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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 9, 2011 - 02:49am PT
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Rainy and windy day in NZ after a week of summer bliss so I shall dive into the Den of Antiquity for some tidbits of the past.
I believe the CMGS was in reality an offshoot of Tompkins and his original North Face Store in North Beach. Between manufacturing and selling gear, socializing next store with Ms Doda at the Condor Club and living in the big city, the boys needed a little guiding to complement the day. Don't remember much about it so perhaps some input would be welcome.
I am remiss in my research, never got beyond Googling Doda.
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PhilG
Trad climber
The Circuit, Tonasket WA
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guido:
That's quite an exceptional group of guides!
I agree it would be interesting to hear from people who were taught climbing by that group of climbers.
Phil
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Well, I am not remembering either. However the 308 Columbus address was the first North Face address and Dougie's lair for sure.
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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'Morning, Guido.
I remember picking up one of those brochures at that first North Face store. I wonder if they actually guided?
The store was a success, right from the first, because they had relevant climbing gear like Chouinard iron and those tan canvas La Fuma packs. The other mountain shop in town was Gerry Mountain Sports, an offshoot from their Boulder headquarters and more into backpacking.
The grand opening of The North Face was an evening in October '66. Doug Tompkins hired an unknown local band called the Grateful Dead, and served Kool Aid, which was hip right then because of the Acid Tests. I spent part of the dreamy evening leaning on Pig Pen's organ watching him play.
On second thought, I recall hitching a ride with Pratt around then from Camp 4 to Tahoe. He was on his way to teach climbing. Had to be this school.
Parts of that drive in Chuck's VW bus stand out in sharp relief. Like driving down the East Walker River canyon and stopping to look at one of those granite crags along the road. It turned out to be rotten rock, but something about being with Chuck, who I admired tremendously, makes that drive vivid over 40 years later.
Is there more to the brochure? A list of climbing courses, anything?
I remember we ended up in South Shore. Maybe Chuck was heading to Lover's Leap. It was already thought of as a place to guide then. Royal had his Rockcraft climbing school across Highway 50 in a cabin for a few years, and guided at the Leap. That was before he moved Rockcraft down to the Southern Yosemite area he called "The Hinterlands," where I guided for him in the early 70s and we put up some of the early routes on Fresno Dome and The Balls with clients.
Chuck went on to guide with Don Jensen and Bob Swift and John Fischer and Smoke Blanchard and me at the Palisade School of Mountaineering in the late 60s and early 70s. Then he moved on to guide in the Tetons every summer for the rest of his life. I always thought it was a strange move for him to leave the sunny Sierra for the stormy Tetons because he so much hated snow and being cold. But I think the livelier social scene there made him happy.
I doubt that those other guys in the brochure ever did much guiding, and I think the school faded away as Doug Tompkins got more into building up The North Face. By 1970 they had a sewing shop in Berkeley near where their outlet store is now, around Fifth and Gilman. I remember Jack Gilbert working there, because he gave me two light sleeping bags for my ski tour the length of the John Muir Trail that spring.
Interesting that the brochure mentions ski touring. An idea ahead of its time, really. It had to wait for the wave of interest in cross country skiing to take off in the early 70s. By the mid-70s Rock Creek Winter Lodge was starting, I was living in a cabin two miles up the canyon, and every spring I was starting to get several weeks of business guiding ski tours -- verging on ski mountaineerng, really -- for a week at a time along the Sierra crest.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Great thread all!
When did Mountain Travel enter the picture?
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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I don't know how Frank and I managed to miss the opening of North Face except that it must have been on a weekend and we thought Yosemite was more interesting. We had been married not quite a year at that point.
As for Mountain Travel, I believe it was started just before we went to Europe in 1969. They were going strong by the spring of 1973, when on the basis of a photo in their catalog and the description of Rolwaling Valley as "the most isolated and traditional Sherpa Valley in Nepal, just opened to tourism for the first time in 20 years", I decided that was the place I was going to do the fieldwork for my doctorate.
A year after seeing that Mountain Travel catalog, I had already spent three months there doing my research and the rest is history. Mountain Travel changed the whole course of my life! They were also, through Al Reed, their director in Kathmandu, the people I turned to when I got the letter from Chris Jones telling me that Frank had been killed. He telexed Leo LeBon in Berkeley who telexed friends in Chamonix to confirm and find out what happened.
Interesting too, how I haven't thought much about all these interconnections until we started putting all this history together on ST. Too busy living life, rushing from one adventure to the other, to even notice them at the time.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Unknown local band?!?
Jan- Very cool connection to MT!
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 9, 2011 - 11:04pm PT
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I am always amazed at all the interconnections.
That is the total brochure I scanned several summers ago and I also have the feeling the CMGS never really got into swing. Tompkins knew how to throw a good opening. The revived Esprit shindig in SF was along the same lines, everyone but our small group from Santa Cruz was dressed to the nines and the Kool Aid was a little more sophisticated. Haanster didn't you work with Harper and TM on the rebuild after the fire?
Unknown band! Gotta love that. I was on a boat in Polynesia many years ago helping a friend with his solo guest on a private charter. Guy told me he had a band. I ask him the name of the group and he reluctantly tells me Police. Naive guido, absent from the mainstream sailing for for years, asks him," what kind of music do you play?" Bluegrass, folk etc. Stuart Copeland looks at me and says. " you and I could become friends." He had just finished a mega million dollar tour.
Juri lived in Jackson Hole and was a good friend of Herbert. Met him only briefly but remember TM always speaking highly of him.
Any trip with Pratt in his old VW would have been an excursion down memory lane.
The first office for Mountain Travel was in my old doctors office on Solano ave in Albany. Don't recall when they actually started but I do remember Steck making the big leap from The Ski Hut to Mountain Travel. Steck was an institution at the Hut and many of us believed he would never leave. Large cast of characters worked for Steck during those years, including: Roper, Pratt, Foott, Marks, Swanson and a host of other lost souls. He was very accommodating in hiring us back when we ran off for a season of climbing. My last three years of high school I got out of school at noon to work at the Hut. Good excuse to go climbing.
Across the street from MT was the Solano Club which was a favorite watering hole for seaman dating back to world war two. My dad always knew where to find his merchant marine buddies when he had to. Didn't require too many years to become popular with the Mountain Travel crowd.
North Face, Mountain Travel, The Ski Hut and Sierra Design were intermingled with many of the same personalities and lots of interaction between the key players and grunts. I would certainly put The Ski Hut at the center on the west coast for the genesis of numerous companies in the formative era of the 60s in the outdoor retail and manufacturing industry.
Jan-those early Mountain Travel brochures were indeed dream machines.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Is this now the name of the guide service Cos runs?
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Guido, I like what you're saying about the intertwined trajectories of all those Berkeley businesses that flowed out of the Ski Hut. In a way that highlights the startup of The North Face as an anomaly, since Tompkins came out of the east coast and cranked it up outside of the Ski Hut circle. Soon enough, though, it got drawn into the Berkeley orbit.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 12:14am PT
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Fair to say the dawn of the trekking industry?
Superb tales Joe!
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2011 - 12:59am PT
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Doug
I remember being at the old Sierra Designs on Tewksbury in Pt Richmond and Susie Tompkins would drop by with some projects for George and Bob's assistance in design and sewing of North Face paraphernalia. Remember, both Marks and Swanson came from the Hut.
Tompkins was a master at delegating and finagling and both Chouinard and Robbins in the latter days of the rag trade benefited from his trials and tribulations at Esprit. Of course this was when everyone discovered that the real money was in clothes and forget the hardware. Really synonymous with the computer industry in many ways. Hardware margins disappeared with volume and software was the holy grail.
I have all the catalogs from the Ski Hut from the late 50s to mid 60s and next time I'm back in Santa Cruz, I will scan them. George Rudolph with his wholesale company, Donner Mountain Corporation, was years ahead of everybody with his introduction of Vibram soled shoes, european climbing gear and beautiful German girls from Sporthaus Shuster that would work at the Hut for a year exchange program. They couldn't play baseball for sh#t but man could they drink.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 01:14am PT
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I have a single Ski Hut catalog somewhere.
That Sierra Designs catalog that was shot in Bodie stands out in my earliest soft goods memory.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2011 - 01:40am PT
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Bodie is a very cool place-I remember being there before it was a state park and you could wander everywhere and anywhere. Amazing that people did not steal the place blind, but thankful it is now protected. I believe the first hydro generating plant in the US was Bodie. If you ever go back, check out the giant circuit breakers in the electrical shack. I bet DR would know what creek the hydro was set up on? Long long run no matter.
Last time in Bodie, the Aussies were working a gold field that borders the state park on the east side. "There's gold in them there hills."
Ever see the movie High Plains Drifter by Eastwood? We ended up with a large amount of wood from the movie set. Nice beams and all, the only problem being that it was painted red. Hennek was living on Mono Lake at the time..............................................
Oh how these threads can diverge.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 01:44am PT
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We are the spiders of destiny...
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Jan 10, 2011 - 12:58pm PT
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Hennek's cabin was cool, even with some of the boards red around the edges. You'd wake in the loft which had an eye-level window out over the last willows and onto the lake, and roll over to see coffee steaming and "baby cakes" sizzling on the wood range.
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Chris Jones
Social climber
Glen Ellen, CA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 08:49pm PT
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Love the snappy Tyrolean hat that Doug Tompkins is sporting - he looks like a candidate for the Eiger circa 1930. About the time the North Face opened, I lived a couple of blocks away - I was a refugee from the Haight Ashbury. Lito Tejada-Flores worked for Doug, or at at least he hung out there quite a bit. He had a tiny studio a short way from the well-remembered pole-mounted glass enclosure on Broadway in which a scantily clad young woman was hired to dance and generally entice passers-by into the associated establishment. In my recollection the North Face at that time was more of a ski shop than a climbing shop - I went to the Ski Hut to buy gear. As others have mentioned, there were very few climbers then in San Francisco - they were in Berkeley.
In regard to Mountain Travel, which was certainly one of the first Adventure Travel businesses, they had a small office in Montclair on, I believe, Mountain Ave., before opening the facility on Solano Ave.
Doug - I recall a great few days ski touring with you on the Eastside just after I was laid off my job on Christams Eve 1970. Primitive gear!
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2011 - 09:17pm PT
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I'm glad Chris brought this tread back on track. Getting back to Doda and the famous piano.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 10, 2011 - 09:32pm PT
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What was the piano used for? Please enlighten those of us who weren't born in time to experience it.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 10, 2011 - 09:45pm PT
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Carol Doda LOL
In 1964 I was there in North Broadway freshman in high school.
The barker outside the place gave me the "look" as in ....
Get lost kid.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2011 - 09:52pm PT
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Mighty, use your imagination or having a slow day try Google.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2011 - 09:54pm PT
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Werner-I bet you were hoping to get a look at some of those old Salathe pins on display at North Face? eh
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 10:35pm PT
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Get a loada Doda! My google definitely runneth over...LOL
Thanks for joining in Chris!
These recollections are pure gold!
Where did Doug Tompkins grow up?
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Dick Erb
climber
June Lake, CA
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Jan 10, 2011 - 11:15pm PT
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Anyone here done any routes on Doda Dome in Tuolumne? Silicone Corner?
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 10, 2011 - 11:29pm PT
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guido
Yeah that North Face shop was the real North face climbing shop.
It was a really cool place.
I used to go to the electronics row down on Market Street mostly back then.
Things sure have changed in the world, mostly for the worst.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 12, 2011 - 10:15pm PT
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Dick- When did that name originate? There has to be a story...
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BooDawg
Social climber
Polynesian Paradise
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Jan 13, 2011 - 12:08am PT
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Hennek's cabin on Mono Lake
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 13, 2011 - 12:28am PT
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Nice!
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2011 - 01:12am PT
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Hey Boo that is cool.
Terry King and I were on our way to Jackson Hole to deliver a sign for Tim at the Calico Pizza. King was a superb wood carver and if Mr King was around good times were in the making. We helped Dennis on the outward trip and again when we returned. The Paiute Tribe paid a couple dollars to Eastwood for the rights to all the wood from the movie set.. Something like 300,000 board feet. Oddly enough there use to be lumber barges on Mono that transported the wood for the construction of Bodie.
On a quick historical side note, Hennek's dad started the restaurant Bodie Mike's after immigrating from LA.
On the outward journey Hennek had a number of Paiutes working with him. On the return they had all bailed out and Dennis was a solo act. King and I were in a little bit of hot water because we had hung a dummy from the center of the bell tower before we left. Dennis's brother was married to the daughter of the chief of the Paiute tribe. Cannot remember how we talked our way out of that mess but most likely Hennek took all the flak.
I remember all the structures were framed at minimum probably 4ft on center since it was a movie set. Some were two stories high. We picked up Hennek's building with a backhoe and and had it on a flatbed trailer. As we drove around the lake things kept falling off. Pretty funny now to visualize it. Dennis did a super job on the "remodel" and it was a great hang out for the East side. One of the upper bunks had about 12 inches above your head anyone sleeping in that bunk had a perennial bump on the head.
Wonderful times, partying, climbing and skiing and when Harper was around we could always stir up a fight or two at June Lake. I had a key to the Tioga gate and I remember taking Galen up there one winter day so he could ski down to the Valley. Turbo Rowell.
I think Dennis spent a good year there. A most spiritual and growing period for Von Hennek.
Hell, I'm starting to sound like Ramblin Jack Elliot.....................
Then there is the story about climbing into the pen of Arnold the #350 pig as a dare. The last person to mess with Arnold had lassoed him from his horse and Arnold dam near broke the riders back. King and I barely got out alive. Dam that was one mean and fast pig.................................
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Jan 13, 2011 - 01:52am PT
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Chris,
I'm glad you remember our little ski tour. I think of it fondly too.
It seemed little enough to me, the winter after skiing the John Muir Trail. Parcher's Camp was a resort up the South Fork of Bishop Creek. I talked myself into a job -- or at least a cabin -- as the winter caretaker. In the footsteps of Clyde, you know. It's kind of squeezed into deep shaded forest in that canyon, though, without much of a view. Nothing like the winter before up the Middle Fork at Cardinal Village, where you could see off toward the crest of the Sierra. And I had no company until you showed up.
We skied three miles up the road and stoked the old Ashley stove. Then we headed on up canyon. That was hard skiing too, even the next mile of twisty, narrow road. It got worse above, where you had to sidehill through willows above South Lake. I had been practicing the fast section down the road, so by the time you arrived I had the timing down to pre-jump the double windbumps. It was tricky at speed, and I'll never forget your classic assessment, "Ski touring is a sport for fit men!"
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Jan 13, 2011 - 07:21am PT
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Back in the days before the Chinese made everything so cheap, Americans actually made their own clothes and gear to save money. I remember buying nylon cloth and thread and a big bag of down from North Face which sold them in bulk. I was even allowed to go back into the sewing room to watch new equipment being made and get some tips on how to handle down and nylon. Having an actual quilt for the bed instead of using our double bag for a quilt seemed like the height of luxury at the time.
One of the differences between a middle class climber and a dirt bag in those days was literally what kind of sleeping bag a person could afford. And of course the patching varied too. It turned out that many of our old army sleeping bags were so old, you couldn't sew them as that would shred the cotton fabric further and no one could afford a lot of large North Face nylon patches with bicycle tire glue. Hence, sleeping bag repair by duct tape was invented.
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Dick Erb
climber
June Lake, CA
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Jan 13, 2011 - 10:50am PT
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Steve, I wasn't around when Doda Dome got its name, but I always thought that some horny climber saw what looked like a giant tit emerging from the forest and named it for the owner of the most famous giant breasts of the time. Of course it could be fun to imagine a more involved and detailed explanation.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 15, 2011 - 03:05pm PT
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There has to be a good story around that name. I wonder who the FA team was?
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storer
Trad climber
Golden, Colorado
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Jan 15, 2011 - 11:08pm PT
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I bought a pair of Sohler skis from the North Face from Tompkins himself, probably 1964. This was a big purchase, probably $45 but that was a lot of money for a poor Berkeley student. It sure didn't leave me enough to see Carol Doda and her twin 44's next door. Previously I only had army skis and then wooden Northlands. The latter were fitted with Touren Zusatz and Marker cable bindings.These allowed you to bypass the rear cable clip and lift your heel for touring. A great setup used on many Sierra tours.
For downhill a lift pass at Signal Hill was $2 and rope-gripper rent was 50 cents. One could camp outside Clair Tappaan Lodge but use the library to study, especially at Spring break. Big splurge was a day at Sugar Bowl, $7.
Best part; The Chinaman's cafe inside the snow sheds with hot coffee after a cold night. Anybody remember that?
The Sohlers were noodles but they were a big step up in class.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 16, 2011 - 02:20pm PT
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More golden nostalgia please!
So was Doug Tomkins a California boy from the outset or did he move to Berkeley from elsewhere?
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Jan 16, 2011 - 03:39pm PT
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I started out on wooden Northlands skis that I earned from baby sitting. The Marker cable bindings were great for cross country but hard on the knees if you took a fall doing downhill. They didn't call them bear traps for nothing.
And I used to get a special discount for locals at Aspen Highlands - $2 a day.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 23, 2011 - 01:50pm PT
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What a deal! Some areas are a hundred times that now. LOL
Who was behind Class 5 equipment? Anyone know the principals involved? I don't think they made it past the mid-seventies but were based around Berkeley if I recall correctly.
I had an outlandishly loud for the time fuscia colored 60-40 jacket that earned me the nickname "The Purple Streak" to go along with Steve Sitzmark on my first outing on skiis with the Udall clan long ago. They were big on greenhorn sacrifice for its entertainment value and I didn't disappoint!
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scuffy b
climber
Three feet higher
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Jan 24, 2011 - 12:20am PT
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The only name I ever heard associated with Class 5 was Justus Bauschinger.
He certainly was involved with design, but i don't know if he was a
principal.
I always believed him to be a Ski Hut/Trailwise alum, along with almost
everyone else in the business.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Jan 24, 2011 - 01:10am PT
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I hitched a ride from Camp 4 to San Francisco with Doug and Susie and camped out in their little apartment. Doug immediately introduced me to a recording he liked by a little known song writer and singer named Bob Dylan. With my background in professional concert violin, I was politely unsure what to make of his music.
Then he hired me to work in his shop mounting skis and doing some of the book keeping. I think the three of us were the main one's running the store at that time.
The drafty board ceiling of the downstairs ski shop was the floor of Carol Duda's stage. It was a bit hard at times to concentrate on setting the dimensions for ski bindings.
We participated that year in the ski exposition at the Cow Palace. The stars of the show were Austrian ski champions Anderer Molterer and Pepi Gramshammer, demonstrating their new short-swings technique on a cocoa rope matted ramp. The third attraction for each show was me climbing up a rope to the center beam of the huge room and then rappelling down.
Then I got a job at Fireman's Fund American Insurance and worked up to managing their big computer floor of IBM main frames. For a while I was working three jobs; night shift at Fireman's Fund, day job as bookkeeper for Gerry Mountain Sports on Grant Avenue, and evenings at The North Face on Columbia Avenue.
That work schedule allowed me to get my own apartment and make the payments on a bright red MG Midget (poor man's Lotus) for the weekend races to Yosemite with Frank's jalopy and Galin's 289 AC Cobra. Galin let me drive up to Tuolumne and back one day just to see what I was missing; until we realized from the smell of hot brakes that I was driving without releasing the hand brake.
I never forgot still owing Doug $117 for a new pair of Tony Sailer honeycomb fiberglass skis that I used for many years after losing track of him. I hate to think what that might be worth if it was an investment instead of a debt.
I lost track of him to walk up the coast with my girl friend and a copy of Euell Gibbon's book 'Stalking the Blue-eyed Scallop'.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2011 - 11:29pm PT
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If I remember correctly-Euell died of Dutch Elm Disease. lol
Royal, I think did a course with Gibbons off San Carlos in the Sea of Cortez at one time.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 29, 2011 - 05:07pm PT
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Bump...and Grind!
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2011 - 10:41pm PT
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Some scenes from Eastwoods flick, "High Plains Drifter," filmed on Mono Lake.
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The Wedge
Boulder climber
Santa Rosa & Bishop, CA
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Jan 30, 2011 - 01:08am PT
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DR.................what a a great post at the beginning of this tread. The DEAD....no ShIz...CLASSIC! and KOOL AID to go with....I love it!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jan 30, 2011 - 01:20am PT
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Guido....was that set at navy beach...? in the second picture it looks like henneks cabin on the shoreline...? rj
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2011 - 01:57am PT
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RJ-not sure what Navy beach is but we had to haul Henneks cabin a distance from the Lago site.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Mar 27, 2011 - 01:19pm PT
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Navy Beach Bump!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Mar 27, 2011 - 02:37pm PT
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That town looks like it could be west of navy beach where the US Navy experimented with torpedoes back in the day...A room mate . who patrolled at june Mt. back when facial hair was permitted , told me a story about Clint Eastwood when that movie was being filmed at Mono Lake..Supposedly Clint was in one of the bars hitting on one of the local married ladies... the bartender , who was bigger than Eastwood , picked Clint up and warned him to mind his manners, then set him back down..rj
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michaelj
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Feb 15, 2012 - 10:47pm PT
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Steve, Since you asked about Doug: He grew up in Millbrook, NY, not far from the Gunks, where he started climbing in his teens. He was into ski racing and spent the austral winter of '62 in Chile, then moved to Tahoe in '63. The guide service came the following year and the NF (in its early form) in late '64.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Feb 15, 2012 - 10:49pm PT
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It would appear Doug discovered a better way to make a few bucks.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Feb 16, 2012 - 12:26am PT
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Bump for fun stuff and classic sharing of memories.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Apr 29, 2012 - 01:24pm PT
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Roots Bump...
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Nov 10, 2012 - 04:16pm PT
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Bump for the early days.
Al Steck had some great things to say about them at the Oakdale Festival this year.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 18, 2013 - 09:28pm PT
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Period Bump...
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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May 25, 2013 - 01:07am PT
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Cool to see Mort Hempel's name in the OP.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 25, 2013 - 03:02pm PT
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Holiday Fun Bump!
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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Dec 25, 2013 - 03:12pm PT
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I've got a nice photo of Juris Krisjanson climbing in the Tetons. I'll have to dig it out.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 25, 2013 - 06:59pm PT
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Electric koolaid ?
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