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Redpoint Climbers Supply
climber
Terrebonne, OR
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 17, 2010 - 01:46pm PT
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I've posted this all over the place and figure it won't hurt to post here. Sorry if you've read this on other sites.
Hey everyone,
I'm letting everyone know this, just in case someone runs into someone that's selling gear that just doesn't sound right.
Last night my shop was broken into, and everything was taken and I really do mean everything. I haven't done an actually inventory yet. But ballpark, 50 draws, 100 carabiners, 14 ropes, 4 sets of cams, 5 sets of nuts, 10 down jackets, etc etc etc etc. So please, please, keep an eye out for anything suspicious if you're buying something second hand from someone. I would appreciate it.
If anyone finds out anything here is some contact information. You can either call me, 541-923-6207. Or the best bet is the local sheriff's office. Their phone number is 541-693-6911. The Sheriff in charge of the case is Gary Cima, but you can talk to anyone else there as well.
I'm working on the inventory right now, and will have a pretty long list of items stolen, so you know what to be on the look out for. Thanks for all the support.
Thanks,
Eric
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Redpoint Climbers Supply
climber
Terrebonne, OR
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 17, 2010 - 01:47pm PT
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Alright, here's the list..... it's a doozy
Metolius
Supercam Small and Medium
Master Cams 00, 0, 6, 7
Master Cams Offsets 00-7
Ultralight TCUs 00-4
Power Cams 00-8
Astro Nuts x 2
Ultralight nuts 10x 2, 9, 8, 7, 5, 4, 3, 1
BRD x 4
Freenut x 3
Extractor x 4
Enviro Rap Hanger x 6
8 step Aider
4 step Aider x 2
5 step aider x 2
Gear slings x 2
Double D Gear slings x 2
Simulator
Grip saver plus
Big Wall Pants x 4
Big Wall Shorts x 4
Dyno Pant x 4
Dyno Shorts x 4
Nylon Daisy x 3
Monster Daisy x 2
Easy Daisy x 2
Superchalk half pound x 4
Superchalk quarter pound x 6
Tape x 6
Monster Slings 22” x 6
Monster Slings 46” x 6
BD
C3s 000-2
C4s 3, 4x2, 5, 6
N-Force x 3
Firewire QD x 3
Hotwire QD x 2
Micro nuts x 2
Stoppers 1x 4, 2 x 2, 3-6, 9-13
Wired Hexes 1-11
Yosemite Hammer
ATC-Guide x 5
ATC XP x 4
ATC x 2
Super 8 x 3
Neutrino x 2
Oz
Livewire x 6
Dynotron x 4
Positron Straight x 10
Positron Bent x 10
Quicksilver Straight x 10
Quicksilver Bent x 4
Ovalwire x 5
Oval x 4
Light D x 4
Vaporlock x 6
Mini Pear x 6
Rock lock x 6
Rocklock Twist lock x 6
Livewire QD x 12
Freewire QD x 3
OZ QD x 12
Quickwire QD 18 cm x 12
Quickwire QD 12 cm x 12
Quicksilver QD 18 cm x 12
Quicksilver QD 12 cm x 12
Fifi x 2
RURP x 2
Cliffhanger
Pulley
Variwidth x 6
Raven Ice axe x 6
Tracer
Kids Tracer
Sabretooth Left Foot
Contact Right Foot
5 step aider x 2
6 step aider x 2
Padded Gear Sling
Forearm Trainger
Firstlight
Hilight
Skylight
Dynex Daisy Chain 115cm x 3
Dynex Daisy Chain 140cm x 3
Nylon Daisy Chain 115 x 3
Nylon Daisy Chain 140 x 3
Nylon Sling 30cm x 10
Nylon Sling 60cm x 3
Dynex Sling 30cm x 10
Dynex Sling 60cm x 6
Dynex Sling 120cm x 6
Petzl
Ascension x 5
Shunt
Croll x 3
Basics x 3
Pro-traxion
Mini Traxion x 2
Oscillante x 2
Pantin
Rescue Pulley
Ultralegre
Mini
Spirit Straights x 5
Locker SL x 5
William SG x 8
William Ball Lock x 10
William Triact Lock x 12
AMD SG x 5
AMD Ball Lock x 5
AMD Triact lock x 12
Freino x 5
OK Screwlock x 3
Attache x 3
Attache Hera x 3
Spirit Express 17cm x 10
Paw Small
Paw Medium
Microcender
Rescuecender
Coeur Coujon x 6
Tibloc x 3
Express 25 cm x 5
Nitro 1 x 3
Nitro 3 x 3
Snowalker
Altios
Elios x 2
Meteor III
Vasak Sidelock Right Foot
Cordex Gloves tan x 5
Cordex Gloves Black x 5
Cordex plus Gloves Tan x 5
Zephyr 70m
Nomad 60m
Nomad 70m
DMM
Bugette
Zodiac 12mm QL x 2
Phantom QD 12cm x 12
Wallnuts 11x 2, 10, 9, 7, 3, 2, 1
Aluminum Offsets 7, 9, 11
Phantom x 4
Steel Bent Gate
Shadow QD 18cm x 4
Shadow QD 12cm x 4
Dogbones 12cm x 4 18cm x 10 25 cm x 10
Wild country
Superlight Rocks 1-6 x 2
Peanuts x 2
Rocks 1-8, 12-14
Variable Controller
Ropeman 1
Ropeman 2
Yates
Pinhead
Double Copperheads x 2
Pika
Z-pitons x 3
Trango
Cinch
Shark x 2
Squid
MSR
Hubba Hubba x 2
Mutha Hubba
Whisperlites x 2
Whisperlites International x 2
Reactor Dragoonfly
Thermarest
Trail Pro x 2
Trail Pro W’s
Mountain Hardwear
Subzero Jackets Mens x 5
Paladin Pack x 2
Splitter Packs x 2
Dynaflex ball x 4
Dynaflex plus
Superclips x 4
Frisbees x 2
Gear Marking tape x 4
DVDs x 16
Edelweiss
Onsight 60, 70, 60 arc, 70 arc
Ally 60m
Element 60, 70, 70 arc
Flashlight 60, 70, 60 arc, 70 arc
Red Chili Sunglasses x 36 $18 sunglasses, really?
Cliff bars x 14 boxes
Yes they stole cliff bars, frisbees, gear marking tape, climbing tape and chalk
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jan 17, 2010 - 01:51pm PT
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Ughhhh, that sucks. Sorry to hear that.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 17, 2010 - 01:56pm PT
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Jesus!
Did they leave anything?
That stinks. Being new, I don't suppose any of it was marked or *customized* for identification.
Hopefully, new stuff selling for insane low prices on Craigslist will raise a red flag. Good luck.
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MisterE
Social climber
Across Town From Easy Street
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Jan 17, 2010 - 01:58pm PT
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Sorry to hear about the break-in, Eric.
Erik Wolfe
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 17, 2010 - 02:05pm PT
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I hope that you land in the rocks as#@&%e thieves! Ripping off other climbers should sink your luck for good! No excuse for it.
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Redpoint Climbers Supply
climber
Terrebonne, OR
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 17, 2010 - 02:19pm PT
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Hey Erik,
I'm the new owner of the place, I bought it from John and Carol in August. But it would become John's shop again if I can't recover from this...
Thanks for the support though!
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Jan 17, 2010 - 02:23pm PT
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That's sickening.
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Richard
climber
Bend, OR.
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Jan 17, 2010 - 02:29pm PT
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Hi Eric................I've sent e-mails out to most everyone I know here in Bend and to folks in Portland as well with a link to this thread. We'll be on the lookout for anyone trying to offload your gear.
If there is anything I can do locally..................
-r-
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Alex Baker
climber
Portland
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Jan 17, 2010 - 02:43pm PT
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That's awful. The redpoint shop is the best climbing shop I've ever set foot in. I really hope you can recover I'll do what I can to spread the word.
Alex
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Jan 17, 2010 - 02:50pm PT
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I am really, really sorry to hear about this ripoff. Unbelievable. Your shop is fantastic, and i hope the thief (probably thieves) are found soon with gear in hand. Very sorry, man.
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willie
Trad climber
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Jan 17, 2010 - 02:59pm PT
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That's totally insane! Must have taken hours.
I really liked that shop as well. When I checked out Smith on my travels many moons ago, the staff there was very friendly and gave beta freely. Can't remember the guys name.
That's where I got my super huge, 123 camalot-sized Rocks. Love those pieces!
Hopefully there was some kind of insurance?
Special corner of hell for thieves...
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Prezwoodz
climber
Anchorage
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Jan 17, 2010 - 03:56pm PT
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I am posting this on Alaska Mountain Forum as well. That sucks! That sounds way to sneaky to be an outside job. Any old employees or new ones not happy with something?!
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Plaidman
Trad climber
Portland, OR
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Jan 17, 2010 - 04:11pm PT
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Dude -
I am in Portland and will spread the word.
You are the shop I go to when at Smith.
Hope this incident has a happy ending.
This sucks. I got all my gear stolen out of my car two years ago.
I am still sick about it. Just got my rack replaced in full. It took time.
I feel your pain.
We will keep a look out in Portland.
If it shows up here we will contact you and the police.
Plaidman
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lars johansen
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Jan 17, 2010 - 04:30pm PT
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Drove by your shop on a recent trip to OR with my wife, no climbing involved. Looked like a nice place, so sorry to hear of your misfortune. I hope you do have some type of insurance? If not we will step up and buy from you asap, as soon as you can get some inventory.
Good Luck!
lars
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Jan 17, 2010 - 04:45pm PT
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Hangin' Tree
Hangin' Tree
Hangin' Tree
Hangin' Tree
Hangin' Tree
Hangin' Tree
Hangin' Tree
Hangin' Tree
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ground_up
Trad climber
mt. hood /baja
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Jan 17, 2010 - 04:53pm PT
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That just sucks ! plain n simple ..... can't believe climbers would do
something like that.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Anywhere I like
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Jan 17, 2010 - 05:05pm PT
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if there is any justice in the world, they will die, from lots of gear pulling.
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Matt
Trad climber
primordial soup
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Jan 17, 2010 - 05:11pm PT
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insurance?
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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Jan 17, 2010 - 05:20pm PT
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I'm with that last guy....
they will attempt to use the gear for a massive ascent and they theives will fall to their deaths....
That is fricken tragic.
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Paco
climber
Montana
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Jan 17, 2010 - 05:39pm PT
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Lots of folks crying in agony that any climbers would do such a thing...but gear is valueable...suppose it wasn't climbers?
Hope they get nailed.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Jan 17, 2010 - 07:43pm PT
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what do your hang tags look like? pictures?
that's a lot of stuff
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James Doty
Trad climber
Idyllwild, Ca.
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Jan 18, 2010 - 12:39pm PT
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Like some climbers aren't scumbag as#@&%es to? No alarm at the shop? Sorry, that is f*#ked up!
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trudat
Big Wall climber
far far away
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Jan 18, 2010 - 01:04pm PT
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They are going to hit you again as soon as you replace your stuff. I've seen it many times. Its what they do because they know you think you are safe now. Trust me, you aren't.
Be careful.
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Sebastopol, CA
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Jan 18, 2010 - 01:10pm PT
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Thats a lot of stuff. Better check with the local self-storage for any new tennants.
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Redpoint Climbers Supply
climber
Terrebonne, OR
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2010 - 02:48pm PT
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Bump and semi update.
Bad news first. Insurance will not cover theft. Turns out I only had liability insurance. I thought insurance was like car insurance, all aspects are covered, just depends how much coverage and how big your deductible is. Biggest mistake of my life, ever.
Other fact, not sure if this is good or bad. Alarm went off, but Sheriff's station was never notified about the alarm. Either when I switched phone companies they messed with the line, or the people I use to monitor the alarm messed up. I pay a place in Redmond for the alarm, and they sub-contract it out to a bigger place in Portland to monitor. I don't know if anyone is a lawyer, but if anyone is at fault, would it be the right move to sue? I don't want to be that "guy" who sues....
Some Good news, the restaurant across the street has a camera that faces the parking lot and pretty much the door they broke in through. So once the police get the footage they should have a good lead. They'll have how many people, the make and model of the vehicle and a license plate. So thieves if you're reading this, just hand back the stuff, all will be forgiven and we'll just forget about this.
Thanks for all the support everyone.
Eric
p.s. this has been posted on rockclimbing.com, mountain project, super topo, smith rock.com and cascade climbers. If anyone wants to cross post this to any other sites, i don't mind, just couldn't think of any others that get as much traffic.
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bajaandy
climber
Escondido, CA
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Jan 18, 2010 - 03:24pm PT
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The theft alone is bad enough, but to not be covered by insurance and then the alarm co. fuks up? That's a stout kick in the balls! Best of luck to you in nailing the bastards. Awesome that there was a camera. Post this up over at Summitpost.org. The more places you can get the word out the better.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Jan 18, 2010 - 03:32pm PT
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Oh - hope the video gives the creeps away. Still a painful experience for your shop. What a difficult situation.
About the alarm company - I think you will probably have to look into gaining some compensation if the error in response was not on your end. After all, if they did fail at fulfilling the contract, they are liable. Alarm company is like an insurance policy; we don't pay for insurance and then feel bad when we have to submit a claim. It's business.
I feel a little bad(but not all that much) about suggesting that it is possible someone, somehwere, connected with the alarm company might just have a hand in the burglary. No offense against security/locksmiths or the industry in general. No doubt we have some in that field right here on STopo.
Check the contract to see what you've agreed to/what their liability is....
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James Doty
Trad climber
Idyllwild, Ca.
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Jan 18, 2010 - 03:56pm PT
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I think happiegirl has a point. I was ripped off at a big hotel in Palm Springs. Security camera right by my vehicle. Head of security dick said the camera wasn't on. Turned out later to be a theft ring in the hotel involving security and other hotel employees. I would definitely follow up on the alarm thing or lack thereof.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jan 18, 2010 - 04:03pm PT
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Wait and see what the cops come up with.
If they draw a dead end look into getting the alarm company to compensate you. You pay them money for a service and they were negligent costing you lots of money.
I wouldn't consider it a frivolous lawsuit (unless you're claiming 'pain and suffering' and additional money). Just get the money back.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 18, 2010 - 05:27pm PT
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1. No forgiving and forgetting - not that it's very likely that the thieves will return what was stolen, anonymously or otherwise.
2. Once you have all the facts, talk with a suitable lawyer about whether you have a case of negligence on the part of the alarm or telephone company.
3. Post the news to every climbers' website in North America you can find out about, including those back east and in Canada. A knowledgeable source once informed me that stolen equipment of any real value often ends up far away. Less chance of getting caught, less chance of consequences if one is.
4. Don't give up.
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The Alpine
Big Wall climber
Tampa, FL
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Jan 18, 2010 - 07:42pm PT
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As a fellow business owner, my first response would be check former employees.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jan 19, 2010 - 11:49am PT
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Good advice from Anders.
I have to echo what he says about gathering the facts and then going to an attorney. Spend the money and get yourself a good contract lawyer and you might see daylight out the other end of this.
Sad to hear this, but best of luck.
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Seamstress
Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
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Jan 19, 2010 - 11:54am PT
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The news is getting out very effectively. I heard from a couple folks, and passed it on, too. The thread on Cascadeclimbers has most of the info:
http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/934319/1
I have heard from several folks and found the thread on several sites right away. I wonder if there is an efficient way for notifying the gyms? There are a lot of eyes and ears there in this rainy season.
Given the critical nature of climbing gear, I would never buy it from someone I don't know or troll Craig's List for hardware. I hope this guy is caught, and I hope that low life quickly figure out that there is not much of a secondary market for climbing hardware and ropes.
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Brandon Lampley
Mountain climber
Boulder, CO
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Jan 19, 2010 - 01:53pm PT
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That's sucks about lack of theft insurance. Being a business owner is hard stuff, and this is a super tough way to learn a lesson. Don't let it be a business ending screw up; take it as a push in the right direction to get more educated and organized about operations.
I hope you've got the time to devote to working with the sherriff. But, you're not going to be able to restock a lot of that stuff if you get it back anyway. Time to think about a good promotion or sale. If you can sell $100 of gear to half of the climbers that trip up to Smith this winter, you'll be crushing it.
And really? yal think 'climbers' wouldn't do this? Everybody 'climbs' these days.
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Chip
Trad climber
Sittin' Pretty in Fat City
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Jan 19, 2010 - 02:01pm PT
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I have to echo that you need to look carefully at former employees and possibly even aquantances. I have had money, credit card numbers, instruments, etc. stolen by patients and employees.
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Redpoint Climbers Supply
climber
Terrebonne, OR
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2010 - 03:09pm PT
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Bump/ Update.
Yesterday I was on the phone all day calling gyms, climbing shops and consignment stores from the bay area to Vancouver, Canada. I sent them a list and a flyer of what brands were stolen and who to contact if they have any information. I didn't contact many gyms in the bay, just the touchstone group ones. So if any of you want to give out more flyers to the gyms in that area or even farther south, please do. I will not mind at all.
I'm looking into the old employees, and would be shocked if any of them took it. There's only one I can think of and that person lives in southern CA. But I guess this would be worth the trip. I've only owned the shop since August, so I don't have ex-employees.
I'm still looking into the alarm company, and am waiting for some more information to come. I have to look over the contract, and contact some other 3rd party to get a second opinion. It looks like this might be a lead, just need more information. I have been in contact with my lawyer about all of this.
Still waiting on the security tape, oi, it's taking forever.
Again thanks for all support, everyone.
Eric
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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Jan 19, 2010 - 04:29pm PT
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Next time I buy some gear.....which should be soon, I will purchase something from your site to help you out man.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jan 19, 2010 - 11:23pm PT
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hey there redpoint climbers supply, eric...
say, i will be praying on your behalf... say, and:
may the good lord expose and catch them, being that the good book says, as a principle:
(kind of like gravity, and such):
" there is nothing hidden that will not (at some point in time) be revealed... and there is nothing in the dark that(at some point in time) will not be revealed..."
with the good lord on the case, now... something will manefest...
god bless to you, this eve...
help is in the name of the lord... priciples have a way about them that can not be stopped...
hope all will be well for you, in many others ways... as to all that has happened, too, god bless your family...
:)
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jan 20, 2010 - 12:02am PT
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Shouldn't the titled have said "Burgled" type bump.
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Seamstress
Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
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Jan 20, 2010 - 12:49am PT
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Still spreading the news to my East Coast friends. Lots of eyes and ears hoping to find a lead...
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meatball
Trad climber
Chico CA
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Jan 20, 2010 - 01:12am PT
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I was cruising over on rc.com and didn't see mention of this despite previous mentioning.
I'll say I sympathize with this as my car was broken into early Sunday morning.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Jan 20, 2010 - 12:02pm PT
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Based on what you have said so far, I would say your alarm company better be ready to pay out.
Can we order stuff from you NOW to help rebuild your business and keep a tiny amount of cash flow going?
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Ricardo Cabeza
climber
an interim space
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Jan 20, 2010 - 12:07pm PT
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Was just chatting online with a friend in Seattle (I'm in NH), and she was telling me about this travesty.
I had already heard about it here, but it's nice to know that it's on peoples minds.
I think if we keep this in peoples heads the d-bags will get sussed out when they try to unload the gear.
Don't forget about it, we CAN, as a community, find these losers!
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Redpoint Climbers Supply
climber
Terrebonne, OR
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2010 - 01:59pm PT
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Thanks for all the support guys, yes please, keep this thread alive. These scumbags will wait until the "heat" dies down and then start unloading this stuff.
As for the Website and what's on the store front. I haven't updated it. It would look pretty barren if I did that, and hope that I won't have this many slim pickings for that long. IF you guys would be willing to be patient you can order, and I'd get back to you ASAP if I do have it in stock. As of now, assume I don't have ANY hardwear. Carabiners, draws, cams, nuts, etc.
Thanks everyone.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jan 20, 2010 - 02:41pm PT
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Thank you Fatty (bump).
I defer to the expert.
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jack herer
climber
veneta, or
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Jan 21, 2010 - 01:12am PT
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bump
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Ricardo Cabeza
climber
All Over.
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Jan 21, 2010 - 07:08am PT
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Can your suppliers drop ship your orders?
Seems that would help quite a bit.
Even if the distributors don't normally do that, they may make an exception.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Jan 21, 2010 - 02:53pm PT
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most of that stuff Redpoint didn't carry. But way to keep alert!!
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Michael
Trad climber
Boulder
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Jan 30, 2010 - 11:03pm PT
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whoa - that...is..not...right. This is very unusual for the climbing community...apocolyptic even...
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Cpt0bvi0u5
Trad climber
Merced CA
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Jan 31, 2010 - 03:12pm PT
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bump
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Ezra
Social climber
WA, NC, Idaho Falls
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Jan 31, 2010 - 05:03pm PT
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So Sorry for your loss,
Hoping for some good news to come your way!
Hopefully the crooks will have Karmic and legal justice!
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Jan 31, 2010 - 05:52pm PT
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Far be it for me to want anybody to get hurt, even areshole thieves, but if the perps were climbers and they use the stuff, then...
karma
... not being an expert in crime I could only agree with some posters that the perps were not climbers but just scumbag thieves.
Wish I could do something to help, Eric. I doubt if any of the gear would end up in Ireland though.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Jan 31, 2010 - 06:11pm PT
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Any word lately??
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eagle
Trad climber
new paltz, ny
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Jan 31, 2010 - 07:58pm PT
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not to make light of your situation and i am sorry that you were robbed, but have you ever heard of an alarm system?
i hope they find the person/people who did this and you recover from your loss and are back in business soon
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eagle
Trad climber
new paltz, ny
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Jan 31, 2010 - 08:05pm PT
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not to make light of your situation, but have you ever hear of an alarm system?
i hope they cath the preson/people soon and you recover from your loss and are up and running again asap
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Jan 31, 2010 - 08:52pm PT
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2010 - 11:48am PT
Bump and semi update.
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Alarm went off, but Sheriff's station was never notified about the alarm. Either when I switched phone companies they messed with the line, or the people I use to monitor the alarm messed up. I pay a place in Redmond for the alarm, and they sub-contract it out to a bigger place in Portland to monitor.
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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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Jan 31, 2010 - 09:59pm PT
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Best Wishes to the Redpoint guys...really sorry to hear about this. Haven't seen any brand new gear show up for sale in our area, but we will keep a lookout.
It was probably some meth-heads..
Matt Lambert
Rogue Rock Gym - Owner
Medford, Oregon
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Binks
Social climber
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Jan 31, 2010 - 10:07pm PT
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I need some new offset aliens for my planned return to the Captain this year. If you got 'em I'll order from you. I hope you guys are gonna recover. If you're open I'll stop by sometime Feb13-20 when I'm in Bend. I'll be in Bend for a week hoping for some good snow up at Bachelor.
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Casey Chambers
climber
San Diego, CA
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Jan 31, 2010 - 11:50pm PT
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So is it just me or does it seem a bit odd that the alarm, which I'm guessing was a silent alarm, did function and go off, yet the burglar(s) decided to hang out and clear out the showcases, clothing racks, ropes off of the wall, dvds, frisbees, cliff bars... wtf clif bars??, 36 pairs of cheap ass sunglasses?, in total about 854 items (yes I counted) that would most likely fill a ford cargo van IF it was all well organized. I know because I can hardly fit all my crap in my subaru when I live at Smith out in the grasslands for 2 weeks every summer.
Anyway, my point is, based on the facts of the job, it must have taken at least 15 - 25 minutes (with 2 people, maybe 3 -- 2 grabbers 1 lookout/loader), and these guys must have known the following;
1. Terrebonne is not the most crackin place after midnight in the winter, even on the only main road that goes through the town
2. If/when the alarm went off, the signal would not reach the police
3. Been somewhat familiar with the store layout (if time minimization was important to them)
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Like it matters at all, here are my thoughts:
If they did not know there was an alarm, they would probably have limited their time to 5 - 10 minutes maximum. Considering that the county sheriff's office is 361 ft from Redpoint (I don't know if an officer is stationed there for night shift though). That would have taken at least 4 people and multiple vehicles to accomplish this. Considering that the county sheriff's office is 361 ft from Redpoint.
They were not that good considering they parked in front of a 24 hr video camera.
They stole things that have next to zero resale value, i.e. chalk, tape, copper heads, clif bars etc... To me that means they were stupid or angry, and not concerned with how long this job took (meaning they knew the alarm was not going to matter somehow).
With all this stuff they have 3 choices:
Keep it forever, Give it away, Use it, Sell it
The first two aren't likely, and No climber who resorts to stealing things would use all of this stuff and never sell anything. Basically, they will be selling this stuff eventually.
They didn't seem to know what is worth what, and they took A LOT. Therefore maybe they were paid by someone that does know what this stuff is worth. That means that the people selling this stuff are probably familiar with climbing, and are not local to central oregon, or probably the rest of the state. And they have probably read through all of these posts too.
Fortunately, most of the money making stuff that was stolen was hardware, tents, or other expensive and well made gear that all individually bear batch numbers. As an engineer, I know how important it is for companies like BD, Metolius, and Petzel to mark each piece of gear with a unique number that tells of what material batch is was made from in the event of a recall due to material defects. That means that if gear is purchased from one of these fools, they're screwed because it can all be traced right back though redpoint as the original purchaser. Considering there were 854 items taken, and about 60% of them are probably numbered, there are over 500 very good chances to catch them.
That said, if you purchase some gear that came from a private party and is on that list in America over the next year, look into where it came from. It should be fairly easy to do, and is worth a lot to Redpoint.
Erik,
Dude, how did they get in? was the place trashed at all?
I am so very sorry to hear about this. If I wasn't in school right now, I'd come up and help you out with whatever I could.
You should set up a donation link on your site through paypal. You can do it through your web hoster usually.
Anyway, keep your spirits up, may God bless your efforts and i will see you this summer!
--Casey
P.S. I will send this out to all of the climbing guides that I work with, and the gyms down here in central California. We're on the hunt.
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thisisntmii
Boulder climber
Pasadena, CA
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This is ABSOLUTELY insane! I used to manage the shop back in the day and I love it there! Smith Rock is where I basically began climbing. I'm sad to see this happened to such a great establishment... if there's anything I can do to help, please let me know.
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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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hey I saw , last week on craig's list in the san francisco bay area , many posts for new climbing gear for sale.. cams with tags on them, passive pro still in the package.. some gear posted as very slightly used no scratches.. (not possible)..slings new. belay devices.. about 10 -12 items on each post, did not see ropes or clothing
If I can find the link still active i will post it up
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Khoi
climber
Vancouver, BC
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Any updates one why the sheriff's station never got notified? Do we know whether it's the fault of the phone company or the alarm company yet?
How about the footage from the restaurant across the street? Has that been able to be of any help yet?
Smith Rock is currently my favourite outdoor climbing destination. I've been pouring through Alan Watts' newest guidebook. I'd hate to lose Redpoint Climbers Supply!
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juiceman
Trad climber
Bay Area, CA
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I posted an alert on Craigslist in the S.F. Bay Area.
I'm thinking that based on the the large size of the climbing community here, as well as the heavy utilization of Craigslist (it did start here after all) PLUS the the fact the selling the stuff locally in the Smith Rock area would all but impossible, it's as likely to end up here as anywhere.
For those live in areas where you have a good size CL, post something similar in your local area.
Let's not give these scum anywhere to hide or profit out of this.
We the climbing community are in the best position to help here.
https://post.craigslist.org/manage/1592110848/rkbw2
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Ezra
Social climber
WA, NC, Idaho Falls
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Obviously keep an eye on Seattle, portland and Salt Lake city, boise, Craigs lists!
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jfailing
Trad climber
A trailer park in the Sierras
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Bump. Did the suckaz get caught yet?
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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Casey, do you have an alibi?
You know an awful lot.
Just kidding....I think?
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EdBannister
Mountain climber
CA
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A weary welcome to the club.
Sorry to hear your news, my shop was burglarized three times.
Don't just look for climbers in the Valley to turn up with the stuff, my gear ended up assisting taggers to access freeway overpasses in LA.
Check with your local Sherriff gang unit, and let them know what the stuff looks like.
Meanwhile, hire an attorney that specializes in collecting from insurance companies to deal with your claim, or you will never get the money to get the gear to stay in business, then you will have lost the gear, your shop, and your job.
hope you fare better than i did,
Ed
edit, ps build a fort!
sink pipes in front and fill em with cement. then they can't drive a stolen car into it.
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froodish
Social climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 29, 2010 - 03:05pm PT
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Non-zero chance, but seems unlikely. Pretty different MO.
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Mark Rodell
Trad climber
Bangkok
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Dec 29, 2010 - 07:22pm PT
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bump
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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^^^^^
+1, yeah I am curious as well if the thieves were nabbed. And also, Eric, have you been able to bounce back from the theft?
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Redpoint Climbers Supply
climber
Terrebonne, OR
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Topic Author's Reply - May 13, 2012 - 05:28pm PT
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Someone told me they saw this thread resurrected, so figured I would chime in.
No, no one ever got caught. No, the insurance never came through.
Yes, I'm still here and don't plan on closing the shop anytime soon.
Sorry if you ever came into the shop and I was short with you when you asked about the break in. I get asked a lot, and it still stings every time.
If you want to make sure small businesses like this are still around, please support small businesses. Pay in cash, if you can, that 2% per transaction fee for credit cards stink. Every little bit counts, even those $1 stickers.
If you come to Smith, stop in, say hi. I think we're pretty nice people in here. Hope to see you out on the rock!
Thanks,
Eric
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PAUL SOUZA
Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
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May 13, 2012 - 08:56pm PT
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Is the credit card charge applicable to debit cards as well?
I didn't know that. Thanks.
Good luck.
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Argon
climber
North Bay, CA
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May 13, 2012 - 11:05pm PT
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I really hope that Dwolla or some alternative reasonable payment system takes hold. Visa, Mastercard and their bailed out, too big to fail, corrupt vampire squid partners in crime (BoA, Citi, JPM) impose a huge tax on our economy. They are worse than Ticketmaster - and Paypal is just as bad.
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jack herer
Big Wall climber
Veneta, Oregon
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May 13, 2012 - 11:41pm PT
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Eric,
Redpoint has been a staple of the Smith Rock climbing scene my entire lifetime... we won't let you go under. Keep up the good work! I'll keep on buying stuff when ever I can afford to do so, and hopefully I can get a few clients this year to come in and do the same....
See you soon!
Tyler
FYI, Eric has Totem Cams and Basic cams in the store now if anyone is looking...
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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May 14, 2012 - 04:19am PT
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Eric, sorry that the perps were never caught and the insurance failed you. I'd give you my business, but Dublin to Portland could be a costly exercise. However, the next time I am in the locale (haven't been to Smith Rocks since 1976), I'll give you some biz.
Stzzo, I see what you are saying but Argon does have a point, and it is increasingly difficult to book anything (tickets, train, theater, etc etc) nowadays without some sort of credit/debit card.
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splitclimber
climber
Sonoma County
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May 14, 2012 - 04:23pm PT
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headed up to smith today and will need a guidebook from your shop and maybe some shoes :)
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jack herer
Big Wall climber
Veneta, Oregon
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May 14, 2012 - 04:27pm PT
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What ever you do please do not buy the Smith Rock Select book! Buy the new Watts book a little more coin but worth every penny.
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Khoi
climber
Vancouver, BC
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May 14, 2012 - 09:31pm PT
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I say get both - there are benefits of having both to refer to.
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jack herer
Big Wall climber
Veneta, Oregon
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May 14, 2012 - 10:09pm PT
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Yeah IMO and I know many others feel the select guide was just a ploy to make money published by outsiders who saw a market for it, while Alan was working his ass off trying to churn out a solid product. Sure the idea it makes sense, but if Alan had gotten his book out when he originally said he would have I doubt the select guide would have ever came out. Not that I own it or anything but as far as I remember half the pages are ad's if I recall correctly... not a magazine but a guide book... hmmm
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SeaClimb
climber
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May 16, 2012 - 03:30pm PT
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Redpoint Climber's Supply is AWESOME...i will deliberately hold off on buying stuff in Washington to get it at Eric's shop...
Plus, no sales tax in Oregon.
Cheers
Rudy
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