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David Plotnikoff

Mountain climber
Emerald Hills, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 2, 2010 - 07:23pm PT
I've somehow ended up with more potential poundage on the rack: A short set of BD slung hexes. The accessory cord on them now looks short and a little sketchy. I'm going to replace with Bluewater 5.5 mm Spectra webbing.

So how to tie these off? With long runs of Bluewater 1-inch tubular nylon, I always go with a water knot (ring knot, oldtimer) plus two fisherman's knots to back up. Because the water knot dresses nice and flat and pretty. And it gets tighter the more it's fallen on.

But conventional wisdom is saying, "Dave, you're not so bright. Use a triple fisherman's knot to resling chocks."

Remember this is flat, slippery webbing, not round accessory cord. Which way would you go?

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 2, 2010 - 08:00pm PT
Spectra is nothing but EHMW polyethylene (Extremely high molecular weight milk bottle material)

About the only thing slipperier is Teflon!

DONT! tie knots in it!







































Yer gonna die!

Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Dec 2, 2010 - 08:01pm PT
Double fisherman's works for me and is a better knot for webbing like 9/16" supertape. Nice streamlined knot and the industry standard all the way back to when nuts were pebbles. Lots of choices in cordage too!

I avoid the spectra thinness personally. Super-strong fibers can work harden and behave strangely under duress.
Disaster Master

Social climber
Born in So-Cal, left my soul in far Nor-Cal.
Dec 2, 2010 - 08:10pm PT
I would use spectra CORD 5.5mm instead. If the holes are the older large diameter, use surgical tubing, threaded through the holes in the hex to take up the extra space. the cord goes through the tubing. Tie with a triple fisherman's knott,

JBC

Trad climber
Tacoma, WA
Dec 2, 2010 - 08:31pm PT
Mountain Tools will do sewn slings for $7.95 ea if you have the larger holes. With smaller ones I believe they use the 5.5mm cord.

Jim
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Dec 2, 2010 - 08:48pm PT
Rock your hexes old school with double fisherman knotted perlon. If you insist on Spectra, get it bar tacked and bar tacked WELL.

Another Jim
Kevin C

climber
Ridgway, Co
Dec 2, 2010 - 09:14pm PT
I've used 5.5 spectra cord, Bluewater recommends a triple fisherman's with that stuff. if i did it again i would probably use blue pro-cord.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
SoCal
Dec 2, 2010 - 09:22pm PT
Retire the hexes and use dynamic camming devices for cracks. Saves a load of time. (Friends, Camalots, Dragons, Tricams, etc.)

I used hexes since '74. Then a fellow that could climb better than me said, "Why are you doing that?"

I had my realization. They just handicap you.

If I were to resling my hexes I would only use perlon with a double fisherman's knot. I've heard spectra can come untied.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Dec 2, 2010 - 09:36pm PT

Get rid of the spectra & dyneema.

go with nylon. Period.
froodish

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 2, 2010 - 09:41pm PT
I got a few of mine sewn with webbing (12mm Ultratape) a while back and like it a lot better than thick cord. More flexible and takes up less space on a racking 'biner.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Dec 2, 2010 - 09:42pm PT
x2^^ nylon or perlon and did someone say to knottt use hexes??? whaaaattt????
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 2, 2010 - 09:58pm PT
save weight and time. leave hexes at home. Life is too short to deal with them.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Dec 2, 2010 - 11:08pm PT
NEVER!!!:-D Aint no way,,,no how,,uh-uh.....Crazy talk man!!!
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Dec 2, 2010 - 11:18pm PT
How's that polyethylene Spectra fiber with respect to UV rays?

A big plus for perlon cord is the mantle shields the core to a certain extent.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 2, 2010 - 11:23pm PT
How's that polyethylene Spectra fiber with respect to UV rays?

About the same as a milk jug or Nalgene. Maybe a bit worse.
MisterE

Social climber
Bouncy Tiggerville
Dec 2, 2010 - 11:25pm PT
Dare I say it?















































LEAVE THE COWBELLS ON THE FARM!!111669



squishy

Mountain climber
sacramento
Dec 2, 2010 - 11:46pm PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4royOLtvmQ
David Plotnikoff

Mountain climber
Emerald Hills, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2010 - 12:16am PT
Go to all cams?

No. No way. No how.

Look: I got a fever. And the only prescription is MORE COWBELL.
Captain...or Skully

Big Wall climber
leading the away team, but not in a red shirt!
Dec 3, 2010 - 12:21am PT
Folks re-sling those things? Who'd have thunk it?
I have no idea how old my hex slings are. Hey, wanna go climbin'?
mongrel

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Dec 3, 2010 - 12:26am PT
Any kind of flat stuff, I use double fisherman's. But I prefer cord for stoppers and hexes, and tie them with a triple fisherman's with minimum 1" tail beyond the knot after it is tightened with pliers and by weighting and bouncing.
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