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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 9, 2010 - 10:52pm PT
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1) Energy, 32 gal of gas = Energy, 1 man year (or, 1 slave year)
Source: (a) William Catton (b) basic physics
2) A 200 lb man rapping stresses an anchor system 200lbs. A 200 lb man being lowered stresses a pulley anchor system 400 lbs. (minus friction effects)
Source: (a) statics
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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#2 is why the American Triangle is stupid.
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nevenneve
Trad climber
Back somewhere flat, dammit
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Who cares how much he weighs. If the fool is rapping he's stressing everything in the immediate area. Specially if some broke ass mofo start beatboxing and slides his hat down in front of the two of em. Fo sure I know better than to get into that slave jive you started on. You a bustah aint yah.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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I have a flatulence problem but it's nowhere near 32 gallons a year!
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John Moosie
climber
Beautiful California
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true dat. according to your previous girlfriends, its closer to 3200 gallons per year. haha..
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2010 - 02:04pm PT
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Imagine it: You're a contestant on a game show and you're presented with three closed doors. Just like on Let's Make a Deal. Behind one sits a new car, the other two conceal goats. Pick the correct door and the car is yours. Imagine further that you have chosen Door #1. Your host then opens Door #2, revealing a goat. He now gives you a chance to switch your bet from Door #1 to the remaining Door #3. Should you switch? The correct answer is Yes. But most people will blow it - relying on their intuition - and say it doesn't matter.
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howlostami
Trad climber
Southern Tier, NY
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Nov 11, 2010 - 02:07pm PT
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"Imagine it: You're a contestant on a game show and you're presented with three closed doors. Just like on Let's Make a Deal. Behind one sits a new car, the other two conceal goats. Pick the correct door and the car is yours. Imagine further that you have chosen Door #1. Your host then opens Door #2, revealing a goat. He now gives you a chance to switch your bet from Door #1 to the remaining Door #3. Should you switch? The correct answer is Yes. But most people will blow it - relying on their intuition - and say it doesn't matter."
I hate this question! No matter how many times I hear it or get an explanation it just won't click! :) I think stupidity has more inertia than intellect...
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monolith
climber
Berkeley, CA
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Nov 11, 2010 - 02:26pm PT
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I don't get it either(even after reading the answer). Switching or not should not matter.
But I also think the amp with the volume knob that goes to 11 is louder than the one that goes to 10.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2010 - 02:55pm PT
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A trick you could use for cutting through this shortcoming of intuition in this case is to substitute 10 doors or 100 doors for the three and then play it out. Hopefully then - after all these goats have been revealed - it should be more clear that you should switch to the last remaining door. In order to maximize your chances for getting the car.
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nevenneve
Trad climber
Back somewhere flat, dammit
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Nov 11, 2010 - 03:21pm PT
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You do know that if you have a campfire the wood doesn't burn. Believe whatever you want I'm still pretty sure the outside of my marshmallow changed color and the heat from it melted the chocolate.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 11, 2010 - 03:39pm PT
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Ah, you're thinking ahead - after the fossil fuels are gone - I like that!
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nevenneve
Trad climber
Back somewhere flat, dammit
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Nov 11, 2010 - 03:56pm PT
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Actually I broke my meditation, on deriving a synthetic substance with the qualities of my current drug cocktail of choice being administered perpetually far below the atomic level, to get a snack and noticed this toward the top of my screen. More accurately I was watching the 40 ft. flames coming off my brush pile today and was reminded of that little nugget.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Nov 11, 2010 - 03:57pm PT
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Darn it Tami! Now I have to clean coffee off my screen and keyboard. What a mess...
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2010 - 02:39pm PT
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re: sweet science
"Sweet science" is slang for boxing. I guess pugilism wasn't enough.
EDIT
The reference is to the European tradition in which "gentlemen" were schooled in the "sciences" of sword, gun, and fistfighting. Fisticuffs, being the least lethal, was called the "Sweet Science".
The good ol' days.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 26, 2010 - 03:00pm PT
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A 200 lb man rapping stresses an anchor system 200lbs. A 200 lb man being lowered stresses a pulley anchor system 400 lbs. Wanna bet on that? Static or dynamic force?
The minimum force exerted on the system, in this case, would be about 0.9 kN. That is 90 kg x 9.8 m/sec/sec. The maximum force may be a great deal more.
Paging rgold, and other knowledgeable physicists.
Speaking of goats, there's a well-known charity the name of which escapes me, which does international development work. One of their promotions right now is to buy two goats for families in 'developing' countries, as a way to let them be self-sufficient.
The problem with goats and sheep, though, is that they eat everything, including the plant's roots. Cattle just eat what's sticking up, the foliage, leaving the roots to regrow. Goats don't, which is one reason why the fertile crescent isn't so fertile any more.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Nov 26, 2010 - 03:05pm PT
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MIghty Anders, you and High Fructose Corn Spirit deserve each other, just saying.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2010 - 03:07pm PT
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MH-
Your response is vague. I think you missed the larger point. Your grade on the reponse: C-.
Oh, on issues of either Statics or Dynamics, one good mechanical engineer on average equals three equivalent physicists.
Interesting sheep and goat fact, though.
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EDIT
Peter, I just don't know what you're talking about. ;) Assuming it's complimentary! LOL!
P.S. Cool sliding doberman vid.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Nov 26, 2010 - 04:17pm PT
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one good mechanical engineer on average equals three equivalent physicists
there is no "equivalent physicist" for a mechanical engineer...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mclp9QmCGs
In many undergraduate physics texts the event is presented as an example of elementary forced resonance with the wind providing an external periodic frequency that matched the natural structural frequency (even though the real cause of the bridge's failure was aeroelastic flutter[1]).
Wikipedia
you can delete the thread now...
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2010 - 04:23pm PT
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Hahahah, I knew you'd be the first to post to THAT one! Touché!
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Nov 26, 2010 - 04:24pm PT
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Interesting Facts
For Your Warehouse of Useless Knowledge
1,525,000,000 miles of telephone wire a strung across the U.S.
101 Dalmatians and Peter Pan (Wendy) are the only two Disney cartoon features with both parents that are present and don't die throughout the movie.
111,111,111 x 111,111,111 = 12,345,678,987,654,321
12 newborns will be given to the wrong parents daily.
123,000,000 cars are being driven down the U.S's highways.
160 cars can drive side by side on the Monumental Axis in Brazil, the world's widest road.
166,875,000,000 pieces of mail are delivered each year in the U.S.
27% of U.S. male college students believe life is "A meaningless existential hell."
315 entries in Webster's Dictionary will be misspelled.
5% of Canadians don't know the first 7 words of the Canadian anthem, but know the first 9 of the American anthem.
56,000,000 people go to Major League baseball each year.
7% of Americans don't know the first 9 words of the American anthem, but know the first 7 of the Canadian anthem.
85,000,000 tons of paper are used each year in the U.S.
99% of the solar systems mass is concentrated in the sun.
A 10-gallon hat barely holds 6 pints.
A cat has 32 muscles in each ear.
A cockroach can live several weeks with its head cut off.
A company in Taiwan makes dinnerware out of wheat, so you can eat your plate.
A cow produces 200 times more gas a day than a person.
A dime has 118 ridges around the edge.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2010 - 07:05pm PT
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The soldiers in the pic are Russian, the pic was taken near Chernobyl.
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111,111,111 x 111,111,111 = 12,345,678,987,654,321
Very interesting, Norton.
EDIT 4:15p
"Now watch modern scientist squirm over that statement ..."
That's the funniest thing I've read all day, thanks Werner.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 26, 2010 - 07:10pm PT
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A cockroach can live several weeks with its head cut off.
Proof that the soul is the real life force of the living entity and not matter.
Now watch modern scientist squirm over that statement ......
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 26, 2010 - 07:14pm PT
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A cockroach can live several weeks with its head cut off. Perhaps we should give it a try with Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, or someone of the sort.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Nov 27, 2010 - 09:49am PT
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hey there say, tami.... ohmy.... in south texas, i loved having the goat... goats, in fact... we had three, once...
my now-ex, he never let me drive the ol' car, anyway....
and, the goat DID keep the texas wild grass down, for sure--and it could get waste high... (the grass, not the goat... though, the goats did grow a might, at that)... :)
and, a good goat is sometimes hard to find.... my now-ex, he always could find a cheap car and fix it up.... his family was mechanics, and his DAD was THE best 'en el valle'...
in the valley (which, really was NOT a valley, but the called they area, such)...
sure do miss the goats, they 'baa' nice, during the day
and cheer things up, though, they are a mite hard on the ol' gardens, and the car, did stay out of it...
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 28, 2010 - 12:42am PT
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So the goat charity, or one of them anyway, is World Vision Canada. Quite a large and effective one, so presumably the idea bears scrutiny. You can "shop" on their website, and "give" people in developing countries goats, rabbits, alpacas, hens, guinea pigs or a cow, depending on country etc. The idea being that this is the basis for economic self-sufficiency. https://catalogue.worldvision.ca/Gifts/Forms/Category.aspx?name=animals
So if you want to get someone's goat for the holidays...
Except that they don't ship in North America, so locker will be looking in vain under his tree.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2010 - 09:16pm PT
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re: prayer, prayer effectiveness
British monarchs ought to be very long-lived, because millions of people all over the world daily intone the heartfelt mantra "God Save the Queen" or "God Save the King". Yet research (yes, scientific research) showed the monarchs of Britain don't live as long as other members of the wealthy and pampered aristocratic class.
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It takes 3,000 volts to arc 1 mm of dry air.
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Though a tapir looks pigish, it is more closely related to the horse. No sh'it.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2010 - 11:05pm PT
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Here, for you Dingus:
He who shall teach the Child to Doubt
The rotting Grave shall ne'er get out.
He who respects the Infant's Faith
Triumphs over Hell and Death
William Blake
High Stakes in Auguries of Innocence
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A Presidential Commission moved dramatically today, suggesting a raise in the retirement age from 65 to 69. By 2075. Draconian!
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2010 - 04:09pm PT
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Arsenic sits right beneath phosphorus in the periodic table of the elements and shares many of its chemical properties. Indeed, that chemical closeness is what makes it toxic - allowing it to slip easily into a cell’s machinery where it then gums things up, like bad oil in a car engine.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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what if you switch & he asks you again if you would like to chance your pick? & again ----
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2010 - 11:26am PT
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Look how "true" causality runs in our solar system:
The colors of the rainbow are never seen out of order. The consistency of causality (cause n effect dynamics) never disappoints.
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EDIT
If the colors WERE ever seen out of sequence - say, for instance, some Tuesday morning - either in a rainbow or in a camara picture - would it not throw the entire bastion of science out of whack? and give many a passionate scientist or engineer a heart attack or stroke?
But this never happens. Causality runs true. Reality runs true. Natural law runs true.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2010 - 11:49am PT
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re: Thomas Jefferson
He died at Monticello on July 4, 1826, fifty years to the day after the colonies issued that stirring document written by Jefferson, called the Declaration of Independence. It was denounced by conservatives worldwide: Monarchy, aristocracy and state-supported religion - that's what conservatives were defending then.
Source: Carl Sagan, Demon Haunted World, p426
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We've come a long way, baby.
But why can't today's conservatives take a lesson from their history? I don't know, it IS an enigma.
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Stewart Johnson
climber
yo mama
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Dec 12, 2010 - 12:05pm PT
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we had to pay 100 $ each for goats on the k2 approach.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2010 - 01:26pm PT
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The country of Spain translates more of the world's literature and learning into Spanish every year than the entire Arab world has translated into Arabic since the ninth century.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Potemkin Village
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 9, 2013 - 07:46pm PT
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High tech companies like Google and Microsoft measure the cognitive abilities of prospective employees. For instance...
Why are manhole covers round?
(If you don't know the answer to this question, you're not smart enough to work at Microsoft.)
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WBraun
climber
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(If you don't know the answer to this question, you're not smart enough to work at Microsoft.)
No wonder Microsoft sucks.
They measure "smart" and not intelligence ......
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jstan
climber
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 9, 2010 - 07:52pm PT
1) Energy, 32 gal of gas = Energy, 1 man year (or, 1 slave year)
Source: (a) William Catton (b) basic physics
2) A 200 lb man rapping stresses an anchor system 200lbs. A 200 lb man being lowered stresses a pulley anchor system 400 lbs. (minus friction effects)
Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Nov 9, 2010 - 08:00pm PT
#2 is why the American Triangle is stupid.
Following all the other knowlegeable people on ST, I would ignore pedagogy and say nothing, were it not for the chance Chaz(were he to climb), might get killed.
Chaz does not understand how the American Triangle increases force on the anchor.
First, HFCS' text is correct but fails to explain force is increased in a lower because there are two ropes pulling down. If there is no friction over the biner, lowering doubles the force. In my tensile machine days I measured in static mode about a 30% reduction in the force on the rope to the belayer. In that case force is multiplied by 1.7.
Now to explain how the Triangle multiplies total force on an anchor, we have to use vector sums. A diagram with the two anchors at the two upper corners of the rectangle.
Shown here is 200# person rappelling from a triangle in which the rappel rope is equidistant from the anchors, as would happen when the triangle tie-in is not knotted. The total force is equal to the vector sum of the horizontal and vertical components shown by arrows. The vertical component on each of the anchors is 1/2 the weight of the person, 100#. Let's say the angle shown is ø( not zero here but theta, some angle determined by the slop in the Triangle.) From geometry we know the total force on the rightmost anchor
=100/sin(ø)
So let's plot that force on one of the anchors as function of ø from 1º to 90º.
OK. So if the triangle is really deep there is relatively little force multiplication. On the other hand if the triangle is really tight the force on each anchor is multiplied to 5700#. Nearly three tons.
Chaz, if you construct an American Triangle
use a lot of sling
Also to get redundancy use two separate slings, one to each of the anchors and use slings of equal length. If you want to adjust the force between the anchors you need to have trig tables with you.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Oct 10, 2013 - 01:14am PT
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"In your earthly dimension, facts take place second by second but the moment they have happened, they become memory-beliefs and memories are not always accurate"
Jesus
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 10, 2013 - 01:18am PT
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Good stuff John (jstan).
We got taught the same stuff for anchors ......
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Oct 10, 2013 - 01:29am PT
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use two separate slings, one to each of the anchors and use slings of equal length.
What if one anchor point is a foot higher than the other one?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 10, 2013 - 02:41am PT
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Nothing you can know that isn't known
Imagine that
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Oct 10, 2013 - 02:45am PT
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The average human being has one ball and one tit. Almost.
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jstan
climber
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Oct 10, 2013 - 11:18am PT
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What if one anchor point is a foot higher than the other one?
Blu:
I don't think Chaz has told us god is looking out for his ass. So I thought I needed to give him some help in understanding the world in which he actually lives.
As I understand it, you on the other hand, are good to go.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 10, 2013 - 11:22am PT
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So I thought I needed to give him some help in understanding the world in which he actually lives.
Jstan, he has his goats for the metaphysical side of things, but I'm sure he also
appreciates your input.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 20, 2016 - 03:46pm PT
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re: canker sores and strawberries
"The tricky thing about allergies is that they can appear and disappear throughout your life. So while you may have grown out of that skin rash you used to get from eating strawberries it may return in the form of canker sores. Especially if you suffered from skin allergies, hay fever or hives as a child, you should consider food allergies as a possible cause of your canker sores."
http://www.mycankersoretreatment.com/can-canker-sores-be-caused-by-food-allergies/
Anyone here inclined by personal experience to link strawberries to canker sores?
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fails to explain force is increased in a lower because there are two ropes pulling down
Since I set it up, I figured I'd leave the detail to another.
I measured in static mode about a 30% reduction in the force on the rope to the belayer. In that case force is multiplied by 1.7.
Good to know. (Sounds about right, as well.)
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Still blows my mind to take it in...
Energy, 32 gal of gas = Energy, 1 man year (or, 1 slave year)
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