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donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 27, 2010 - 08:24am PT
Trying to get contact info. for Peter Minks. Last time I heard from him he was in the Tahoe area.
nita

Social climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
Mar 27, 2010 - 08:34am PT
Mr.Donini, I asked that same question 4 years ago, i never got the actual info...... i still want it.
Stewart Johnson

climber
yo mama
Mar 27, 2010 - 09:37am PT
minksie lives in tahoe city and works at alpine meadows ski area
nita

Social climber
chica from chico, I don't claim to be a daisy
Mar 27, 2010 - 10:40am PT
"minksie lives in tahoe city and works at alpine meadows ski area"

I got the same info 4 years ago but am unable to get up there to inquire. Anyone have anything specific?
Mimi

climber
Mar 27, 2010 - 11:54am PT
Jim, you should contact Steve 'Crusher' Bartlett in Boulder. He'll likely know. He posts here as Crush. He'll at least have a couple of entertaining stories for you. LOL
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Mar 27, 2010 - 02:27pm PT
He posts as crunch.
Mimi

climber
Mar 27, 2010 - 02:36pm PT
Correction noted.
Stewart Johnson

climber
yo mama
Mar 27, 2010 - 02:41pm PT
i sent donini petes digits already, in his e-mail.
Fuzzywuzzy

climber
suspendedhappynation
Mar 27, 2010 - 07:43pm PT
Mastadon speaks with him now and then.
Watusi

Social climber
Newport, OR
Mar 27, 2010 - 07:47pm PT
I remember Minksie well from back in the early '80's valley days...And what a cool guy he is! Would also love to hear from "Crusher" Bartlett as well, he and the "Fatties" (Strappo, and Roger Whitehead) were all pals of mine!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 27, 2010 - 10:28pm PT
I , me ,myself , and i , remember seeing this movie at the elks center in Long Beach back in 76 about this ascent of the eiger...Peter Minks, unroped....and unemployed ..(chuckles from the audience of smoked-out climbers) , takes a big slide and arrests himself from certain death...at some point the mention of packing loads ( stonemaster lore) drips off the soundtrack...a roar explodes from the crowd...idyllwild....Geoff Morgans pad....Let's listen to some umma gumma Peter....? ..Minks....that stuff puts me to sleep....Mono lake....1979...see minks tromping thru the sage at the 4th of july fireworks....haven't seen him since...? Tahoe...isn't that by Grindlewald?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 27, 2010 - 10:30pm PT
Where is Donini?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Mar 28, 2010 - 05:41am PT
I thought that the guy that took the spill was Cliff Phillips not Minks, but I have the issue of Mountain with the photo of the four of them in the matching outfits.
IV

climber
tahoe
Apr 2, 2010 - 01:56pm PT
Credit: IV
Pete, at his house in Tahoe City.
I walked up one day and he was sitting there in the sun reading "Hard Rock" wearing sunglasses and reading specs....classic Minksy!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2010 - 01:59pm PT
Got his number from SJ and talked to him- thanks!
Stewart Johnson

climber
yo mama
Apr 3, 2010 - 07:27am PT
two older brits still at it at donner
two older brits still at it at donner
Credit: Stewart Johnson
peter minks and adrian burgess
Rick A

climber
Boulder, Colorado
Apr 3, 2010 - 09:20am PT
In the summer of 1978, there was a group of climbers working construction in Idyllwild, including Pete.

If my memory serves, it was Pete who related a letter he'd received from his mother, back in Britain.

She noted that he was now residing in Idyllwild, California and wrote something like, "It sounds like you have found a town appropriate to your character."

(i.e, idle+wild)

Cheers to you Pete,
Rick
IV

climber
tahoe
Apr 3, 2010 - 06:17pm PT
Why Stewart, Isn't that Alan Burgess?
Stewart Johnson

climber
yo mama
Apr 4, 2010 - 07:14am PT
someone is paying attention to the old fart thread.
it is allen!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 8, 2010 - 09:32am PT
Minksie grappling with The Skull, one of North Wales hardest climbs.



A Tiger in his prime!
Reilly

Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
Apr 8, 2010 - 09:37am PT
I remember that cover! Ya mean he got olde? Good on him!
And why does it seem all those olde Limeys move over here?
I know they can't grow limes there, or not yet, so...
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 8, 2010 - 10:05am PT
You don't get on the cover of Mountain by being a punter!

The incomprehensible force that drove the Burgess brothers out into the Desert of Drink aka SLC leaves me in constant amazement! LOL

I bought a couple of Clog hooks from them in support of their beer kitty a while back.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 8, 2010 - 07:08pm PT
Another shot of Pete along with Leo Dickinson, Cliff Phillips and Eric Jones beneath the Eigerwand prior to the first filmed ascent.


Note the cameras and pile of film cannisters that they had to haul up the route!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 8, 2010 - 07:27pm PT
Thats the one where Phillips took the wild ride.

Whatever happened to Cliff anyway? (We did Royal Arches in December '76 with an unplanned bivy on top.) Last I heard somebody had seen him by some british lake all wrapped up in tin foil and waiting for the aliens to arrive.
Wonder

climber
WA
Apr 8, 2010 - 11:24pm PT
WELL, !!!
IV that is soooo classic
WTF
Masho told me the same.
He told me that that the Minksy lost his teeth drunk in the bar and he dosnt go out much any mo.
DUDE.
Where are you?
Post up bitch.
Me & Fritz will no dout about it will some day come to find you.
There is no WALL that will hide you.
Thanks for the car
How many years?
We will find you.
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Apr 9, 2010 - 10:57am PT
The story about Pete trying to retrieve the gazillion dollar crystal is one for the ages. Minks is a wonderful soul.

And recall his ascent of the North American Wall with Terry Goodykoontz around 1976. Another fantastic story.

Minx is a classic. Love to Pete!

JL
Stewart Johnson

climber
yo mama
Apr 9, 2010 - 05:48pm PT
stinkie on devaluation, donner summit. 2009
stinkie on devaluation, donner summit. 2009
Credit: brian biega
pete usually wears a piece of womens clothing whilst climbing!
leo Dickinson

Mountain climber
UK
Apr 10, 2010 - 08:52am PT
Minksy... did a lot of climbing with Pete in the 60's and 70's including the Eiger when I 'happened' to have the 16mm film camera running as Cliff Phillips slipped and fell 200ft. His comment as he landed was chilling...did you film me? Yes idiot it will go down a bomb with the viewers... Pete never slipped on the Eiger - only Cliff although I seem to remember another fall on the West Flank on the way down. If anyone wants to see the whole climb/film then I have just brought it out as a DVD. Its on my website www.AdventureArchive.com. Its taken me 40 years to get the film back from the TV company that made it and I have re-digitised it from the original nagative film and the quality is simply stunning... way way better than it ever was. Also the 6 photos used in it were originally only shown in B/White due to a Union Strike about colour. These have been replaced making the whole film look really good. The commentary was narrated by actor Patrick Allen (Danger Man on TV) and was so melodramatic that it almost gave Ken Wilson - publisher of MOUNTAIN - a heart attack.
Oddly it seems less naff than it did at the time. I'm sure people who see it will smile at this nostalig production. Best watched with a bottle of good Californian Wine.. Leo


leo Dickinson

Mountain climber
UK
Apr 10, 2010 - 10:45am PT
Minksy on the Skull...yes what a great story that was although Mollineux tells it best. The team consisted of Alan Rouse - Rousey - Minksy, Brian Mollineux and myself. The Skull was one of Martin Boysens hard climbs of the 60's so it was decided that Rousey would lead it. It was hard but Alan quickly ran up the crux as was his wont. He was simply the best climber I ever saw..now it was Minksy's turn and he found it harder - in fact so hard it looked like he wasn't going to do it. Now we had a problem. Alan was not going to give Pete a tight rope unless he asked for it...Pete was not going to ask for it! Brian said we will be here all night. Rousey decided that Minkys would have a better appreciation of the climb if he had 10 feet of slack rope in front of him. Pete was not amused. Brian told Pete to ask for a tight rope... Pete glared at him, "I've never asked for a tight rope in my life". Brian suggesated it was a good place to break that tradition...eventually Pete asked Alan to take in a bit... "I can't hear you" came the reply."do you want slack?" "No TIGHT" and so it went on. Brian & I just giggled on the stance. Eventually we all got up just as the sun was setting and rushed to the pub with Pete muttering that he hadn't actually needed tight... Of course not...


Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 10, 2010 - 01:52pm PT
A big international ST welcome to you, Leo!

Great stories!

I have been pondering your Eiger filming exploits in connection with this thread!

Please stay tuned as I will post some of the early Mountain articles for your comment and reflection.

You might find this Cerro Torre thread engaging! LOL

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=825943&msg=855561#msg855561
Ihateplastic

Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
Apr 10, 2010 - 02:59pm PT
WOA! Leo Dickinson steps in for a visit! I often wonder how many luminaries from days past are hanging in the wings waiting for something worthwhile to post to...

Nice to have you here Leo!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 11, 2010 - 09:09am PT
The rest of Leo's article from Mountain 13.



















"I never dropped it but I often felt like throwing it." -Job 1

Second best to a Yeti! Too damn funny!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 16, 2010 - 03:13pm PT
Eiger Bump!
scuffy b

climber
Where only the cracks are dry
Apr 16, 2010 - 03:21pm PT
I was shocked, actually, to see Leo Dickinson's post.
I thought, what the Hell is he doing in a place like this?

Welcome, Leo.
Please feel free to tell more tales like the wee one above.

"Did you say TIGHT?"

"No, not at all, just belay a bit Faster than I Climb, that's all..."
guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Apr 16, 2010 - 09:49pm PT
Big welcome to Leo.

What is Ken Wilson up to these days? Last time I saw him, late 70s, at our place in Santa Cruz where we had a great visit. Would love to get back in touch.

cheers
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Apr 16, 2010 - 10:39pm PT
yeah, get these studly British climbers to post up more often! Leo Dickinson, awesome~!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 17, 2010 - 09:20am PT
Come back Pete and Leo! And where's Donini, he started this thing?!?
Wonder

climber
WA
Apr 17, 2010 - 04:59pm PT
Yeah Steve, I think I will bump this. Maybe some more good stories will develop. Some one from Tahoe should point Minks in this direction.
Say Hi to Mimi from me.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 20, 2010 - 09:37am PT
Someone from Tahoe needs to grab Pete and escort him down to Bridwellfest!

Tom Carter or anyone else out there that knows Meastro Minks and can contact him about this little escapade, give it some thought!
leo Dickinson

Mountain climber
UK
May 18, 2010 - 02:33am PT
How very humbling that so many climbers remember us. Seems like only yesterday but its a lifetime.The Eiger played a big part in my life especially my second Eiger film with my long time adventurer Eric Jones making his solo ascent at the age of 46! Yes its not too late for you guys.

Cliff Phillips is still around but sadly not his original self although I'm not quite sure I ever knew. Talented - dedicated - and brilliant on both technical rock and hard alpine climbs and together with Eric they soloed a huge amount in both N Wales and the Alps. When Mick Burke reviewed Cliff's application to join the ACG (Alpine Climbing Group - an offshute of our Alpine Club) he remarked, "Bloody hell he's done more routes that the rest of the group put together."

I got in with 6 noted 'Grand Courses' such as the Phillip-Flamm on the Civetta, Brandler-Hasse on the Cima Grande (then done with aid! show off Germans!!!)the Bonatti Pillar (now fallen down from the Dru) but Cliff's list was 176 routes - truly impressive back then in the 60's. He soloed the N Face of the Piz Badille in 3.5 hrs. I suggest that without prior inspection that is still impressive.

But now what is happening to our most beautiful mountain on earth - Cerro Torre - (thanks whoever it was for sending me the Messner Trento Interview.) As always having Reinhold pontificate on a subject does get attention from the press but the story is best told by Rolo & Ermanno.

How have we got to this state where one country lord's the first ascent as the greatest thing since sliced bread and the rest of the world doesn't buy it.

When Ken Wilson, Pete Gillman (from the London Times) & myself for the BBC interviewed Maestri back in 1971 we met with a wall of obfuscation that has only got worse. Will the truth ever be told about Toni Egger and the first ascent?

and the latest saga - "These bolts on Cerro Torre need removing not adding to..." I guess this story will run and run

Leo Dickinson Devon UK May 2010








leo Dickinson

Mountain climber
UK
May 18, 2010 - 05:29am PT
How very humbling that so many climbers remember us. Seems like only yesterday but its a lifetime.The Eiger played a big part in my life especially my second Eiger film with my long time adventurer Eric Jones making his solo ascent at the age of 46! Yes its not too late for you guys.

Cliff Phillips is still around but sadly not his original self although I'm not quite sure I ever knew. Talented - dedicated - and brilliant on both technical rock and hard alpine climbs and together with Eric they soloed a huge amount in both N Wales and the Alps. When Mick Burke reviewed Cliff's application to join the ACG (Alpine Climbing Group - an offshute of our Alpine Club) he remarked, "Bloody hell he's done more routes that the rest of the group put together."

I got in with 6 noted 'Grand Courses' such as the Phillip-Flamm on the Civetta, Brandler-Hasse on the Cima Grande (then done with aid! show off Germans!!!)the Bonatti Pillar (now fallen down from the Dru) but Cliff's list was 176 routes - truly impressive back then in the 60's. He soloed the N Face of the Piz Badille in 3.5 hrs. I suggest that without prior inspection that is still impressive.

But now what is happening to our most beautiful mountain on earth - Cerro Torre - (thanks whoever it was for sending me the Messner Trento Interview.) As always having Reinhold pontificate on a subject does get attention from the press but the story is best told by Rolo & Ermanno.

How have we got to this state where one country lord's the first ascent as the greatest thing since sliced bread and the rest of the world doesn't buy it.

When Ken Wilson, Pete Gillman (from the London Times) & myself for the BBC interviewed Maestri back in 1971 we met with a wall of obfuscation that has only got worse. Will the truth ever be told about Toni Egger and the first ascent?

and the latest saga - "These bolts on Cerro Torre need removing not adding to..." I guess this story will run and run

Leo Dickinson Devon UK May 2010








Gordon Hibberd

Ice climber
Ayrshire Scotland
Aug 19, 2010 - 03:36pm PT
Just come across this site by mistake, and I have been out of the climbing scene for many many years actualy been solo sailing for the past years anyway I saw the Photos of Pete and one of the twins and thought I would comment. It was Cliff on the eiger who fell for the camera as I had just given him my Pterodaclye Ice axe when he fell and it saved his life. Jack Street and I were caught up in the filming at the time.I last saw pete when we did Point five on the Ben.Would very much like to know the year that was 1973 or 1974 Pete if you read this and I last saw the twins when we ran down the Eiger tunnel in 1973 and got away without paying.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Aug 19, 2010 - 09:44pm PT
Thanks for weighing in Leo and Gordon! The times and climbs live on gentlemen! This site is evidence of it! So please check in and tell a tale or two!

I was delighted to find out that Pete was in on the FFA of the Chouinard-Herbert on Sentinel with John Long and Erik Eriksson back in 1976. I would love to hear what anyone recalls about that outing!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 19, 2010 - 10:28pm PT
How very humbling that so many climbers remember us

Hard to know what to say to that other than I am as proud today to have
met you as I was that day in 197_ in Seattle. You are a great photographer
and an icon in many peoples' minds.
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Aug 20, 2010 - 08:07am PT
I was delighted to find out that Pete was in on the FFA of the Chouinard-Herbert on Sentinel with John Long and Erik Eriksson back in 1976. I would love to hear what anyone recalls about that outing!
--


Actually, some history got that one wrong. The FFA of Chouinard-Herbert was with another talented Brit named Pete: Pete Livesy. I did the FFA of the Chouinard-Pratt (most of it) with Minks, or Minksey, as Pete was affectionately know to his close friends.

A great man! Great stories.

And I grew up with Leo Dickenson and Ken Wilson media. They made climbing Iconic for us, as though it were an important international event.

JL
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Aug 20, 2010 - 11:01am PT
Largo- So was Erik there with you and Pete?

Have you posted anything about the Chouinard- Pratt near FFA? I would love to read what you can recall about that adventure!
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Aug 20, 2010 - 11:28am PT
Steve,

John wrote a bit about the Chouinard-Pratt in your 2008 thread where you posted his "Royal Scam" story:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=740075
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2010 - 11:30am PT
The wonderful thing about Peter is that no matter where he is he is likely up to no good- rage on Minsky!
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Aug 20, 2010 - 01:45pm PT
recently acquired the burgess book of lies and am developing marginalia on fibbage. willing to collaborate on an annotated edition.

i believe the first lie in the book involves being accepted immediately and heartily into an established oldfart yorkshire climbing club as snot-nosed 15-year-olds, slapped on the back, ales handed them freely. adolescent retrofantasy.

the second lie--a whole series, really--involves the details of john stanger's van driving in england and europe. that adrian and alan survived is obvious, but ...

we could do like the catholics do, print the lies in red. they call them rubrics. the word rube derives from that.

should i believe everything i read in this thread?
Fuzzywuzzy

climber
suspendedhappynation
Aug 20, 2010 - 04:59pm PT
SG -

Putting out the "feelers" here in Tahoe.

Minksie is nearby.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Aug 20, 2010 - 05:01pm PT
How did you and Pete team up John? Good belaying potential?!?
Blitzo

Social climber
Earth
Aug 20, 2010 - 06:30pm PT
Last time I saw him was in Tahoe City. Shizit! That was over 20 years ago!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jan 16, 2011 - 11:27am PT
Bump for Burgess brothers stories!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jul 24, 2011 - 08:35am PT
Who stole the Minks...and where can we find him?!?
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Jul 24, 2011 - 08:59am PT
Did the FA of The Silver Strand with Minks and Chappy, and we had a fine day of it. Minksie led the first pitch, and there was a bit of tension in the air as Mike Graham had taken a forty footer on it, injuring an ankle and nearly hitting the ground a few days earlier. He moved up it with the confidence of an experienced ice climber, something neither of us were, but began to fumble and curse about 10 ft above his first screw. Next thing we know, both his feet blow off, we brace for the fall, and all that comes down is a laugh and a big grin. He was just playing around, and finished the pitch effortlessly.

Funny chap that Minksie!

steve shea

climber
Jul 24, 2011 - 09:02am PT
Hey Leo thanks for the work on your Eiger solo film. I was almost out of money and would've had to return to Cham to hunt crystals to survive. The Pension des Alpes Alpiglen was more fun. How's Betsy Coed? All the best SS
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jul 24, 2011 - 09:02am PT
Great story Kevin! A frozen Largo butt scratch!
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Jul 24, 2011 - 09:09am PT
Wasn't that a Rockamazzo butt scratch, Steve?

Those Brits are a boisterous bunch
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Jul 24, 2011 - 09:25am PT
Great thread folks!!

Did anyone put up this trailer from the Eiger film??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhaJKjnqoeY

Awesome!!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 24, 2011 - 09:42am PT
Where is he? Well....let's see, could be anywhere but he's sure to be hungover.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Jul 24, 2011 - 10:01am PT
From the trailer -

"...aping accidents they may have to survive..."

sounds like Monty Python script...

And events on The Silver Strand

Ha, ha, ha...Minks would've fit right into a Monty Python movie - him and Al Harris!
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jul 24, 2011 - 10:56am PT
So many stories, so little time...

I thought that JL was on point...
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Aug 13, 2011 - 12:29pm PT
Minksie Bump!
Martin Fitch

climber
Tahoe City
Oct 7, 2011 - 10:41am PT
Just had a beer with Minksie last night!
IV

climber
tahoe
Jan 7, 2012 - 08:08pm PT
I'm so so sad to say, our dear friend and mentor is no longer with us. We love you Pete and we will strive to climb with as great a style as you showed us! Cheers,
Chip
Stewart Johnson

climber
lake forest
Jan 7, 2012 - 08:20pm PT
thanks for all the great times Peter, i love you man!
Credit: Stewart Johnson
Brian Biega

climber
Truckee, CA
Jan 7, 2012 - 09:22pm PT
My Condolences to all Peter Minks Friends and Family.

Peter- See you on the other side!

Cheers Mate
Black Feather

Mountain climber
Tahoe City, CA
Jan 9, 2012 - 08:14pm PT
So, Minksy passed away on his own terms january 7th. A memorial will be held january 14th at alpine meadows lodge from 5 to 8 pm. Slideshow and open mic, and probably his eiger movie in the background... email pics to dthatcher@skialpine.com, and we hope you all can attend. His sons Tim and Curtis will be there, and possibly other relatives via Skype...
Martin Fitch

climber
Tahoe City
Jan 14, 2012 - 04:19pm PT
RIP Peter Minks. Know that there are climbers out there that will never forget you and will always be inspired by your spirit. Climb on Minksie
Abenda

climber
Jan 14, 2012 - 06:05pm PT
Well what can I say. Not such good news. My heart wants to know what happened but really I dont want to know. I dont do wakes anymore.
I remember going together to his first son's baptism in Tahoe. We both were standing there in church wondering if God was going to smite us down at any minute.
I hope he got some new teeth before he died.

I called Fritz Fox to let him know.

Danm, another break in the wall.
KENNO

climber
Birkenhead. UK
Jan 23, 2013 - 02:04am PT
Pure curiosity I tapped in "Peter Minks" to see what would come up and there he was . Pete and a dear school teacher Roger Heywood introduced a few of us to the joys of climbing around 1968/69 when we would visit the Llanberis Pass and do a few short routes over the week-end or go for a day to Helsby Crag. I remember after Pete and Co, did the Eiger, they had a narrated film show about the ascent in Birkenhead town hall and it was called "The Legend Of The Evil Eiger North Face", the show was a bit amateurish what with Pete trying to narrate what happened as each slide was shown and trying not to swear,laugh or just be Peter.I had a lot of years climbing with my old school friend Johnny Girven and later with Pete's brother Alan, but alas as with a lot of things I got married and the week-ends got less and less and eventually I was too old to start up again. But on seeing the news of the sad passing of a giant,to me anyway,in climbing circles, I felt the need to write something. As a result of knowing Pete I had such great times and memories. God Bless you Pete and Rest in Peace.
Stewart Johnson

climber
lake forest
Jan 23, 2013 - 06:58am PT
im raising my glass again, thanks peter!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2013 - 07:16am PT
Peter was a great guy and a great climbing partner....we did the Nose together in 72 or 3. But let's face it he was part of that far too large fraternity of climbers who had their potential diminished by alcohol.
As a community we tend to idolize climbers who can be the life of the party and still send the next day. Ever notice that the best of them ended up with drastically shortened careers, and in many cases, difficult health and financial issues in their latter years.
Peter, when i met him in the 70's, idolized Don Whillans and tried to emulate him. Whillans was one of the most colorful climbers in history, but definetly not a person who's lifestyle deserved copying- he became quite obese and died of a heart attack at age 52.
I partied pretty hard with Peter but, early on, came to the conclusion that my lifestyle had to change.....when you are young you can get away with anything.
Funny how we almost revere young climbers who can party and perform but pity the same people when they are old.
chappy

Social climber
ventura
Jan 23, 2013 - 08:59am PT
Jim,
I couldn't agree with you more. I've seen far to many climbing buddies throw their lives away because they just couldn't come to terms with their partying and drinking. For most of us it was a phase, for some it became a life style with no future. Pete and I were real close for a number of years. If he were still with us I would have loved to reconnect with him. I will post the Silver Strand FA photos some time soon. Pete had a great lead up there.
Chappy
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jan 23, 2013 - 09:25am PT
Funny how we almost revere young climbers who can party and perform but pity the same people when they are old.


A fantastic observation. Jim Belushi anybody?

Oh right, he never got old...
jaaan

Trad climber
Chamonix, France
Jan 23, 2013 - 09:50am PT
Did you mean Jim or John Belushi?
IV

climber
tahoe
Feb 5, 2013 - 11:52pm PT
So nice of you to tell us how much Pete's "potential" was diminished by alcohol. Is climbing everything in life? Jim I wonder what people will say when your gone? Maybe they'll just wait till then to say what they really think.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2013 - 04:20am PT
IV, i understand where you are coming from but i was using climbing as a metaphor for life. I knew Peter pretty well in the 70's and my attraction to him was his personality not his climbing ability. I met Whillans around the same time (when he was far past his prime) and again we hit it off on a personal level....we never climbed together.

Both had impressive climbing resumes and personal charisma. If Peter or Don walked into a room, believe me, they were noticed. The climbing lifestyle has always had a bit of machismo and a "damn the torpedos" element to it. In England in the 70's, how hard you could party and "then" climb was a part of a climber's reputation.

I have known quite a few climbers who have had problems with drugs and/or alcohol. If i am frank in relating some of these "well known" facts, it is as a cautionary tale

I miss Peter and wish that we could have had a continued relationship after the 70's.

IV, if, after i am gone, some of the facts of my life can serve as a warning for others, i can think of no better epitaph.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Feb 6, 2013 - 09:41am PT
it is as a cautionary tale

straight up. Thanks for pointing straight at it instead of ignoring the elephant in the room, which is the usual pattern of eulogizing a freind. Truth is never disrespectful, in fact the opposite is.

All those old brits are a riot to hang with and I bet your friend was no exception!
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 6, 2013 - 10:38am PT
If, after i am gone, some of the facts of my life can serve as a warning for others, i can think of no better epitaph.

I'm almost sure there's a clever retort in there somewhere, but I've gotten too old and lame to think of it.
Stewart Johnson

climber
lake forest
Feb 8, 2013 - 06:40am PT
having to support your climbing via the trades was never easy.
ill toss back another pint for Pete and Don.
Scott McNamara

climber
Tucson, Arizona
Feb 8, 2013 - 07:04am PT
It would be kind of fun to have a funeral for Donini before he dies.

At least he would get to enjoy it and set the record straight!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Feb 8, 2013 - 09:52am PT
As far as I can see donini's life is hardly a cautionary tale unless research reveals some sort of negative consequence to freebasing geritol.
IV

climber
tahoe
Feb 8, 2013 - 07:35pm PT
One would think a cautionary tale as it relates to Minsky's life should be well informed. Pete was diagnosed with lymphatic cancer, a known cause of blood clots which was what took him from us. Is passing away surrounded with family and Numerous close friends something that should be seen as part of your "cautionary tale"? Being close with Pete for the last 10 years of his life, I can envision him laughing at the idea of you pitying him as he was one of the happiest people I've known. He would of told you to .. off anyway. It seems fitting, as you look down upon how you think Pete lived, he now looks down upon you from a significant height. (20,320 ft)
Pete Minks carabiner and knifeblade
Pete Minks carabiner and knifeblade
Credit: IV
Brian Biega

climber
Truckee, CA
Feb 9, 2013 - 09:07am PT
Bloody Mary please?

Cheers to All!

Brian
Stewart Johnson

climber
lake forest
Feb 9, 2013 - 09:05pm PT
jim. i mean what kind of hideous sour puss are you?
toss off.
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