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Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2012 - 01:02pm PT
I've made my choice, after many years of acquiring wisdom.
And I'm happy with it.


My choice rejects the bible, and it's prophecies.

The Bible and Christianity is the biggest batch of Baloney ever sold.

You just don't have a very good baloney detector

I would bet that those prophecies never happen, but we will all be dead from old age before you guys admit that they are never happening, and you will be saying they are JUST ABOUT TO COME TRUE.

What happened on Dec 21, 2012??
Nothing
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 28, 2012 - 01:14pm PT
So when you see it come to pass as prophesied then what?

I would hope you would have a change of heart. G-d is very forgiving.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2012 - 01:31pm PT
Why doesn't god ever stop mass killing of children, or anything else good

all he seems to do is forgive us for everything, which is the same as doing nothing in my book

anyway, I don't need forgiving.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 28, 2012 - 02:12pm PT
What happened on Dec 21, 2012??
Nothing

First of all the December 21st, 2012, hysteria was also much propagated by Hollywood. Purposeful hysteria. Those of us who know the Bible knew not to give it any importance and no worries. (Well, worry about crazy people doing crazy things and taking advantage of others and their fears. Always that possibility exists, sadly.)

Besides, The Hebrew Calendar is far older and goes much further into the future. It includes The Messianic Age (The 7th Age). Then thereafter, the 8th age -- no more time. We live among G-d. He is our G-d, and we are his Children. The Mayan Calendar has nothing on the Hebrew Calendar, which by the way is based on Lunar Cycles, and the years date from the creation of Adam (modern thinking man as we know ourselves -- Homo Sapien). Cro-Magna Man, Neanderthals were before Adam. Even the Hebrew Talmud hints and talks of this. Yes there was some cross-breeding going on. Man likes to do it with anyone apparently.

December 21st, 2012. It never had anything to do with the Bible, G-d's will, nothing to do with anything Yeshua HaMashaich said, except he did tell us there would be false prophets, don't listen to them and don't believe them. There is a timeline to the ages. But there is no end. Just an end to this age and a new one begins -- The Millennium, 1000 years of peace, The Messianic Age. You have to read the good word to know it. You have to study. There are definitive signs. Everything else is just distraction. You have to know the signs to look for and you have to know the timeline.



I would bet that those prophecies never happen, but we will all be dead from old age before you guys admit that they are never happening, and you will be saying they are JUST ABOUT TO COME TRUE.

The prophecies are happening right now . . .

The Timeline has begun:

We are in the time of the Seals. There is great evil around the world. Sadly it is going to get worse.

We are in the time of Middle East strife and the very real threat of War there.

We are in the time of the real possibility of the 3rd Construction of The Temple in Jerusalem. A sect of The Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem are very much in favor of doing this and they are preparing right now. Google it. They have the priestly robs made. They are raising red heifers. They are relearning how to do the sacrifices in a Temple setting and all the ceremonies. Treasures to be placed in the Temple are being prepared or are now made. They have made a huge golden Menorah to place in the 3rd Temple already. They keep trying to set the corner stone for the Temple, but the TPTB won't allow it to stay. Eventually they will and the 3rd Temple will be reconstructed, and then animal sacrifices will begin anew (but no sacrifices can do what Yeshua HaMashiach's self-sacrifice on The Cross provided for all mankind throughout eternity, the forgiveness of sin -- and yes even you Dr. F need forgiveness. We all do. Or its eternal separation from G-d, in Hades.)
http://www.templemount.org/
http://www.templemount.org/recent.html
http://www.3rdtemplebill.org/

The timeline has begun.




Your other questions I will get to ... got things to do now. I'll get back.
go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Dec 28, 2012 - 02:26pm PT
Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2012 - 03:59pm PT
Credit: Dr. F.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 28, 2012 - 04:26pm PT
We but have to believe in Him to have eternal life...

Why would anyone want "eternal life"?
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2012 - 07:49pm PT
Adolf Hitler was an atheist and his regime godless."

Last time I checked Adolf was a Roman Catholic (who was never excommunicated by the church.. FYI). He preached on the airwaves and in speeches that they, the German people, were doing "gods work". The Germans running the concetration camps were Catholics, Lutherans, Christians. So how about you do a little fact checking next time before you write some out and out lies to make "religion(s)" look better, OK!
John Butler

Social climber
SLC, Utah
Dec 28, 2012 - 08:00pm PT
5 months of Locust Torture??
Is that Worldwide?, or just in some areas?

I get 5 months of locust torture every year in Utah... May through September
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2012 - 08:06pm PT
I'm wondering if the Research Station at the South Pole will have a Locust problem?
Klimmer says yes
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 28, 2012 - 09:19pm PT
http://www.escapeallthesethings.com/mark-of-the-beast.htm

But there are always stubborn, crafty and prepared people who would still refuse the mark and scratch out an existence "off the grid." There is apparently another, fourth, pressure that will take care of even them. At the 5th Trumpet, we are told that an army of deadly scorpion-like locusts with teeth and stingers are released from imprisonment in the Abyss (Rev 9:1-3). Although lethal-looking (Rev 9:7-9), they do not go out to kill people; they only go out to torture everyone except the 144,000 and the other gathered-protected servants of God (Rev 9:4-5; 7:3-4; 12:13-17) . It actually says people will seek death but not be able to have it (Rev 9:6). These demonic creatures will no doubt be able to search out every nook and cranny where survivalists and other resistors with stashes of food and ammunition are hiding. Their fortification, walls and weapons will not protect them from the locusts. The torture will no doubt be very effective in getting them to accept the mark.



My commentary on the Locusts:

John the Apostle who wrote Revelation while sent to the Island of Patmos to die, was using descriptions he was familiar with when Yeshua gave him these visions of the future and commanded him to write them down.

I don't think they will be real locusts, but technology that is Locust like. The NWO is absolutely Luciferian and when the time comes, they will turn on the people with their armies and technology and use it against all those who refuse the Mark of the Beast. I can see these "Locusts" as miniature RC/GPS/Satellite controlled helicopters with remote sensing capabilities and weaponry. Think UAVs or drones on steroids. Capable of torture through sound frequencies, a full host of EM frequencies or worse. If they can dream it, its already done.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmanned_aerial_vehicle


Right now we use this technology to do war crimes:

US drones kill up to 80% civilians Pakistan Interior Minister
Published: 18 October, 2012, 13:55
Edited: 19 October, 2012, 14:15
http://rt.com/news/pakistan-civilian-victims-drones-695/


Snagged this from another ST thread ...
Could you imagine what this would be able to do if it's eventually made to fly? Guess who funded this research? See the end of the video.

Boston Dynamics Big Dog (new video March 2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W1czBcnX1Ww




I just find this really scary. Look at all the military surrounding these robotics. They must think its the coolest technology ever. "Oh, the Wars we can wage against humanity with such technology!"

DARPA Building Real Life Terminators Military Robots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdYSStF4fqc





Adolf Hitler was an atheist and his regime godless.

Hitler was a CHINO = "Christian in name only." Many call themselves Christian but are not. Yeshua said you would know them by the fruit they bear.

Hitler, and the leaders of the 3rd Reich, the SS, of Nazi Germany, were very much into the occult. They were absolutely Luciferian.

Read the book:

The Nazis and The Occult: The Dark Forces Unleashed by The Third Reich
by Paul Roland
go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Dec 28, 2012 - 10:42pm PT
Jesus Predicts the Destruction of the Temple and His Own Second Coming; Four Parables of Warning
http://parallelgospels.org/Jesus_Predicts_the_Destruction_of_the_Temple_and_His_Own_Second_Coming_Four_Parables_of_Warning.htm

The Temple was destroyed in 70AD
http://www.templemount.org/destruct2.html

It will happen the way Jesus said it would!
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2012 - 10:46pm PT
Klimmer
Very few Christians would agree with your version of Christianity

Every Christian I know have their own personal version of Christianity, where they pick and choose willy nilly what they like, and what they reject; and they all profess that they are the only true Christians.

I say they are all wrong.

There is only one version of atheism, and we all agree on it.
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Dec 28, 2012 - 10:55pm PT

It will happen the way Jesus said it would!





And, you don't fuk witha the Jesus . . .











go-B

climber
Hebrews 1:3
Dec 28, 2012 - 10:56pm PT
There is only one version of atheism, and we all agree on it.

The sh!t end of the stick!
cintune

climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Dec 28, 2012 - 11:40pm PT
Jan

Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
Dec 28, 2012 - 11:48pm PT

What I love about India.


Credit: Jan
MH2

climber
Dec 28, 2012 - 11:53pm PT
There's a lot to love. About India.



for example:

The greatest mathematics before the Golden Age of Greece was in India's early Vedic (Hindu) civilization. The Vedics understood relationships between geometry and arithmetic, developed astronomy, astrology, calendars, and used mathematical forms in some religious rituals.

The earliest mathematician to whom definite teachings can be ascribed was Lagadha, who apparently lived about 1300 BC and used geometry and elementary trigonometry for his astronomy. Baudhayana lived about 800 BC and also wrote on algebra and geometry; Yajnavalkya lived about the same time and is credited with the then-best approximation to π.


http://fabpedigree.com/james/mathmen.htm
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Dec 29, 2012 - 12:09am PT
Geez go-B, i dont think i ever heard U be so Blunt! & Klimmer is working the sharp end! i agree with U both.

i havent heard the atheists agree on anything, EXCEPT being anti-religious.
unless you call "looking to science for a better way of life" a good religion? Anyone can see that the "scientific marvels" of the last few hundred years are whats causing the demise of the planet. MAN with his tool
"Science" has raped, pillaged, and killed Earths resources more in the last few hundred years than all of Mankind did in the prior 10,000 yrs.
And most of it brought about by the Americans and their "Free Thinking"
Seems oblivious though that man's quest for scientific material comforts
and pleasures would lead them astray of their Spirituality.


DRF,
i think klimmer is pretty much spot on 100%!
i just found it interesting that Atheist cant believe the Bible because
of the first book (Genesis). and the Christian finds Proof of the Bible
in the last book (Revelation). Maybe its whats inbetween thats REALLY important?

Jus Gett'in Back At It
BB
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Dec 29, 2012 - 12:29am PT
India? Funny you say..

i just watched a "special" on Rape in India.

They reported "a woman is RAPED every 20 minutes in India".

They showed video (thanks to video phones) of a 16yo girl having her clothes ripped off and raped by atleast 10 men, in a public area with
100's of people around.

They interviewed a few young men. Their reasoning was that with the latest
surgance of abortions happening. People are aborting more females than males for economic reasons.And there isn't enough women to go around.

Jus Blessed To Have A Daughter
BB
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