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Aaron Johnson

climber
Bear Valley, CA
May 31, 2010 - 09:06pm PT
Thanks. Please keep us posted ...
NotIt

Trad climber
SF, CA
May 31, 2010 - 09:08pm PT
Damn, hate to see this. Hope it ends well for the parties involved.

I imagine that these guys were carrying a SPOT or other PLB? There is definitely no cell service out that way, nor is it probable that anyone skied out to the resort to make the call for help.
tom woods

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
May 31, 2010 - 09:47pm PT
Good luck to the SAR team- stay safe. Hopefully everything cools off enough to stabilize- but then you got ice.

Fortunately- you Mono guys have some great skiers. If it can be done, you guys can do it.

I'm just a fussy old worry wort- ignore me. Get down safe.
Gene

Social climber
May 31, 2010 - 09:53pm PT
Godspeed to all involved. Praying for the best.

g
NotIt

Trad climber
SF, CA
May 31, 2010 - 10:22pm PT
I stand corrected on the ski-out for help.

Thanks Cragman.
Misha

Trad climber
Woodside, CA
Jun 1, 2010 - 01:39am PT
Say hi to Barry for me. I am guessing he is a member of the SAR party.

praying for the skier!
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Jun 1, 2010 - 01:42am PT
hey there say, cragman... sending prayings...
sad to hear this...
:(

thanks for the share...
Fletcher

Trad climber
not very much, recently.
Jun 1, 2010 - 01:54am PT
Hang in there, whoever you are... Hoping for the best...

Eric
Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Jun 1, 2010 - 02:09am PT
Sounds like a job for NAS Fallon. Hope they get it all set up for an evac at dawn. Hoping for the very best for the victim, family, and the on-scene team.
micronut

Trad climber
fresno, ca
Jun 1, 2010 - 11:08am PT
Hoping for good news or an update this morning.
WBraun

climber
Jun 1, 2010 - 01:59pm PT
Grim ....
Mike Bolte

Trad climber
Planet Earth
Jun 1, 2010 - 02:07pm PT
This is awful, heartbreaking news. Deepest sympathies to those boys and their mother.
msiddens

Trad climber
Mountain View
Jun 1, 2010 - 02:11pm PT
ugh, bummer and sincere condolences.
micronut

Trad climber
fresno, ca
Jun 1, 2010 - 02:15pm PT
Oh man. So sad. I can't imagine what those boys and mom went through. Terrible news.
Iron Mtn.

Trad climber
Corona, Ca.
Jun 1, 2010 - 02:20pm PT
Glad to hear the children are safe and i'm sorry for the tragic loss of their father and their mother's loss of her husband.
Tragic :-(

RIP
tom woods

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
Jun 1, 2010 - 02:39pm PT
So sorry to hear this. It sounds like a nightmare.

haishan

Trad climber
CA
Jun 1, 2010 - 02:45pm PT
I'm so shocked and saddened to hear this news... we had skied Matterhorn on Sunday and I think we crossed paths with this family on the trail on our way out Sunday afternoon. We chatted for a few minutes about conditions up high, the father was so enthusiastic and full of spirit... seemed like a really nice guy. It's hard for me to fathom this outcome. Deepest sorrow, my condolences to the family.
flakyfoont

Trad climber
carsoncity nv
Jun 1, 2010 - 02:50pm PT
my condolences to the family ..what an ordeal. Victims wife
and 15 yr old son had to ski out for help.
I would guess thier cell phone was useless.
147.000+ HAM FREQUENCY on Mt. Bullion is fully accessible
from that location !!also from the east side 146.655 on
leviathon pk.and northern end posibly 146.970 on patterson pk
pl on these frequencys available from control operator.
Daphne

Trad climber
Mill Valley, CA
Jun 1, 2010 - 02:59pm PT
This is so sad. Condolences to the family and friends and much light for the journey ahead.
NotIt

Trad climber
SF, CA
Jun 1, 2010 - 03:08pm PT
This is a tragedy.

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
Jun 1, 2010 - 04:15pm PT
How horrible!
Misha

Trad climber
Woodside, CA
Jun 1, 2010 - 04:19pm PT
Thanks Cragman. Awful tragedy
JohnRoe

Trad climber
State College, PA
Jun 1, 2010 - 04:56pm PT
Deepest sympathy to all involved
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
Will know soon
Jun 1, 2010 - 05:22pm PT
Dingus, spot on !

My heart is breaking for a 10 year old whose Dad lost his life trying to rescue him. Yet I also agree with Dean. It's the life in your years....... (This mouse would never have lived had it not been for Dan. And now I am trying to follow his example.)

To the young man who lost his Dad. Son, life is complex. It's not your fault. So many variables in your situation. Anything could have happened. A fun day or what you are experiencing.

I recently started rock climbing after my husband died two years ago. But one of my closest calls to death was when a young woman ran a red light going 90mph recently. Variables. Don't second guess, don't live with guilt. Your Dad would never, no Never want that. He loved you so much he included you in the things closest to his heart. Trust me.....you'll get this now or when you are older and have had more life experience. Few, very few get to go to eternity doing the things they love with the people they love.

Peace Always, Young Dude and Family you will be in my prayers. lynnie
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Jun 1, 2010 - 08:00pm PT
This is very sad news, but please folks withhold judgement. Everything you write will be read over and over by the surviving family and friends. Don't cast judgement, if this family was anything like mine they were simply enjoying being together in the mountains, being who they are as mountaineers, just happy to be there.

My deepest heart felt condolences for those suffering this tragedy. I hope your sad days now will turn to enjoyable memories of time spent together in the mountains with the one you loved and the one who loved you.
east side underground

Trad climber
Hilton crk,ca
Jun 1, 2010 - 08:28pm PT
very sorry for your loss, RIP
le_bruce

climber
Oakland: what's not to love?
Jun 1, 2010 - 08:32pm PT
Charlie D., thanks for that. You are spot on.

Ricardo Cabeza

climber
All Over.
Jun 1, 2010 - 08:39pm PT
So sorry to hear this. My heartfelt condolences.

Brandon-
Macronut

Trad climber
Fresno, Ca
Jun 2, 2010 - 12:44am PT
May his soul rest in peace. Thoughts and prayers for peace beyond all understanding to children and Mom.
Bammbamm

Social climber
san diego, ca
Jun 3, 2010 - 07:40am PT
Hello,

this thread was referred to me by my wife I'm not an avid climber so please bear with me. The family in question is my sisters and I am a rescue specialist with my fire department in San Diego. Undoubtedly the father (my brother in law pushed his kids to be good skiers) and my sister walked down even though she has skied for forty plus years. The reason for my post is to get FACTUAL information from on-scene personnel. This will help me make a recommendation for my counseling for my nephews to my sister. Any information you could provide will be most helpful. If you don't want to post the details I understand but please consider sending me an email then. My email is steinj2008@gmail.com.

Thank you,

Stein Jorgensen
Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer

Trad climber
Bay Area
Jun 3, 2010 - 12:46pm PT
Very sorry to read about this. Condolences to all family and friends affected. Thanks to the SAR team on going out as well in whatever conditions they encountered.
LarsJorgensen

climber
Royal Oaks, Ca
Jun 4, 2010 - 10:30am PT
On Sunday, the family hiked up to base camp and spent the night. On Monday all four hiked up about 2/3 the way up the mountain. At this point, they stopped for lunch. After lunch, Lise decided she would stay and enjoy the sunshine rather than hike up the final stretch up the East Collier. The dad and two boys hiked up and summitted the East Collier (not the rock climb). Then they booted down part way of the East Collier before putting on their skies and continueing down the mountain. Meanwhile, Lise watched them summit then and then moseyed her way down to base camp on her own. Michael and the boys continued down on their own but went down a different route than Lise had taken. This was to the left of the ridge, as you face downhill. In this path they came to a spot where the snow ran out. They could see snow across a small rock patch. They decided to cross the rock patch rather than hike back up the hill. In the process of removing his skis Mike’s skies slide out from under him and he started tumbling down a very, very steep slope. He fell about two stories, the last 10 feet of which was a vertical drop. Bjorn (the 15 ½ year old) found a way to ski down to his father. Leif followed but skied too close to a tree and sank in the snow hole near the tree. Bjorn decided that Leif was fully capable of getting out of that hole and the priority was to get to his father. Once there, his father was moaning and was facing head down hill. Bjorn spun his dad around to keep his head uphill. Bjorn decided that he needed to get help right away. He grabbed the cell phone and skied down toward base camp to catchup to his mom. At snowline, Bjorn left his skies and backpack behind and ran to Lise. Together they ran down to get help. While running, they exchanged some basic information about the condition Mike was in. When they got to basecamp, Lise put on her running shoes and ran as fast as she could to the campground below. (Cell phone was useless as there was no reception). In the meantime, Leif had got himself out of the hole and skied down to be with his father. Leif used his sweater to try to keep his dad warm and tried to put Mikes backpack underneath Mike to get him off the snow. After about an hour, Leif got cold and skied down to base camp by himself. It took two hours to contact, assemble, and get the first SAR team underway. Additional SAR teams followed later with additional equioment. (Some came from distances as much as an hour and a half a away to come help in this effort.) Two experienced hikers (they happened to be SAR but not called on this event) went up ahead of the rest they, stopped at basecamp and got a sleeping bag to take to Mike, but without a guide they were not able to find Mike. Meanwhile, Lise lead the first SAR team to basecamp, then Bjorn led them up the mountain to his father. When the SAR team arrived they could not find a pulse.


rhyang

climber
SJC
Jun 4, 2010 - 10:45am PT
Tragic accident. My condolences to the family. RIP :(
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Jun 4, 2010 - 10:54am PT
This is as bad as it gets.

If there is a positive note, Damn impressive boys!
hossjulia

Social climber
Eastside
Jun 4, 2010 - 12:18pm PT
This accident makes me cry every time I've read about it.
Freaky tragic things happen through no fault of anyones.

This sounds like a very close, with it family and I am very impressed with the 2 boys.

This totally sucks they lost there awesome Dad. RIP
Hopefully they have just as awesome male friends/family to help carry on.

My deepest condolances.



( Heck, I wish like hell I had been rasied that way. I wanted to be a mountaineer from the time I was 4 or so. I can still see the cover of the Natgeo of the First American ascent of Everst.
A horrible family life prevented me from doing more than wishing about it though.)


ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Jun 4, 2010 - 01:38pm PT
Lars, thank you for your clarification, so to ease anything on the boys and to give any erroneous posters a clear discription of the events. Prayers to all the family in hope that they will find peace with this event. sounds like a strong, tight family.
Peace
Daphne

Trad climber
Mill Valley, CA
Jun 4, 2010 - 01:40pm PT
What amazing boys, truly a testament to a wonderful father and mother.

I'll continue to hold this family in my prayers.
LarsJorgensen

climber
Royal Oaks, Ca
Jun 4, 2010 - 07:37pm PT
Thank you for the prayers. The family has a wonderful community to support them but no one will be able to fill Michael's shoes.
mucci

Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
Jun 4, 2010 - 10:12pm PT
Thank you very much Lars for the concise report.

Condolences to the family and friends.

Mucci
Bammbamm

Social climber
san diego, ca
Jun 5, 2010 - 02:34am PT
In my previous post I neglected to thank all of the individuals who were involved in this incident. I know you don't train and put your lives at risk for the "thank you's" but it's nice when the people you help do say "Thank you".

My sister and our family want to say THANK YOU for all the help and professionalism exhibited by the SAR and Helicopter teams and others involved in this incident.

Sincerely,

Stein Jorgensen
ß Î Ø T Ç H

climber
from the Leastside
Jun 5, 2010 - 04:16am PT
". . . they came to a spot where the snow ran out. They could see snow across a small rock patch. They decided to cross the rock patch rather than hike back up the hill . "
IMO the author is citing the real cause of the accident - complacency / not dotting all "i"s and crossing all "t"s , whatever - the euphoria of the moment etc . Why does he mention "hiking back up the hill" unless that's what maybe could have avoided this . Sorry to the family anyway .
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