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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 10, 2010 - 09:28pm PT
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Cartoonist R. Crumb brought us Flake Foont, Mr. Natural, Zap Comix, Fritz the Cat, Keep on Truckin', and a gazillion odd ball other things. He was always interesting and outrageous. Lately he played it straight with an illustrated Bible, of all things. Very curious guy . . .
JL
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 10, 2010 - 09:30pm PT
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Did you see the profile film?
Equally weird.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Hagerman, ID
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Sep 10, 2010 - 09:40pm PT
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Ah! Yes & Yes to Largo and Piton Ron!
The movie was an incredible portrait of some of the most bizare stuff I had ever seen.
R. Crumb is one "sick dude."
Love a lot of his work!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Sep 10, 2010 - 09:40pm PT
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Brilliant artist and certainly the cartoonist of the sixties!
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland
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Sep 10, 2010 - 09:41pm PT
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one of America's best illustrators
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richross
Trad climber
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Sep 10, 2010 - 09:48pm PT
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Sep 10, 2010 - 09:50pm PT
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After doing the Genesis he was approached to do the Koran, he said he was considering it- than would be an interesting twist.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 10, 2010 - 10:12pm PT
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I really liked his work in the illustrated Kafka bio!
Ricky, he was / is a contenporary of Gilbert Shelton (freak bros,Wonder Warthog), Bill Grifith (Zippy the pinhead), S Clay Wilson (checker demon, cap'n pissgum, etc) and cohort as well.
He worked with Ralph Bakshi (new adventures of mighty mouse) on the Fritz the cat movies ( among other things, the first x rated toons) though I think he distanced himself from that project.
"Remember what Tommy Toilet sez, "don't forget to wipe your Ass!""
-show of hands, how many tacoids had, that, poster in the 70's?
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TwistedCrank
climber
Ideeho-dee-do-dah-day boom-chicka-boom-chicka-boom
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Sep 10, 2010 - 10:18pm PT
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Weird is good.
We all know that.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 10, 2010 - 10:18pm PT
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In the spirit of this thread Tami, I hope you're playing it safe with that "seminal in the annals" stuff.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Sep 10, 2010 - 10:20pm PT
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Hey Piton Ron - what was the name of the movie? I saw it years ago and it made quite the impression. Not sure why, but the name of the movie didn't stick.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 10, 2010 - 10:38pm PT
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"Crumb" was the name of the film. weren't his brothers a trip?
Right around the same time (slightly before?) was the documentary, "comic book confidential" which had interviews with Shelton, Griffith, maybe even Jack Kirby, and Stan Lee, as well.
When I saw it, in Bezerkly 20 odd years ago,it was preceded by a 'no smoking in the theatre' psa (remember those?) that featured film maker John Waters...
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Phantom X
Trad climber
Honeycomb Hideout
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Sep 10, 2010 - 10:41pm PT
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Let us never forget his musical accomplishments with the Cheap Suit Serenaders.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 10, 2010 - 11:00pm PT
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Hmmm, tech difficulties with iPhone, maybe when I get to electricity and a computer.....
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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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Sep 10, 2010 - 11:09pm PT
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I checked out a couple of R. Crumbs books from the library of all places- The librarian gave me some pretty funny looks as she was checking them out to me. I was thinking that they would be funny but it was not hardly- what it was, was really dark and depressing
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DanaB
climber
Philadelphia
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Sep 11, 2010 - 12:06am PT
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PR it took me a few minnits to put that Seminal In The Annals note together.
Well, yeah, as you get older it does take a bit longer.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Hagerman, ID
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Sep 11, 2010 - 12:14am PT
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Yes!
R. Crumb humor and cartoons mostly reflected his "dark side."
Strange, that so many of us find those images "interesting."
What is wrong with us??
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Prod
Trad climber
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Sep 11, 2010 - 12:44am PT
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Into big butts way before Sir Mix Alot.
The movie was Crumb, I saw it years ago and remember his brother as a hoarder. Odd realism.
Prod.
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Kalimon
Trad climber
Ridgway, CO
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Sep 11, 2010 - 12:44am PT
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Crumb's influence is inestimable.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Sep 11, 2010 - 01:03am PT
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Thanks Prod. I knew the name would be a 'no duh' for me. :)
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Donnici
Social climber
Rosevillian
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Sep 11, 2010 - 01:19am PT
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His brother was very strange. If I remember correctly he swallowed string and let pass through his body. I am usually wrong though.
Might have been mentioned in previous posts, but Crumb also dod the Cheap Thrills album cover.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Sep 11, 2010 - 02:57am PT
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one of his brothers did the string cleansing thing,
the other brother eventually committed suicide
if there were ever an example of an artist unable and unwilling to repress their inner most feelings and thoughts at such a primal level, R. Crumb is one, a fascinating individual who somehow copes with his life, perhaps his artistic success saved him
the documentary Crumb 1994 directed by Terry Zwigoff is in the Netflix list... it is pretty amazing.
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flakyfoont
Trad climber
carsoncity nv
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Sep 11, 2010 - 03:13am PT
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unfortunately, i lost my zap comics in a D dorm fire, all my albums too.
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krahmes
Social climber
Stumptown
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Sep 11, 2010 - 05:21am PT
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I remember going to the record store in the late 70’s, and there over there to the side of the pipe and bong section, atop the glass case would be a three copies of Freak. I had no point of reference to my small town West Coast life, but I knew Freak represented something strange, that was near and afoot. Went and saw the Genesis drawings at an art museum a month or so ago and it was a drag, I suppose in a way the sparse crowd was not conducive to my furtive glances at the more risqué verses depicting certain actions of certain women. An olding man in an art museum forgetting the thirteen year old in the head shop; nostalgia it’s a bitch.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 11, 2010 - 11:45am PT
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what it was, was really dark and depressing
Even 'Tales of Despair' ?
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bestill
Trad climber
s. ca.
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Sep 11, 2010 - 11:46am PT
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I always thought it true that Zap delivered like "Armando delivers his stilleto" and still do.
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2010 - 11:47am PT
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He was not only tripy but accurate, evocative and w/ crazy skillz as an illustrator. You know it's Crumb the moment you see it.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Sep 11, 2010 - 12:12pm PT
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Over the years there have been reprints of the early "Zap" ComiX available at the shops specializing in collectible comics (and ComiX). I recall seeing my then-12 year old son sitting at a picnic table in Joshua Tree laughing his a$$ off over a "comic book," when I approached the table he attempted to hide it, thinking I wouldn't approve. When I simply commented "Oh, Zap! Got any Furry Freak Brothers there too?" he breathed a big sigh of relief, and said his Mother didn't really approve of such stuff.
I always loved "Fat Freddy's Cat!"
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Sep 11, 2010 - 12:39pm PT
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I can't believe how much of his work I identify with.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Sep 11, 2010 - 12:46pm PT
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 11, 2010 - 01:21pm PT
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Always? Largo?
I believe this is the work of Kelly / Mouse, though the influence is unmistakeable.
Or maybe it is, Crumbby proxy?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Sep 11, 2010 - 02:17pm PT
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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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Sep 11, 2010 - 02:40pm PT
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"kickin asses is hard work"
Mr. Natural
and to tie the climbing into it I thought that Mr. Natural on the apron was about the cleanest crack i ever saw- like God split the rock and then walked away
I was reading that R. Crumb did some LSD and he said that for six months he lost his sense of his ego--He did not recommend this for others but in retrospect he felt it was a good thing for him- he said he came up with some of his most famous characters during this time.
keep on truckin
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 11, 2010 - 02:54pm PT
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Stoned agin is a classic.
Who did Cap'm Pissgums?
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 11, 2010 - 03:58pm PT
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S Clay Wilson
OT: Ever see the old Mtn Gazettes wherein S Clay teamed up with Sheriden Anderson and Checker Demon climbed with Von Mabel?
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Sep 11, 2010 - 06:06pm PT
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I guess Crumb left the USA feeling that he had offended too many people to stay here....?
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the kid
Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
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Sep 11, 2010 - 06:18pm PT
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classic old school..
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Sep 11, 2010 - 06:23pm PT
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Aliester; If you ask that question, you never saw the last stuff he created attcking both Jews and blacks! Very NON PC, to say the least.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Sep 11, 2010 - 06:31pm PT
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I don't have any in my posession; I found it on the Internet several years ago, and didn't save it to this computer. I wouldn't post it here anyways--too many people I consider friends would be highly offended by the content.
The stuff was highly graphic in it's violence content, and somewhat pornographic. Not suitable for SuperTaco, IMHO!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Sep 11, 2010 - 06:32pm PT
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just post the links...
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Sep 11, 2010 - 07:12pm PT
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Ed- I just tried to find the links by memory, but they are no longer active...probably just as well.
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mark miller
Social climber
Reno
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Sep 11, 2010 - 08:04pm PT
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The movie is brutal and his yoga brother pulling the sheet rope out of his ass is a little hard to forget....... regretfully
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 11, 2010 - 09:51pm PT
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You know, Mark? I honestly don't remember that. I wonder if I surpressd it? Sometimes I think I don't acknowledge sheiit that is too over the top (making 'CID survvable, perhaps?) I remember the knotted sheets... Maybe cause I awready knew people did that? What I remember was him saying that he "had to go see my public" ie panhandling.
My impression was that he, was the more together brother, as opposed to the der, suicidal virgin brother. But what do I know?
I remember coming out of the movie with my own brother, who described the movie as "disturbing"...
Cheers
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Brian More
climber
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
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Sep 11, 2010 - 10:08pm PT
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Killer, all his stuff, his trippy brothers (seen in the doc). I especially dig the "Heroes of the Blues..."
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Sep 11, 2010 - 10:35pm PT
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Crumb is a pillar of normality compared to S. Clay Wilson. That's one sick mofo.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 11, 2010 - 10:38pm PT
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A-fucqing-men!
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2010 - 11:09pm PT
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I think many of Crumb's females were modeled off this girl's mom.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Sep 11, 2010 - 11:11pm PT
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Aleister-
Comix posted by Lovegasoline is what I referred to.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Sep 11, 2010 - 11:21pm PT
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Laughing or sweating we were.....
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Sep 12, 2010 - 12:39am PT
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His style has and will inspire artists forever!!:)
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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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Sep 12, 2010 - 01:05am PT
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[photoid=169767]
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 12, 2010 - 01:53am PT
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Largo that guy must be dead c'os he's not sportin' wood.
Maybe he was still in shock?
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bmacd
climber
Relic Hominid
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Sep 12, 2010 - 02:00am PT
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that guy be lucky if he had any wood left
Largo you've really hit one out of the park, er ah, comfort zone, with this thread
Supertopo Journal of Science and climbing, delivered to your headspace, daily, you will not be disappointed.
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gonamok
climber
aging malcontent
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Sep 14, 2010 - 11:07pm PT
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Ive always loved R Crumb, erstwhile hero of the underground comics era. Nothing is sacred to Crumb and i like that. Some of his stuff literally makes me laugh out loud.
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John Morton
climber
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Sep 17, 2010 - 12:40am PT
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I have always loved Crumb's illustrative style, certainly the best of the era. I mostly overlook the misogynistic stuff, but I am very interested in his views of cultural and (especially) music history. Crumb is a major collector of 78rpm records, and has issued numerous compilations from his collection. The above mentioned book about old blues and jazz is a great deal at $13+, hardbound and including a great disc of stuff from the Crumb archive of recordings.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=crumb+blues&x=0&y=0
My favorite Crumb book may be Odds and Ends, which is just miscellaneous casual and commercial art jobs: small town newspaper blurbs, business cards, invitations to potluck suppers, gig announcements, portraits of favorite historical musicians, etc.
http://www.amazon.com/Odds-Ends-R-Crumb/dp/1582341362/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1284697151&sr=1-1
John
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 17, 2010 - 01:21am PT
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I've seen examples of the cards he created for Hallmark™ early in his career, but they don't seem to be jumping up on google right now....
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Sep 17, 2010 - 02:16am PT
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Did Angelfood make the Hallmark cards?
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Sep 17, 2010 - 11:25am PT
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I love Robert's work, Mr. Natural and Flakey Foont some of the faves. I've got a few up in the archives that I got while in junior high (early '70s). It was new stuff back then.
The unwanted publicity from the movie "Crumb" led Robert to pack up the family and move to France.
His ability to draw his ideal fantasy version of the female form is remarkable, what a great artist.
I remember one episode where Flakey hooks up with a female sasquatch and finds life in the woods to be pretty darn good.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Sep 17, 2010 - 01:04pm PT
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Riding my bike the other day, I saw Maxon walking down the street here in SF. he's the Crumb brother, who in the movie sat on a bed of nails, and pulled down the woman's pants in Safeway. what an outrageous scene that was!
he used to panhandle, sitting full lotus on the sidewalk, until he started selling his drawings 5 or 6 years ago. was the 1st time I've seen him in quite a few years now.
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Jim Herrington
Mountain climber
New York, NY
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Sep 17, 2010 - 01:41pm PT
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Here's Crumb and I in NYC at the gallery opening for his new book, "The Book of Genesis", earlier this year.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Oct 17, 2012 - 10:04pm PT
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I never saw this thread - thanks mousie
uRDMan
Sheeit - nobody posted these?
Shame, shame, shame
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Oct 17, 2012 - 10:29pm PT
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Oct 17, 2012 - 10:31pm PT
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Don't overlook Lenore
We don't show Romney no fuukin' badges
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Oct 17, 2012 - 10:32pm PT
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Take 2
Life goes on and things change
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 17, 2012 - 10:57pm PT
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The Checkered Demon was a route put up in Washington at that time by my ol'
bud Lionheart who has posted here a few times. He was a veritable Mr Natural.
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stunewberry
Trad climber
Spokane, WA
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Oct 17, 2012 - 11:04pm PT
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Here's my tribute to the good Mr. Crumb. Done for an cross-country ski newsletter I used to do.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Oct 17, 2012 - 11:18pm PT
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^Skittering along and waxing eloquent on religion.
Thanks stunewberry and for anyone looking at this with 65 year old eyes, don't forget to click to enlarge.
EDIT: BTW Tom Frost (now that's a name to remember), no need to apologize I think Crumb would have liked it.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 17, 2012 - 11:23pm PT
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Now you tell me!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 17, 2012 - 11:28pm PT
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Or 56 yr old eyes....
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Oct 17, 2012 - 11:34pm PT
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the eyes have it today, I spose - just don't get any fluid in 'em
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