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Weld_it

Trad climber
Chatsworth
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 24, 2010 - 01:39pm PT
What is an acceptable failure rate for welded shuts as lower off anchors? I've been welding some up in shop class and have since found out that the welds are not really that strong (at least the way I'm doing it LOL) Since there are always two at an anchor how big of a problem is this?

And before you flame me, I know what I'm doing (3rd year of shop) and have been climbing a long time (2 years +) so save your hate for someone else.
scuffy b

climber
Where only the cracks are dry
Feb 24, 2010 - 01:40pm PT
50% or so sounds OK.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Feb 24, 2010 - 01:51pm PT
Sounds a bit scary... hopefully someone that knows somethign will chime in, interesting.

I personally am saving my hate for Simon Cowell.

He's such a jerk. And I always sing out of key, its my style.
Some wounds just don't heal.



Best of luck!
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Feb 24, 2010 - 01:59pm PT
I wouldn't expect them to basically EVER fail.
So maybe...50 years MTBF?

have been climbing a long time (2 years +)

When I'd been climbing "2 years +", I didn't feel like I'd been climbing a long time.

Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, California
Feb 24, 2010 - 02:03pm PT



2 years=n00b
DCCC

Trad climber
Castle Rock, CO
Feb 24, 2010 - 02:04pm PT
From my experience, welded coldshuts are plenty strong for lowering off at the belay when placed in tandem.
The real issue with coldshuts is that the repeated use of lowering and toproping wears grooves into the relatively soft metal.
I have been working on replacing many twenty year old coldshut anchors at my local crags.
I would advise against using shuts as protection on route since they are inadequate for repeated falls.
As with all lowering station anchors, cold shuts get grooved with repeated use and require periodic replacement.
This is why it is generally preferable to use something like the beefy Fixe anchors with quick links, chain and descending rings, as the descending rings are more easily replaced.
Srbphoto

Trad climber
Kennewick wa
Feb 24, 2010 - 02:06pm PT
What is an acceptable failure rate for welded shuts as lower off anchors?

If I'm climbing, zero. If your climbing, as many ground falls as you're willing and able to take.
guyman

Trad climber
Moorpark, CA.
Feb 24, 2010 - 02:12pm PT
Weld-it..... Zero failure is about right.

How are you testing em?

Are you the person who is putting in "new stations" at Stoney?

GK
Prezwoodz

climber
Anchorage
Feb 24, 2010 - 02:14pm PT
For me I would say the acceptable rate for failure at regular loads is 0. If it breaks after 500lbs or so of pressure thats just not good enough. Also ive been climbing for 7 years or so and I still feel like a noob lots of the time. Its best not to think your a professional or anything to early, you stop learning that way.

Think about it this way, if your girlfriend was rappelling on it over and over again 300ft off the ground, Would you feel comfortable?
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Feb 24, 2010 - 02:14pm PT
If done right, the welds will be as strong as the original metal. Weld certifications test for this and you should not be able to break the part at the weld any easier than you can break the part anywhere else. What welding technique and materials are you using? What are the parts made from? Is this fusion welding or some other technique like brazing (which is not appropriate for this type of application)?

Can you post pictures of the welds before and after failing?

Dave
the kid

Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
Feb 24, 2010 - 02:25pm PT
welded shuts are low budge junk. they wear out fast and are not too strong.

take the time to do it right and use far better systems available today.
ks
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
Feb 24, 2010 - 02:28pm PT
welded shuts are probably a bad idea for anchor set ups due to the above reasons listed above for 'cold shuts' (which you were not asking about cold shuts, to be clear here). If you are using stud anchor bolts (not my preferred anchor) and the shuts are easily removable, then there may be room for using them, but your welds must be (as mentioned above) equal in strength to the metal around them. I'm not a welder and I know this much.

if you list your test methods I'm sure there are plenty of smart folks here with plenty of climbing experience.

since this is your first post here, folks may think you are trolling. if you are so be it. but more info is needed to answer your question if not.

jstan

climber
Feb 24, 2010 - 02:31pm PT
Weld-it:
What answer would give another who asks what you ask but who has climbed for one year and has taken no shop?

Would you feel that person was fully qualified to make decisions that potentially could cost you your life?

You are proposing something extremely serious. You need to know that.
hagerty

Social climber
A Sandy Area South of a Salty Lake
Feb 24, 2010 - 02:37pm PT
And before you flame me, I know what I'm doing (3rd year of shop)...
Judging by your question, apparently not.
...and have been climbing a long time (2 years +)...
No, you haven't. Not by a long shot.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville
Feb 24, 2010 - 02:43pm PT
"What is an acceptable failure rate for welded shuts as lower off anchors? I've been welding some up in shop class and have since found out that the welds are not really that strong (at least the way I'm doing it LOL) Since there are always two at an anchor how big of a problem is this?

And before you flame me, I know what I'm doing (3rd year of shop) and have been climbing a long time (2 years +) so save your hate for someone else."[/]

No hate here my friend but if you have to ask questions like this on a public forum YOU SHOULD NOT BE CONSTRUCTING ANCHORS THAT WILL BE PLACED ANYWHERE.

Get your Welding license (Los Angeles City has the most stringent qualifications and is acknowledged worldwide) and your American Welding Society (AWS) Certification and you will know the answers to your questions.
apogee

climber
Feb 24, 2010 - 02:43pm PT
And before you flame me, I know what I'm doing (3rd year of shop)...

...and have been climbing a long time (2 years +)...


Is this a troll?
kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Feb 24, 2010 - 02:49pm PT
apogee - bingo I think you should be nominated for todays taco Spot A Troll award!!

kev
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Feb 24, 2010 - 02:55pm PT
welded shuts are non-accepted.

use climbing hardware not home depot hardware!
froodish

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Feb 24, 2010 - 03:00pm PT
@DCCC
The real issue with coldshuts is that the repeated use of lowering and toproping wears grooves into the relatively soft metal.

And non-intuitively, that can make them stronger (although the sharp edges can damage a rope):

http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en-us/journal/climb/qclab/qc-lab-worn-anchors

locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 24, 2010 - 03:01pm PT

HAS to be a "TROLL"...


"and have been climbing a long time (2 years +)"...






BINGO!!! Edit:



"if you have to ask questions like this on a public forum YOU SHOULD NOT BE CONSTRUCTING ANCHORS THAT WILL BE PLACED ANYWHERE."...

The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Feb 24, 2010 - 03:03pm PT
You know what's interesting? Google has already crawled this page... I searched on the text to see if it was a recycled troll, and this page came up.

Remind me to not lower off of cold shuts near Chatsworth.
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 24, 2010 - 03:05pm PT
One POST and it's a DOOZY of STUPIDITY...

My guess is it's Juan de Troller or someone along THOSE lines...




EDITED:

Plus the name Weld-it etc...

and the OBVIOUSLY stupid as fuk questions...



locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 24, 2010 - 03:17pm PT
Now we KNOW it s "TROLL"...


LOL!!!...


and it's so fuking STUPID it's funny as hell...








EDITED:

"Practis weld"...

Too funny!!!...


Practis...










"Practis" EDIT:


"I've repelled for years before that too."...


Even funnier NOW...





androo.daveass

climber
Portland
Feb 24, 2010 - 03:20pm PT
So you want other people to trust their lives to something that you made in your high school shop class?

Please cut up your harness and take up free soloing. Maybe if you're core enough you can use all of your rappelling experience and do a free-solo-rappel too.
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 24, 2010 - 03:22pm PT

LOL!!!...


"GUD" sh!t man...


Troll on!!!...




EDITED:

"I'm just trying to save lives."...

CLASSIC!!!...



Try the "Blue Dildo"...

it's PROBABLY right next to you...




steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Feb 24, 2010 - 03:26pm PT
I'd give it T2
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 24, 2010 - 03:27pm PT


...

guyman

Trad climber
Moorpark, CA.
Feb 24, 2010 - 03:33pm PT

GK: I think I know you from Stoney. My bro has placed some new bolts out there, but I think he took them out.


I think they fell out, it was pretty windy last tuesday.

So I wonder how the welded-shuts will hold up when the hi-liners put them to the "test".

steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Feb 24, 2010 - 03:39pm PT
The genius of this kind of troll is that a lot of nOObs I see at the crags today seem to have no problem declaring themselves seasoned climbers after only two years, so when you initially read something like that, there's a very good chance it might be genuine.

Bravo Batten.
jstan

climber
Feb 24, 2010 - 03:41pm PT
This is probably the most effective attack on fixed protection I have seen.

Dang! Why didn't I think of this?

No. On second thought this will only mean there will be 100 color coded bolts at each station. If people were to put name tags on the anchors they had put in and so were willing to trust, they might get sued when they fail. So they all will be anonymously color coded. You could even encrypt your coding. Keep a record of blue here red there. Chris' topos could help us there. Blue at Suicide is good, red not so much.

But then there will be countermeasures. Someone can go up and paint everything blue. Belay that!. Red. Yes red. Definitely. Then all 100 will have to be replaced with graffiti resistant hardware.

Then what?

I'm thinking!

I'm thinking!
kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Feb 24, 2010 - 03:55pm PT
GK: I think I know you from Stoney. My bro has placed some new bolts out there, but I think he took them out.


Maybe we should as welder-boy's bro about his opinions on 3/8inch bolt removal. Could he maybe make a DIY page for us?

This is one of the funnier trolls of late though.

kev
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 24, 2010 - 04:26pm PT


I'm fuking DYING over here...

LOL!!!...

locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 24, 2010 - 04:37pm PT


As heard over the loudspeakers at the Woodstock Festival...





































"DON'T take the BLUE DILDO!!!"...

nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Feb 24, 2010 - 04:42pm PT
"repelled for years"

Damn.... dude has been repelling ladies for years. I guess you might was well weld if you are not getting laid.


kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Feb 24, 2010 - 04:47pm PT
Weld-it,

Can your brother make a bolt removal tutorial for us? We'd love to see it!!!

Locker,

Play nice. This is a baby troll - it doesn't bite. Hell it doesn't even appear to have teeth....Lots of people here can chime in with how long they've found me repelling for.

kev
apogee

climber
Feb 24, 2010 - 04:57pm PT
Did you 'repel' from one of your 'practis' welded shuts?

stooopid.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:05pm PT
Nature beat me to it.

Bastard.
kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:09pm PT
Weld-it,

Got anymore camp photos. You user id camp photo is classic.
mstearns

Trad climber
Salt Lake City, UT
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:09pm PT
The pictures that keep are appearing are priceless.

I can't believe how hilarious this thread has gotten in just a short time.
bmacd

Trad climber
Beautiful BC
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:11pm PT

If you have any nude shots of your Mom, those should be posted too
jstan

climber
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:18pm PT
Calling Lois. Calling Lois. You are needed over here.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:19pm PT
LEB welds GUD
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:38pm PT
maybe Ragmeat decided to pay us a visit?
kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:44pm PT
Damn it keep LEB out of this. Don't go and ruin a good post!

Weld-it,

Those are some rad lookin routes over at Northridge Fashion Center.
Did you have to take extra course work to guide there? How's the pay.
Do they tip well?

kev
socialclimber

Mountain climber
CA
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:44pm PT
I'm sorry to ask this, but where do you live? How old are you? Does your mother know you have re-routed her internet to her basement so you can use it?

Thanks...just the facts pleeze....

edit: and one last question, where were you guiding them (this is the only legitimate question in here)?
Ricardo Cabeza

climber
All Over.
Feb 24, 2010 - 05:46pm PT
I always thought you could just gorilla glue them shut instead of welding.
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 24, 2010 - 07:11pm PT

"And I was a guide at the Northridge Fashion Center mall over Christmas"...

Talk about another...

"I just fuking inhaled my SPIT", moment...

Dude...

that ABOVE line is HILARIOUS!!!...










EDITED:

I am actually laughing outloud to myself right now...

This SH!T is GREAT!!!...





"Here I am aceing my Outward Bound level two requirements, first try."...

And that fuking photo...

PERFECT choice...

GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Feb 24, 2010 - 07:19pm PT
Social... here's two pennies... buy a clue... lol.... todd gordon style posting.... for the... win.......
EdBannister

Mountain climber
CA
Feb 24, 2010 - 07:24pm PT
funny but somehow twisted sad....

anyway:

SMC seamless rap rings, and this is off the top of my head from waaaaayyyy back, fail at a static load of 2200 lbs. two of those on two slings were enough to rap off of, but never lower, because they were too soft.
chains and stainless?? I'll leave that to someone more qualified on this short route lower me off tech...

somehow left wanting here: I kept expecting to read

"Yer Gonna Die"

locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 24, 2010 - 07:28pm PT


"Here is two of my bros pulling down"...



"Pulling down"...

So THAT's what they're doing...

I was WONDERING...


locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 24, 2010 - 08:33pm PT
...

"Tough route at NOLS camp"...



absoulutly fuking HILARIOUS...










EDITED:

"my brother Chet"...


...


Brother from another Mother...


...




kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Feb 24, 2010 - 08:35pm PT
Weld-it,

Where do I sign up! I bet you get laid alot huh?

kev
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Feb 24, 2010 - 08:36pm PT
Rajmit has been one-upped.

LOL!!!!1111169
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 24, 2010 - 08:43pm PT

I don't know exactly WHY...

But this shot KEEPS cracking me up...

...






EDITED:

"Rajmit has been one-upped."...


Rajmit has been ten-upped!!!...

This sh!t is funny as hell...

socialclimber

Mountain climber
CA
Feb 24, 2010 - 08:50pm PT
GD, why are you being a kill-joy, just having a bit of fun...sheesh...don't be a dick.
Charles

And T.G. you are not...
MisterE

Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
Feb 24, 2010 - 09:10pm PT
Really funny. Good ones, Weld-it.

:)

Seriously, the ABSOLUTE WORST are the open-shuts that people hammer shut. Makes the weakest point the very place where the rope runs...

Absolute inability to consider the consequences of one's actions = IDIOT.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Feb 24, 2010 - 09:18pm PT
It's been a long time since we had a good trolling.

Though this one is pretty pathetic it has a certain quality that I find sweet and endearing.


C'mon... tell us how old you're trying to be?
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 24, 2010 - 09:35pm PT
You guys are easy. A climber from Chatsworth? Heeellllooooo!!!!!!!!
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Feb 24, 2010 - 09:43pm PT
best thread ever!
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 24, 2010 - 09:45pm PT


"A climber from Chatsworth?"...


Gary...

though I spotted it and KNEW it was a "TROLL" the moment I read it...

You just never know...


We have a "CLIMBER" from Florida that posts on this "CLIMBERS FORUM"...

LOL!!!...

bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Feb 24, 2010 - 09:47pm PT
leb is from florida?
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 24, 2010 - 09:50pm PT
Fuking A...

LOL!!!...

Not LEB...

you got me on that one...





EDITED:

I "SHUD" add...

I am from FLORIDA...(Left at 17 though)

So is another FRIEND that posts here on occassion...

But there is ANOTHER dude that currently LIVES in Florida that POSTS here sometimes...


climbrunride

Sport climber
Purgatory
Feb 24, 2010 - 10:08pm PT
"me doing Loose Bowels, V0-"

hahahhaha
DAMMIT!
*spit beer on my keyboard!*
mark miller

Social climber
Reno
Feb 24, 2010 - 10:18pm PT
I've been climbing for 32 years and welding for about 2....If one of my welds ever failed (usually structural) It would Knott be acceptable by any standards. Work on your welds and after you've logged a few routes on the Captain and Denali, let us know if your welds are still suspect.

Locker everybody knows the only thing from Florida are " Steers and Queers, and boy you don't look like a steer." Courtesy of the great "Gunny" himself.
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 24, 2010 - 10:23pm PT

sure wish Weld_it "WUD" show back up and post some more GOODIES...

This REALLY has been a FUN "thread"...

Quite ENTERTAINING...

Larry

Trad climber
Bisbee
Feb 24, 2010 - 11:13pm PT
When you can explain the 3 sigma rule you will know the answer to "What is an acceptable failure rate for welded shuts as lower off anchors?".
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, California
Feb 24, 2010 - 11:23pm PT

I think THIS pic is another one of
weld its classes he was enrolled in.

photo not found
Missing photo ID#146999
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Feb 24, 2010 - 11:29pm PT
Hey Weld_it,

Who left the dog turd on your shop project?

Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 24, 2010 - 11:34pm PT
though I spotted it and KNEW it was a "TROLL" the moment I read it...

You just never know...


We have a "CLIMBER" from Florida that posts on this "CLIMBERS FORUM"...

Does Batten have to hit you guys over the head with a UCLA coed before you get it?
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Feb 24, 2010 - 11:38pm PT
But I got to say


dog turd!
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 25, 2010 - 12:04am PT
So true!
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
Feb 25, 2010 - 12:22am PT
Weld_it = Russ?
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Feb 25, 2010 - 12:26am PT
this is such a bad troll. Breaks four of the first five rools of trolling.


It's not Russ. Dude's way better than this.
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Feb 25, 2010 - 02:52am PT
Can you let us know which climbing certificates you have?
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
Feb 25, 2010 - 03:43am PT
"Climbing is more than just clippin bolts and hatin' yo."

Werd homie!

"I am doing the Nose this Spring and totally going to do some anchor replacement."

Yea, you could hook up with Nanook.

BTW.."resting at the crux of radness"... Friggin' classic!!
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Feb 25, 2010 - 08:28am PT
It's all good bro. ...
Climbing is more than just clippin bolts and hatin' yo.

Holy crap! It's Lynne!!!
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
Under the Macabre Roof
Feb 25, 2010 - 08:30am PT
Cool no hands rest, man.
kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Feb 25, 2010 - 11:30am PT
I donno, I think he's not resting. He's just starting one radass dyno.

Weld-it,

Maybe you should come out to shuteye and help us with new route development. Also talk to Werner - i'm sure he'd love to have you on his team...especially with your repelling skills! That keeps the bears away too!

Locker and Russ,

Don't one of you have a spot open for an intern? Hook up a brah!

kev
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 25, 2010 - 01:02pm PT

"I'm working on a bolt hanger desine and would love to instal some at your area."...



This for me so far has been one of the MOST "Entertaining" threads to come along, in a LONG time...



Fuking CLASSIC!!!...


LOL!!!...









EDITED:


"new mega clip bolt hanger test"...


"GUD" damn that's some FUNNY sh!t!!!...

Jim E

climber
away
Feb 25, 2010 - 01:04pm PT
Just for more laughs...

What is an acceptable failure rate for welded shuts as lower off anchors?

OK... define failure. At what load?
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 25, 2010 - 01:09pm PT


"Locker and Russ,

Don't one of you have a spot open for an intern?"
...



NOT sure about Russ...

But there is an INITIATION one HAS to go thru to HANG with the likes of yours truly...

Think...





































"BLUE DILDO"...




nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Feb 25, 2010 - 01:18pm PT
Do some more weed

ho' man!

That sounds like something this guy would say, yo!




I love the well placed misspeelings. But sadly it's one of the troll give aways.
Reilly

Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
Feb 25, 2010 - 01:40pm PT
Weld,
Keep up the good work bra! This is good stuff!
I fear you might have your machine set a little hot though,
you're getting a little too much 'penetration'.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Feb 25, 2010 - 03:21pm PT
"What is an acceptable failure rate for welded shuts as lower off anchors? I've been welding some up in shop class and have since found out that the welds are not really that strong (at least the way I'm doing it LOL) Since there are always two at an anchor how big of a problem is this? And before you flame me, I know what I'm doing (3rd year of shop) and have been climbing a long time (2 years +) so save your hate for someone else."

ROTFLMAO - THIS IS A BORED RUSS WALLING AS ANOTHER PERSONA! BWAHHHHHAA!

You dudes were trolled! Dude says he's: "have been climbing a long time (2 years +) so save your hate for someone else"
BWAHHHHHAA!

LOL -profile picture - LOL
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Feb 25, 2010 - 03:23pm PT
Uh couch... most of us realized this is a troll.

couchmaster

climber
pdx
Feb 25, 2010 - 03:24pm PT
oh...


nevermind ...
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Feb 25, 2010 - 03:25pm PT
actually... it took until the 15th post when apogee asked. Locker knew. It was obvious to me. But yeah... bit of a stringer Russ has running. :-)
jstan

climber
Feb 25, 2010 - 03:35pm PT
Apogee first asked the question on post 16. A couple posts later Locker, as usual, put his high reputation on the line.

We have first rate data showing no one reads preceeding posts. New people will still be falling in at post 500.
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 25, 2010 - 04:29pm PT


"A couple posts later Locker, as usual, put his high reputation on the line."...


A "High Reputation" is NOT to be taken LIGHTLY....



;-)
divad

Trad climber
wmass
Feb 25, 2010 - 04:36pm PT
I think we got us a refugee from rc.com
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 25, 2010 - 04:55pm PT
...


"Scooters slack line"...


...

"Tough route at NOLS camp"...



nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Feb 25, 2010 - 04:58pm PT
OK then Weld_it... if you are not a troll then the one thing you can to to help people out:

Stop welding. You obviously suck at it.

though I will say good luck with getting AMGA certified. you probably don't stand a chance but hey... what do I care.

Otherwise... keep on with the trolling. The crazy thing is there's still a few more fishes.








HEY!!!! IT LOOKS LIKE CHUM!!!!
MisterE

Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
Feb 25, 2010 - 05:05pm PT
Mmmm....chum sushi! Do you have something in Campbell river sockeye? ;)
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Feb 25, 2010 - 05:10pm PT
I love the Karl Baba signature "PEace". Troll is trying a little too hard. But with this crew that doesn't really matter. Ragmeat use to troll the sh#t outta this place. It was obvious yet an embarrassing number of Tacostanderers kept biting. He's the king. This is weak sauce compared.


Campbell river Sockeye chum. I'll order some just for you. There's a place in Compton I think I can get it. I hear they also are a weld supply shop. Go figure, eh?
xtrmecat

Big Wall climber
Kalispell, Montanagonia
Feb 25, 2010 - 06:00pm PT
Dude, chum/sushi or not. Stop welding things that people need to stay alive. As a tradesman since high school, your work is nowhere near ready to go out into mainstream anything. It really is bad. Your trolling is almost as bad. And guides usually get interviewed by clients, even slow thinking nieve ones. And I doubt you are ready for an interview, let alone something like picking "the Nose".

Bob
kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Feb 25, 2010 - 06:04pm PT
xtremities,

Leave our pet troll alone. We like weld-it.

Is that a rifle in the background in your pic. You been hangin with Minerals or Mucci?

kev
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, California
Feb 25, 2010 - 06:13pm PT
I wonder if Weld__it is
also The fake Roxjok and the fake comiccragsman and the fake locker???

He is HILARIOUS, tho!!!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, California
Feb 25, 2010 - 06:18pm PT

This look like something T*R would wear in her auto shop class.




Maybe Weld it is T*R on one of her binges.


:)


Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, California
Feb 25, 2010 - 07:30pm PT
^^^
Welded the right way, I rap off that.




What is that piece of metal between the 2 welded links at the bottom.
Is that to beef it up so the links don't wear down as fast from the
rope pulling thru it?
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 25, 2010 - 07:32pm PT



"THREAD DRIFT"...























































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TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Feb 25, 2010 - 07:44pm PT
Weld-it,

Is this really your chosen career path?

If you ever do figure out how to run a decent bead you might consider this;

Welders are the whores of the construction industry.

All they ever do is complain that they need,


















More rod,

More heat,

and More money.

locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 25, 2010 - 08:39pm PT


...

locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 25, 2010 - 08:42pm PT


Talk about a "WELD"...

photo not found
Missing photo ID#147106
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Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, California
Feb 25, 2010 - 09:02pm PT
"like duh! Do you even climb?"




Yeah, I've been climbing a couple 3 years or so.
Probably not as good a climber as you, tho.
MisterE

Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
Feb 25, 2010 - 09:06pm PT
^^LOL^^
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
Feb 25, 2010 - 09:11pm PT


and I love that 3/4"? drill bit! Hahahaha!

Dood, that's a schweet rig, bro.
Gary

climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Feb 25, 2010 - 09:13pm PT
My favorite Weld:
climbrunride

Sport climber
Purgatory
Feb 25, 2010 - 09:15pm PT
"What is an acceptable failure rate for welded shuts as lower off anchors?"

Depends on a lot of factors.

-Like which state are you in? In CA, 50% to 75% should be fine. There are plenty of other climbers to replace those who find some of those bad welds. In ND, not so many climbers, so maybe only 20% failure rate would cut it. And in FL, best to keep it to about 0.05%, since there is only one climber in the whole state.

-And how many shuts are you placing at an anchor. One, two, three? Ten is actually a pretty safe number and helps the rope to run really smooth too.

-Failure is such an ethereal term. How do you define it? Because everything comes apart at some point. If you design each one for a lifespan of 50 lowers-off, then if it breaks on the 53 rEppel, then it didn't fail, it was merely past its expected lifetime. The 51st and 52nd people to rap off it got a total bonus!

But don't worry too much about that stuff for now - they should cover most of it all in the fourth year of shop.

Hope this helps.
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Feb 25, 2010 - 09:33pm PT
Geeezus Marty.... do you even read? This guy is a troll (and a bad one at that). Why bother?!?!?! (good tips though ;-)


There isn't much you can learn from Batten but trolling.... oh wait. I mean Ragmeat. Or LEB DMT Russ Walling.
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 26, 2010 - 01:54am PT


photo not found
Missing photo ID#147135
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kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Feb 26, 2010 - 11:31am PT
Hahahah, love the shot of the naked chic with the cut saw, she's using a $30 ryobee - classic.

kev
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Feb 26, 2010 - 11:44am PT
I'm sorry weld... I didn't realize that being entertained by your troll made me a loser. But you're a sharp kid and I'm sorta dumb so I'll just put my loser tail between my legs and go back to not being entertained.

you too medusa... "L"oser ;-)
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Feb 26, 2010 - 06:14pm PT

Stupid or not...

This thread is fuking HILARIOUS...

kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Feb 26, 2010 - 06:16pm PT
I'm with you locker. Funniest troll ever!

kev
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Feb 26, 2010 - 06:24pm PT
mentally... yes... absolutely. Why do you ask?


hey locker... you know you've posted to this thread more than I have. that makes you a bigger "L"oser. We should celebrate with a bowl.

This troll is pretty funny. I cracked up with the picture of his Asian "homies".
climbrunride

Sport climber
Purgatory
Feb 26, 2010 - 11:56pm PT
* can't stop laughing *

-and it's not just the vodka-

I think this troll is so funny partly because of the unsophisticated Nature of it. Even I can get it LOL. We all come together at this virtual campfire and have this e-relationship to each other, but lame s#!t like this Weld_It all together for us.




I'm going to WalMart at midnight and buying me a welder!!! Do they sell hardware too?


EDIT: maybe I shud get a designated driver. LOCKER - ya anywhere near Durango???
kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Mar 2, 2010 - 11:52am PT
Damn it - knew I needed to hang the 'the mart' more often...
Tork

climber
Yosemite
Mar 2, 2010 - 12:08pm PT
Kev, I said....






































































GET BACK TO WORK





















































































NOW!
kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Mar 2, 2010 - 12:10pm PT
Yes sir masser....

:)
Mason

Trad climber
Yay Area
Mar 2, 2010 - 12:57pm PT
GDavis:

OMG! I hate Simon Cowell, too!!

Mason

Trad climber
Yay Area
Mar 2, 2010 - 01:09pm PT
Sorry to all the detectives out there, but I'm not "russ". I'm jess a guy trying out some knew ideas and looking for advice. Runnin g into all ya'll haters I guess was exepted.

PEace


kat in the hat LOL
kat in the hat LOL
Credit: Weld_it

Lynne??
Ricardo Cabeza

climber
All Over.
Mar 2, 2010 - 01:28pm PT
Weld-it wrote;

'Why you rollin the hate trane bra?'


One of the funniest lines ever!
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
Will know soon
Mar 2, 2010 - 02:03pm PT
Not likely, I won't even belay half the time.

I have learned alot tho from this Thread. When I top rope and there are bolts etc. for anchors I will be SUR to ask whoever sets the rope if anything up there was welded. If it is......I'm watchin. I don't trust welds. Period. Especially after reading this Thread. lynnie
locker

Social climber
Oryay Ommamay
Mar 2, 2010 - 03:33pm PT


"most welds is stronger that the rock"...


I'm speechless...

That's Papajoto to you son!!!!!

Social climber
Oatmeal Arizona
Mar 15, 2010 - 06:45pm PT
WOW!!!
ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Mar 16, 2010 - 09:33am PT
RUST! That's been my experience. It's not the strength of the weld but how do you finish it? There's no way. Even if you had it powder coated. Welds rust fast.

I did not take the time to read through the entire post, sorry if I missed something.

Arne
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Mar 16, 2010 - 12:08pm PT
bad belays kill more people that bad welds.

Worth remembering and repeating - heh heh..Snicker....
JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Peenemunde
Mar 16, 2010 - 07:07pm PT
Weld-It we still up for the Nose. I plan to chop a bolt on Pitch 3. But the anchors down from Sickle could use some of your welded shunts.

Juan
locker

Social climber
Desert
Mar 17, 2010 - 12:52pm PT


"She is trying to keep me from conkering El Cap by saying she is pregnant"...



L O fuking L!!!...
The LG

Sport climber
Salt Lake City
Mar 17, 2010 - 02:46pm PT
Check this link for an official rundown of "cold shut" specs from a group of climbing engineers. I've been climbing for "a long time" (15+ years) and I've certainly lowered off of welded shuts as well as double open shuts. The problem isn't that that they have a certain percentage or chance of failing, what seems to be the real pickle is that when they fail, it's more or less catastrophic. Ask yourself when placing anchors, will these last for the next twenty years? Or better yet, will these anchors that I just placed fail and kill someone? Food for thought....

http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en-us/journal/climb/qclab/qc-lab-worn-anchors
kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Mar 17, 2010 - 02:48pm PT
LG you lack the ability to read don't you...Read the thread, the whole thread, and nothing but the thread!
Mimi

climber
Apr 29, 2010 - 12:29am PT
With welds like those, your brains will be one with the rocks of Yosemite and Tahquitz. Like the jagged ones at the bottom.

Give it up jackass!!
Mimi

climber
Apr 29, 2010 - 12:33am PT
Oh, please let's see your new welds. Are they nice and bubbly?
locker

Social climber
Over yonder
Apr 29, 2010 - 12:36am PT



"My welds ROCK!"...









































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Mimi

climber
Apr 29, 2010 - 12:38am PT
OMG! HOw many weeks did it take for those to cool down?! Dang!
locker

Social climber
Over yonder
Apr 29, 2010 - 12:38am PT


"DAMNIT JIM!!!"...

I was just SECONDS off with my above post...






...

STILL cracks me up...


chez

Social climber
chicago ill
Apr 29, 2010 - 12:45am PT
I be weldin it he be they be she be duh. i tink my synapse be welded yo!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 29, 2010 - 12:52am PT
Geez, and to think I've seen some good welding in the shipyards of Seattle and the Alaskan Pipeline. WHOA! - I bow and scrape in awe!
locker

Social climber
Over yonder
Apr 29, 2010 - 12:56am PT


Credit: locker
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Credit: locker
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Mimi

climber
Apr 29, 2010 - 12:56am PT
Dem welds be bowin' and scrapin' too! Yo!
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
Apr 29, 2010 - 01:04am PT
If Weld_it isn't Russ, then we may have a new contender for "funiest poster" on ST.
I mean come on, you gotta admit, this picture is pretty f'in funny.
Mimi

climber
Apr 29, 2010 - 01:09am PT
Dat be Weld-it's beotch!? No way yo!
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
Apr 29, 2010 - 01:09am PT
Oh boy, she looks like a stick welder to me.
locker

Social climber
Over yonder
Apr 29, 2010 - 01:17am PT


"If Weld_it isn't Russ"...


You don't SUPPOSE???...



















































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Missing photo ID#155488
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Mimi

climber
Apr 29, 2010 - 01:30am PT
That's not Russ. He often looks like this in public. He requires a cloak to conceal his incomparable manhood.

locker

Social climber
Over yonder
Apr 29, 2010 - 01:44am PT


"Russ dont exeactly look Asain to me"...







































Credit: locker
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Lost Arrow

Trad climber
The North Ridge of the San Fernando
Apr 29, 2010 - 04:49am PT
weld it i am serious about the Nose.

Email me.

Juan
Roxy

Trad climber
CA Central Coast
Apr 29, 2010 - 10:28am PT
weld_it like many I am deeply enjoying your posts. Good stuff.

Earlier you mention you climbed trad for 2 years. I for one would love to hear you tell a tale from one of your days out trad climbing.

If the anchor gig doesn't pan out perhaps you could weld trad gear?
Jingy

Social climber
Nowhere
Apr 29, 2010 - 10:49am PT
troll?


"I've been making these shuts in shop class... do you guys think I can use them for saving my life?"


good one
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Apr 29, 2010 - 01:04pm PT
good one weld it!

how does one go about getting your autograph? i know it may be premature at this time but i know someday you will be as famous as that charmin dude oh i mean sharma! hehe

by the way nice nuts! you dont swing both ways do you?
Roxy

Trad climber
CA Central Coast
Apr 29, 2010 - 01:18pm PT
weld_it, gotta say you post some great stuff, a true diversion from the work day. Even caught myself saying "radness" in the office.

Thanks for clearing up what it means to "free solo", all this time I thought it was a catchy line from Return of the Jedi.





caughtinside

Social climber
Davis, CA
Apr 30, 2010 - 03:49pm PT
towing capacity, unlimited!!!!

This is why I weld. Err, read teh taco.
Jongy

Gym climber
Ciudad Juárez, Ch Mexico
May 3, 2010 - 06:56pm PT
My pops was a welder for 22 years. You should email him your question. Your work is sorta ok. He might consider an apprentice. He lives in Chattanooga. Goes by the name of Billy.
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
May 4, 2010 - 01:02am PT
Dood, that "free solo" stuff is way rad.

Hey, you should do Half Dome!

Half Dome
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
May 4, 2010 - 01:37am PT
Weld_It is my new Supertopo Hero.

Would you please come with your welding torch to save me from some morons? Perhaps fire will eradicate them.
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
May 4, 2010 - 02:08am PT
Weld_It is my new Supertopo Hero.

For sure. Weld_it is already ST Hall of Fame material.

Maybe he will post more often if he's not too busy welding bongs in shop class.
WBraun

climber
May 4, 2010 - 02:12am PT
LOL ....
locker

Social climber
Over yonder
May 4, 2010 - 02:17am PT



Credit: locker
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Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
May 4, 2010 - 02:19am PT
LOL Classic®©
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
May 4, 2010 - 02:26am PT
Hey Weld_it... I think T*R is feelin yer radness, and she's single....
locker

Social climber
Over yonder
May 4, 2010 - 02:39am PT


"I think TR is feelin yer radness"...






You sure it's not his NUTS???...






































Credit: locker
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James Doty

Trad climber
Idyllwild, Ca.
May 4, 2010 - 04:01am PT
Chet and Scooter, f*#kin killing me. Ready to haul pic had me in tears.
Sitting here at 1am laughing my ass off by myself. Thanks Weldit.
Roxy

Trad climber
CA Central Coast
May 4, 2010 - 10:42am PT
nice work there Locker...ol' weld_it rappin' Lembert Dome, beautiful, hahaha

GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
May 4, 2010 - 11:46pm PT
El Cap can be pretty rough, have you been practicing your hauls yet? I try to make sure to haul at least 1/2 dozen or so tires during the day, depending on how much time i haev.
Roxy

Trad climber
CA Central Coast
May 5, 2010 - 12:06am PT

get your mind off the GF by posting up some more pictures from your trad climbs.

I'll go get another beer...
Shack

Big Wall climber
Reno NV
May 5, 2010 - 01:39am PT
Nice work!

LMFAO!
crazy horse

Trad climber
seattle, wa
May 7, 2010 - 03:18pm PT
most commercially made biners are stretched to 50ish percent of their breaking stregnth before they are sold, every last one of them.
The Enforcer

Trad climber
The Pit of Hell
May 11, 2010 - 06:25pm PT
Weld-it,

You've got sack! Will you come worship at the Church of the Fish and help destroy the off topic heathens?

The Enforcer
GhoulweJ

Trad climber
Sacramento, CA
May 11, 2010 - 07:49pm PT
Best St Thread.... Period
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
May 11, 2010 - 08:17pm PT
As long as those piercings were done with a sterilized Star Dryvin Nail, I think the little nimrod's onto something!?!?!

Werner said that HE would clip in!
Mimi

climber
May 14, 2010 - 09:36pm PT
Space Stations are classic. Total radness! The essence of all things metal yo!
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
May 14, 2010 - 11:10pm PT
hey Weld_it. I have a bunch of bolts for sale. Check my FS thread. you could really help out the community with the pile I have. I hear there's a few cracks in Josh that need rebolting.
chez

Social climber
chicago ill
May 14, 2010 - 11:35pm PT
Ive got 2 boxes of cold shuts for ya if ya want em, just pay shipping.
chez

Social climber
chicago ill
May 15, 2010 - 12:32am PT
cheap im in mammoth ca
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
May 15, 2010 - 12:34am PT
You'll have to pay extra if you want it shipped via Wolf City, Wyoming, or Poofter's Froth.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
Sprocketville
May 15, 2010 - 12:36am PT
you need 80-20 or 95-5, non of that CO2 crap, unless you Like microscopic fizzures,
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
May 15, 2010 - 12:47am PT
like the cam broke bro! so i burned it...
like the cam broke bro! so i burned it...
Credit: pyro
crag hag

Mountain climber
foresta ca
May 18, 2010 - 06:13pm PT
I recently met Weld-it in his shop and you can take it from me he works around the clock. He is truly dedicated to welding.
I told him he might want to invest in some saftey equipment though, like new gloves.
bust ass safety last!
bust ass safety last!
Credit: crag hag
crag hag

Mountain climber
foresta ca
May 18, 2010 - 06:32pm PT
He and his dad Frank have a lot in common.
They both reallly love welding!!!
Frank on his way to work
Frank on his way to work
Credit: crag hag
two peas in a pod
crag hag

Mountain climber
pacoima ca
May 19, 2010 - 04:50pm PT
We met at a bar in the valley called the tonga hut. They teach dancing there
some of the locals
some of the locals
Credit: crag hag
anyhoo... he told me he was getting into this thing called rappeling and did I want to go sometime.
You use ropes and stuff. Sounded pretty cool.He also said he was a welder.
Wow!!!!!
Roxy

Trad climber
CA Central Coast
May 19, 2010 - 05:01pm PT
I thought I read in one of the climbing mags that too much rappelling can cause one to have a "low T" count. Prolly just a rumor tho'.

...speaking of rappelling, I am reminded of a funny part in the Huber bros Am Limit where two El Cap rappers meet up with the Hubers..."We rappel El Capitan every year," says one of the guys, "It's a tradition."

The Hubers look at one another with a WTF? expression and then casually say, "Yeah, El Cap has good anchors."

locker

Social climber
Over yonder
May 19, 2010 - 05:27pm PT



Credit: locker
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locker

Social climber
Over yonder
May 19, 2010 - 05:43pm PT



Credit: locker
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locker

Social climber
Over yonder
May 19, 2010 - 05:56pm PT



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Missing photo ID#157970
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crag hag

Mountain climber
pacoima ca
May 19, 2010 - 11:12pm PT
Well, we went to Stoney Point near his house and I met some of his friends
rappler
rappler
Credit: crag hag
He looked pretty cool in his costume!
I have since heard that a lot of accidents happen when rappeling and I sure can belive it after what I saw that day
watch out below!!!
watch out below!!!
Credit: crag hag
locker

Social climber
Over yonder
May 19, 2010 - 11:16pm PT


"Rappler"...




I'm DYING over here...
Major Boobage

climber
Hooters
May 19, 2010 - 11:38pm PT
This one's for you Weld_it!
photo not found
Missing photo ID#157994
locker

Social climber
Over yonder
May 19, 2010 - 11:47pm PT



photo not found
Missing photo ID#157996
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Major Boobage

climber
Hooters
May 20, 2010 - 12:32am PT
photo not found
Missing photo ID#158004
locker

Social climber
Over yonder
May 20, 2010 - 12:38am PT



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pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
May 20, 2010 - 12:57am PT
Bro!........ like what happened to "Arizona Jones"?
crag hag

Mountain climber
pacoima ca
May 20, 2010 - 05:33pm PT
I was pretty scared after watching the other rappers so weld it says to me do you want to go someplace else and try it.
So I said sure thing I was thinking his man can looked pretty good in his outfit and well you know how it is......
Anyhoo we head to this place and he makes us put on these other outfits,
Thats me on the bottom. I think I was really getting the hang of it... get it????hang of it. Ha ha LOL
way rad!!!! don't drop me!!
way rad!!!! don't drop me!!
Credit: crag hag
crag hag

Mountain climber
pacoima ca
May 20, 2010 - 05:46pm PT
so then he got a phone call and said he had to go to work but I could come and watch if I wanted to cause I would find it real interesting.
So I say sure thing I'm there.
And It was reallllllllllllllll interesting if you like watching mannequins!
This took him foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
moving like a mannequin!!!
moving like a mannequin!!!
Credit: crag hag
crag hag

Mountain climber
pacoima ca
May 20, 2010 - 07:13pm PT
He said we should try climbing sometime even though he said he was a much better rappler.
Soooooooooo we went back to Stoney Point. That is where I got my nick name.

Weldy says We were at a crag and that I was kind of a hag.
So wha laaa Crag Hag!!!!
Besides it is better than the other nicknames I heard like Britney swallows or the yetti or the
c#m-dumpster!!!!!!! eweieee

Man he sure looked good in his harness that day!!!
NICE MAN CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NICE MAN CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Credit: crag hag
Major Boobage

climber
Hooters
May 20, 2010 - 11:07pm PT
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....................
photo not found
Missing photo ID#158109
crag hag

Mountain climber
pacoima ca
May 21, 2010 - 01:08pm PT
Major boobage needs his mommy.
I guess you got taken off the tit tooooooooooo early!!!!!!!!!!!
major boobage
major boobage
Credit: crag hag
No they are not for you!!!!
poor major boobage
poor major boobage
Credit: crag hag
crag hag

Mountain climber
pacoima ca
May 21, 2010 - 02:35pm PT
Hey welder man
on his way to re-bolt stoney point
on his way to re-bolt stoney point
Credit: crag hag
Remember you booted me off your my space thingy.
I was devistated dude
I thought we had a good thing going
I thought we had a good thing going
Credit: crag hag
The you came over to my house and got into it with my mom
mom hanging in there!
mom hanging in there!
Credit: crag hag
The dogs were confused too
What is he doin to Ma?
What is he doin to Ma?
Credit: crag hag
Now YOU say you thought we had a good thing going....
locker

Social climber
Over yonder
May 21, 2010 - 02:42pm PT


Credit: locker
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crag hag

Mountain climber
pacoima ca
May 27, 2010 - 11:05am PT
Hey Weldy,
I just wanted to let you know I am over it!!
I never wanted to bug you on your site thingy.
I really wanted to say good job on your welding project at Stoney.
I think it is going to be great when there are shuts over ever root there.
That way you will be able to rappel any where you want!!!!
later days my old pal!!
locker

Social climber
Over yonder
May 27, 2010 - 11:25am PT



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crag hag

Mountain climber
pacoima ca
May 27, 2010 - 09:31pm PT
I was there but where were you????
I guess your buzy at your class!!




kicking your gf in the back!!
kicking your gf in the back!!
Credit: crag hag


Wow that looks fun...... not!


Anyhow I went out to Stoney and met this really cool dude named Jongy!
He just got into town from T.J. and thinks he might stick around for awhile
He is way into something new called grid bolting.
It lets you climb wherever you want . you just clip your beaners into the bolts and go!!!
He said he was planning on spraying some in at Stoney and I am going to help him.. anyhoo, I am going to be kinda buzy now so well I guess I will see you around.
C.G.
Jongy

Gym climber
Ciudad Juárez, Ch Mexico
May 27, 2010 - 11:37pm PT
cool meeting you out at Stony. I think I'll stay. Bouldering at Stoney is almost like climbing on a real climbing wall. It's just not really grate but its really fun.

Roxy

Trad climber
CA Central Coast
May 27, 2010 - 11:38pm PT
you cats should post a TR
crag hag

Mountain climber
pacoima ca
May 28, 2010 - 12:37am PT
that's easy! My last T R was Hot Tuna Butrass at stoney.
the one bofre that is top secrect!!!
top secret op
top secret op
Credit: crag hag



Hey Jongy,
I'm glad you are sticking around maybe WE could do a T R together!!!
C H
Jongy

Gym climber
Ciudad Juárez, Ch Mexico
May 28, 2010 - 12:45am PT
That sounds cool.

but whats a T R?
Fritz

Trad climber
Hagerman, ID
May 28, 2010 - 12:52am PT
Weld IT! You da BOMB!!

I looked at this thread way back----and had no idea, until tonight, what a "gift to the climbing world you are."

Best of all!!-----260 + posts and the usual "bickerers" have not shown up to argue with your profound truths.

You da dude and da bomb!

Oh! The nurses at the "Old Climbers Home" think you are someone they want to know!

Credit: AP
crag hag

Mountain climber
pacoima ca
May 28, 2010 - 01:03am PT
this is it!
true revalation
true revalation
Credit: crag hag
nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
May 28, 2010 - 01:07am PT
Where's Pate?

Those nurses will get him all hot and bothered.
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
May 28, 2010 - 01:15am PT
crag hag -- the hydrogen - oxygen variable vectored rocket engines are DECOYS - I need help with this - I need the truth.
Oxymoron

Big Wall climber
total Disarray
May 28, 2010 - 01:17am PT
Truth! Hope you brought a good sieve.
crag hag

Mountain climber
pacoima ca
May 28, 2010 - 10:30am PT
Well Fummy,
You came to the right person, my other job is a rocket scientist.
rocket scienctists rule!
rocket scienctists rule!
Credit: crag hag
Rocket engines give part of their thrust .... overall vector that is required, giving only a very small penalty; fixed engines ..... oxygen) are introduced into a combustion chamber in variable mixture ...
truth detecteor
truth detecteor
Credit: crag hag
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 28, 2010 - 11:22am PT
What do rocket engines have to do with welding and cold shuts?
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
May 28, 2010 - 12:36pm PT
Is Hammer your Daddy?!?
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
May 28, 2010 - 12:40pm PT
grag hag I'm starten to feel better it was a rough nite. I want me a truth detector - I need it - I must have it
reilly want don't rocket engines & cold shuts have in common?
they are both at the cutting egde of something
ask weld-it he's deffenantly cutting something with them tourches
crag hag

Mountain climber
pacoima ca
May 28, 2010 - 02:12pm PT
Hey Jongy,
Want to meet up later at Stoney for some

grid bolting
grid bolting
Credit: crag hag

Ps.I don't have your phone number.
Crag Hag
Fritz

Trad climber
Hagerman, ID
May 28, 2010 - 09:22pm PT
Bump for "Truth & Light!"

"Crag hag" You da bombette! (kinda like a bimbette and a bomb---with the best qualities of each.)

Nature: Re
Where's Pate?

Those nurses will get him all hot and bothered.

I worry that Pate is getting a little too old and serious for "cutting edge" threads like this.

Poor Guy.
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
May 28, 2010 - 09:29pm PT
I don't need no sieve I got a stick.
rockets help with grid bolt-en.its faster
crag hag

Mountain climber
pacoima ca
May 28, 2010 - 10:24pm PT
Hey fritz,
Wow, man thanks for the compliment. I'm glad to see rocket science chicks are still appreciated in this community. oh yeah and frumy, I got some great ideas to spray them in a bunch at a time.
I got to find weld-it and use his skills to modify the rocket parameters such as payload and fuel mass, and calculate the rocket's launch trajectory.






top secret rocket I am working on
top secret rocket I am working on
Credit: crag hag







Hey Jongy,
I lurked around boulder 1 today but you were a no show. I think we should make a defininate plan this memorial day weekend to do some bolting!!!
Yea!!! I think everyone will be super stoked.








drill baby drill
drill baby drill
Credit: crag hag


everyone!!!


hail to the chief!!
hail to the chief!!
Credit: crag hag



locker

Social climber
Over yonder
May 28, 2010 - 10:31pm PT


I made the MISTAKE of eating at MacSh!tburgers today...


photo not found
Missing photo ID#158836
...





crag hag

Mountain climber
pacoima ca
May 29, 2010 - 05:39pm PT
Hey Jongy,
What about tomorrow.
I think that would be the prefect day for bolting there are sure to be a lot of peeps around and they will be sooooooooooooo happy
We love bolts!!!
We love bolts!!!
Credit: crag hag

they will all look up to us!!!

GREAT JOB JONGY AND CRAG HAG
GREAT JOB JONGY AND CRAG HAG
Credit: crag hag














pssssss.
nice hats!!!















nice hats
nice hats
Credit: crag hag


Pate

Trad climber
May 29, 2010 - 05:47pm PT
I worry that Pate is getting a little too old and serious for "cutting edge" threads like this.

Poor Guy.

Hey Fritz- STFU. You and your pal Caveman Christ like to take potshots from the void.......... the crosshairs are on you pal.

Weld_it happens to be a personal friend of mine, we discuss these issues in person a couple times a week when we pound the sh#t out of hot metal in his shop. Right now we're working on some new gear for Jongy, because the poor kid got his rack and hand drill stolen south of Tucson at the border when he got hosed coming back in for a comp.

We actually developed a new bolt just for you Fritz, hope you get to use it some day:
Credit: Fritz To The Deck fund
Pate

Trad climber
May 29, 2010 - 05:52pm PT
Oh yeah- nuns yes, nurses................ not so much.

Credit: Pate
Fritz

Trad climber
Hagerman, ID
May 29, 2010 - 08:02pm PT
Pate: Thank You! I'm glad you agree!

It's no prob to cover for you while you "whip up" on everyone else.

Thought this ad might be of interest.

Credit: Fritz



Or maybe it's time to "push back" from the keyboard" and go torture trout?
Pate

Trad climber
May 29, 2010 - 08:14pm PT
Hmmmmmmm. Torture trout................. I remember a kind of "leg humpish" post you made a while back. Seems you enjoy the rippage of the lippage too. Something about how great the fishing is up in White Supremacy central.

Don't take it so hard that you got pwnd.













Plus..................................... I'm younger than you!
Fritz

Trad climber
Hagerman, ID
May 29, 2010 - 09:07pm PT
Pate: Good! That Thorazine tab, and thinking of torturing trout must have calmed you.

Take two Pervitin.

Credit: Sheridan Anderson

Dream of naked trout.

Monte Dolack Print: A Beauty!
Monte Dolack Print: A Beauty!
Credit: Fritz

There are secret streams in Idontno, where you won't see another "fish torturer" in days.

"Torture and Release." waters.

Native cuts or bows.

Back to "Cold Shuts."

The family small biz I grew up in: was a welding shop. My "old man" got to cut up the shotgun Hemmingway suicided with.

Never made cold shuts though.

Have I really been Pwned? Remember: WGACA!
Mimi

climber
Jun 1, 2010 - 09:56pm PT
Weld_it dude! Your gleaming ass is soooo out now that I've found this commissioned portrait of you at work. At work, making a mess out of all that steel. LOL!

nature

climber
Tucson, AZ
Jun 1, 2010 - 10:01pm PT
Weld it has a rather smooth man-can. No wonder his girl is pregnant.
Fritz

Trad climber
Hagerman, ID
Jun 1, 2010 - 11:58pm PT
Weld It & Crag Hag make a lovely couple.

"Weld together forever!"

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jun 3, 2010 - 12:37pm PT
Hey Bro,
If that other preggers skank is yankin your chain too hard ya mite wanna
chek out this hotty. Sounds like she's also 'certified'!

You know who~
You know who~

Just in case ya wanna see what she can do with that mike:
http://www.myspace.com/onetuffwelderchick
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
May 20, 2011 - 12:18pm PT
bump - I'd like to know.
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
Jul 7, 2011 - 02:06pm PT
bump - for Weld_it's great question.
Todd Gordon

Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
Jul 11, 2011 - 03:47pm PT
There is more than one way to skin a cat........

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Feb 21, 2013 - 05:53pm PT
bump
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Feb 21, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
Anyone ever hear of someone toproping through open shuts, only to have the rope jump the shuts and suddenly be free soloing?
locker

Social climber
FukUville
Feb 21, 2013 - 06:03pm PT

"Anyone ever hear of someone toproping through open shuts"...

I have...

Don't think I'll do it again anytime soon however...

;-)



EDITED:

Missed the last part of your post...

NO!!!...

I didn't have the rope pop off, resulting in, Oops!!!...

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Feb 21, 2013 - 06:12pm PT
elcapinyo,

good physics question. could a curly rope cause a twist that might jump the shuts?







(not directed at anyone in particular) regardless, not a great idea to TR thru shuts directly. I tend to use a clove hitch sling to connect to the shuts to set an anchor. Very low chance of a clove hitch loosening enough to slip off, but really shuts are horseshit in general. Mussy's are convenient, but usually I won't TR thru them. Btw, where the hell is Weld-it?
scuffy b

climber
heading slowly NNW
Feb 21, 2013 - 08:00pm PT
Yow. Well, it's good to see that you reacted calmly when you saw the
situation. Never can tell about those things.
Greg Barnes

climber
Feb 21, 2013 - 08:33pm PT
Munge, it can happen in practice, according to 3rd/4th-hand account from way back (early '90s?) at Owens. A climber was just reaching the shuts when the twisting rope popped out of both. Stayed calm, passed the rope back through, lowered.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Feb 22, 2013 - 01:26am PT
That would be a mighty uncomfy spot. Good to confirm what I suspected. That they are no good.
MisterE

Social climber
May 11, 2013 - 01:49am PT
3 months tomorrow since we heard from Weld_It, hope the shuts held up.
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
May 11, 2013 - 05:03am PT
6 months tomorrow since we heard from Weld_It, hope the shuts held up.

No, he is just posting under his other (original avatar).
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
May 11, 2013 - 09:38am PT
Oh...?
climbrunride

Sport climber
Golf Wall, CO
May 11, 2013 - 12:23pm PT
I just re-read the Weld_It's original post. Still one of the best posts ever! haha
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
May 11, 2013 - 01:10pm PT

You're right!!!...

That first post is HILARIOUS!!!...




"And before you flame me, I know what I'm doing (3rd year of shop) and have been climbing a long time (2 years +)"...


^^^

That there is some CLASSIC GUD sh!t!!!...

LMAO!!!...

FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
May 11, 2013 - 04:37pm PT
A nation in need --- A nation waits

WHERE IS THAT WELD_IT.

I'm afraid he may have found the failure rate of two weld shuts.

Please Weld_it, if you survive the Taco needs you.

This place is hella boring without you.
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
May 11, 2013 - 04:45pm PT

Got an email from him earlier today...

He's around...


Latest I heard he was working some new "Project" in Arizona...(Not exactly sure where... It's HUSH HUSH!!!)

SUPPOSEDLY a 13c/d...


EDITED:

Key word: Supposedly...

But he has become quite the climber...

So who knows???...



Tami

Social climber
Canada
Oct 21, 2013 - 06:11pm PT
A few of the guys on this forum wear bras. Best send'em along fast.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Oct 22, 2013 - 12:50am PT
Glad to hear you are sending! AT LAST.

PM me when you get back. I'd like you to do a slide show of your trip and experiences for AAC/SCMA/CTAC/SCSM/SOWR/BSA meetings. Not too many pictures of the wild flowers and ugly local tribespeople, mostly the raddness will do, plus summit victory salute. Crying into your GoPro at 7800M okay.
MisterE

climber
Oct 22, 2013 - 01:05am PT
We have a hero's welcome waiting for you in Chatsworth when you get back - hoping the Sat phone can receive the message...
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Oct 22, 2013 - 11:06am PT
Weld-it, how did the baby thing work out? Is one of these yours?



nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 23, 2014 - 01:29am PT
we've not heard from weld_it since his sat fone cut out. Fear the worst?
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Jan 23, 2014 - 11:17am PT


"... --- ... / ... --- ... / ... --- ..."...


LOL!!!...
moosedrool

climber
Stair climber, lost, far away from Poland
Jan 23, 2014 - 11:19am PT
weak sos
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Jan 23, 2014 - 11:21am PT


This forum is such a fuking crack up...

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 23, 2014 - 11:27am PT
IT'S ALIVE!!!

Credit: nature
L0CKER

Social climber
Jan 23, 2014 - 01:05pm PT
SOS/SOS/SOS/BRAS/I'M/STILL/ON/THE/SAIVAGE/MOUNTAIN/THE/RADNESS/IS/RAD/UP/HERE/SAT/PHONE/IS/SH#T/SOS/SOS/SOS
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Jan 29, 2014 - 08:32pm PT
been out in the sticks for a week … weld-it is raging?
Ian Jewell

climber
Jan 29, 2014 - 08:38pm PT
hoo - rah !!

edit : not to nit pick , but "it's alive" was frankenstein , that's a picture of the elephant man ( you probably already know that , sorry for the point-out)
RP3

Big Wall climber
Sonora
Jan 29, 2014 - 10:02pm PT
HAHAHA!
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jan 29, 2014 - 11:27pm PT
Here it yerself http://morsecode.scphillips.com/cgi-bin/morse.cgi

Just copy/paste the SOS message Locker already translated and hit play.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 30, 2014 - 01:38am PT
Weld_it == The Elephant Man?


Ho Man!
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Feb 18, 2014 - 07:40pm PT
What ever happened on K2?
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Feb 18, 2014 - 09:14pm PT
Not half as much as in Patagonia! Rock (pedal) on Mike!
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