick that stuff to the curb until Thursday at the earliest.
Capiche?

Merry Christmas to you and thanks for your service to this country.
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 24, 2013 - 10:37pm PT
you don't believe the science that proves that the earth is 4.5 billion years old, that evolution created the life we see today, and there was no great Noah's flood

Not sure if I'm interpreting this correctly...are you saying that I don't believe there was a great flood, or are you stating that there wasn't a great flood?
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Dec 24, 2013 - 10:43pm PT



The Birth of Jesus
Luke 2:15-20
1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.

2 (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)

3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.

4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)

5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.

6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.

7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.

9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.

13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.


The Birth of Jesus
Luke Chapter 2 : 8
15 And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us.

16 And they came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger.

17 And when they had seen it, they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning this child.

18 And all they that heard it wondered at those things which were told them by the shepherds.

19 But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.

20 And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them.


In less than two hours the day will be CHRISTmas, and like every other day, ITS ALL ABOUT HIM, PRAISE GOD!
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