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Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Oct 18, 2012 - 03:35pm PT
KJV Norton?
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Oct 18, 2012 - 03:56pm PT
an infant is an inherent sinner

Again, morally reprehensible in every single respect.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Oct 18, 2012 - 03:56pm PT
I see the debate continues? Who is winning?

Are politics, God and religion all ganging up on science. Watchout - don't piss off Edward Teller's friends.
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:09pm PT
inherent as in the inherent rate of the ventricles of the heart is 20-40 bpm...it has nothing to do with morality, it's how God designed it. Speaking of design, there's God right there....the spontaneous beating of a cardiac cell at 20-40 bpm without any outside stimuli!
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:11pm PT
Killing a zygote is murdering a person.

A natural enough idea, I suppose, to a traditional theist operating off of traditional theism.
Norwegian

Trad climber
Placerville, California
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:13pm PT
this thread is like
the graveyard of inspired thought.

truthdweller,
you are overfocused on what
you fear.
truth lies beyond your search domain,
sucker.

gobi,
drop your understood,
and run.

you are hibernating while
the rest of us are devouring unknowns
by creating new ones.

im so sorry for you folk.
it is such a sad way to tread the day,
as you do.
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:17pm PT
...if you were to take a divot out of a the atria of a human heart and place it on the table, it would continue to beat at the the inherent rate of 60-100 bpm until it became hypoxic, as the AV node, 40-60 bpm, and the ventricles, 20-40 bpm...awesome!
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:19pm PT
BINGO!

Norwegian, "I FEAR GOD"

Thank you for stating that fact!
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:19pm PT
an infant is an inherent sinner

what an incredibly outright ignorant thing to say of an infant

much like "incantations" will heal the sick and raise the dead



oh, by the way, Truthy:

You can keep insisting on the King James Bible until the cows come home for all the good it will do you

Unlike you, who will not clearly state WHY the KJV should be used for discussion, I on the other hand have indeed laid out exactly why it should NOT be.

I will repeat my position: The King James Bible "cleans up" and actually "removes" much of the "objectionable" language of both the New and Old Testaments.

And THAT I why I "object". Because, you see, neither you or anyone else get such a "free pass" as regard the Bible. IF one takes the position, as you MUST, that the bible was indeed written physically by men BUT those men heard the voice of god in their heads telling them what to write, then you don't get to "cherry pick" the bible, as in NOT absolutely accepting and believing that god did indeed tell us humans to murder, rape, and enslave each other.

And when you insist on a cleaned up KJ version, then you are trapped, because then you are saying that every word of the Old and New Testaments were yes written by men and men alone, and god was NOT in their heads telling them what to put down.

GOT IT NOW?
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:20pm PT
Norwegian?









































































BOO!
jstan

climber
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:20pm PT
Truthdweller:
Thats correct Norton, an infant is an inherent sinner, "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one

TD your posts reek of self righteousness. Who are you to tell us what we must do? You have posted in the past about your own sins. I have to tell you. Your sins were pretty bad. Awful if you must know.

So you live your life. And have the grace to let us live ours.
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:21pm PT
I got it long ago Norton....















































"He won't"
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:22pm PT
Norwegian, "I FEAR GOD"

Thank you for stating that fact!


yep, the fact that Truthy actually "fears" god says a LOT about his god, does it not?

that he is "afraid" of his god, that his relationship with his god has a core tenant of FEAR

It's all about control, and FEAR is a huge component of control

No one, absolutely no one, should "fear" what they profess to "love"

this is just plain backward, 7th century, mind control crap
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:23pm PT
Jstan,

I came in to discuss with Norton the Bible............."He won't"......not telling you to do anything.....where'd you get that?
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:23pm PT
I rest my case Norton..................."He won't"
squishy

Mountain climber
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:24pm PT
you only want to talk about one book?
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:28pm PT
Homosexuals must be stoned to death. Because man on man is an abomination in the eyes of God.

A natural enough idea, I suppose, to a traditional theist operating off of traditional theism.
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:33pm PT
Fear: In scripture, fear is used to express a filial or a slavish passion. In good men, the fear of God is a holy awe or reverence of God and his laws, which springs from a just view and real love of the divine character, leading the subjects of it to hate and shun every thing that can offend such a holy being, and inclining them to aim at perfect obedience. This is filial fear. Jeremiah 32. Slavish fear is the effect or consequence of guilt; it is the painful apprehension of merited punishment. Romans 8
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:36pm PT
Jstan,

And have the grace to let us live ours.


Grace: "getting what you don't deserve." There's only One that can give you that. All you have to do is ask.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" - John 3:16
Truthdweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:41pm PT
I'm out.....later!
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