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Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 3, 2010 - 01:54am PT
Will we now get back to the only real climbing = multi pitch climbing?

everything else is just 'practice'?


I think it was Vic Copeland's piece or maybe Mick Ryan who wrote about bouldering being a fad.


Has it come full circle yet? Or objectively speaking is there more dollars spent on bouldering gear and comps than on 'regular' climbing?


Just an evening thought.


what do you think?

MisterE

Social climber
Bouncy Tiggerville
Sep 3, 2010 - 02:11am PT
Will we now get back to the only real climbing = multi pitch climbing?

Pot-stirrer.

Climbing is technical movement over your chosen medium: be it pebbles, large rock formations (free or aid), clip-ups, chalk cliffs, buildings or ice.

Division tears the community.
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Sep 3, 2010 - 02:31am PT
I boulder because I cant find partners to "climb" with.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Sep 3, 2010 - 02:35am PT
It may have left Us....
deepnet

Boulder climber
CA
Sep 3, 2010 - 02:41am PT
thats like comparing a poem to a novel
PhilG

Trad climber
The Circuit, Tonasket WA
Sep 3, 2010 - 02:45am PT
Credit: PhilG

Let me think about that question.
Porkchop_express

Trad climber
Springdale UT
Sep 3, 2010 - 02:57am PT
wow. great picture...that says it all.

Personally I enjoy each manifestation of climbing for what it is and the enjoyment I get out of it. Higher is usually more fun for me, but the gamble of not having ropes adds a different kind of flavor. Eventually I may get far enough to get that same spice run out high on a multi pitch and then the equation will get even more complicated...

Its all fun...my goal is to be very well rounded.
Anastasia

climber
hanging from a crimp and crying for my mama.
Sep 3, 2010 - 03:00am PT
So... Climbing a boulder is a fad and climbing a mountain is a sport? But babe, you told me that size didn't matter.
AFS
Curt

Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
Sep 3, 2010 - 03:08am PT
Has the fad of bouldering left us?

Oh I hope so.

Curt
T H

climber
Sep 3, 2010 - 03:12am PT
I think the OPe is trolling for a nugget of wisdom from jogill .
PhilG

Trad climber
The Circuit, Tonasket WA
Sep 3, 2010 - 04:23am PT
OK, OK, I have an answer

Credit: PhilG

if it's fun, just do it!
Lambone

Ice climber
Ashland, Or
Sep 3, 2010 - 04:33am PT
are you kidding? no munge you just hang out with the crusty supertopo vets.

The Circuit is building the largest indoor bouldering gym in the country right now in Portland.
Frogjamm

Trad climber
San Francisco
Sep 3, 2010 - 05:07am PT
Yes, the seventies are right around the corner. Fear not, this brave new world will implode soon enough.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Come on in boys, the water's fine!
Sep 3, 2010 - 10:09am PT
I don't know munge, the cool kids won't let me hang with the anyway.

Anastasia, yes and so too was mountain biking. Now its road biking, and all the cool kids stowed their mountain bikes and dropped the big dime on new road bikes.

Just because its a fad doesn't mean there aren't core dedicated bikers and boulderers.

MisterE - I do not agree. I think the 'friction of styles' is a manufactured fart cloud perpetrated mostly by OUR generation. My experience is that younger climbers don't get their panties wadded over it.

DMT
karodrinker

Trad climber
San Jose, CA
Sep 3, 2010 - 10:16am PT
Hah! No way, in fact the "fad" is now to boulder big walls! Go Honnold!
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Sep 3, 2010 - 10:17am PT
Its all fun...my goal is to be very well rounded

Well, just wait a while and you, like most of us, will become rounder and rounder.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 3, 2010 - 10:21am PT
Who am us anyhow?!? Bouldering is still growing even though it makes my joints ache just thinking about it. LOL
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
SoCal
Sep 3, 2010 - 10:23am PT
No. It's worse than ever. The latest Climbing has an article on bouldering in the Sequoia back country (With Angel Wings right there!). Also, someone recently did a piece on Himalayan high country bouldering.

This is not good. I can barely climb V0.
Jeremy Ross

Gym climber
North Fork, CA
Sep 3, 2010 - 10:31am PT
"Real climbing". As in climbing something you have no chance of falling on and calling it " bold" because you placed a few nuts?? ;)

-JR
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Sep 3, 2010 - 10:36am PT
I'm going to start a munge climbing fad, 51% of the route
must be covered in moss or rapidly decomposing
choss to qualify.
Hope to have the website up later this year.

It's gonna be huge!
Moof

Big Wall climber
A cube at my soul sucking job in Oregon
Sep 3, 2010 - 12:23pm PT
I think we have seen a general softening of the 'chic' of climbing. Not long ago it seemed like we had climbing walls as backdrops of sitcoms, Mathew McConaughey falling off sport climbs as a plot device, and so on. Either I'm watching less TV (sadly not true), or climbing has faded out of our national fascination a bit.

Bouldering still has a lot of ethics to overcome, driven largely by the low cost of entry, IMO. A pair of shows and a pad, and your good to go. Little to no mentoring required. Braided trails andflattened foliage results.

Not dead, but thankfully it looks from my meager perspective like the explosive growth of climbing in general has slowed.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 3, 2010 - 01:06pm PT
nice philG! thread stopper in 3 posts. :)



killer response everyone btw.


this one wins a prize!


I'm going to start a munge climbing fad, 51% of the route
must be covered in moss or rapidly decomposing
choss to qualify.


brilliance!


I kid and pot stir in the OP...

However, I've always thought bouldering was the most democratic form of technical climbing, essentially scrambling or what John Gill calls 'option soloing'

Yet, I find myself bouldering less and less, tho no less inspired by folks sending the shiz and was partly curious as to whether we just hang with the crusties or whether bouldering numbers have dropped?

given the number of young kick ass folks sending at planet granie on a tuesday night or thursday in the winter, the answer is a resounding ' fuk no, it's still going strong and more so than ever'

the barrier to entry is low, and as said above, the ethics and adoption of ethics may not be there just yet.

carpet swaths will return!!!
drljefe

climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
Sep 3, 2010 - 01:29pm PT
The fad will fade
the soul will remain.

you know,
kinda like fanny packs.
apogee

climber
Sep 3, 2010 - 02:57pm PT
That's a great story, wes.
SeanH

climber
San Mateo, CA
Sep 3, 2010 - 04:05pm PT
All climbing is fun.

That said, this trend of hiking out to alpine areas like Mt. Evans and similar RMNP bouldering spots to do 7 heinous crimps on a pebble...kinda weird. Go climb a mountain! To each their own though.

I boulder in the gym for strength/fun, and would probably have a blast in bishop. But I have yet to make the drive all the way out to the east side with a pad in the back of my ride instead of a rope.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Sep 3, 2010 - 04:43pm PT
I sure hope the fad of bouldering is over...I'm tired of you clowns greasing up my boulders
Credit: it ain't me babe




Wes-best you've ever posted.
ec

climber
ca
Sep 3, 2010 - 05:51pm PT
The latest Climbing has an article on bouldering in the Sequoia back country (With Angel Wings right there!).

'never had picked-up a climbing rag for years and see this at a friend's house last month. Impressively. the most ridiculous thing I'd ever seen.

Then, while 4-wheeling out of Bald Mountain (near Shaver Lake, CA) after climbing, we see a ToyoTruck coming in with pads in the back...

Whatever...

 ec
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Carson city Nev.
Sep 3, 2010 - 05:55pm PT
Yes Wes,, indeed a nice post from You!


and I like pebble pad people, keeps them off the normal crags....;-)
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Sep 3, 2010 - 06:08pm PT
Modern boulderers do some amazing stuff, and the focus on bouldering over the last 15+ years has probably generally advanced climbing standards. (And gyms, and ...) Plus it's a pretty good entry-level drug for other kinds of climbing.

There are concerns in terms of the impacts of boulderers, who seem often to travel in herds. All the usual - trails, trampling, waste. Plus noise, and the presence of "uncouth" groups. All disturbing to land managers and some of the public.

It is sometimes hard to take boulderers seriously, given their group behaviours, the ever-present videocameras and cameras, their uniforms, and the idea that we have to treat it like it's a BFD.

ps Liked Wes' story.
hooblie

climber
from where the anecdotes roam
Sep 3, 2010 - 06:11pm PT
^^^wes goes platinum, hanky please
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 3, 2010 - 06:12pm PT
First boulders are always free Anders!




Nice rambling Wes
Captain...or Skully

Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
Sep 3, 2010 - 06:15pm PT
Good story, Wes.
I didn't even know there was a fad goin' on!
It's ALL just climbing, right? Just a flava you fancy.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Swimming in LEB tears.
Sep 3, 2010 - 06:43pm PT
This thread makes me SO ANGRY
tom woods

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Sep 3, 2010 - 07:19pm PT
If you would have told me ten years ago that I would end mostly a boulderer, I would have laughed at you.

Now, with kid and job, it's pretty much the only climbing I do. You know what, it's not that bad.

I'll never be just a boulderer, but it has all the good elements of climbing but compacted into a short distance.

As for popularity, I can't speak for other areas, but Bishop seems to be getting more popular with boulderers rather than less.

They are catching on that the season is longer than advertised.

The new guide book may play a role too.

In short, if it's a fad- I don't see it. It's popular because it's good.
Captain...or Skully

Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
Sep 3, 2010 - 07:21pm PT
I have a nice beanie now, too.
Score! ;-)
10b4me

Ice climber
Happy Boulders
Sep 4, 2010 - 02:26am PT
at my age, bouldering is about the only thing I can do
AllezAllez510

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Sep 4, 2010 - 10:24am PT
Lambone says:

"are you kidding? no munge you just hang out with the crusty supertopo vets.

The Circuit is building the largest indoor bouldering gym in the country right now in Portland. "

Because there's so much bouldering in Portland right?

Plenty of decent roped climbing in town, but PDX is a bouldering black hole...except for Carver which basically has five decent problems all of which i've done a million times.

I used to go to the circuit's original location and can tell you it was gumby central. On most nights I'd say easily 75% of the clientele had never climbed outside...and they're pulling down hard.

Having said that...the place had good route setting and was a pretty good place to train...except for the music which was usually godawful Euro house crap.
drljefe

climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
Sep 4, 2010 - 01:25pm PT
Fanny pack bump.
Thanks for the story Wes.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Sep 4, 2010 - 01:33pm PT
i have never seen so many climbers, period.

between the gyms and the crags,

i mean there has never been so many boulder freaks at crsp, and i have been going there since 1971.

there used to be no parking lot, you could drive all the way up to the out house.

now the only car you see up there is the meat wagon.

i talk to the rock the whole time i am climbing,

kind of like mark fydrich, the pitcher, anybody remember him?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm_jU0b5Hgw
so everybody thinks i'm a freak to be avoided, hey man,
Randisi

Boulder climber
East Side
Sep 4, 2010 - 02:34pm PT
I had thought that bouldering was dead back in the mid-Nineties. Then pads became popular...

But judging from all the chalk-smeared footholds and chalk-caked, unbrushed handholds I've been seeing since I returned to California (I'm not saying it only happens here), I'd say that boulderers have certainly gotten dumber.

I just visited Indian and Mortar Rock in Berkeley for the first time in ten years, and I've never seen it so ill cared for: dirt all over any hold within five feet of the ground and glass shards in what dirt has actually remained on the ground. I'm not sure if such neglect indicates an increase or a decrease in the amount of boulderers however.
jogill

climber
Colorado
Sep 4, 2010 - 11:07pm PT
Also, someone recently did a piece on Himalayan high country bouldering.

Oscar Eckenstein conducted a bouldering competition for natives in a village in the Kashmirs in 1892. He gave prizes of one rupee for each "winner", and commented the best there were far superior to any Swiss guide he had known. He might have mixed feelings about the beanies these days, however . . .
bjj

climber
beyond the sun
Sep 4, 2010 - 11:27pm PT
I'm not really "old school", started climbing in 1995. Went to the buttermilks a fair bit back then, and usually saw only one other car (if any). Then didn't go back again until 2002. A dozen cars plus. These days, we all know the scene. I met Mick Ryan when I was down there, just as the craze was underway. Nice guy, invited me to his house. Boy, did he find the right place at the right time.

As long as climbing stays popular, bouldering will be at the forefront in my opinion. Back when I started climbing, it wasn't an end in itself so much as it was just good training for power / extreme movements to help you with routes.

"Cruxes, cruxes, cruxes" said Ron Kauk on the subject. You do enough bouldering and you'll end up doing pretty much every hard move you could ever enncounter on a route, That'show I used to look at it, prior to joining the rest of the pad people.

Even Ben Moon doesn't climb routes anymore, according to a recent interview. He said he packed away sport climbing almost a decade ago.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
SoCal
Sep 5, 2010 - 01:17am PT
Edit: Tonesfrommars pulls the end-move on H-Dome.
Edit: Tonesfrommars pulls the end-move on H-Dome.
Credit: Apuhvel
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Sep 5, 2010 - 01:40am PT
My kids climb harder than most of you old crusty farts.












This is the future, you are the past.
Curt

Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
Sep 5, 2010 - 02:42am PT
My kids climb harder than most of you old crusty farts.

I doubt it. Nice pics, though.

Curt
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Sep 5, 2010 - 02:47am PT
You're exempt of course.
Thanks.
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 5, 2010 - 05:06am PT
I started out bouldering and did it for years before I started leading and doing multi-pitch, so in reality my climbing is just an extension of my bouldering foundation. And then you get to aid and throw everything out the window.
Reeotch

Trad climber
Kayenta, AZ
Sep 5, 2010 - 02:20pm PT
I've always regarded "climbers", who say they don't boulder, with suspicion . . .

Actually they're just a bunch of whiners . . .
Tahoe climber

climber
Davis these days
Sep 5, 2010 - 02:27pm PT
Has the fad of eating pasta left us yet?
Because we would rather get back to eating just steak for every meal.

TC
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Sep 5, 2010 - 04:04pm PT
Ill second your sentiments about boomboxes.
Gregg Olson

Boulder climber
Moorpark, Ca
Sep 5, 2010 - 05:14pm PT
I have heard it said more then a few times that the hardest single moves in rock climbing have always been done and always will be done on the boulders. Bouldering is also (among real climbers) regarded as the purest form of rock climbing. Also... Im pretty sure toping out on a highball with a bad landing gets a "real climbing " rating !! Having done many very committing multi pitch climbs myself and bouldered many committing highballs, I can tell you there is no difference in the reward, emotion, and rush between the two. Maybe you just need to step up your bouldering choices Mungeclimber !!
Tahoe climber

climber
Davis these days
Sep 5, 2010 - 07:23pm PT
Didn't Royal Robbins himself start out as a boulderer?
bjj

climber
beyond the sun
Sep 5, 2010 - 07:39pm PT
Spider Savage - Really great pics! I recognize the buttermilks of course, and I think Joe's Valley. What other spots are shown?

And, I defy anyone here sniffing their nose at bouldering as not being "real climbing" to try some of today's new wave highballs. Not even the ones in the extreme levels of difficulty department. Once you get past the 15 foot mark, you're into the same level of commitment as a lot of spicey roped routes.

Have a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSsdFlotCrA

Watch till the end. Forget that it's a V10 problem. Even if it was V1, I'd bet the farm very few of the "bouldering is a fad" climbers wouldn't sh#t themselves, no matter how many pads you have beneath you. I'm sure I would.

Past that, I know a lot of people who solely boulder, and not very many of them talk sh#t about guys who want to rope up and stroll around on 5.9 all day. I wonder why that is.
WBraun

climber
Sep 5, 2010 - 08:39pm PT
LOL Joe

yer killin me man ....

hahaha ......
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Sep 6, 2010 - 01:12am PT
Yea, Im with jghedge also...
Bouldering is a great way to spend an hour or two after work or with the kids, but by no means is it as dangerous as falling off a cliff in the back country.
Too bad I don't get more opportunities to fall off sh#t in the back country.
bjj

climber
beyond the sun
Sep 6, 2010 - 01:23am PT
Give it a rest. I've done tons of long, hard commiting routes and highball bouldering. Stop being a hater. Watch the video of Lisa Rands doing a 30+ foot V10 with the crux near the top. You think you have the stones to try it? Even with a stack of pads? No, you don't.

And I said "a lot of spicey roped routes". Not "all". But of course you purposely tried to make it sound like I was. Because otherwise you'd have no possibility of retort. Reading comprehension, it's a good thing. Stop letting your insecurity cloud your understanding. Right, off you go.



"Once you get past the 15 foot mark, you're into the same level of commitment as a lot of spicey roped routes."

With a stack of pads below you? No. That's a ridiculous statement.

Plus, you get hurt 5 pitches up and it's a much bigger deal than if you're on the ground.

And you wonder why people talk sh#t... "
bjj

climber
beyond the sun
Sep 6, 2010 - 01:28am PT
"Didn't Royal Robbins himself start out as a boulderer?"

Pretty much all the cutting edge roped climbers used bouldering as an integral part of training. John Long, Bachar, Kauk. It allows you to work your skill on the hardest moves in a relatively safe environment, so that when you do encounter some tough business in a spicey situation, you'll have that much more confidence. I'll take their word over those of some hater who wants to pretend like bouldering is an affront to "real" climbing. What a joke.

Like I said before, I rarely have ever heard anyone who only boulders talk sh#t about climbing on a rope. They simply don't care what other people do. But the reverse doesn't seem to be true. Rope only climbers seem to be very concerned that everyone know they are "real" climbers because they get a few pitches off the ground and place their own gear.
Weld_it

Trad climber
Chatsworth
Sep 6, 2010 - 01:51am PT
boldering is RAD, but all them pads are like nine men kissing.... SUPA GHEY!!!!!!
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Sep 6, 2010 - 02:19am PT
Didn't John sometimes call his soloing "bouldering in the sky"? As the essence of bouldering is no rope and (likely) considerable difficulty relative to the climber's abilities, an accurate summary.
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Sep 6, 2010 - 02:37am PT
Weld-it just got quoted on Facebook.
But my "supa ghey" pads have saved my body from some hard landings for sure, So I think supa ghey is alright with me.
Weld_it

Trad climber
Chatsworth
Sep 6, 2010 - 11:53am PT
pucker up sailer!
R.B.

Big Wall climber
Land on the Lahar
Sep 6, 2010 - 12:54pm PT
Bouldering leads to sport climbing as free soloing leads to trad cliff climbing as rad trad lead climbing leads to big wall climbing as Lycra leads to being a padder ....

It's all climbing lads, it's all about the style you use to combat the gravity, since that is the one thing that's in common to it all. Seems like it's not as easy to pull the rads anymore, could it be that extra coupla pounds on the frame, eh?
Paco

Trad climber
Montana
Sep 6, 2010 - 01:32pm PT
Recently spent several days in squamish...bouldering is VERY much alive.
Curt

Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
Sep 6, 2010 - 02:08pm PT
You are at the bottom of the slander chain, as it were - sport climbers get to slander boulderers, trad climbers get to slander sport climbers, and alpine climbers get to slander...well, pretty much everyone. Don't like it? Tough.

I hope you're still merely a good troll and not starting to believe your own BS.

Curt
Mick Ryan

Trad climber
The Peaks
Sep 6, 2010 - 03:06pm PT
Mick Ryan is a fad.

Mick Ryan
Mick Ryan

Trad climber
The Peaks
Sep 6, 2010 - 03:10pm PT
In answer to your question Munge.

No way is bouldering a fad. People bin a-bouldering for centuries. Pre-dates that multi-pitch stuff.

Proper climbing, un-proper climbing....s'all climbing, s'all fun.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 8, 2010 - 08:37pm PT
Just remember, fashion is circular. You will come back around Mick. heh



s'all good, but don't stop climbing related threads ya'll.


great pics Chinny Chin Chin

Don't have any of my own, but I dig Salad's kid as a toddler bustin out all pirate stylee!!

Spider Savage

Mountain climber
SoCal
Sep 8, 2010 - 09:14pm PT
Shattered my ankle trying to do highball in '85. Now I don't highball.

That was before pads. However, same result if you miss the pad.

Interesting datum for boulderers: A 150 lb weight falling 10 ft generates 2,000 lbs of force. (don't recall the source)
tom woods

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Sep 8, 2010 - 09:38pm PT
I'll vouch for chinchen's kids.

By the way, I'm back around but my cell phone went with the old job.

I'm thinking BBQ this weekend, maybe a quick trip to the happies.
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Sep 8, 2010 - 11:57pm PT
Sounds fun Tom! Give me a shout.
Thanks for the props Munge.

I gave up bouldering tonight when I went to the Buttermilks to find two euro twits cooking spaghetti under the birthday boulder warmup prow....
Captain...or Skully

Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
Sep 9, 2010 - 12:00am PT
I, too, am diggin' the tiny pirate.
Workin' the startin' moves, he is.
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Sep 9, 2010 - 12:07am PT
Yea pretty damn cute! That chalk bag is almost as big as he is!
Branscomb

Trad climber
Lander, WY
Sep 9, 2010 - 01:01pm PT
I hope so, then I can have it all to myself! Ha!
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 9, 2010 - 01:24pm PT
"she" is. That's baby T.


Baby S came later.


Salad, post up the S boy firing.


Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Sep 10, 2010 - 12:38pm PT
Eveyone's doin' it.
Credit: Jaybro
Credit: Jaybro

Even guys who can't match their shoes....
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Sep 10, 2010 - 12:59pm PT
kind of like mark fydrich, the pitcher, anybody remember him?

Yeah, I saw him pitch in Evansville.

I hope bouldering doesn't fade away. My newest strategy at Josh is to get a kid boulderer to put the first piece in for me.
edejom

Boulder climber
Butte, America
Sep 10, 2010 - 01:08pm PT
These two don't think that it's a "fad"...

Credit: edejom

Credit: edejom
EdBannister

Mountain climber
CA
Sep 10, 2010 - 02:08pm PT
I spent 800 days in the sierra by my 20th birthday,
started climbing when i was 12.

When I opened Art of Climbing at 33 in Chatsworth near many boulding devotees holy grail, stoney point,i had only been there three times before.

ok i care about the place, lobbied for and got a night time parking restriction which greatly reduced graffitti and broken glass...

but...

I always wanted to print a T-Shirt
only just a little tongue in cheek.....


If it isn't three pitches high,
it isn't worth doing

maybe that's why i never got any good!
i hated to boulder.
and detested the rich lake beta fest mentality of
"that goes like this" blah blah...
actually, i never really wanted to do any route more than once.

I always associated climbing, and enjoyed the process,
of having to think.
drunkenmaster

Social climber
santa rosa
Sep 10, 2010 - 02:22pm PT
Bouldering is the most real, but only if you can answer the question "what is "real"?" !?
drunkenmaster

Social climber
santa rosa
Sep 10, 2010 - 02:25pm PT
You're a fad :)
SharpSpoons

Boulder climber
SD,CA
Sep 10, 2010 - 02:42pm PT
It may be because I'm a newbie, but doesn't hating on bouldering seem a little elitist to anyone? I mean it is the cheapest and best intro to climbing isn't it? Thats like, at least to me, big wave surfers hating on a guy from Nebraska who is just learning how to surf, or a grom learning how to drop in properly.

I understand disliking those who ruin the experience by leaving a mess or being obnoxious, but I find it incredibly odd that NONE of the Trad climbers or the Alpine climbers have never run into their own ilk being just as rude and obnoxious.
T H

climber
Sep 10, 2010 - 03:01pm PT
Did anybody like THRUTCH? I was thinking about downloading it.
Tfish

Sport climber
La Crescenta, CA
Sep 10, 2010 - 04:54pm PT
Its a progression of things. You start off bouldering then TR, then sport, then trad, then aid, then Big wall. Boulderers aren't as evolved...it's just science.
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Sep 10, 2010 - 08:05pm PT
Two words.....JOHN GILL. The man is a wonder and thank god he took it serious! He got me pumped on bouldering and I still find it a meditation on rock, kinesthetic flow the marvel of moving on stone!
Peace
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Sep 10, 2010 - 10:16pm PT
Wat?




klk

Trad climber
cali
Sep 10, 2010 - 10:22pm PT
^^^

the haulbag is a nice touch.
bjj

climber
beyond the sun
Sep 11, 2010 - 12:16am PT
Strength in numbers
Strength in numbers
Credit: bjj

My contribution. On Strength in Numbers at The Sad (I think) boulders. Bishop, 2002.
bjj

climber
beyond the sun
Sep 11, 2010 - 12:24am PT
That's what I was talking about previously. I've spent tons of time both boudering and racked up with gear.

The crowds at many of the bouldering sessions I've been a part of over the years have sometimes been huge. Yet, in all that time I almost never hear boulderers bagging on people who choose instead to climb 5.6 on a rope. Yet the reverse is not the case, as you have noticed.

Seems like people who are way into bouldering are simply having too good a time to care what other people are doing.

Bouldering as training for getting better at roped climbing is essential, IMO. Some people of course do it as an end in itself, and it is easy to see why. Besides the lack of expense and (for the most part) risk, it simply is the purest form of climbing.


"It may be because I'm a newbie, but doesn't hating on bouldering seem a little elitist to anyone? I mean it is the cheapest and best intro to climbing isn't it? Thats like, at least to me, big wave surfers hating on a guy from Nebraska who is just learning how to surf, or a grom learning how to drop in properly.

I understand disliking those who ruin the experience by leaving a mess or being obnoxious, but I find it incredibly odd that NONE of the Trad climbers or the Alpine climbers have never run into their own ilk being just as rude and obnoxious."
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2010 - 02:01am PT
real bouldering...

Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Sep 11, 2010 - 02:13am PT
What are you doing? Laddering?
2 l l

Sport climber
Rancho Verga, CA
Sep 11, 2010 - 04:34am PT
Hey smellz ,
Nice outside edge.
bjj

climber
beyond the sun
Sep 11, 2010 - 09:31am PT
"real bouldering..."


Is the Le Conte?

That's where I taught myself basic aiding and jugging. Me and my even less experienced parter needed something to do while we waited out a grey, drizzly day. So equipped with a copy of "freedom of the hills" and some borrowed gear, we spent the afternoon futzing around. Good times.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Sep 11, 2010 - 01:31pm PT
bjj: The crowds at many of the bouldering sessions I've been a part of over the years have sometimes been huge.
The crowds, and associated behaviours, are things which deter me from modern bouldering. I like to boulder, and climb, quietly.
426

climber
Buzzard Point, TN
Sep 11, 2010 - 03:58pm PT
maybe that's why i never got any good!
i hated to boulder.
and detested the rich lake beta fest mentality of
"that goes like this" blah blah...
actually, i never really wanted to do any route more than once.

I always associated climbing, and enjoyed the process,
of having to think.

I'd say this is really truthful and accurate...if you can't do "hard" moves just off the ground, no way you're doing them "on high".

I boulder with a bunch of kids that send hard stuff (to me anyhoo) and would argue that bouldering is dammed cerebral...

Nobody can spray beta @ me though, too tall and climb with my own suck style...in MacLeod's book he definitely favors bouldering as one of the best ways to improve your climbing...young or old, fat or skinny...

R U 1 in 10?

Gregg Olson

Boulder climber
Moorpark, Ca
Sep 11, 2010 - 04:33pm PT
The picture of Munge aiding up a boulder pretty much says it all !! No wonder he started this post and does not understand bouldering ... Do you think that is a more "real" form of climbing then bouldering ? LOL !!!!
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Sep 11, 2010 - 04:57pm PT
http://www.johngill.net/
Peace
Gregg Olson

Boulder climber
Moorpark, Ca
Sep 11, 2010 - 05:38pm PT
John Gill ????...Did the master leave us ?? His website says 1953 - 2010 ??

Edit : Please see below. He is fine !!
MisterE

Social climber
Bouncy Tiggerville
Sep 11, 2010 - 05:41pm PT
I seriously doubt it - he just posted 6 days ago. I think he just meant a climbing retrospective covering that period.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=328478&msg=1260906#msg1260906
Gregg Olson

Boulder climber
Moorpark, Ca
Sep 11, 2010 - 06:45pm PT
Jeezzz !! Im a bone head... I just went back and that is exactly what it looks like. All that lame bouldering Im doing must be making me a bit slow in the head !!
Thanks,
G-
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Sep 11, 2010 - 06:59pm PT
Just finished transcribing an interview of John Gill and what an insight, I got to listen and write his words. He IS bouldering and lead many of us from the 60's, 70's and 80's on a pilgrimage to find out what bouldering is about to each individual and for me, he said it true....that it is a meditation, a pure love for movement on the rock, an end in itself.
Thanks John for your influence and motivation for so many years!
Peace
Gregg Olson

Boulder climber
Moorpark, Ca
Sep 11, 2010 - 11:43pm PT
Ron... Is there any way I could see or read what you just did for John ? He is and was a tremendous inspiration to me. I learned the essence of moving over stone from watching him climb. FyI for all you "Real Climbers" out there he climbed 5.10 in the 1950's and 5.12 in the 60's before real climbing shoes were even made and with the grace and style of a zen or Ti Chi master.
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Sep 12, 2010 - 01:39am PT
what was the question again?
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Sep 12, 2010 - 01:42am PT
the question was,

"has the pad of bouldering left us..."

which is silly, i see pads left and right.

crsp, taser park, woodson, j tree, pads everywhere.

enuff ozone depletion to cause al gore to sh#t his already diahrea pants,

bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Sep 12, 2010 - 02:03am PT
boulderz4lyfe, yo.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Sep 12, 2010 - 02:06am PT
if we get the chinese to start importing rope,

then the kids will toss the pads and rack up.
MisterE

Social climber
Bouncy Tiggerville
Sep 12, 2010 - 02:16am PT
More specifically to Ron Gomez's link, I give you the following, lest one think it is a "fad" :

Where and when did documented bouldering start? Some think it began with Chris Sharma in the early 1990s. Others believe it started with me in the 1950s. Still others think that Pierre Allain and his 'Bleausards initiated the sport in the 1930s. In fact, climbers were scrambling about on boulders in Fontainebleau as early as 1874. Does scrambling and easy climbing on boulders constitute bouldering? If so, then the 'Bleau climbers may have been the first to document an appreciation of the sport.

And the more specific link:

http://www128.pair.com/r3d4k7/Bouldering_History1.0.html

Good to see you back, OG Crusher BVB
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Sep 12, 2010 - 10:13am PT
Gregg I will have to secure permission from the owners of the content...it's an ongoing project that I was fortunate enough to get John's interview to transcribe. It is not my material and when the project is done it WILL be worth buying a copy of it. Some priceless stuff in this and many other interviews...historical to say the least, priceless if yer a climber!
Peace
OfBlinkingThings

Boulder climber
Jacksonville, Fl
Sep 12, 2010 - 12:10pm PT
I just finished reading stone crusade again.

Bouldering a fad?

I don't think so.
klk

Trad climber
cali
Sep 12, 2010 - 12:18pm PT
hahahaha,

munge is gonna have to invest in a big ass live well.


hey ron-- i met up with alex and oakley on friday. they sure are putting a lot of effort into that film. and good on you for sticking through one of the transcription sessions-- most folks don't understand how much difficult labor it is.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 12, 2010 - 01:17pm PT

does not understand bouldering


yup, I dun't understand the boulderz Gregg O. :)


I only climb the easy ones... and I have the wrong pants...

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 12, 2010 - 01:19pm PT
Sprock, you may be onto a correct interpretation...

has the pad of bouldering left us, as in have we gone back to swaths of carpet again? all dangerz and shit!
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 12, 2010 - 01:21pm PT
ah, maybe this is the future?!?!?!


ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Sep 12, 2010 - 01:25pm PT
Hey Kerwin good to hear from you! Thanks a bunch for meeting with them, seems like a cool project, glad to help out where I can. Jeeezus no doubt that is a labor intensive thing to transcribe, but this is the sort of thing that NEEDS to get done for those in the future to read and for the preservation of the words and knowledge of those that have come before us. What I got out of doing this is WAY bigger than the work I put into it!
Peace
Gregg Olson

Boulder climber
Moorpark, Ca
Sep 12, 2010 - 04:48pm PT
Munge... Its not the pants holding you back, its the shoes and the hair !! Is that a mullet ? I think I still have some of those pants around... along with my red and white striped lycra tights and green ninjas !!
But more importantly, WHERE IS THAT BOULDER LOCATED ?? What an awesome piece of rock. My hands are sweating and Im drooling now !!

P.S. Hay Munge... Please don't put a bolt ladder on it !!
G_Gnome

Trad climber
In the mountains... somewhere...
Sep 12, 2010 - 07:08pm PT
Gregg, try hunting in TM, over by Pywiak, in the creek drainage.
AWhit

Trad climber
Bozeman, MT
Sep 12, 2010 - 11:29pm PT
may the fad of keyboard climbers leave us soon as well.
Weld_it

Trad climber
Chatsworth
Sep 12, 2010 - 11:30pm PT
RAD!!!!!!
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 13, 2010 - 06:39pm PT
Awhit, no doubt. friggin bunch of wankers those wanna be internetzers.


:)
goatboy smellz

climber
Nederland
Sep 13, 2010 - 07:08pm PT
I challenge Munge to a sitstart standoff of at least 3 moves in a row.
Slabs are out of bounds.
Oxymoron

Big Wall climber
total Disarray
Sep 13, 2010 - 07:10pm PT
Bouldering is good stuff. It'll be around as long as climbing itself is.
hooblie

climber
from where the anecdotes roam
Sep 13, 2010 - 07:59pm PT
the future of bouldering is unlimited
Credit: chiseled from google
gonna be totally sick. highball comin!
klk

Trad climber
cali
Sep 13, 2010 - 10:07pm PT
nice munge.

131 and climbing.
drunkenmaster

Social climber
santa rosa
Sep 14, 2010 - 08:46pm PT
the flying saucer - rad!
nice pic Munge.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 15, 2010 - 07:54pm PT
K, I'm trying, but it's a tough battle.


goat! That's not a fair contest. "Slabs are out of bounds."

It ain't real bouldering til yer dragging yer left side up a slabby sit start!!!

:)

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 15, 2010 - 07:55pm PT
This is the future!



you all know what size that is!
scuffy b

climber
Eastern Salinia
Sep 16, 2010 - 05:16pm PT
How tall? 4 ft?
OfBlinkingThings

Boulder climber
Jacksonville, Fl
Sep 16, 2010 - 05:35pm PT
Anything taller than 4 ft and we have to rehearse the moves on top-rope, right?
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 16, 2010 - 06:31pm PT
rehearsal is mandatory

Scuff, with the cut away base, hands get inserted just below half height.

It's ready for you! 8 mile approach.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Trad climber
Will know soon
Sep 16, 2010 - 08:25pm PT
Never thought of bouldering as a fad. John Gill certainly set a standard of climbing that captivated the likes of many including John Bachar and John Long. Recently tried bouldering and if it is a "Fad" it's here to stay.

Climbing rock is just that. There's all kinds. Like people and races. None is really better than the rest. Joy and Peace, Lynne
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Sep 16, 2010 - 08:31pm PT
Even if it looks eerily like an Offwidth Headstone...
edejom

Boulder climber
Butte, America
Sep 16, 2010 - 09:37pm PT
New school OW bouldering, anyone?
Credit: edejom
klk

Trad climber
cali
Sep 16, 2010 - 10:34pm PT
http://vimeo.com/14445320

T H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Jan 23, 2011 - 03:54am PT
"Climbing is technical movement over your chosen medium." ~ MisterE
DanaB

climber
Philadelphia
Jan 23, 2011 - 12:27pm PT
Maybe fads are just a fad?
gonamok

climber
aging malcontent
Jan 24, 2011 - 02:04am PT
Boulders have been victimized by this "bouldering" craze for far too long. Instead of being productive members of society, these kooks spend their days wearing funny shoes and lugging small mattresses around, to feed their need to put chalk on innocent rocks, unmindful that they may be ruining my wilderness experience. The sooner this fad peters out, the better if you ask me.

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2011 - 02:08am PT
LOL!!!
T H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Jan 24, 2011 - 03:27am PT
Has the fad of bouldering left us?
Yes, but now you've got this to contend with ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og09MfNWGjQ&feature=related
another example >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gLrzn7j7mI&NR=1
this just in

climber
north fork
Jan 24, 2011 - 11:07am PT
Every time I'm done bouldering, the fad is over. Then it starts up again the next time I go bouldering. It's all climbing, it's all a "fad", and it's all dangerous. I went slab climbing yesterday, now that's a scary fad. You slabmasters are sick in the head. A good thing though.
T H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Apr 15, 2011 - 06:06pm PT
The little ballerina shoes, the pad for your naptime, sets of brushes and blowtubes, tape and manicure implements.
Jeremy Ross

Gym climber
Mar 1, 2013 - 02:39pm PT
Then, while 4-wheeling out of Bald Mountain (near Shaver Lake, CA) after climbing, we see a ToyoTruck coming in with pads in the back...

Whatever...


Haha there's this thing called "after work bouldering", sounds like it was my buddy's truck. What's funny about this statement is that 4-wheeling out at Bald Mountain is like the gym climbing of 4X4.

Whatever....


-JR
doughnutnational

Gym climber
its nice here in the spring
Mar 1, 2013 - 03:10pm PT
The bouldering near bald mountain sucks, what a joke even going there, although it is a nice drinking spot
Some bouldering faddest near Bald Mountain
Some bouldering faddest near Bald Mountain
Credit: lurking fear
Jeremy Ross

Gym climber
Mar 1, 2013 - 03:40pm PT
Oh man that does suck! That sucky guy climbing was probably in the toyota, too haha!

You been climbing much Doughnut? Justin and McLemore just headed up to Tollhouse for the afternoon. Go solo their routes!



-JR
doughnutnational

Gym climber
its nice here in the spring
Mar 1, 2013 - 04:41pm PT
No recent climbing (unless tollhouse traverse counts, but I'm riding my bike alot and losing my belly, if I can get down to about 123 maybe I can keep up with Kenny!
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 1, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
dab on the sessel boulder. heh
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Mar 1, 2013 - 04:53pm PT
I dont think pads even existed ( or were not mainstream anyway) when I started bouldering. Love bouldering but have always felt like a tool carrying a big ass pad around. Bouldering is cool none the less. Nothing like a good session to clear the head after a long day . Add in a nice run to boulder and you got yourself a fun little workout. Im bringin' bouldering back.
mike a.

Sport climber
ca
Mar 1, 2013 - 05:06pm PT
i have done that boulder problem at bald mt. that area has some fun bouldering there.
doughnutnational

Gym climber
its nice here in the spring
Mar 1, 2013 - 05:11pm PT
Are you sure, most the bouldering I've seen in the area looks alot like the choss pile in the picture. Rattlesnake Rock is much better than Bald Mountain too bad it got closed.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 1, 2013 - 05:14pm PT
no, it has not left us. it's improved. the latest addition is to bring a hammer and chisel with you. after all.... they're not just for 'heading any more....
gonzo chemist

climber
Fort Collins, CO
Mar 1, 2013 - 05:30pm PT
LEFT US??? I don't know about you hosers...but I'm just getting started!

Credit: gonzo chemist
prickle

Gym climber
globe,az
Mar 1, 2013 - 05:33pm PT
i'm too lazy to bother with routes anymore.too much work
Lurking Fear

Boulder climber
Bishop, California
Mar 1, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
I think we're fooling ourselves if we think it's a fad. It's just too easy to hang out at the boulders. No one even cares if you climb, and you always have a nice seat. I'm seeing a new trend where large groups from gyms come out in force to an area. I also see a lot of bottles of beer at the boulders. From some climber's perspective it's the perfect type of climbing. From a Bishop perspective things have not improved since I've been here. I don't mind the crowds, but it's still easy to get away from the crowds when you want to. Bald Mountain is definitely choss and you still have the crowds.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Mar 1, 2013 - 07:27pm PT
They're making routes where every single hold is manufactured, and people are claiming that chipping is ok now. The gym climbers are overpopulating and bringing the gym with them everywhere they go. Instead of learning from experienced climbers they learn how to do a double gaston off a finger pocket but don't know how to make an anchor. Luckily they tend to stay off the real routes.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
Mar 1, 2013 - 07:32pm PT
Or, if they have to hike.

How about making a rollup sheet of material with holds on it that you just drape over a blank boulder. Maybe even a blow-dryer (solar-powered of course) could shrinkwrap the material onto the blank boulder. When you leave, you cut the wrap off and go home and attach a corset drawstring to the sheet so you can reattach the next time without the blowdryer.
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Mar 1, 2013 - 08:33pm PT
I started bouldering pretty much the same month I first took acid -- 40 years ago this October. Clearly, bouldering is a corrupter of youth, and cut severely into time I could have spent Ice Climbing or Walling or otherwise bettering myself. Let the fad fade, for the sake of the children.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 1, 2013 - 08:38pm PT
I just read a paper that found that excessive bouldering prolongs bed-wetting.
SeaClimb

climber
Mar 1, 2013 - 09:01pm PT
No fad...the youth love it.

Right now, ABS nationals are happening. This is a sport not likely to die out.

James

climber
My twin brother's laundry room
Mar 1, 2013 - 10:09pm PT
Credit: James
When there are boulder problems like these- would you want to stop?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Mar 1, 2013 - 11:41pm PT
Cosumness!

DMT
Captain...or Skully

climber
Mar 1, 2013 - 11:47pm PT
Bouldering is fun. It will always be so.
5.2~5.12, anyone? Only climberfolk go there.
Michelle

Social climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Mar 1, 2013 - 11:51pm PT
Cosumness!

Yay!
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Mar 2, 2013 - 12:06am PT
This is a funny page.


bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Mar 2, 2013 - 01:50am PT
Personally, I pine for the day when this absurd, transient sport "climbing" fad goes away once and for all. It's an embarassment -- the practice of sport "climbing" is the mp3 of the climbing experience. Sport climbing takes the totality of the rich and deeply spiritual mental landscape of the quest and compresses all the life out of it. No bass; shrill, tinny highs; the meat, soul, richness, texture and depth: digitized and plasticized out of existance. Niel Young and I are aghast, and vigorously object. Super-highball bouldering, and smaller, exquisite blocs writ by the hand of God himself arrayed in ambrosian glens of old-growth conifers, rich soft meadows festooned with wildflowers, rainbows arcing across a cloudless sky of indigo blue, and a sane and honorable amount of foam for the truly bad landings, are the future of the sport. Don't even get me started about indoor climbing on petrolium products and "climbing" gyms.

Mark my words. Thus spake the American Legend, the last Oracle of unfiltered truth channeled directly from the marrow of the human condition. Sort of like the Last Unicorn, without the glitter.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Mar 2, 2013 - 01:59am PT
Bvb, I have the best bouldering pad ever. and it doubles as my guest bedroom. You take a big platform, 12 inches by twin bed size, full length velcro full of cut off chunks of other pads. This thing is the sh#t.
I'm taking it to Homestake. That place rocks.

American Legend edit: I ain't Nekking no minutes. WTF? Meh.
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Mar 2, 2013 - 02:02am PT
Nek Minnit! Get 'er done!
T H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Mar 2, 2013 - 02:19am PT
Can we now get back to the only real climbing = multi pitch climbing?
Bring a pad in case you sketch the first clip.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2013 - 02:38am PT
Personally, I pine for the day when this absurd, transient sport "climbing" fad goes away once and for all. It's an embarassment -- the practice of sport "climbing" is the mp3 of the climbing experience. Sport climbing takes the totality of the rich and deeply spiritual mental landscape of the quest and compresses all the life out of it. No bass; shrill, tinny highs; the meat, soul, richness, texture and depth: digitized and plasticized out of existance. Niel Young and I are aghast, and vigorously object. Super-highball bouldering, and smaller, exquisite blocs writ by the hand of God himself arrayed in ambrosian glens of old-growth conifers, rich soft meadows festooned with wildflowers, rainbows arcing across a cloudless sky of indigo blue, and a sane and honorable amount of foam for the truly bad landings, are the future of the sport. Don't even get me started about indoor climbing on petrolium products and "climbing" gyms.

Mark my words. Thus spake the American Legend, the last Oracle of unfiltered truth channeled directly from the marrow of the human condition. Sort of like the Last Unicorn, without the glitter.


Spoken like a tru desert rat!

That shiz iz on FB now. Going viral yo!
Captain...or Skully

climber
Mar 2, 2013 - 02:40am PT
All good except for "Niel".....editing, man.
Ahem.
skywalker

climber
Mar 2, 2013 - 02:46am PT
Is this a FAD? Back to the O.P. I can go the rest of my life without tying in. Thats not what climbing is about.

Respectfully

S...
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Mar 2, 2013 - 03:44am PT
All good except for "Niel".....editing, man.

You mean it's not "I before E except after C?" See? Do you see?! This is what I'm talking about! I'm sure my language tutors were all wannabe Sp0rt Climbers! Ahhhgh! The decline of Western Civilization, here and now!
this just in

climber
north fork
Mar 2, 2013 - 12:45pm PT

Matt Schutz Trad bouldering
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 2, 2013 - 12:49pm PT
I've seen bvb sport climb... he's right, it sucks!
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Mar 2, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
Bouldering...it's just not real enough, like that picture above clearly demonstrates.
locker

Social climber
FukUville
Mar 2, 2013 - 01:14pm PT


"Trad bouldering"...

Huh???...

What the fuk is, "Trad Bouldering"???...

this just in

climber
north fork
Mar 2, 2013 - 01:16pm PT
No pad. You know like all the bitd climbers must point out. Haha.
locker

Social climber
FukUville
Mar 2, 2013 - 01:21pm PT

"No pad."...



Pad???...

this just in

climber
north fork
Mar 2, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
Exactly.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Mar 2, 2013 - 01:28pm PT
boldering is neither
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Mar 2, 2013 - 01:38pm PT
Posted this before, but it seems appropriate (by the way, the "boulderer" here is actually a very fine "trad" climber)

Taylor Canyon - Gunnison
Taylor Canyon - Gunnison
Credit: ydpl8s
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